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Is this the first case of Covid-19 Vaccine related death in Singapore?

Is this the first case of Vaccine related death in Singapore?

Unfortunately, most probably the family cannot claim financial compensation because the death might be caused by the fall and not the vaccine itself, although the vaccine is indirectly causing the situation where the fall happened.

My condolences to the family. RIP.

 

Goh Meng Seng

 

 

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40 Responses to “Is this the first case of Covid-19 Vaccine related death in Singapore?”

  • xoxo:

    Expert medical advice must be furnished to those with pre-existing illnesses especially heart patients,cancer patients,diabetics etc.

    Only the rich n powerfool$ are properly adviaed,the rest of sgs,you die your business?

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  • Nathan Chen:

    In the public interests the Government should be alerted to this death. A coroner’s inquest should be convened to determine the primary caused of death.

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  • Harder Truths:

    My deepest sympathies to the family. How many more will become willing Guinea Pigs?

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  • Harder Truths:

    This poor man believed the propaganda. Even if he contacted the disease he would have a 99% chance to survive.

    The ‘cure’ is worse than the disease. Does anyone believe the leeders took it? Does anyone dare take it? You may not drop dead now – but you never know when

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  • I say many times liao lor, NO ONE will be able to get any compensation from the $200k promised upon death because the experts at MOH will always say the death is caused by anything under the Sun and the Moon except by the C19 vaccine.

    So the man even though might have fallen down due to dizziness caused by teh vaccine, it was the fall that caused the death, not the vaccine.

    Even if the vaccine caused a heart attack, it would still be blamed on the condition of the weak heart and not the vaccine.

    And if the vaccine caused rashes and the victim died, the death would have been caused by infection from the rashes and not the vaccine.

    Simple logic:

    If car on highway travelling at high speed suddenly got tyre puncture and went out of control, the tyre puncture did not caused the death from the accident. It was the crash that caused the accident resulting in the the death.

    This logic can the dafts understand bo? lol

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  • Harder Truths:
    This poor man believed the propaganda. Even if he contacted the disease he would have a 99% chance to survive.

    The ‘cure’ is worse than the disease. Does anyone believe the leeders took it? Does anyone dare take it? You may not drop dead now – but you never know when

    I agree with your understanding of the matter.

    When you take the vaccine, your chances of dying from the C19 (be it the disease or vaccine) is DOUBLED.

    If you do not take the vaccine, at most you kenna the C19 once and either recover or die, so the risk is only ONCE.

    By taking the vaccine (which has not been extensively tested), your chances of dying from the C19 just DOUBLED because you can still kenna C19 or suffer a fatal effects of the vaccine.

    So the question is: Why double the risk for fiack?

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  • Harder Truths:

    TRE Techie: By taking the vaccine (which has not been extensively tested), your chances of dying from the C19 just DOUBLED because you can still kenna C19 or suffer a fatal effects of the vaccine.

    Of the six types of coronaviruses that are infecting humans today – NONE have been defeated by a vaccine. Not one of them.

    Tech: Bingo, I was going to post that, you beat me to it. So since no cure, all this wayang kulit is for show and left-hand-right-hand $$$ nia. What do you think?

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  • Harder Truths:

    TRE Techie: I say many times liao lor, NO ONE will be able to get any compensation from the $200k promised upon death because the experts at MOH will always say the death is caused by anything under the Sun and the Moon except by the C19 vaccine.

    To TRY to get compensation – which will not happen – you must be able to take the regime to court – where they will fight you with your own money.

    Is that not funny?

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  • Harder Truths:

    Harder Truths: Tech: Bingo, I was going to post that, you beat me to it. So since no cure, all this wayang kulit is for show and left-hand-right-hand $$$ nia. What do you think

    I firmly believe this COVID scare and response is made to herd us into a fully communist police state where everyone is tracked and tagged. This will be tied to digital currency and social credit scores. When that happens there is no more 40% or $G as we have been living so far.

    Think of Russia in the 1960′s – it WILL happen.

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  • Tracey Ching:

    Aiyoh, how come MSM did not report the death? I read he was in ICU. CNY is not over yet leh. Officially CNY ends on 27th February. Altogether 15 days mah. Aiyoh really suay to die during CNY. Can suay for seven years. Better to transfer the suay to the elites. Tio boh.

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  • Which is safe:

    https://youtu.be/1p7899chwp0

    mRNA vaccine (phizer) is too strong, it has severe side effects.

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  • @ Goh Meng Seng:

    Can provide more info ?

    His age ?
    Any underlying conditions ?
    Why u never call reporters to interview them ?
    Why family keep quiet ?
    Why you never visit them and probe more ?
    When was his last medical health checkup ?

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  • Straits Times is full of shit:

    Straits Times: Eligible individuals who refuse Covid-19 vaccine endanger themselves and others

    The government should “walk its talk” on COVID vaccination. Being over 70 I recently received a letter from MOH inviting me to get COVID vaccination.
    I quickly registered online and as required stated I has some drug allergies. My registration was accepted (I was “eligible”) so I booked a date and time for the 1st injection.

    At the polyclinic vaccination centre I was asked the same question about allergies. After I said I have some drug allergies I was told that the COVID vaccination is not recommended for me. My daughter is a doctor and she told me to get COVID vaccination asap even with the China vaccine. She advised me that my risk of dying from COVID19 are much higher than from a possible severe allergic reaction to the COVID19 vaccine. I told this to the nurse attending to me at the vaccination centre.

    I also highlighted to the nurse that after 300,000+ COVID vaccinations in Singapore there has been no reported case of a severe (even fatal) reaction to the vaccine. She said that if there was a reaction to the vaccine most likely it was treated with a good outcome. I then pointed out that this proves that the reaction to the vaccine is less risky than getting sick COVID19. I insisted on getting vaccinated.

    I got vaccinated only after I told the nurse attending to me at the vaccination centre that I will call my daughter (who is also a doctor in the US) to speak to the local doctor she was consulting with regarding my vaccination. She said it was not necessary and agreed to my vaccination.

    It appears that while the government is encouraging Singaporeans to get vaccinated it is also discouraging those who have any drug allergies from getting vaccinated. Why? Most likely because the government thinks any report of a severe reaction (even if not fatal) will likely cause those even without any drug allergies to be reluctant to get vaccinated.

    The government wants as many people vaccinated as possible. But they do not really care about protecting those with drug allergies from COVID19. They get sick and die it is their business as long as they do not infect others.

    WTF.

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  • Not so fast:

    Harder Truths:
    This poor man believed the propaganda. Even if he contacted the disease he would have a 99% chance to survive.

    The ‘cure’ is worse than the disease. Does anyone believe the leeders took it? Does anyone dare take it? You may not drop dead now – but you never know when

    Where did you get “99%”? Does this % also apply to the elderly (those over 70) or to the population a whole. Most of the deaths from COVID are the elderly.

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  • Not so fast:

    TRE Techie: I agree with your understanding of the matter.

    When you take the vaccine, your chances of dying from the C19 (be it the disease or vaccine) is DOUBLED.

    If you do not take the vaccine, at most you kenna the C19 once and either recover or die, so the risk is only ONCE.

    By taking the vaccine (which has not been extensively tested), your chances of dying from the C19 just DOUBLED because you can still kenna C19 or suffer a fatal effects of the vaccine.

    So the question is: Why double the risk for fiack?

    For your argument to be valid you need to “QUANTIFY” EACH of the risks you mentioned and show that the the TOTAL of these risks is HIGHER than the risk of dying from COVID19 if not vaccinated. Where are your numbers?

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  • Why are you so arrogant?:

    Harder Truths:
    My deepest sympathies to the family. How many more will become willing Guinea Pigs?

    ALL countries are trying to get their citizens vaccinated. Who are you to say those getting vaccinated are just “guinea pigs”? How many Nobel Prizes in Medicine do you have?

    Let me give it to you straight. Your parents wasted their money on your education.

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  • @Not so fast

    It’s really simple common sense and math, why the need to quantify and show detailed figures?

    Simple logic again:

    1. If I don’t take the vaccine, I MAY kenna C19 and die from it. So there is 1 chance.

    2. If I take the vaccine, I MAY also kenna side-effects and die from it. Even if I take the vaccine, it is not full proof that I will not kenna the C19, so I am actually taking 2 chances instead of 1.

    As long as the vaccine is NOT 100% guaranteed full-proof that I will not kenna the C19 if I take it, and there is a remote possibility exists of 1% I may kenna side-effects and die from it, it is still simple math that the risk is higher for me if I were to take the vaccine.

    Its as simple as that.

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  • Harder Truths:

    Why are you so arrogant?: ALL countries are trying to get their citizens vaccinated. Who are you to say those getting vaccinated are just “guinea pigs”? How many Nobel Prizes in Medicine do you have?

    Let me give it to you straight. Your parents wasted their money on your education.

    I am entitled to my opinion, as you are to yours. There are many reasons and these have all been documented. It does not take a Nobel Prize to find these and make a rational judgement based on common sense.

    However if you wish to get jabbed go right ahead. No one is stopping you.

    Not so fast: Where did you get “99%”? Does this % also apply to the elderly (those over 70) or to the population a whole. Most of the deaths from COVID are the elderly.

    From the MOH website, take those infected in $G (59803) and compared to those who have died from the infection (29). The survival rate based on this is 99.95%. Many who have died it was reported were unable to get treatment in the early stages. It appears early detection is critical in people who may have severe reactions to the CoVID-19.

    In terms of infection, the overall infection rate for a population of 5,704,000 is approximately 1.04%. As a percentage of the population your chance of survival is more than 99.99% or a death rate of 1 : 196600.

    On the other hand, if you take the Alibaba vaccine – then your adverse reaction is a percentage of the population

    https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-vaccination-allergic-reaction-anaphylaxis-singapore-14086078

    Based on a severe reaction of 4 out of 155 000 people (including 1 death), the current death statistic stands at 1 : 155000.

    It is not known the long term effects of hose vaccinated.
    It is not known how long the vaccine will last – Sinovac is supposed to last 6 months. Are you going to continuously get jabbed?
    It is not known if the vaccine will give immunity to CoVID mutations.

    All ‘vaccines’ are still in Phase III testing – approved by WHO or not. Phase II is for Guinea Pigs or first batch of human volunteers.
    Phase II is followed by Phase IV before release to the general public. This normally takes years.

    None of the six types of coronavirus have EVER been defeated by a vaccine.

    All this is available reading. Look it up.

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  • Harder Truths:

    One last point.

    We will never know how many have actually died from the vaccine. Most of these will be older people and their deaths can be covered up as a result of other ‘possible’ conditions or ongoing illnesses etc.

    Many here have talked about it so the actual death rate from the Phase 3 Alibaba vaccines may be far higher than what we will be told from a entity aptly called MediaCorpse.

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  • oxygen:

    @ PAP mandate strong

    ISRAEL REPORTED INITIALLY a 67% WATERFALL rate of decline of the vaccine efficacy within 2 weeks.

    Why it CHANGED its tune now? Initially assessment pre-mature and incorrect? Or for political calculus, now lying to peasants?

    PAP mandate strong: A accidental coincidence perhaps ?

    Or is it true that its efficacy dropped so fast, that the effectiveness is VOID so soon SUCH THAT the SECOND DOSE is ALSO INEFFECTUAL of body immune response TO RENDER the entire process USELESS OF PROTECTION as if no vaccination ever took place (hence no immediate death reported as noted by you) BUT STILL NEVER CARRY THE RISKS OF ADE ( future health complications and deaths inevitable) which is NOT tested of time and risks contingencies.

    After injected of Covid-19 vaccine, you still can get infected by its variants BUT CAN YOU STILL BE VACCINATED without further health/life risks henceforth (after the first 2 doses is done with) yet again?

    THAT IS TO SAY, YOU HAVE EXPIRED YOUR ONE AND ONLY CHANCE?

    Can I still get COVID 19 even after I am vaccinated?

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/can-i-still-get-covid-19-even-after-im-vaccinated-11614354976?mod=home-page

    The answer, according to Marketwatch view is YES – YOU STILL CAN GET INFECTED AGAIN.

    But can you be vaccinated effectively again?

    NOBODY KNOWS, IT HAS NO PRECEDENT OR DATA FROM LAB TEST RESULT.

    Prof. Delores Cahill claims that vaccine tried on animals ALL DEAD but hidden from public information space by authorities globally.

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  • oxygen:

    I KEEP WONDERING this week, WHO are the (maybe) SMART AR*ES or DUMBFARKED IDIOTS buying airlines share – a lot of listed airlines reported their half-year or full year financial results or due soon.

    Definitely, not Warren Buffet in US!

    IATA is optimistically forecasting a forward runway of 3-4 years from now to return to normality semblance of open border and mass air-travel for business/pleasure seeking.

    Airlines have been supported globally by fiscal stimulus spending – so their steep losses in 2020 have been cushioned of wage costs but that will disappear in 2021.

    THAT IS TO SAY, AIRLINES CAN EXPECT TO SEE EVEN STEEPER FINANCIAL LOSSES FORWARD FOR THE NEXT 3-4 YEARS THAN IN 2020 as airlines return gradually to increasing flights adding to EXPANDING costs deficit NOT MATCHED by revenue flows from much dwindled passenger loads.

    Some will be sent to the corporate graveyard for permanent burial.

    UNTIL AIRLINES REPORTED PROGRESSIVE DECLINES IN LOSSES amid improving passenger load and as borders opens globally, ONE CAN SAFELY CONCLUDE – in my opinion – that the VACCINE is useless of its intended objective.

    COVID-19 and its variants ( STILL MORE TO COME OF THIS UNKNOWN) WILL CONTINUE TO BE RIFE AND WREAK HAVOC in human civilisation UNTIL A FINAL VACCINE PROTECTION is discovered 5 years of now after testing.

    Former German Chancellor, Angela Merkel, refused the much-acclaimed Oxford vaccine even though Germany’s health regulator agreed to allow its use for mass public vaccination – despite angry calls to her to LEAD BY EXAMPLE.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14162485/angela-merkel-germany-no-oxford-jab-2/

    SHE IS NOT STUPID NOR PETULANT, I am sure.

    How many politicians (displaying hypocritical leadership by example show-televised showbiz) allows their spouses/children and siblings do the same??

    I AM WAITING TO SEE.

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  • oxygen:

    @ PAP mandate strong

    SORRY, typo error there below –

    oxygen: (hence no immediate death reported as noted by you) BUT STILL NEVER CARRY THE RISKS OF ADE ( future health complications and deaths inevitable) which is NOT tested of time and risks contingencies.

    the paragraph above should correctly read as

    oxygen: (hence no immediate death reported as noted by you) BUT STILL NEVERTHELESS CARRY THE RISKS OF ADE ( future health complications and deaths inevitable) which is NOT tested of time and risks contingencies.

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    @ Strait times is full of shit

    At least u are vaccinated and your daughter ( doctor ) also advocate your decision. Those taken shots can talk louder and bigger. And good for you to share your experience. Only regrets AMK people and Tiong B people dont visit TR to share. No opposition supporters there.

    Anyway shame on GMS. GMS can volunteer for Sino vaccines.

    Shame on the scare shitless here, shame on those here who claims willing to die for sg , shame on those who admire Myanmar protesters where they ready to take a bullet whereas here kpkb taking an injection.

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  • How about ?:

    @ mRNA vaccine (phizer) is too strong, it has severe side effects.

    Maybe you are too weak instead.
    差勁!

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  • @PAP Mandate Strong:

    https://youtu.be/1p7899chwp0

    Science don’t lie. You don’t hear severe side effects for traditional method from trials in overseas countries. mRNA already reported with severe side effects. You quickly try Pfizer and let’s us know, ok. FYI, long term side effects for Phizer are known. If you still want to produce children, good luck!

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  • oxygen:

    @ Straits Times is full of shit

    DID THEY ALSO ADVOCATED OR PUBLISHED advocacy earlier that mask wearing for self and community transmission is UNNECESSARY? The truth that peasants uncovered is that there was a shortage of mask then for mass distribution/sale.

    So this is a HYPOCRITICAL TURN of trust deficit looking for peasants’ deluded blind obedience to a BAIT-AND-SWITCH political agenda yet again?

    Straits Times is full of shit: Straits Times: Eligible individuals who refuse Covid-19 vaccine endanger themselves and others

    I am also CURIOUS if the digital “acceptance” of your first online registration (despite declaration of your known drug allergies) was the work of some devilish smart “artificial intelligence” in “smart nation” digitization world or some quake doctor with no medical training in the data centre simply accepted all applications, regardless of allergies advised in online registration.

    Straits Times is full of shit: I quickly registered online and as required stated I has some drug allergies. My registration was accepted (I was “eligible”) so I booked a date and time for the 1st injection.

    NO ONE, IT SEEMS, CALLED YOU UP AND TALKED TO YOU OR ADVISED YOU BEFORE ‘REGISTRATION” so joyously “accepted” your online application.

    Straits Times is full of shit: The government wants as many people vaccinated as possible. But they do not really care about protecting those with drug allergies from COVID19. They get sick and die it is their business as long as they do not infect others.

    WTF

    You appear – legitimately, I observes – totally turned off by the mechanical logic/political calculus of what took place.

    THE POLITICAL AGENDA OVERRIDES ALL HEALTH RISKS CONSIDERATION – the mainstream media farting gases in support?

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4136005
    Indonesian nurse dies 9 days after receiving China’s Sinovac vaccine
    Nurse diagnosed with COVID-19 after getting Sinovac’s CoronaVac jab

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    U also quickly try Sinovac and let us know. After try then u can talk big and loud.

    As for Pfizer just approach any bus terminal and consult the bus drivers u will know more.

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  • oxygen:

    POLITICS OF DECEPTIONS ASIDE, the vaccine roll-out globally have been far slower than anticipated.

    There is an ocean depth of trust deficits EVEN AMONG GOVERNMENTS and political leadership – in part due the wild claims of vaccine-makers of its efficacy WITHOUT DATA SUPPORT – as if it is really works wonder of protection ACROSS ALL AGE GROUP AND ACROSS ALL COMPROMISED IMMUNITY inherent in many segments like drug allergies and aged with chronic multiple illnesses.

    LYING POLITICIANS AND VACCINE MAKERS IN COLLUSION are all scoring their own goals.

    Angela Merkel and French PM Macron are not the only “doubting Thomases” of vaccine maker’s claims and regulatory authorities lining up to sing the same echo chamber of theatric, lies and bluffs.

    Here is one.

    The Age.com.au :
    French President Emmanuel Macron on a videoconference with vaccine manufacturers in February. French officials recommended the AstraZeneca shot only be used for people aged under 65……..

    France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Belgium, Greece, Denmark, the Netherlands, Sweden, Poland, Austria and Norway have not approved AstraZeneca for use in the elderly, citing the lack of data.

    Own goal’: Europe vaccine rollout undermined by leaders’ messages

    https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/own-goal-europe-vaccine-rollout-undermined-by-leaders-messages-20210226-p576b9.html

    WE HAVEN’T SEEN THE SPOUSES/ FAMILIES AND SIBLINGS OF TELEVISION-SHOWBIZ of those “leadership by example” demonstrate conviction in support of vaccine makers of their risks and protection claims.

    YET THEY WANT PEASANTS to just believe them.

    How to?

    When leadership by example poor messaging is poisoning the well of public trusts and acceptance.

    Political showbiz even if all for the cause of circus busker or carnival jester would have enrolled their family and relative long time ago.

    No wonder those tents set up in Europe are begging passer-by to come into the tent for vaccination.

    Like all innovations, there is the first 10% – 15% early adopters, the rest takes much longer even for digital wonders like i-phone 6.

    Most of the European acceptance rate is currently around 4% even in the face of runaway pandemic spreads and escalating deaths – A LONG WAY TO GO for higher target if they are not stalled completely from here.

    In the meantime, financial markets are selling bonds (runaway escalating yield) tech stocks, gold, bitcoin AND BUYING US DOLLARS or taking cash.

    DON’T THESE TELLS ME A COMPELLING STORY?

    The mass vaccination will, globally, I believe, fail, recession is looming as inflation takes hold of disrupted supply shortage and massive over the top fiscal stimulus trying ever so hard to keep away the economic apocalypse at bay.

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  • @PaP Mandate Strong:

    Wow pro independence Taiwan news agency. Any science report that provides evidence it’s linked to vaccine?

    What not show us a Chinese news article from Taiwan? You can’t read Chinese meh.

    29 Norway elderly died after taking Pfizer then the Norway authority said no evidence linked to the vaccine. But then it is also no evidence not linked to the vaccine.

    Important is open up the investigation report by scientists.

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  • oxygen:

    # @PaP Mandate Strong

    CLASSIC ACUITY in truth digging. In Norway’s case, after shock reverberations ripple in the science world, the Norwegian government turned table and took refuge of “PUBLIC DENIAL, NO MORE TALK AND DEFINITELY NO ASK” CULTURE.

    @PaP Mandate Strong: 29 Norway elderly died after taking Pfizer then the Norway authority said no evidence linked to the vaccine. But then it is also no evidence not linked to the vaccine.

    Important is open up the investigation report by scientists.

    Norway is among the EU countries NOT APPROVING the AstraZenecca-Oxford vaccine for over 65 BUT REMAIN STOIC GRAVEYARD SILENT ON ITS USE IN MASS VACCINATION at least in other parts of EU (perhaps including itself)

    WHAT A FONT AND MONUMENT OF LYING TONGUE AND A MOUNT EVEREST HEIGHT OF HYPOCRISY?

    The Age.com.au: France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Belgium, Greece, Denmark, the Netherlands, Sweden, Poland, Austria and Norway have not approved AstraZeneca for use in the elderly, citing the lack of data.

    https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/own-goal-europe-vaccine-rollout-undermined-by-leaders-messages-20210226-p576b9.html

    The LOGIC OF DECEPTION IS SIMPLE – if you carpet bomb stupid CONFUSED peasants with ENOUGH LIES, they will submit to fear (of death from Covid-19 pandemic infection) indoctrination.

    WTF.

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  • oxygen:

    @ PAP mandate strong

    YOU KIDDING ME, TRE readers or yourself?

    PAP mandate strong: As for Pfizer just approach any bus terminal and consult the bus drivers u will know more.

    Asking the bus drivers at any bus terminal for an answer? Peasants might as well as the janitors working in fast food joints in shopping malls. Who knows? Dumbfarked peasants might still got a “better” (more informed/ reliable) answer!

    OF COURSE, we both have LONG “written of” STATE-OWNED prostitute media.

    But guess who I would seriously ask of the chances of success of the vaccine roll-out now underway?

    DEFINITELY, NOT THE CENTRAL BANKERS from the US Fed and ECB, BOJ – the starkly gloomy evidence in financial markets spoke thunder of their lack of disappearing confidence in the “reflation” trade.

    And what is “reflation” trade?

    In simple layman terms, it is investors chasing equities in global stock exchanges on the assumption that the vaccine roll-out is such roaring success, global economies will boom and current runaway bond yields (falling bond prices) has no worries i.e. a natural results of temp rise in interest rate as demand/supply imbalance chase up prices (inflation and interest rate thereafter). That is a good sign according to the prophets/disciples of “relation” trade.

    SO WHAT DO CENTRAL BANKERS DO?

    The Fed, ECB, BOJ all coordinated together of VERBAL INTERVENTION ( not adding to current budgeted fiscal stimulus already agreed upon) – yes, it is all VERBAL mast*rbation intervention only!

    Here is the proof.

    Central Banks Fight Bond Rout With Action and Promise of More

    https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/global-bond-rout-extends-asia-222746094.html

    Note this OPENING comment from the above Canadian yahoo finance website publishing

    ca.finance.yahoo.com/Bloomberg : Central banks from Asia to Europe escalated their efforts to calm panicking markets, pledging to buy more bonds and signaling more policy accommodation, after U.S. Treasury yields surged to the highest level in a year.

    The 10-yr US Treasury surged upwards like a space ship launch last week to 1.61% yield rocking global bond market.

    AND CENTRAL BANKS ARE DENYING REALITY. It pretends its unlimited fiscal stimulus will turn global economy around – REGARDLESS OF THE OUTCOME OF MASS VACCINATION magical “cure” of the pandemic infection fire spread raging in US/EU. Or at least, they think the mass vaccination campaign will work, end the risks of continued lockdowns and spur economic boom/recovery and RISING ASSET PRICES ACROSS THE BOARD of wonder “reflation trade”.

    That is to say, FINANCIAL MARKET ACTION/PRICES always “discount” correctly ahead of shifting fundamentals.

    TO BE CONTINUED.

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  • oxygen:

    @ PAP mandate strong.

    Continuing from preceding.

    THE BOND MARKET IS CALLING THE CENTRAL BANKS verbal mast*rbation is just that – verbal diarrhea – at least of outcomes proven.

    Remember this?

    How Mario Draghi’s ‘Whatever it takes’ became Europe’s antivirus mantra.

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/how-mario-draghis-whatever-it-takes-became-europes-antivirus-mantra-2020-03-20

    ECB is still talking about unlimited spending in “controlling the yield curve” (buying up bonds to hold down yield and rising interest rate pressure today)

    ECB Is Capping Bond Yields But Don’t Call It Yield Curve Control

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-20/ecb-is-capping-bond-yields-but-don-t-call-it-yield-curve-control

    The Fed’s own GFC massive QEs could not close without the “tapering tantrum” and back down immediately in 2013 as overnight rise in interest rate shook the credit (bank lending) market. Jerome Powell prefers NOT TO REMEMBER THIS.

    The BOJ went through decades of stimulus spending – ALL FAILED.

    Monkeys are mischievous BUT THEY DON’T TELL US LIES or imagined fantasized “truth”.

    I like the bond market of “better” truth telling – THIS IS RICH MAN’s game or institutional players – quite unlike the craze of Robinhood traders in Gamestop speculative frenzy or the pretenders of Elon Musk betting on bitcoin now in reversed dive into the water-less pool.

    SO WHAT DID THE BOND MARKET DOES in recent days?

    Here it is

    Bond markets left smarting from worst rout in years as reflation goes global

    au.finance.yahoo.com :From the United States to Germany and Australia, government borrowing costs on Friday were set to end February with their biggest monthly rises in years as expectations for a post-pandemic ignition of inflation gained a life of their own

    https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/bond-markets-left-smarting-worst-114204118.html

    THE BOND MARKET IS CALLING ALL CENTRAL BANKERS – a mob of liars in this reflation trade.

    As rising Treasury yields spook stock investors, March looms like a lion

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/as-rising-treasury-yields-spook-stock-investors-march-looms-like-a-lion-11614434139?mod=home-page

    Why?

    Bond market collapsed – so has bitcoin, tech stocks, and you would NOT BELIEVE THIS IN YOUR EYES AND BRAIN – the US dollar as well.

    https://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/quickchart/quickchart.asp?symb=dxy&insttype=&freq=1&show=&time=8

    Gold is denominated in US dollar, it collapsed, BUT GOLD DENOMINATED IN US DOLLAR ALSO FALLEN in the last 6 months!!

    IN LAYMAN TERMS, THE EXPECTED POSITIVE CORRELATIONS (contra) BETWEEN USD/GOLD AND BOND/EQUITIES HAVE COLLAPSED.

    My best guess is that the REFLATION TRADE IS WRONG, THE VACCINE expected cure will collapse, and failed for all sorts of reasons UNIMAGINABLE OF NOW.

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    Well U yourself comment in english. Why not chinese then ?
    You cant type Chinese ?

    What wrong with Taiwan ? Exactly they did not trust mainland they escape almost unscathed.

    Sino vaccine currently not for people above age 60 or is it age 60 and above 60. There may changes we shall see.

    I have said a few times those not considering travelling anytime in 3 5 7 10 years , u do not want to take the shots then just go ahead.

    If u want to take Sino vaccine or even Russia ones over others , go ahead u will be clearing alot of doubts for others.

    As for me my parents will probably receive letters next week or in March. They have already decided to go for it. Some elderly neighbours nearby blocks or same block just received letters a few days ago. My upper storey friend’s rejected the vaccination as many underying condition etc quite serious glaucoma and high blood and mild diabetes. Anyway they not going where except neighbourhood.

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    My answer is with reference to gms article

    Dont ask bus drivers ( as example ) or nurse or others who’s vaccinated for some feedback, then ask who ?… GMS ( who shunt ) ? Is he also medical trained other than whatever he ‘s trained in or whatever certs he owned ?
    GMS never calculated his odds when he ran against TPL in last GE. One of the worst performance if not the worst. Obviously he misread or miscalculated.

    I think U probably look down on our sg bus drivers, while u are hiding from plain sight in Auzzie. Have u ever sit down beside some of them in their bus canteen and listen to their conversations. Probably nope right. They are not without brains some of them also play shares or property especially Malaysian drivers. Some more play both side sg and malaysia markets. They have friends on both side that they can compare infos. U look down on them earning honest living hard working but u look up at GMS who lost big time to TPL one on one.

    Even u post alot links , lets remind ourselves of your disappointing sg property surmise. Some more questioned by others u still act like DT , refuse to apologise, refuse to concede defeat.

    It’s okay everybody make mistakes even Warren Buffet today on the news also admit mistake.

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/malaysias-khairy-says-to-take-non-pfizer-shot-when-available-to-fight-vaccine-hesitancy

    Malaysia’s Khairy says he will take non-Pfizer shot to fight Covid-19 ‘vaccine hesitancy’

    I know , Guess you people will said normal saline again.

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  • oxygen:

    @ PAP mandate strong:

    YOUR “DOCTORAL THESIS” at February 28, 2021 at 11:07 pm is venomous everywhere that disagree with you. It is ad hominem on GMS in particular.

    I like your gibberish lunatic rant on these – a lot of twirls in spins and the truncated brevity it hides – ALL shallow of illumination. Here is some

    PAP mandate strong: Even u post alot links

    My inks is intending on illumination/substantiation – that is why it is there for. You can challenge the illustrations but is there other than sweeping brevity in hiding?

    Oh, and this is another quick brevity of sweeping dusts under the carpet.

    PAP mandate strong: your disappointing sg property surmise. Some more questioned by others u still act like DT , refuse to apologise, refuse to concede defeat.

    I have never an inclination to property investing and always attracted here in TRE to rigorous debate – I recall the most recent, lots of swinging counter-attacks. There is no winner/loser in those vibrant challenges – the issues on hand is macro-economic and financial calculus. I am happy to debate with you or any others on the virtues/debasements of property investing yet again.

    And leave out your vitriol of your imagined attribution of me to

    PAP mandate strong: Some more questioned by others u still act like DT

    DT is not my idol – his business is real estate-based. My weblinks are all equities/bonds. DT lives on a different planet from me.

    SO PLEASE DON’T TRY TO CONFUSE TRE readers of this dubious false association of mindset with such encompassing (false) illumination of yours

    PAP mandate strong: lets remind ourselves

    You don’t speak on behalf of me or TR E readers in reference to “ourselves”

    Oh BTW, this one is a cheap shot you borrowed from another “complete a*sehole”

    PAP mandate strong: while u are hiding from plain sight in Auzzie.

    In a digital world today in TRE, one can debate with everyone or anyone while “hiding” in Antarctica or currently hiding in friend’s condo in Guangzhou.

    The ad hominem can’t debate and won’t debate but attack bodily of grievous hurt is their own cover.

    AND FINALLY, I WOULD SPEAK AND LEARN from any clever janitorial staff in a fast food restaurants anywhere than your “highly sophisticated” bus drivers who bought SGP/Malaysian shares.

    Mahathir defeated me on CLOB, I won’t venture there again!

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  • oxygen:

    @ PAP mandate strong

    OH, where were you when Khairy entered the political stage in Malaysia?

    PAP mandate strong: https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/malaysias-khairy-says-to-take-non-pfizer-shot-when-available-to-fight-vaccine-hesitancy

    Malaysia’s Khairy says he will take non-Pfizer shot to fight Covid-19 ‘vaccine hesitancy’

    I know , Guess you people will said normal saline again.

    I CAN ONLY REMEMBER HIM for his political stunts.

    Has he reached political stardom to pinnacle or near to that yet in Malaysian politics?

    If you don’t know the answers to those questions and my preceding post a moment ago in rebuff, you are probably dwelling in Alice in Wonderland amusement park.

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  • oxygen:

    @ PAP mandate strong

    OI OI OI, I am equally amused and puzzled where you derived the info that televised vaccinations were injected with

    PAP mandate strong: Guess you people will said normal saline again.

    For a while, me thought, privately, that the “vaccine” in the vials were actually delicious fresh water cleverly extracted from “young Thai coconuts” – the same as those drank by millions of tourists walking on Pattaya beach in Thailand.

    HILARIOUS!!

    Oh BTW, none of the filthy rich or the unnatural elites will allow their spouses, kids and siblings get the Covid-19 vaccinations.

    What if the much feared (science-based) ADE turned up true?

    That is to say, those vaccinated one-by-one – either months or a few years after – for unexplained reason/s reasons otherwise, just suddenly in the sleep or watching internet video, got taken prematurely to a “permanent early unscheduled vacation” to visit their ancestors in TERN SUA (China), never to return?

    They haven’t yet spend all their ill-gotten gain from corrupt political exertions and cunning manipulation of the nation’s wealth distribution – money earned by most peasants. Right or wrong?

    I wonder if this is the undisclosed reason/explanation why the BOND MARKET (played by rich people and institutions) are betting that the Covid-19 global vaccinations will fail of its objectives – either acceptances too low to reach herd immunity (benefiting the rich elites who refused vaccinations) or the claimed benefits of mass vaccinations of those UNPROVEN VACCINE did not materialise of protection touted as the “silver bullet” ending the pandemic.

    WHAT DO YOU THINK?

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