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I despair at the success of brainwashing by the PAP

JB Jeyaretnam and Chiam See Tong are the only two MPs who do not believe that any person arrested and imprisoned under the ISA are terrorists and deserve to be detained indefinitely without trial.

In 1997, JB Jeyaretnam again raised the question of Chia Thye Poh’s more than two decade long detention under the ISA. Wong Kan Seng then Minister of Home Affairs complained about JB Jeyaretnam’s regularity in raising the subject. [LINK]

None of the present WP MPs show any interest or concern about ISA detainees. They accept that all ISA detainees are guilty of the allegations made against them.

Just a few days ago, the Leader of the Opposition agreed with the Minister of Home Affairs that the 16 year Protestant Christian boy deserve to be imprisoned just like the 16 or 17 year old Muslim boys detained earlier. I despair at the success of brainwashing by the PAP. If opposition members of parliament cannot raise questions concerning young people who are imprisoned (or educated by the ISD as the government wants us to believe) it is better that they do not mention them in parliament for doing so would only give the ministers more time to conduct their brainwashing.

 

Teo Soh Lung

 

 

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25 Responses to “I despair at the success of brainwashing by the PAP”

  • Apparently, the founder of Wayang Party (former Temasek Review) did not call Workers Party (after JBJ time) as THE party’s Team B for no apparent reasons.

    After JBJ’s time, the WP has been contented to be a co-driver (Team B) and busy polishing the main driver’s seat shinny shinny, at times asking all the irrelevant questions in Parliament, avoiding the hard-hitting ones.

    Pritam has even been quoted as having said that “they do not want to end up like JBJ”, which may explain why the WPs have been timid, asking all the irrelevant questions and putting up time-wasting suggestions (knowing full well that all will be shot down).

    Before anyone starts flaming me, not that I one person say one hor, I am sure Ms Teo and some TRE readers also feel the same, dio bo?

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  • Harder Truths:

    The opposition this time around are fakes. You can see it. Pritam putting his arm around the Despot in one picture after he was given ‘Favoured Leeder of the Opposition Parties’ or FLOP for short.

    Then the FLOP agreed with VB that the TraceTogether was an ‘oversight’. Asking all kinds of simple scripted questions about police cases that has no bearing on reality. Now another surrender.

    People – we have been HAD. The days of JBJ and CST re not coming back.

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  • xoxo:

    Frankly,i ,initially ,got impressed by LTK.
    Subsequently,i got tired of the wayang .

    I find LTK sneaky,sorry to say.

    Think Chen Show Mao more sincere.
    Pritam is a protege of LTK and worships LTK and adore him?

    We need PSP N SDP in parLEEmen to turn it into parliament .

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    xoxo:
    Think Chen Show Mao more sincere.

    Hahahahaha…. Chen Show Mao is just a over rated MP.

    After election, CSM and all the Opposition parties no sound and no sight.

    All very good at talking cawk sing song.

    Money Talk Bullshit Walk.

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    Harder Truths:
    The opposition this time around are fakes. You can see it.
    ……………………..
    People – we have been HAD. The days of JBJ and CST re not coming back.

    So, what are your opposition supporters plan to bring the days of JBJ and CST back ?

    Hahahaha … I know. No Action Talk Only ….

    Opposition supporters are so stupid to be conned by WP who are laughing all the way to the bank with their fat MP allowance.

    Did you see opposition WP be the first to volunteer to cut their MP salaries ?

    Hell no….. they kept quiet about it and laugh to the bank.

    Money Talk Bullshit Walk.

    GE2024.PAP.Guarantee.Win.HuatAgain
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  • Zhenzidan:

    Ms Teo ah. You have joined oppositions before and also contested in elections. After you lost, you just gave up and be contented to always come here and keep telling us your grandmother stories about your unjustified detention. It is this constant rehashing of a story that voters get pissed off.

    I suggest you join another opposition party or maybe form your own party and get elected first, then you can go to parliament and start reverberating your stories again and press for an answer.

    If anyone feel that the present oppositions are useless, feel free to vote in any other opposition parties whom you think will be effective. Stop picking on an elected opposition party.

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  • talkcork:

    I think you guys have not been fair to WP.

    The likes of JBJ did not last, he won 1 seat and he was thrown out due to unfair judgement. Yes we want everything to be fair and justice, and all to speak out without fear and repercussion. But Singaporeans being conditioned, timid and brainwashed by PAPPY propaganda does not buy that. JBJ only had 1 success, Chiam’s party disintegrated into wilderness.

    WP has won more than 12 seats now. Until it becomes a force, they have to play by the rules and within the rules. TSL can cry about Chia Thye Poh and unfair detention, but honestly most Singaporeans dont care. Isn’t it? Yes I think PAPPY should apologise to these detainees as a person who believes in justice. But how many other Singaporeans will think like me? Most Singaporeans only care what affects them most and justice and whatever they dont bother much. WP caters to their needs and this explains why they have expanded in parliament.

    Dont get me wrong, I support your cause and feel for you but lets be practical, these Singaporeans have been brainwashed into self centred and selfish who only cares about themselves and issues closest to them. There is no point trying to rub this again and again and they wont change. You have to be practical, cant be dreamy. KJ son of JBJ has been trying to emulate his dad but what he did win? Nothing…..

    I think all oppositions or activists should adjust your strategies to fit the environment, WP has done this part well, they give what the environment is asking and expanded. If you keep crying operation spectrum or Chia Thye Poh till your death, I assure you nothing will ever change.

    Remember, enemy of PAPPY is a friend, the common enemy is PAPPY, they brought us and citizens all these bs.

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  • talkcork:

    The PAPPY has imported millions of FTs and converted them to PRs and new citizens.

    So many Singaporeans unemployed, underemployed or doing PHV; they also did not dare to openly complain much. A lot in jobs still believe only oppositions supporters and complaint kings affected. It shows Singaporeans are brainwashed very deep and very self centred and timid.

    You tell them Operation Spectrum and Chia Thye Poh blah blah… unfair… should apologise.

    Can you do a survey and let me know?

    We are in an environment where people are fearful, selfish and self centred. Only a small number are true believer in justice and freedom, the rest only care about what hurts them most.

    So you need to think the environment you are in and change your songs and contents accordingly so that you have chance in the message you want to send.

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    Zhenzidan:
    Ms Teo ah. You have joined oppositions before and also contested in elections. After you lost, you just gave up and be contented to always come here and keep telling us your grandmother stories about your unjustified detention. It is this constant rehashing of a story that voters get pissed off.

    Hahahaha Opposition are always No Action Talk Only …

    Opposition also complain salary too high for PAP.

    But did Opposition WP volunteer to cut their fats MP salary and allowance ?

    Hell NO, instead WP is laughing all the way to the bank, leaving GMS and others jealous.

    Always remember what Goh Chok Tong said,
    what can opposition do for me ?
    Besides hiding/whining behind moniker, what can opposition do for me ?

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  • Zhenzidan:

    TRE Techie:
    Apparently, the founder of Wayang Party (former Temasek Review) did not call Workers Party (after JBJ time) as THE party’s Team B for no apparent reasons.

    After JBJ’s time, the WP has been contented to be a co-driver (Team B) and busy polishing the main driver’s seat shinny shinny, at times asking all the irrelevant questions in Parliament, avoiding the hard-hitting ones.

    Pritam has even been quoted as having said that “they do not want to end up like JBJ”, which may explain why the WPs have been timid, asking all the irrelevant questions and putting up time-wasting suggestions (knowing full well that all will be shot down).

    Before anyone starts flaming me, not that I one person say one hor, I am sure Ms Teo and some TRE readers also feel the same, dio bo?

    Next election if WP wins another GRC, don’t bother to congratulate them like you did for their Sengkang victory. That’s the reason why I fucked you for the hypocrisy. WP definitely knows how to win votes in their own way. JBJ’s way of confrontational politics did not work well and he was draining the party’s resources after getting sued. Remember, he was not ousted. He resigned from the party but WP went on to capture a GRC after 23 years.

    Just stay put in China for your remaining years and don’t worry about Singapore politics anymore. Nothing you say will make voters here choose other opposition parties.

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  • @Zhenzidan

    I merely repeated what has been posted on TRE since eons ago. As for WP, even if they win another 10 GRCS, good for them but I really don’t give a fiack.

    There is no point in winning 10 GRCs if one forgets the purpose of winning the GRC, i.e. to serve the peasants that sent the party into Parliament.

    As far as I am concerned, I am still with the belief that Nicole should be in Parliament because (so far) she has come across as someone who is sincere and cares.

    @talkcork

    Bingo, but one cannot only dream on. Each oppo party has its so-called principle and agenda and as far as I am concerned, I don’t think there can ever be a day where all or some of them can ever work together. In that aspect, I think WP takes the cake for being the most uncooperative oppo party to date, practically no hueing the other parties.

    From my own experience (in TRE) with WP (after JBJ time), they are one stuck-up and arrogant party. When [email protected] had the 1st hand info (MSM were only speculating then) on Yaw (their former MP) and had contacted them offering to help, they completely ignored us and refused to communicate with us. In the end the team decided that since they are like that, then TRE might as well report the issue and let MSM do the rest. Had WP communicated with TRE then, things might have been different and ended in a nicer way.

    Since then (Yaw’s affair), WP has refused to ‘talk’ to TRE. That was under “sue your pants off” time, but since TRE has not communicated with WP since, it is not known if the current leadership would also ‘bochap TRE or not. lol

    * For those who may be interested as to who Mr Yaw was, you may search on TRE. There are plenty of articles on him, by our contributors: http://www.tremeritus.net/?s=yaw+shin+leong

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  • Dorothy:

    xoxo:
    Frankly,i ,initially ,got impressed by LTK.
    Subsequently,i got tired of the wayang .

    I find LTK sneaky,sorry to say.

    Think Chen Show Mao more sincere.
    Pritam is a protege of LTK and worships LTK and adore him?

    We need PSP N SDP in parLEEmen to turn it into parliament .

    ————————————-
    I beg to differ. OMG, Chen Sow Miao sincere??? This is the worst oppostion member I have seen in parliament. What has he done or speak up those years?? This man is is a fake. Good for the stage show but just poor for the MP seat.

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  • talkcork:

    @TRE Techie

    Actually after observing WP and the rest of the opposition parties, I realise something. LTK is long sighted and understand the real politics, he did all these to win ground. Initially, I was unhappy why WP refused to work with other oppositions, since PAPPY is the common enemy.

    1. I saw how NSP with GMS/Nicole who did very well in East Coast disintegrated into nothing.

    2. SDP founded by CST disintegrated after good showing in Potong Pasir.

    3. How Chiam continued to stick to his old school and his protege abandoned the ship and found another party. His next protege of PP gave up just gave up.

    4. How many other parties are constantly politicking each other. Everyone wants to be the big brother or big boss, no one wants to bend. Nicole finally saw the problem of such, she could join other smaller party and be some big shot there, but she joined WP. She actually revealed she was naive at NSP to understand that they were games being played. Many people at WP are sincere honestly, not just Nicole, every week, I see them working weekdays visiting all the homes in all the GRCs they are contesting. You tell me, how many of us have this kind of energy?

    5. How Singaporeans dont want to give their votes to small parties like Lim Tean and KJ etc.

    6. Many political moles or fake social media planted by PAPPY to play backside and stir bs about oppositions.

    So in conclusion, I believe LTK understood the issues of being part of the “complex politicking of parties” and also avoided all the social media because he probably think he might be caught in the politics or the mud.

    The opposition parties a lot of them wont not win anything until they become as big as PSP or WP, they can go on politicking and writing articles, they cant win any. They will go down in the wilderness.

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  • Zhenzidan:

    talkcork:
    I think you guys have not been fair to WP.

    The likes of JBJ did not last, he won 1 seat and he was thrown out due to unfair judgement. Yes we want everything to be fair and justice, and all to speak out without fear and repercussion. But Singaporeans being conditioned, timid and brainwashed by PAPPY propaganda does not buy that. JBJ only had 1 success, Chiam’s party disintegrated into wilderness.

    WP has won more than 12 seats now. Until it becomes a force, they have to play by the rules and within the rules. TSL can cry about Chia Thye Poh and unfair detention, but honestly most Singaporeans dont care. Isn’t it? Yes I think PAPPY should apologise to these detainees as a person who believes in justice. But how many other Singaporeans will think like me? Most Singaporeans only care what affects them most and justice and whatever they dont bother much. WP caters to their needs and this explains why they have expanded in parliament.

    Dont get me wrong, I support your cause and feel for you but lets be practical, these Singaporeans have been brainwashed into self centred and selfish who only cares about themselves and issues closest to them. There is no point trying to rub this again and again and they wont change. You have to be practical, cant be dreamy. KJ son of JBJ has been trying to emulate his dad but what he did win? Nothing…..

    I think all oppositions or activists should adjust your strategies to fit the environment, WP has done this part well, they give what the environment is asking and expanded. If you keep crying operation spectrum or Chia Thye Poh till your death, I assure you nothing will ever change.

    Remember, enemy of PAPPY is a friend, the common enemy is PAPPY, they brought us and citizens all these bs.

    Well said, my friend!

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  • Zhenzidan:

    talkcork:
    @TRE Techie

    Actually after observing WP and the rest of the opposition parties, I realise something. LTK is long sighted and understand the real politics, he did all these to win ground. Initially, I was unhappy why WP refused to work with other oppositions, since PAPPY is the common enemy.

    1. I saw how NSP with GMS/Nicole who did very well in East Coast disintegrated into nothing.

    2. SDP founded by CST disintegrated after good showing in Potong Pasir.

    3. How Chiam continued to stick to his old school and his protege abandoned the ship and found another party. His next protege of PP gave up just gave up.

    4. How many other parties are constantly politicking each other. Everyone wants to be the big brother or big boss, no one wants to bend. Nicole finally saw the problem of such, she could join other smaller party and be some big shot there, but she joined WP. She actually revealed she was naive at NSP to understand that they were games being played. Many people at WP are sincere honestly, not just Nicole, every week, I see them working weekdays visiting all the homes in all the GRCs they are contesting. You tell me, how many of us have this kind of energy?

    5. How Singaporeans dont want to give their votes to small parties like Lim Tean and KJ etc.

    6. Many political moles or fake social media planted by PAPPY to play backside and stir bs about oppositions.

    So in conclusion, I believe LTK understood the issues of being part of the “complex politicking of parties” and also avoided all the social media because he probably think he might be caught in the politics or the mud.

    The opposition parties a lot of them wont not win anything until they become as big as PSP or WP, they can go on politicking and writing articles, they cant win any. They will go down in the wilderness.

    No need to explain to the TECH. He comes across to me like another GMS, small-minded, and bear grudges. You noticed TRE is the only website that likes to attack WP no matter what WP did. Even winning another GRC also this TRE Tech will have something to pick on. I tell you, even if WP were to really one day take over as the ruling govt, this same TRE Tech will turn around and say Singapore under WP is becoming worse than under PAP!

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  • @talkcork

    What you said is all possible, not only WP, all oppos are stucked up as well.

    Whatever, to each his own.

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    talkcork:
    … these Singaporeans have been brainwashed into self centred and selfish who only cares about themselves and issues closest to them.

    Yes, you really truly talkcork.

    There is nothing wrong being self centred and selfish. Every man for himself.

    Money Talk Bull Shit Walk.

    Even your Ang Mo is All Angel Boris Johnson also sing a different tune despite the smelly and dirty poor human rights records.

    PM seeks to strengthen UK trade ties with Beijing at No 10 roundtable despite Uighur abuses
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/feb/21/boris-johnsons-warm-words-on-china-likely-to-infuriate-backbenchers

    1. 原姿晴:精人走頭 傻仔送頭
    (Canto English translation: The smart run away with donated money, the stupid do jail time)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dniym7f8uS4
    2. 港獨頭目不顧支持者被抓落跑出國 (translation: Leaders first to flee with donated money, Dumped supporters do jail time)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PEh6FhjTxs

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  • I don’t pick on any particular party or individual, not my style. I comment on what I saw and how I feel about it and at times, I may be wrong. So this is where avid readers can and are welcome to correct me.

    As far as my view of WP is concerned, I merely commented based on what I have observed and experienced. Again, that’s my individual perspective and I may be wrong and no one need to agree with me, if they don’t want to. To each his own.

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  • talkcork:

    @TRE Techie

    Teo Soh Lung, KJ and Lim Tean whoever can keep writing articles and sending video and the content is real, what can they do? They want to be big bosses and sing the same tunes every GE and keep losing.

    Nicole S. understands and sees the problem and decided the best option, you really think she is naive to join WP?

    SMRT Feedback already sold out themselves to the devils and now kissing PAPPY every day. Independent? 新加坡网? All the manufactured fake media reporting to PAPPY…. If you are LTK, what will you do? For one rejection, you already so bias. TRE has been demonished by MSM into a negative all out against PAPPY, full of hatred and vengeance. I asked many people to read TRE, he said this is anti PAPPY anti country website and only criticise and insult PAPPY. If you are LTK, what will you do?

    You only look at one thing and one turn off and turn it into disgust and bias. What you fail is to look at the big picture, the environment and the peasants and what is the best for Singapore.

    Ok man stick to your stubborn mule, my dad is the same… wrong also must stick to his wish.

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  • @talkcork

    I have nothing against ANY party. I merely expressed my observation and my encounter with them, that’s all. Like I said, I could be wrong and if things change, then I will of course change my perspective then. Until that happens, my perspective of them remains solely my own.

    Others are free to disagree and think otherwise, I respect their views as well.

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  • Zhenzidan:

    TRE Techie:
    @talkcork

    I have nothing against ANY party. I merely expressed my observation and my encounter with them, that’s all. Like I said, I could be wrong and if things change, then I will of course change my perspective then. Until that happens, my perspective of them remains solely my own.

    Others are free to disagree and think otherwise, I respect their views as well.

    See, true character exposed by talkcork and now trying to wriggle your way out. Write anything against WP and you will add fuel again.

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  • @Zhenzidan

    You damned funny, why you like to extrapolate other’s responses and take them out of context?

    I have friends who have been to prison and when I said that they were in prison, that is a matter of fact, PERIOD. HOWEVER, that does not mean that I despise them or have anything against them.

    Going by the above comment, then you would like to add that because I said they were in prison, I am therefore saying that I hate and despise them?

    And going by the logic that you have been holding about others, I admitted that I support Nicole and would continue to support her regardless of whichever party she chooses to join, means that I am madly in love with her and have a crush on her issit?

    I love to engage in meaningful discussion with others but I do not like to play word games, so you are welcome to engage me in what I have said, not what you think I would and mean to say.

    I am a very lowly educated and simple person, so 1 is 1 and 2 is 2, simple and straightforward. If I had wanted to say I don’t like WP, I would loudly say so and you can quote me on that. Until then, if I did not say that, then please don’t put words in my mouth.

    What I merely did in this thread is to express my opinion of what I perceive the WP to be, right or wrong, it’s entirely mine and my opinion alone. Anyone is free to agree or disagree with me, it’s their right and I respect that. I would certainly not impose upon them to agree with me.

    If you are here to play word games with me, then sorry, it’s beyond my pay grade. Please go and play with someone in the same pay grade as you.

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  • Urgh...:

    Come on guys, all these talks about which oppo party is frankly a waste of time.

    You guys already know that the first goal is to disrupt the flow of how things work, which is the 2/3 power hold in parliament, so monkeys or not just send them in.

    But the majority of the voters aren’t ready for change, and the apathetic and honestly lost vibes of these people will also not encourage the environment to attract the raw talent to change the status quo, so things will stay the same until enough of them feel pain for change and create the environment ripe for it.

    Also remember that the constituents of the voter base will always be refreshed to new invitees/supporters that see the govt as the “savior”, so only death have the best shot at changing things in this lifetime.

    Conclusion: just live your life well and treat this place as it is, a big grand hotel. Enjoy the first row seat of the decay of a nation under the hands of the incompetent leadership and the coward voters, and sip your favorite drink to appreciate the tragedy of wasted opportunities.

    Cheers to you all ladies and gentlemen!

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  • Gostangohead:

    This confirms the current ruling party, the PAP has an excellent performance all these years. Only in paradise could anyone enjoy his life as if he is staying in abig grand hotel!

    Urgh...:

    Conclusion: just live your life well and treat this place as it is, a big grand hotel. Enjoy the first row seat of the decay of a nation under the hands of the incompetent leadership and the coward voters, and sip your favorite drink to appreciate the tragedy of wasted opportunities.

    Cheers to you all ladies and gentlemen!

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  • To Gostangohead:

    Whether or not it is paradise, and whether PAP’s performance is excellent, it depends entirely on who you ask and the person’s definition of success.

    But Sg’s “business” model is definitely a hotel/hospitality model to serve the governing power and $$.

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