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To Wage An Effective Fight Against Covid-19, We Need To Address The Right Source

As news of increasing infections and deaths due to Covid-19 continue to pour in, there has been one source of the coronavirus that has been left out, conveniently or otherwise, from investigations of its source and information – the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV).

Why should the WIV be the subject of such an investigation? In 2010, scientists from the WIV published an article in a scientific journal, titled Angiotensin-Converting Enzyme 2 (ACE2) Proteins of Different bat Species Confer Variable Susceptibility to SARS-CoV Entry (Link ). The authors of the article, some of whom were from the WIV, one of whom is Shi Zhengli, wrote of how they modified the ACE2 receptor of the SARS CoV virus from the horseshoe bat, to enable the virus to gain entry into humans, as the current receptors on the SARS CoV virus from horseshoe bats are “unable to act as a functional receptor for SARS-CoV”. That there were such experiments conducted in the WIV should make it a prime suspect in the investigation of the origins and source of the novel coronavirus. In fact, in can be argued that the WIV would contain the answers to it and links to the WIV should not be simpy laid aside as “conspiracy theories”. Furthermore, other corroborative evidence pointing the source of the novel coronavirus to the Chinese government’s and military’s work on coronaviruses include:

1) this scientific journal article titled A SARS-like Cluster of Circulating bat Coronaviruses Shows Potential for Human Emergence (Link) , which is also co-written by the WIV’s Shi Zhengli, that talked about how using reverse genetics (a form of genetic engineering), a chimeric virus was generated with a spike that “efficiently use(s) multiple orthologs of the SARS receptor human angiotensin converting enzyme II (ACE2), replicate efficiently in primary human airway cells and achieve in vitro titers equivalent to epidemic strains of SARS-CoV”, with the journal article noting that “both monoclonal antibody and vaccine approaches failed to neutralize and protect from infection with CoVs using the novel spike protein”.

2) A virologist in the Pasteur Institute in Paris, Simon Wain-Hobson (Link ), flagged out the work at the WIV, pointing out that such work involving creating novel coronaviruses could lead to unpredictable trajectories if the virus escaped, due to its growth in human cells, which he described as “remarkably well”. Though the editors of Nature journal published a notice in March 2020 that the “story is used for unverified theories that Covid-19 was engineered”, it still stands that Simon Wain-Hobson’s point is unrebutted, especially in view of a 2010 article written by Shi and other WIV scientists on ACE2 proteins on SARS CoV viruses.

3) A scientific journal article titled A new Coronavirus Associated With Human Respiratory Disease in China (Link ), written by doctors in China, made mention of how there were no bats, the source of Covid-19, sold at Huanan seafood market, which indicated that China lied about the market sold bats which contributed to it being the source of Covid-19, and talked about how the Covid-19 virus had the spike protein to enable it to infect humans. Though the writers made note, without proof, that it wasn’t engineered, incidentally, the WIV scientists were working on modifying SARS CoV viruses to make them infectious to humans.

These are no conspiracy theories but rather a case built on hard evidence from peer-reviewed scientific articles published in academic journals. The virus may or may not be engineered for biological warfare purposes, but that the WIV in Wuhan was involved in work on coronaviruses should make it a prime suspect and foci of investigations, which is Detective Work 101. It is high time world governments, including Singapore’s, shed their sinophilia, affinity for or fear of China and start holding China to task and make them come clean on information on the virus, especially those from the WIV lab, perhaps through sanctions on TikTok, Bytedance and Chinese construction firms. Questions might arise, such as, what about the Fort Detrick laboratory in the US? Fort Detrick is an improbable source for Covid-19 as if one were to look at maps, it is right on the outskirts of Maryland, in a residential suburb, and Maryland, a city run by a Democratic mayor, would certainly be quick to use a virus outbreak there against Donald Trump, if indeed Covid-19 came from Fort Detrick.

Furthermore, Wuhan was where the Covid-19 outbreak first started and it is home to the WIV lab that did work on SARS CoV viruses, in particular that which made modifications to the virus to make it infectious to humans, as attested to scientific journal articles co-written by the scientists there themselves. Also, if Covid-19 originated from and was deliberately released by the US (or any Western nation), why did China not raise this issue up on the first instance when it would be helpful for their course politically by casting negative spotlight on the US, which would have allowed her more room to act on and maneuver in the Hong Kong situation and the trade war with the US? Instead, China only brought up the Fort Detrick lab as a reaction to US pressure in a touch-and-go manner. Furthermore, if the virus originated in the US, why did China order a P3 laboratory in Shanghai to shut without explanation after they published Covid-19’s genome sequence, as reported here (Link)?

This Covid-19 pandemic has destroyed more livelihoods than physical lives and its time that governments of the world, including Singapore’s, bandy together to hold China accountable, demand that China releases information on the virus or face sanctions. Yes, the US’ NIH, under Dr Fauci is partly responsible as they disbursed funds to the WIV, though to their credit, it was discontinued in 2014 (Link). But given the evidence in scientific journals pointing to the WIV lab in Wuhan, its time that the spotlight shifts to it.

 

Nathaniel Chan

 

 

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21 Responses to “To Wage An Effective Fight Against Covid-19, We Need To Address The Right Source”

  • What a great article!:

    People with ulterior motives usually throw in some science publications and misinterpret to support their motives.

    This great article falls in that category.

    1) Sars-cov is NOT sars-cov-2 (covid 19). Wrong virus. That’s the end of this faulty argument.

    2) Evidence is cited to fit the motive.

    The linked article (A SARS-like cluster of circulating bat coronaviruses shows potential for human emergence) is attributed to Wuhan Lab. Look carefully. Where are the authors from? Vineet (USA), Boyd (USA), Kari (USA), Sudhakar (USA), Lisa (USA), Jessica (USA), Rachel (USA), Trevor (USA), Xing (China), Eric (USA), Scott (USA), Antonio (Switzerland), Wayne (USA), Zheng (China), and Ralph (USA).

    So many authors form different countries. 12 from USA, 2 from China and 1 from Switzerland. You just pick and highlight Wuhan? How not to suspect that you have some ulterior motive?

    Any neutral person who carefully read your article and the links provided will come to the same conclusion that this is pure person opinion not based on any scientific evidence.

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  • Nathaniel Chan:

    What a great article!:
    People with ulterior motives usually throw in some science publications and misinterpret to support their motives.

    This great article falls in that category.

    1) Sars-cov is NOT sars-cov-2 (covid 19). Wrong virus. That’s the end of this faulty argument.

    2) Evidence is cited to fit the motive.

    The linked article (A SARS-like cluster of circulating bat coronaviruses shows potential for human emergence) is attributed to Wuhan Lab. Look carefully. Where are the authors from? Vineet (USA), Boyd (USA), Kari (USA), Sudhakar (USA), Lisa (USA), Jessica (USA), Rachel (USA), Trevor (USA), Xing (China), Eric (USA), Scott (USA), Antonio (Switzerland), Wayne (USA), Zheng (China), and Ralph (USA).

    So many authors form different countries. 12 from USA, 2 from China and 1 from Switzerland. You just pick and highlight Wuhan? How not to suspect that you have some ulterior motive?

    Any neutral person who carefully read your article and the links provided will come to the same conclusion that this is pure person opinion not based on any scientific evidence.

    Of course SARS CoV is not Covid-19. But there was work done, involving the Wuhan Institute of Virology’s Dr Shi Zhengli that involved modifying the SARS CoV virus to make it infectious to humans. That there was such work done in the WIV and Wuhan was the outbreak epicenter should automatically make the WIV the target for forensic investigations and audits.

    And if you talk about me cherry picking evidence, you conveniently ignore this other scientific journal article I cited, “Angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) proteins of different bat species confer variable susceptibility to SARS-CoV entry”, of which the WIV’s Dr Shi Zhengli is listed as the main writer and half of the article’s co-writers come form the WIV. This article is also key as it talked about how they modified SARS CoV viruses to make it infectious to humans. Perhaps you shouldn’t cherry pick this journal article is qs out too?

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  • What a great article!:

    Nathaniel Chan: nd if you talk about me cherry picking evidence, you conveniently ignore this other scientific journal article I cited, “Angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) proteins of different bat species confer variable susceptibility to SARS-CoV entry”, of which the WIV’s Dr Shi Zhengli is listed as the main writer and half of the article’s co-writers come form the WIV. This article is also key as it talked about how they modified SARS CoV viruses to make it infectious to humans. Perhaps you shouldn’t cherry pick this journal article is qs out too?

    Firstly, you make the accusation. The burden of proof is on you. If you pick and even distort evidence, there goes your proof, up in smoke.

    I am not a defender. I am a neutral party saying your proof is horrible.

    Looking at this journal article that you want to look at.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7086629/

    1) Authors. You are right that half the authors are from Wuhan Lan. But you ignore the fact that other authors are from Australia and US.
    (Australian Animal Health Laboratory, Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization Livestock Industries, PO Bag 24, Geelong, VIC 3220 Australia. Department of Pharmacology, University of Minnesota Medical School, Minneapolis, MN 55455 USA)

    More cherry picking for your “proof”?

    2) The article investigates where sars-cov come from, which animals are the likely sources. You twist that to “modified SARS CoV viruses to make it infectious to humans.”

    If that work is about a deadly virus to infect humans, do you think the scientist will publish it openly in a journal? You are saying top secret Wuhan mad scientists publish their deadly works in a publicly available western journal? LOL.

    You seem to focus a lot on Zheng Li. Here is her public response at the very prestigious Science magazine.
    https://science.sciencemag.org/content/369/6503/487

    Those with open minds can read her comments and other real Scientists’ comments there.

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  • Prime Suspect:

    While the virus was spreading rapidly in Wuhan, China was trying to cover it up. Why? That alone raises suspicion that China could be behind the spread of the virus from the lab in Wuhan. The doctor who tried to sound the alarm was arrested, and now he is dead. The journalist who reported on it was also arrested. Did Chine accidentally release a biological weapon of mass destruction on the world, killing millions of innocent lives?

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  • oxygen:

    I HAVE ZERO KNOWLEDGE of biotechnology field, so I am grateful for the opposing views of @ What a great article! and @ Nathaniel Chan.

    But I do know of one thing though – UNLESS IT IS A NATURAL DISORDER event like an earthquake-induced tsunami of 2004 on Christmas day in Sumatra or Fukushima nuclear power station disaster of 2011 which “resolves” on its own of ending impact – WE CANNOT HAVE A SOLUTION to Covid-19 UNTIL AND UNLESS WE UNCOVER THE ORIGIN AND CAUSE of this pandemic outbreak (whereever or whatever its origin comes from).

    So as a “neutral” reader, I beg to disagree of attributed ill-motive discredit of the thread writer here.

    What a great article!: Any neutral person who carefully read your article and the links provided will come to the same conclusion that this is pure person opinion not based on any scientific evidence.

    If Nathaniel Chan’s writing is flawed for incorrectness of science or misinterpreted of its scientific interaction or otherwise biased, his writing can be forcibly discreted without attacking alleged “motive”.

    It is unfortunate that it did happen here but I hope in benefits to derive, this thread will provoke intense informed debate.

    I find this Chinese health authorities CONDUCT – not motive – VERY DISTURBING.

    The Age.com.au :The probe into how the coronavirus first emerged started in the Huanan Seafood Market in Wuhan, a sprawling complex where many of the first human cases were detected.
    In mid-December last year, Huanan vendor Jiang Dafa noticed people were falling ill, including a worker who helped clean carcasses at a stall who later died.
    At first, the China CDC moved swiftly.

    On January 1, the market was ordered shut, barring vendors from fetching their belongings, Jiang said.

    China’s top secret search for the origins of coronavirus

    https://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/china-s-top-secret-search-for-the-origins-of-coronavirus-20210102-p56rar.html

    Huanan live animal market is now boarded up, its vendors dispersed, foreign journalists visiting were followed by plain-clothed police and ordered to leave without photographing of the place.

    Is this not an official cover-up?

    Anything that is as tumultuous of impact as Covid-19 buried of its secrets or obscured/obstructed of its source/origin will haunt the world of its risks of future eruption with no comprehension and means of finding a solution.

    IT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO DESTROY HUMAN CIVILISATION.

    A CATASTROPHE IS LYING IN WAIT OF AMBUSH FOR ALL.

    The current vaccine available is NOT A CURE -science told us this.

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  • avejoe:

    The writer should stop judging china and keep her opinion to herself, the west are no angels, they have been lying through their teeth for decades, continue to destroy the livelihood of small countries around the world, in order to keep their power and dominance around the world.

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  • oxygen:

    Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine is no cure for all coronavirus ills. NOT even BioNTech and Pfizer, the vaccine manufacturers claims that achievement or potential to achieve that.

    Why?

    Read this link.

    Why the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine is no cure for all coronavirus ills

    https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/health-environment/article/3109797/why-pfizer-biontech-vaccine-no-cure-all-coronavirus

    particularly, these cautionary caption

    SCMP: questions remain about safety, distribution and its precise effect on the virus.
    Before the vaccine is approved for use by health authorities around the world, it will have to meet certain safety requirements that vary by jurisdiction.
    Is Southeast Asia ready to trust China’s coronavirus vaccines?
    25 Nov 2020

    Pfizer-BioNTech is NOT CHALLENGE these assertions. Neither did the US FDA of ‘SAFETY REQUIREMENTS VARY BY JURISDICTION.”

    Peasants were told masks is optional, not necessary when there was an acute shortage of mask for distribution sales. That SUDDENLY TURNED INTO LEGAL MANDATORY attracting heavy fines for any non-compliance – THE EXPLANATION, IF ANY, GONE AS LOUD AS MUTE.

    I am constantly reminded of this cautionary wisdom advice from Jean Claude Juncker, former ECB President and Luxumbourg PM.

    Jean-Claude Juncker, Luxembourg PM and Head Euro-Zone says “When it becomes serious you have to lie”

    https://www.thestreet.com/mishtalk/politics/jean-claude-juncker-luxembourg-pm-and-head-euro-zone-says-when-it-becomes-serious-you-have-to-lie

    I have COMPELLING APPREHENSION that a lot in the public mind will wonder to mystery doubts of “how much can we trust officialdom of ‘VARYING, UNCLEAR SAFETY STANDARD” having (pretentiously or in reality) met UNQUANTIFIED “safety standards” in the face of public comprehension of science’s knowledge WHICH THE VACCINE MANUFACTURERS DARE NOT CLAIM OF SAFETY for fear of class action lawsuit in America later.

    Jean-Claude Juncker taught me this gold standard of safety self-preservation in politics – at least – to wake up to the reality of actuality that political actors will lie with a BIG SMILEY face GRINNING FROM EAR TO EAR.

    A top Chinese Govt health official said current vaccine is NOT SAFE of risks.

    We can’t rule out risks with Covid-19 mRNA vaccines, top Chinese health official says

    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3115846/we-cant-rule-out-risks-covid-19-mrna-vaccines-top-chinese-health

    The covid-19 vaccine mass innoculation needs calm informed debate. I thank @ Nathaniel Chan for his efforts – right or wrong.

    WHAT DO THE REST OF YOU ALL THINK?

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  • Nathaniel Chan:

    @What a great article!

    1. On the journal article “Angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) proteins of different bat species confer variable susceptibility to SARS-CoV entry”, have you considered that Dr Shi Zhengli from the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) was the lead writer? No one is the lead writer of a scientific academic paper just like that. A lead writer is involved in planning and coordinating the experiments. This was something Dr Shi did and not those non-Chinese listed.

    2. On your point 2) you conveniently ignored what was written in the scientific academic article in which Dr Shi was the lead writer of. Perhaps, let me quote these quotes from the article:

    “Here, we extended our previous study to ACE2 molecules from seven additional bat species and tested their interactions with human SARS-CoV spike protein using both HIV-based pseudotype and live SARS-CoV infection assays. The results show that ACE2s of Myotis daubentoni and Rhinolophus sinicus support viral entry mediated by the SARS-CoV S protein, albeit with different efficiency in comparison to that of the human ACE2. Further, the alteration of several key residues either decreased or enhanced bat ACE2 receptor efficiency, as predicted from a structural modeling study of the different bat ACE2 molecules.” (Abstract)

    “Third, ACE2 from yet to be identified bat species may function as an efficient receptor, and these bats could be the direct reservoir of human or civet SARS-CoV. Unraveling which scenario is most likely to have occurred during the 2002–2003 SARS epidemic is critical for our understanding of the dynamics of the outbreak and will play a key role in helping us to prevent future outbreaks. To this end, we have extended our studies to include ACE2 molecules from different bat species and examined their interaction with the human SARS-CoV spike protein. Our results show that there is great genetic diversity among bat ACE2 molecules, especially at the key residues known to be important for interacting with the viral spike protein, and that ACE2s of Myotis daubentoni and Rhinolophus sinicus from Hubei province can support viral entry.” (Introduction)

    “An HIV-1-luciferase pseudotype virus carrying the SARS-CoV BJ01 S protein, HIV/BJ01-S, was prepared as described previously [13]. HeLa cells were seeded onto 96-well plates for 18 h and then transfected with 0.2 μg recombinant plasmid containing bat or human ACE2 using 0.5 μL Lipofectamine 2000 (Invitrogen, USA) according to the manufacturer’s protocol. At 24 h post-transfection, 30 μL medium containing HIV/BJ01-S was added to each well. At 2–3 h postinfection, unadsorbed viruses were removed, and fresh medium was added.” (Materials and Methods, Pseudotype virus infection assays para)

    This paras make it clear – the work there is more than just that to “find out the origins of the SARS-CoV virus. So let’s not cherry pick here. The reason why it is published in an academic journal is because it is a work on bioengineering.

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  • Nathaniel Chan:

    @What a Great Article!

    As left of in my point 2), the only reason why Dr Shi’s work can be published in an academic scientific journal is because it is a work on bioengineering. But what is not revealed is how the research is subsequently used by the CCP or the intents behind conducting the research.

    On your point 3) you are just taking Shi Zhengli’s word as is? Firstly, the Wuhan Institute of Virology’s parent organisation is the Chinese Academy of Sciences (CAS), as seen here (http://english.whb.cas.cn/). Secondly, the CAS has explicitly stated here (https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-03205-z) that “we are one with the Chinese (aka CCP) govt” and refuted all notions of independence from the Chinese (aka CCP) govt. So you trust Dr Shi ZHengli when she goes before platforms in her capacity as the WIV’s official representative when the WIV’s parent organisation has openly pledged loyalty to the CCP govt, the govt that disappears journalists and whistleblowers? I’m not sure but I suspect that you are a CCP 50-cent party disinformation agent yourself.

    Lastly, if you want to quote Dr Shi Zhengli and pass whatever she says off solely as evidence, you should also check out what other whistleblower scientists from the WIV also say here (https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3981833)? Why was China so quick to cover up and prevent a WHO investigation as seen here (https://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2020/05/10/commentary/world-commentary/world-faces-moment-truth-china/)?

    @avejoe

    If the corona outbreak happened with Brussels, London, or an Australian or American city as the epicenter and there are labs in the vicinity of these cities doing the kind of work the WIV lab in Wuhan did, then I would do such an op-ed on these places. But as it stands, 1) Wuhan was the epicenter for the corona outbreak. 2) The WIV lab in Wuhan did work modifying SARS CoV viruses to make it infectious to humans. 3) The CCP govt lied that the virus came from Huanan seafood market when there were no bats sold there and 4) the CCP govt undertook a huge cover-up operation. This should make the WIV lab a prime suspect for investigation or at least one of the prime suspects.

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  • Harder Truths:

    A nurse DIED today from the vaccine.

    https://www.rt.com/news/511524-portuguese-nurse-dies-pfizer-vaccine/

    Anyone want to take it? Anyone? No?

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  • What a great article!:

    The world’s scientists in these areas are still arguing and trying to find the origins of covid-19. There is no conclusion yet.

    For your original post to conclude Wuhan as the source, simply citing a few public articles, is very weak. By highlighting Wuhan authors while ignoring co-authors from US, Australia and other countries, aren’t you being very biased?

    As you said here, you don’t have any scientific basis. You are guessing and accusing on stuffs that are “not revealed”.

    Don’t abuse science by claiming scientific basis when there is none in your post.

    Nathaniel Chan: As left of in my point 2), the only reason why Dr Shi’s work can be published in an academic scientific journal is because it is a work on bioengineering. But what is not revealed is how the research is subsequently used by the CCP or the intents behind conducting the research.

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  • What a great article!:

    Your point about “lead writer” is another clear indicator of your bias.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7086629/
    There are two corresponding authors listed. Some consider the corresponding authors as the lead authors. One is Zheng, the other is from Australia.

    Nowhere does the article say Zheng is the only lead writer. You ignore the Australian lead writer.

    To support your view, you further claim that all the other authors are dummies who don’t know anything about the work. Most authors of any published article will disagree with your view.

    There are many authors from different countries for the articles that you cited. Why focus on this person and this country? Isn’t this a clear sign of your bias?

    The quoted paragraphs from the article are interpreted according to your opinion. Consider cancer researchers. They may be trying to find how cancerous cells grow. Someone mischievous can claim that those scientists are finding ways of infecting people with cancer.

    Nathaniel Chan: On the journal article “Angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) proteins of different bat species confer variable susceptibility to SARS-CoV entry”, have you considered that Dr Shi Zhengli from the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) was the lead writer? No one is the lead writer of a scientific academic paper just like that. A lead writer is involved in planning and coordinating the experiments. This was something Dr Shi did and not those non-Chinese listed

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  • SojoüRner:

    Virologists and biologists all over the world are in agreement that the SARS-CoV-2 virus is a product of natural evolution. Based on genomic analysis, that this virus originated in the wild via zoonotic transmission to humans. Coronavirus researcher/molecular bioscientist Anthony Fehr debunks the idea that COVID-19 could have been developed in any laboratory, based on the randomness of the mutations in its genome.

    https://link.springer.com/protocol/10.1007/978-1-4939-2438-7_1

    – Scientists that doubt any lab invented or released COVID-19 include: Jonna Mazet, Robert Garry, Lim Poh Lian, Simon Anthony, Peter Daszak, and others. These are legitimate researchers.

    It is perfectly possible that the Covid-19 virus reached the market via an infected worker from the lab, rather than via an infected animal. Failure to suppress popular consumption of exotic animals is simply that: a failure.

    Ultimately, it makes no difference which was the source: the danger it posed to China was just as great as that it posed any other country in the world. Each person seems to view it through a personal lens, and has difficulty viewing an entire population – much less the population of the globe. In order to stop a disease everyone must be on board.

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  • Nathaniel Chan:

    @What a Great Article!

    1.In this article you mentioned here (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7086629/), did you bother to notice a box with an “x” next to Lin Fa Wang and Shi Zhengli, the 2 scientists in the WIV? Ask anyone who has dealt with scientific journal articles. They can tell you that it indicates that they are the lead writers. Have you also considered that Lin and Shi were also listed as points of correspondence and NOT any of the non-PRC scientists? Why is that so? Is it not because of Shi and Lin’s deep involvement in the work in qs in that article, namely, that of modifying SARS CoV viruses to make it infectious to humans, that goes beyond the level of that of the other non-PRC co-writers?

    2. You talk about work on cancer cells to show ho my point is biased and flawed. Have you considered that cancer cells are not infectious, but in this article (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7086629/), there was work that talked about modifications to the SARS CoV virus to make it infectious?

    3. Did you bother to pay attention to the paragraphs I quoted from the said article?

    @Sojourner

    Very briefly I would say I have read many statements by different scientists on why the Covid-19 virus did not come from the WIV lab. But I think what all these scientists ignore is that Shi and co have actually written a journal article talking about their work making the SARS CoV virus infectious to humans. Also, factoring in that there were no bats sold at Huanan market. On top of that, Vietnamese and Indonesians eat bats. But why is it these places have not been the epicenter for the Covid-19 outbreak, but that it happened in Wuhan, home to the WIV lab, where there was work done to make SARS CoV viruses infectious? That in itself should make the WIV lab the subject and focus of forensic investigations and audits.

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  • SojoüRner:

    @Nathaniel Chan
    Is it possible that there were/are in fact 2 versions of this virus being researched at the Wuhan laboratories? Drs Choe and Farzan are very highly regarded as scientists and virologists. I recall they were instrumental in figuring out the mechanism used by the original SARS virus to infect cells through the receptor ACE-2. Evidently, along with the rest of the research world, they have turned their studies to SARS-CoV-2.

    And indeed mutations are entirely random and only persist if advantageous to organism in some way. This particular variant is enormously advantageous in a very specific way for the infectivity of the virus.

    Virologists shown the study said that the Scripps research was a strong demonstration that this specific mutation does indeed cause a significant change in how the virus behaves, biologically.

    “This is a powerful experimental study and the best evidence yet that the D614G mutation increases the infectivity of SARS-CoV-2,” said Eddie Holmes, a professor at the University of Sydney and a specialist in viral evolution.

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  • xoxo:

    Everything has CAUSE AND EFFECT.
    Who cause covid 19?
    China or someone else?

    Nobody can pinpoint exactly.
    But,most will agree eating bats is plain stupid and irresponsible.

    Is Covid a lab error?
    Who will admit?

    But we also know many died of FLU each year in USA?
    And,what flu is that really?

    Only HEAVEN has the true answer.
    The rest of us can only speculate and/or blame.

    Why are scientists so cock sure of another pandemic?
    And,coming soon?

    Hell,are there evil people creating troubles for the world?
    Only HEAVEN KNOWS.

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  • @SojoüRner

    I believe that the experts manning the Task Force at MOH would strongly disagree with whoever that said the C19 is high contagious.

    Just look at the massaged figures released by the MOH, the strain of C19 in Sinkieland only infects the poor and weak FTs in the dorms and some weak and old peasants.

    As such, it is completely harmless to Sinkies, evident from the daily crowded commute and still no outbreak.

    These so-called experts from around the world should really take a leaf from sinkieland’s no hue no care tactic of dealing with the C19.

    The C19 so weak and cannot bite one, like guniang like that, what’s the worry, dio bo?

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  • What a great article!:

    It’s hard to understand you.

    First, you said that Zheng is the (only) lead writer. I point out that there are 2, and that you ignore the Australian lead writer.

    Now you agree. But you claim that the Australian lead writer is actually a PRC researcher, and they are all the same gang.

    It’s usual to decide based on the organization’s country, as few knows the citizenship of the researchers. This guy could have an Australian or a China passport.

    What if you know that the Australian lead writer is now a Singaporean researcher at NUS-Duke medical school? He might be carrying a Singapore passport.

    https://www.duke-nus.edu.sg/directory/detail/wang-linfa

    Are you going to suggest investigating NUS?

    Nathaniel Chan: 1.In this article you mentioned here (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7086629/), did you bother to notice a box with an “x” next to Lin Fa Wang and Shi Zhengli, the 2 scientists in the WIV? Ask anyone who has dealt with scientific journal articles. They can tell you that it indicates that they are the lead writers. Have you also considered that Lin and Shi were also listed as points of correspondence and NOT any of the non-PRC scientists? Why is that so? Is it not because of Shi and Lin’s deep involvement in the work in qs in that article, namely, that of modifying SARS CoV viruses to make it infectious to humans, that goes beyond the level of that of the other non-PRC co-writers?

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  • Nathaniel Chan:

    @What a Great Article!

    No, in this article in qs (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7086629/), there were 2 boxes with “x”-es put beside the name of two PRC scientists, one of them is Shi. Like I said, usually this indicates that they are the main writer.

    You also ignore that in the article, they mentioned that the only other place the experiments were conducted was in Australia. Where else would the experiments would have been conducted if not for the WIV lab where Shi Zhengli is the lead scientist?

    Also, given how Wuhan was the epicenter of the corona outbreak and the WIV’s Shi Zhengli and her colleagues were involved in experiments making the SARS CoV virus infectious to humans, wouldn’t it be Detective Work 101 to make the WIV lab the focus of investigations as the work there suggests that it can’t possibly be ruled out as the source of Covid-19 at the very least?

    @Sojourner please note my last para reply to @What a Great Article too.

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  • oxygen:

    NOW, SURELY this does NOT earn any trust or respect for China’s handling of Covid-19 source discovery – for the sake of mankind.

    WHO ‘disappointed’ at China entry delay

    https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/disappointed-china-entry-delay-181508950–spt.html

    Again I am not imputing any motive BUT THE CONDUCT INVOLVED would welcome demands for explanation.

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  • SojoüRner:

    TRE Techie:
    @SojoüRner

    I believe that the experts manning the Task Force at MOH would strongly disagree with whoever that said the C19 is high contagious.

    Just look at the massaged figures released by the MOH, the strain of C19 in Sinkieland only infects the poor and weak FTs in the dorms and some weak and old peasants.

    As such, it is completely harmless to Sinkies, evident from the daily crowded commute and still no outbreak.

    These so-called experts from around the world should really take a leaf from sinkieland’s no hue no care tactic of dealing with the C19.

    The C19 so weak and cannot bite one, like guniang like that, what’s the worry, dio bo?

    @Techie

    Statistics ≠ Reality
    Infectivity ≠ Severity

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