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The Covid-19 vaccine jab

First, PM Lee made Gung-ho declaration he will lead the Cabinet and Nation to take the Covid19 vaccine. It didn’t happen & Minister Gan made bold declaration he and PM will lead the Cabinet to take the vaccine jab.

Just last Monday, PAP Minister said in Parliament that they do not want to be seen as “cutting Q” in taking the vaccine before front line healthcare workers.

But just a couple of days later, PM Lee went for his vaccine jab… without Minister Gan!

This week Minister Gan “cut Q” to take his vaccine jab!

It really makes us wonder, what’s WRONG with PAP Ministers? Always like to break promise and turn prata so often? Do they even communicate among themselves?

Well of course, it was just “coincidence” PM Lee chose to take the jab AFTER I questioned his leadership and their lame excuse of “don’t want to cut Q”.

It is of course also just coincidence that Minister Gan went to take his jab after I questioned why he never take his jab together with PM Lee as he had proclaimed earlier on!

Really shake head!

Now I want to question ALL OTHER Ministers, why their didn’t follow their leaders to take their jabs together with PM Lee?

PAP leaders and Ministers are becoming really fickle minded nowadays!

Well there is a Hawker Diploma for them to take and learn how to flip prata …

 

 

Goh Meng Seng

 

 

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30 Responses to “The Covid-19 vaccine jab”

  • Vaccine:

    As the PM, he is taking the lead to show that the vaccine is safe. There is nothing wrong with that. However, the vaccine he received may not be same vaccine which the people will be getting? His is probably the Pfizer/BioNTech
    vaccine with 95% efficacy which shipment arrived recently.

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  • 3Ts:

    What is your choice?

    1. Get injected & risk getting severe allergic reaction & get infected after 1st dose.
    2. Get injected & risk severe allergic reaction after final dose
    3. Get injected taking risk & get protected for only few mths immunity
    4. No injection. No risk. Stay safe vs infection naturally! Wash hands, wear mask & safe distancing! Build your own immunity naturally!

    CHOOSE WISELY!

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  • imported talented ones:

    //Now I want to question ALL OTHER Ministers, why their didn’t follow their leaders to take their jabs together with PM Lee?//

    aiyoh. as one or two ministars have started the ball rolling ?? the rest of the ministars should follow suit to jump the Q of one another lar unless some of them somehow still do not feel comfortable with the vaccines yet and wait for many many more more volunteers to go ahead first ????

    why rush hor since community cases are so ‘proudly’ low in the single digit hor (mostly imported talented ones hor ??) ???

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  • fishboy:

    You don’t know meh that PAP love test balloon. They always use test balloon to flip flop their unpopular decision (eg gst increase, price increase ). They will test your patience by using test balloon to see if it goes well, if so, resume their monkey decision, if not, pretend nothing happen, and attempt to execute their decision later together with “goodie” (GST voucher, subsidy ). Why do you think the PAP want to control everything ? because they can coordinate the timing for the implementation of their agenda.

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  • PAP = Power And Privilege:

    Not only did they PAP officeholders cut queue they also made sure they get the more effective Pfizer vaccine while other Singaporeans have to take the risk of getting the much less effective (and not proven safe) vaccine from China.

    This proves again that PSAP is always self-serving and cannot be trusted.

    I will not risk my health on the China vaccine just so the government can save a few dollars and kowtow to China.

    I will wait to make sure I get the vaccine I want even if I have to pay. Anyway, the more people get vaccinated the safer it is for those not yet vaccinated. Let that sink in.

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  • xoxo:

    No worries,the ministers and top officials and their wives and his *wife* will take the vaccination before being tried on the whole nation.

    Whats there to worry.
    Afterall,so far last few months,Sg only has mainLEE *IMPORTED CASES*,ya?

    Only thing,more first world nation going for stricter lockdowns?
    Sg doing the opposite.

    May WP ask how many imported cases to date.

    Will they gradually pass the germ to sgs like how TB resurfaces?

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  • Damned if Do, Damned if Don't:

    Goh Meng Seng, don’t be a shit-stirrer like Tang Li.

    It is politicians like you that turns the 40% OFF! Slammed Govt. for the right reasons not insults our intelligence.

    With a bad situation now in Singapore, you still try to score political points?

    I think the Govt. shouldn’t accommodate evil people like you, in the first place.

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    Opp MPs and candidates should also take the lead to encouraged constituencies of their interested are vaccinated.

    Opp camp do have doctor or specialist e.g. Dr Paul Tamiyah.

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    SORRY for the typo error.

    Correction Dr Paul Tambyah.

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  • You Die Your Business:

    With all the consecutive wayangs could only mean that there is real concern about the efficacy of these hastily approved vaccines.

    These princelings can have all the $8 medical care they could get with tax monies if something were to go wrong, while the average peasant joes do not have such safety net.

    Don’t be stupid.

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  • More Q-Type Coming:

    In the near future, establishments will allow people with 99.5% go in first, 95.99% next, 75% later, last will be 50% vaccine-jabbed personnel.

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  • Soccerbetting2:

    Stated above :Quote -”First, PM Lee made Gung-ho declaration he will lead the Cabinet and Nation to take the Covid19 vaccine. It didn’t happen & Minister Gan made bold declaration he and PM will lead the Cabinet to take the vaccine jab.

    Just last Monday, PAP Minister said in Parliament that they do not want to be seen as “cutting Q” in taking the vaccine before front line healthcare workers.

    But just a couple of days later, PM Lee went for his vaccine jab… without Minister Gan!

    This week Minister Gan “cut Q” to take his vaccine jab!

    It really makes us wonder, what’s WRONG with PAP Ministers? Always like to break promise and turn prata so often? Do they even communicate among themselves?

    Well of course, it was just “coincidence” PM Lee chose to take the jab AFTER I questioned his leadership and their lame excuse of “don’t want to cut Q”.

    It is of course also just coincidence that Minister Gan went to take his jab after I questioned why he never take his jab together with PM Lee as he had proclaimed earlier on!

    Really shake head!

    Now I want to question ALL OTHER Ministers, why their didn’t follow their leaders to take their jabs together with PM Lee?

    PAP leaders and Ministers are becoming really fickle minded nowadays!

    Well there is a Hawker Diploma for them to take and learn how to flip prata …

    Goh Meng Seng”Unquote .

    Response :Obvious the Pfizer vaccine is expensive but good .
    However the rest of us may be given the cheaper less effective Sinovac vaccine ? Better ask some evil b***t Josephine Teo and evil Amy Khor Lean Suan to try the Sinovac vaccine before applying to the rest of us ! Effective rate is important when taking vaccine !

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  • What A Dirty Rat, GMS:

    You can change anything? Only can talk cock.
    You should ask whether they’re injected with Pzifer or Sinovac vaccine. That’s what I call a politician with integrity.

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  • opposition dude:

    That’s PAP for you, they say what they want when they want.

    Remember “Don’t wear a mask if you are not sick” to “Mandatory mask in public”? How about no need to close schools followed by a swift u-turn on schools closing for a month?

    The party sees no wrong in doing u-turns though so we shouldn’t be too concerned when they say something. Because, my fellow Singaporean, this government hasn’t really been too trustworthy in the first place.

    Just look at the vote share. They were talking non stop about jobs jobs jobs throughout the campaign period but oddly, they didn’t get the “strong mandate” (AHEM!) that they wanted? Why is that? Why did more voters not trust them enough to vote for them compared to 2015?

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  • oxygen:

    LET US LEAVE THE EMOTION ASIDE and cut the chase to face reality. One promises the vaccine (whichever of manufacture unspecified) is painless, safe and effective but I can’t help but notice that the rests of the leadership (usually vocal of policy matter propagation) all went DIAM DIAM DIAM.

    The audacious contradiction in this bifurcated attention to a serious matter of risk/life death decision DON’T SPEAK THE LANGUAGE OF CONFIDENCE within the political hierarchy. I am sure the medical profession are deeply divided too.

    Not enough is TRANSPARENTLY done to assuage public concerns.

    Dicky Budiman, Epidemiologist, Griffith University, Australia :If there is doubt among health professionals, this means there are root issues…..These may include a strategy that is not optimal, or information supplied by the government that is not enough for professionals, particularly regarding benefits and risks

    And in Indonesia, despite high death rate among doctors, the medical profession has strong resistance to vaccination. The reasons include

    doctor :There are a few aspects that have not been answered, like how long immunity lasts and how it lessens over time

    Wariness in Indonesia as Chinese Sinovac COVID19 jabs start

    https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/wariness-indonesia-chinese-sinovac-covid-080624089.html

    And oddly enough, those infected got SAME RISKS OF REINFECTION AFTER 5 months as the rest of the population not yet vaccinated.

    Covid-19 Infection Likely to Provide Immunity for at Least Five Months, Study Finds. What That Might Mean

    https://www.marketwatch.com/articles/covid-19-infection-likely-to-provide-immunity-for-at-least-five-months-study-finds-what-that-might-mean-51610626235?mod=mw_latestnews

    Given rationing, inevitably the same globally, infected doctors in Indonesia for example, who recovered will NOT be given another round of vaccinated (even if limited protection) shot. Nobody knows the risks consequences of repeat vaccination of covid- vaccine or its mutations thereafter.

    There is therefore A HUGE LEAK in the mass vaccination elimination process of pandemic containment. THERE MAY BE A DECISION OF NO RETURN if mutation adds new variants and its multiplications thereafter.

    On the vaccine efficacy measure, IT IS ALMOST LIKE ASKING AN UGLY YOUNG LADY HOW PRETTY SHE IS – name your score. Each regulatory authority has its own definition of efficacy. The Chinese says 75%, Brazilian test of healthy patients says 50% and the Turkish govt reported over 90% – all in very short duration.

    IT IS A LIARS’ POKER GAME.

    Politicians tells us it is EFFECTIVE but vaccine manufacturers ALL DIAM DIAM DIAM as its FDA.

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  • oxygen:

    (continued)….

    Officialdom is SILENT if all doctors themselves submit to mass vaccination (IF THE NATION ALSO WILLING TO RISKS ALL THEIR LIVES) which if failed renders the healthcare system massively short of doctors.

    oxygen: Politicians tells us it is EFFECTIVE but vaccine manufacturers ALL DIAM DIAM DIAM as its FDA.

    I shake my head in UTTER INCREDULOUS DISBELIEF READING THIS in the quote of marketwatch.com

    Moderna Chief Medical Officer Tal Zaks :the company expects that its Covid-19 vaccine should provide protection from the virus for a year or more.

    https://www.marketwatch.com/articles/moderna-executives-say-covid-19-vaccine-should-offer-a-year-of-protection-51610461642?mod=mw_latestnews

    Speaking at the same industry conference on Monday, Tal Zaks said…
    “From what we’ve seen so far, I think our expectation is that the vaccination should last you at least a year

    HE SPOKE THE LANGUAGE OF SUPPOSITION before the eyes and ears of his professional peer. Expectation is NOT proven result or in satisfaction of medical evidence. That is to say, the chief medical officer in Moderna is unsure if the vaccination protection hoped for will last

    - one year
    - more than one year or
    - less than one year (maybe 6 months or one month or any other.

    Zaks could not possibly “promise” more OF SOME DEGREE OF DEFINITIVE CERTAINTY without provoking challenges from the peer on the same industry conference floor. Or it wouldn’t do him or his employer, Moderna, (if he promises more of both protection and its duration certainty) IF FDA STEPS IN TO ASK FOR EVIDENTIAL SUPPORT of any of his claims.

    In plain simple language, Moderna like the rest of the covid-19 vaccine manufacturers ALL KNOW THEY COULD NOT OFFER AN EXHAUSTIVE CLAIM AND ITS CERTAINTY OF PROTECTION in mass vaccination campaign globally FOR ANY PERIOD OF TIME.

    AND WHAT IS MORE DISCOURAGING is that told the same conference …BioNTech (BNTX) CEO Ugur Sahin said that he believes there is an “extremely high likelihood” that Covid-19 will become endemic, meaning it will persist in the population over the long term.

    Since covid-19 is going to be endemic for the population seemingly forever, all the vaccine and vaccination is useless of protective cover, WHY WOULD ANY RATIONAL MIND STAKE OUT NOW a life/death risks decision of allergic reaction incapacitating his/her health to unknown consequences i.e. living in a vegetative state or better kinder still in quick death?

    All for what?

    Three months or six months of protection which the medical profession and the rich elites gone DIAM DIAM DIAM wouldn’t venture into?

    There is no good choice but the worst of bad choice of vaccination?

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  • oxygen:

    Indonesian President Joko Widodo will be the first person in his country to receive a COVID-19 vaccine so says Marketwatch.com

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-this-country-is-vaccinating-its-working-age-adults-before-the-elderly-11610476675?mod=home-page

    It will be shown on Indonesian’s television, same as Marco Rubio, Mike Pence – the early bird to the global vaccination headline read of this pandemic “elimination” strategy effort which Moderna and Pfizers DON’T BELIEVE IT WILL WORK OF COVID-19 ERADICATION or its pretensions.

    Do you see the wives and children of these high-profile public figures par-taking the mass vaccination – particularly in case of Marco Rubio who sat on the same side of debating table as Donald Trump claiming earlier that Covid-19 pandemic is a HOAX/SCAM of political fabrication?

    Marco Rubio Shredded On Twitter For Bashing Fauci — After Getting COVID-19 Vaccine

    Huffpost.com :Critics didn’t miss the hypocrisy as Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) attacked infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci and the science of COVID-19 on Sunday, a week after the senator got a vaccine to protect himself against the coronavirus

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/marco-rubio-anthony-fauci-vaccine-twitter-attack_n_5fe949d2c5b6acb5345909e4

    Anything on health matters (non-political inherently) that needs media beat-up for dramatization meets with my contempt and distrusts.

    And I am NOT cynical.

    Get rea, read the comments of Dr Scott Gottlieb, former FDA chief.

    Dr Scott Gottlieb : the vaccines protect people from developing symptomatic Covid-19, not necessarily from ever being infected by the coronavirus. It’s going to take time to fully answer that question because we’re going to be dependent on real-world evidence, but the conventional wisdom … is that the vaccine is probably preventing some people getting infected and probably reducing likelihood of people who are infected [from transmitting] the virus….What we don’t know is the magnitude of that effect.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/06/covid-vaccine-dr-scott-gottlieb-says-getting-it-doesnt-mean-return-to-pre-covid-life.html?recirc=taboolainternal&recirc=taboolainternal

    Scott Gottlieb is a member of the boards of Pfizer, HE SPEAKS FROM THE POSITION OF SOMEONE IN THE KNOW.

    FDA IS SILENT ON THE imagined “CURE” OF COVID-19 VACCINE now on the market but Pfizer and Moderna know and tell the world the covid-19 is going to stay with us maybe forever.

    SGP has a resident population of 5.6m, last year’s tourist inflow was nearly 20m (4X). One virus leak from imported case, the mass vaccination fails of outcome.

    WHAT IS THE BIG FUSS OF VACCINATION?

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  • Harder Truths:

    It is now time for the stupid and selfish Sinkies to pay for their wrong choice of government by becoming guinea pigs for the biomedical industry.

    Yes 61% – this what you are going to get for your ‘loyalty’ to cancer. There is no going back now. You gambled and now must pay by becoming test monkeys.

    This is not the end – as long as there are vaccines for testing the $G population will be volunteered to do the dirty testing by the leeders.

    Do not complain 61% – show your loyalty – go and get the jab.

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  • Nathan Chen:

    When it comes to something like Covid-19 pandemic, a world-shattering event, beyond the PAP control, these over-rated world highest paid minister will behave no different from the man in the street. Hope for the best and expect the worst.

    How long do you think it needs to vaccinate Ah Loong and his Cabinet Ministers? Less than half a day. But they take their own sweet time. While our friend, Minister Lawrence Wong cajole and coerce the people to take the covid-19 jab ASAP. They do it one at a time. Why? They staggered the vaccination process of the ministers. Just in case—-

    Every day the amount of imported case increases. The PAP tells the people to expect the rise in number and do nothing else.

    These infected people are issued stay home order up to 14 days. They either get better or get worse. Those who get better do so without the vaccine. Those who get worse die without the vaccine.

    What are the vaccine for?

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  • Harder Truths:

    Makes sense. The more locals they ‘remove’ the more foreigners they can bring in.

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  • Sadly:

    C19 is for C19.WHO just gone into China to look for C20.

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  • Harder Truths:

    This just in from HK – how the Sinovac vaccine f*cked up

    https://sg.yahoo.com/news/hong-kong-fourth-wave-minister-053240577.html

    Please 61% go get your jab asap. I want to see you drop dead.

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  • very low end of 1 digit number:

    //SGP has a resident population of 5.6m, last year’s tourist inflow was nearly 20m (4X). One virus leak from imported case, the mass vaccination fails of outcome.//

    clap clap clap ? and eyes rolled when the daily report lately showing conmunity cases at the very low end of 1 digit number (if statistics is to be believed) ????; however imported ones (whatever variant ???) are in the 10 to 30 ??

    and all the resources expended on all the prevention measures (emotions flared sometimes between enforcers and the public ??) to keep community cases low while importing more from outside the country ????

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  • oxygen:

    HONG KONG residents interviewed this past summer by Chinese University’s medical school cited the potential for unknown side effects… return an overall acceptance figure of just 37.2 per cent.

    https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/article/3117424/hong-kong-fourth-wave-survey-finds-far-fewer?utm_source=Yahoo&utm_medium=partner&utm_content=3117527&utm_campaign=contentexchange

    With falling efficacy rates reported for Sinovac’s vaccine in Brazil and Indonesia, it is not known what the overall acceptance rate is like now.

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  • TEMUSIK PATRIOT:

    PM receiving his daily DOSE of vitamin Jab passing off as Covid 19 vaccine…

    Daily Dose of Deceit lah!!!

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  • Jo Teo must be Jabbed:

    For the sake of protecting Jo Teo, let’s hope she get jabbed ASAP.

    I rather let her go first than others.
    She is too good and important. Must be jabbed now. Also she should show support for Lee.

    She may need to visit Dormitories. So must be jabbed. I recommend Sino vaccine.

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  • oxygen:

    FIRST PRINCIPLE OF SURVIVAL AND SELF-PRESERVATION INSTINCT says this

    George Washington : If freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.

    The global political and economic architecture is fabricated for the wealth accumulation and power of a few unnatural aristocrats, we the peasants are just slaves working in the system for them. DON’T GET SUCKED IN by lies invented by POFMA gods/goddesses. DYOR means do your own research.

    Politics says it is “painless, safe and effective”

    Covid vaccine manufacturers NEVER SAID IT IS “EFFECTIVE” Politics hijacked science and pretends to be DIVINE of all truth.

    Here is some awakening for peasants to reflect on.

    Norway Warns of Vaccination Risks for Sick Patients Over 80

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-15/norway-warns-of-vaccination-risks-for-sick-patients-over-80?srnd=premium-asia

    Norwegian Medicine Agency :Norwegian officials said 23 people had died in the country a short time after receiving their first dose of the vaccine. Of those deaths, 13 have so far been autopsied, with the results suggesting that common side effects may have contributed to severe reactions in frail, elderly people, according to the Norwegian Medicines Agency

    ELDERLY PIONEER CITIZENS got the first bite at the Covid-19 vaccine cherry, I worry for them.

    Read this weblink below – it supply links elsewhere.

    You May Want to Rethink the Jab

    http://www.321gold.com/editorials/moriarty/moriarty011421.html

    OTHER NATIONS IN ASIA ARE PLAYING THE SLOW WATCH-AND-SEE STRATEGY, LEE-jiapore is rushing headstrong trying to outrun the virus which is mutating faster than science can discover.

    Why Many Asian Countries Are Being Cautious on Vaccines

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-14/asian-nations-that-tamed-virus-are-wary-of-speedy-vaccinations

    SCIENCE SAYS THESE of mutation risks-

    :… there’s a possibility the mutation — on its own or in combination with other mutations — could decrease the efficacy of the vaccine against the variant.

    https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-vaccine-updates-01-13-21/h_72b49505b2e7a57b0b156101f16e62a7

    WHO IS TO KNOW NOW THAT A few months after vaccine the “unproven” of long-term side effects, a high proportion of these ended up GOING TO TERN SUA of early INVOLUNTARY RETIREMENTS NEVER TO RETURN?

    Makers of covid-19 ARE SECRETLY NEGOTIATING LIABILITY WAIVERS with sovereign governments behind the backs of peasants.

    POFMA LEGISLATIVE DEMANDS ARE TEMPORARY AND CONVENIENTLY FORGOTTEN???

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  • oxygen:

    Continued.

    Remember I cautioned this – even FDA, US Food and Drug Administration, studiously running scarce of offering its comments on the “effectiveness” and long-term risks consequences of political misjudgment.

    oxygen: FDA IS SILENT ON THE imagined “CURE” OF COVID-19 VACCINE now on the market but Pfizer and Moderna know and tell the world the covid-19 is going to stay with us maybe forever

    There is a science-based thought out there which basically says

    :They also worry E484K might be an indication the novel coronavirus is showing its ability to change before our eyes. If this mutation happened in a matter of months, other problematic mutations could follow…..This virus may be taking the first steps down a fairly lengthy road towards vaccine resistance ……
    “It’s the beginning of a long haul, ………That’s what’s really shaken me up about this. It’s a sobering wake up call.

    Scientists fear escape mutant in coronavirus variant from South Africa might decrease vaccine efficacy

    https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-vaccine-updates-01-13-21/h_72b49505b2e7a57b0b156101f16e62a7

    The Japanese govt is discovering that a recent mutated variant is A NEW VIRUS STRAIN from Brazil, quite unlike the UK and South African variant.

    Covid-19 virus is TREATING the planet earth as its playground.

    I SUSPECT – my suspicion only at this stage – is that WHO is right – the currently available vaccine is NOT the silver bullet.

    It is probably very dangerous of long-term effects even if no immediate or near term allergic reactions with big risks OF DISRUPTIVE IMPACT ON THE GLOBAL ECONOMY and for survivability of the human specie.

    The financial markets globally is telling me this view is correct.

    IF VACCINE IS THE MAGIC BULLET CURE, ALL THE STOCKS IN NY, LONDON, TOKYO, SHANGHAI, SYDNEY, HONG KONG AND SINGAPORE WOULD HAVE BY NOW ROCKETING SPEEDING SKYWARDS with the quantum of stimulus spending done and promised by central banks and sovereign governments in all major economies.

    I am looking at global stocks -except BUBLICIOUS tech stocks – dying a slow decaying death, especially vacational and travel shares.

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  • Vaccine Fiasco:

    Ensure JT is jabbed pronto.
    Will shan take the jab to show his constituency?

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  • Why Executioner End lives?:

    Vaccine:
    As the PM, he is taking the lead to show that the vaccine is safe. There is nothing wrong with that. However, the vaccine he received may not be same vaccine which the people will be getting? His is probably the Pfizer/BioNTech
    vaccine with 95% efficacy which shipment arrived recently.

    There is no animal farm in sg right?

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