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The B16172 Covid-19 Variant from India

Just after I talk about my suspicion that it might be the India Variant that have invaded TTSH….

This is my greatest fear coming true. The so call expert in MOH still want to boast about how effective the vaccines are after so many vaccinated staffs kena infected inspite of more hygiene conscious?!

What a load of Bull S here! Well, is this the same expert telling people not to wear mask if not well?

If staff to patient ratio is 1 to 3, by these current statistics, the statistical inference would be that these vaccines are totally useless against the variant!

 

Goh Meng Seng

 

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33 Responses to “The B16172 Covid-19 Variant from India”

  • MarBowling:

    GMS,

    Be very careful of what you said that “these vaccines are totally USELESS”!

    Be prepared to Kenna POFMAed!

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  • Sheet!:

    Kena sai lah!

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  • Cannot Close Border ?:

    Lawrence mentioned that Singapore cannot close its border as we need Foreigners to help us.

    How come we need to build more flats as our population is not increasing rapidly ? Build for whom ?

    From the reports, we recruited Accountant from India, Physio Therapist from Malaysia, Assistant Manager from Vietnam etc..You mean Singaporeans cannot do these jobs ?

    Please don’t talk cock. Is the PAP really looking after Singaporeans ?

    Definitely we need to vote in more Opposition in the next GE.

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  • Pap has the mandate:

    Just like the Flu injection, it is always one step behind. This indian version is a killer one and highly contagious.

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  • oxygen:

    CNBC reported this -

    Singapore says it has detected the ‘double mutant’ Covid variant from India in its community, tightens restrictions

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/04/double-mutant-covid-variant-from-india-detected-in-singapore.html

    IF THIS IS CORRECT, the risks and dangers become elevated, I suspect.

    WHAT IF the “double mutant” turned rogue, circumvent and modify immune systems of those ALREADY VACCINATED and turned it back against the host – this time trigger sudden death collapse at home, on the street or public transport?

    ONE CANNOT RULE OUT ANY POSSIBILITY – too much unknown and LEE-jiapore – not like spaces of big countries like India, China, USA, Russia, Brazil etc etc – is TIGHTLY CONGESTED LIVING AND PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION SPACE easily facilitating the faster pandemic spread worst then wild fire fanned by strong winds which changed directions very quickly.

    IT IS SCARY – those vaccinated already can’t turn the clock backward!!

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  • Lim:

    The most important thing that government not yet done is to ban travel to and from nations affected with mutated covid variant.

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  • 習禁評:

    讓度疫苗專利 ?

    為什麼中國自己不馬上讓度 ?
    不是說要建什麼命運共同體嗎 ?

    蘇聯為什麼也不馬上讓度 ?

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  • india terror:

    Many countries have special flights to evacuate their citizens from India.

    Australia PM told his citizens in India, “You die there your business. Cannot come back.”

    Did he learn from PAP?

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  • start rubbing nose:

    //Be very careful of what you said that “these vaccines are totally USELESS”!//

    aiyoh. how to know whether totally USELESS or partly USEFUL and each with his own definition of what it means with such words (qualitative ??) ?

    anyone (or experts) wants to be guinea pigs and start rubbing nose with a seriously ill infected person with the variant that he has mentioned to prove (or disprove) his point ?? else it is easy to say 100%, 95%, 90% totally, fully or significantly from ‘limited’ sample size (the real size is the population where the virus (or mutants) is having fun with human intelligence and the way human beings love running their lives with close social and business connections ???) ??? imagine now, cannot even visit your close ones (or restricted nos) in a hospital even when the ills need family members most in such situation for such support ???

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  • xoxo:

    Why So many of them passed through our airport gates when there is a claimed HIGH STANDARD OF TEST AT OUR CHECKPOINTS?

    So,whose are to be held responsible for allowing new-variant-infected PRs,etc to come in?

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  • Goofy:

    There is little we can do if one wants to commit sucide.

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  • Soccerbetting2:

    Reported on Straits Times :Quote-”Eight lions in Indian zoo test positive for Covid-19
    The Nehru Zoological Park has now been closed.

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    HYDERABAD (REUTERS) – Eight Asiatic lions at an Indian zoo have contracted the coronavirus, the government said on Tuesday (May 4), adding that there was no evidence that animals could transmit the disease to humans.

    Zoo authorities in the southern state of Hyderabad shared samples with a government research laboratory on March 24 after the lions showed signs of respiratory distress.

    The test results come amid a huge surge in coronavirus infections among humans in India.

    “Based on experience with zoo animals elsewhere in the world that have experienced Sars-CoV-2 positive last year, there is no factual evidence that animals can transmit the disease to humans any further,” the Ministry of Environment, Forest and Climate Change said.

    The Nehru Zoological Park has now been closed, it said in a statement.

    India has reported more than 300,000 daily Covid-19 infections for 13 straight days and has now recorded 20 million cases of the disease, the second highest number in the world after the United States.”Unquote.

    Response : “there was no evidence that animals could transmit the disease to humans.”

    So who transmit the covid 19 to the lions ? It is the Indian beasts .So there is no way transmission flow ,sure ?

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  • Harder Truths:

    oxygen: WHAT IF the “double mutant” turned rogue, circumvent and modify immune systems of those ALREADY VACCINATED and turned it back against the host – this time trigger sudden death collapse at home, on the street or public transport?

    There is already a triple mutant strain from Ah-Neh Land. Coming to a hawker centre near you.

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  • GeneVac:

    https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/nine-of-the-40-covid-19-cases-in-the-ttsh-cluster-who-were-vaccinated-had-mild-to-no
    “Seven of them are staff, while the other two are patients, said Ministry of Health (MOH) director of medical services Kenneth Mak in an update on Tuesday (May 4).
    However, among those who had not been vaccinated, seven required oxygen therapy, said Associate Professor Mak at the multi-ministry task force on Covid-19 press conference.”

    Vaccination is a double edged sword!

    According to Prof KM those 9 infected cases with full vaccination don’t require oxygen therapy with mild or no symptoms! He fail to notice that these cases are also silently spreading the virus creating havoc at TTSH & leak into the communities via the infected visitors!

    The virus may be spreading in the communities insidiously by those fully vaccinated infected cases with mild or no symptoms! It is better to stop the VacciNation!

    Furthermore, we have no knowledge re those fully vaccinated infected cases who don’t require oxygen could be due to their overall health status compared with those non-vaccinated infected cases who require oxygen therapy may have other underlying illnesses!

    For Prof to say that “vaccine has done well” is too simplistic & smells of “koyok” selling!

    Just wait & see!

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  • ftrashtr4:

    Papigs are right—FT create jobs for sinkies; jobs like SDA, covid testers, nurses and many other jobs in the medical field.
    B1617 will drastically reduce the unemployment rate.
    There are so many other countries where we can get our constuction workers.
    Why need B1617 -infected version.
    Which business-faction in the papig will be most affected if CECA is shredded and border closed to Cecalanders.

    Cannot Close Border ?:
    Lawrence mentioned that Singapore cannot close its border as we need Foreigners to help us.

    How come we need to build more flats as our population is not increasing rapidly ? Build for whom ?

    From the reports, we recruited Accountant from India, Physio Therapist from Malaysia, Assistant Manager from Vietnam etc..You mean Singaporeans cannot do these jobs ?

    Please don’t talk cock. Is the PAP really looking after Singaporeans ?

    Definitely we need to vote in more Opposition in the next GE.

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  • Harder Truths:

    There are 1.4 billion people in India. All of them will get CoVID sooner or later. There will be many many many variants that cannot be treated.

    There will be many many many coming to $G as CECA guests. Time to invest in coffins.

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  • Vaccine:

    Why re-infection of those already fully vaccinated? Almost unheard off or perhaps rare in the US and Europe. Is it true that in SG the vaccine is mixed with other solution before it is administered? Remember the case of the nurse who received an overdose because her colleague thought the vaccine had already been diluted? With what and does this affect the efficacy? How can a person be so quickly re-infected after receiving full vaccination? Less than 3 or 6 months?

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  • Smart Nation:

    PAP chooses “risk management” over “border closing,” economic necessity over loss of lives. They don’t count on the virus to spread like what is happening in India or a repeat of what happened in the dorms; but if it does spread, the people must hold them accountable. Will the
    the PAP G compensate Covid-related deaths for not closing the border and “importing” the virus?

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  • MarBowling:

    Vaccine:
    May 5, 2021 at 11:34 pm (Quote)
    Why re-infection of those already fully vaccinated? Almost unheard off or perhaps rare in the US and Europe. Is it true that in SG the vaccine is mixed with other solution before it is administered? Remember the case of the nurse who received an overdose because her colleague thought the vaccine had already been diluted? With what and does this affect the efficacy? How can a person be so quickly re-infected after receiving full vaccination? Less than 3 or 6 months?

    Response::another possibility is the time TAKEN and CONdition of the vaccines from its original distribution centre(Point A) to the shore of SinKapore.(Point B)! Any assurance that LAPSES won’t occur from Point A to Point B?
    Stuffs such as TEMPERATURES(minus 70 degrees) of the Holee vaccines are STRICTLY FOLLOWED and MAINTAINED through the Holee Journey. We NEED CREDIBLE folks to ensure that there is NO HANKY-PANKY stuff such as the HONEST MISTAKE like the CLEARING of state land at Kranji, construction of a $800,000 dustbin!

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  • oxygen:

    @ GeneVac

    @ Vaccine

    BRILLIANT POST CONTRIBUTIONS, mates – thank you BOTH for sharing.

    PUBLIC INFORMATION from officialdom is NO LONGER SCIENCE but politics-bias based.

    Peasants have to be extra careful, sieving out what is selectively “informing” through mainstream media sources and FIGURING OUT WHAT IS CONCEALED OR NOT REVEALED to/in public eye and mind.

    Why must I be constantly reminded of the gibberish fiction – masks is not needed and then is sudden roundabout turn?

    I am relying only on the alternative/social media for information.

    DYOR (do your own research) for personal safety.

    GeneVac: Vaccination is a double edged sword!

    According to Prof KM those 9 infected cases with full vaccination don’t require oxygen therapy with mild or no symptoms! He fail to notice that these cases are also silently spreading the virus creating havoc at TTSH & leak into the communities via the infected visitors!

    The virus may be spreading in the communities insidiously by those fully vaccinated infected cases with mild or no symptoms! It is better to stop the VacciNation!

    Furthermore, we have no knowledge re those fully vaccinated infected cases who don’t require oxygen could be due to their overall health status compared with those non-vaccinated infected cases who require oxygen therapy may have other underlying illnesses!

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    Vaccine: Why re-infection of those already fully vaccinated? Almost unheard off or perhaps rare in the US and Europe. Is it true that in SG the vaccine is mixed with other solution before it is administered? Remember the case of the nurse who received an overdose because her colleague thought the vaccine had already been diluted? With what and does this affect the efficacy? How can a person be so quickly re-infected after receiving full vaccination? Less than 3 or 6 months?

    For Prof to say that “vaccine has done well” is too simplistic & smells of “koyok” selling!

    Just wait & see!

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  • oxygen:

    Ooops, posting glitch, reposting again below for clarity read. Sorry.

    @ GeneVac

    @ Vaccine

    BRILLIANT POST CONTRIBUTIONS, mates – thank you BOTH for sharing.

    PUBLIC INFORMATION from officialdom is NO LONGER SCIENCE but politics-bias based.

    Peasants have to be extra careful, sieving out what is selectively “informing” through mainstream media sources and FIGURING OUT WHAT IS CONCEALED OR NOT REVEALED to/in public eye and mind.

    Why must I be constantly reminded of the gibberish fiction – masks is not needed and then is sudden roundabout turn?

    I am relying only on the alternative/social media for information.

    DYOR (do your own research) for personal safety.

    GeneVac: Vaccination is a double edged sword!

    According to Prof KM those 9 infected cases with full vaccination don’t require oxygen therapy with mild or no symptoms! He fail to notice that these cases are also silently spreading the virus creating havoc at TTSH & leak into the communities via the infected visitors!

    The virus may be spreading in the communities insidiously by those fully vaccinated infected cases with mild or no symptoms! It is better to stop the VacciNation!

    Furthermore, we have no knowledge re those fully vaccinated infected cases who don’t require oxygen could be due to their overall health status compared with those non-vaccinated infected cases who require oxygen therapy may have other underlying illnesses!

    For Prof to say that “vaccine has done well” is too simplistic & smells of “koyok” selling!

    Just wait & see!

    and this

    Vaccine: Why re-infection of those already fully vaccinated? Almost unheard off or perhaps rare in the US and Europe. Is it true that in SG the vaccine is mixed with other solution before it is administered? Remember the case of the nurse who received an overdose because her colleague thought the vaccine had already been diluted? With what and does this affect the efficacy? How can a person be so quickly re-infected after receiving full vaccination? Less than 3 or 6 months?

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  • I agree with you:

    I heard about the boiling frog story when I was young.

    Some time ago I associated it with Singaporeans enjoying all kinds of “subsidies”, “rebates”, “grants” and the likes without realizing that we would be displaced by FOs (FTs, FWs) not just in jobs, but housing too.

    Now, I think the frogs are going to be “squeezed and infected” to death, not just by the “heat and pressure”.

    The smart frogs would jump off from the bowl, that is provided they have the resources and willpower.

    oxygen:
    CNBC reported this -

    Singapore says it has detected the ‘double mutant’ Covid variant from India in its community, tightens restrictions

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/04/double-mutant-covid-variant-from-india-detected-in-singapore.html

    IF THIS IS CORRECT, the risks and dangers become elevated, I suspect.

    WHAT IF the “double mutant” turned rogue, circumvent and modify immune systems of those ALREADY VACCINATED and turned it back against the host – this time trigger sudden death collapse at home, on the street or public transport?

    ONE CANNOT RULE OUT ANY POSSIBILITY – too much unknown and LEE-jiapore – not like spaces of big countries like India, China, USA, Russia, Brazil etc etc – is TIGHTLY CONGESTED LIVING AND PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION SPACE easily facilitating the faster pandemic spread worst then wild fire fanned by strong winds which changed directions very quickly.

    IT IS SCARY – those vaccinated already can’t turn the clock backward!!

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  • Lame excuse of LW:

    PAP builds flats and condo (built by private developers) for immigrants, new PRs and naturalized Singaporeans while poor Singaporeans who marry foreign spouses are not eligible to buy a new flat.

    If PAP had built enough housing why are prices still rising so rapidly?

    LW was former MND Minister and all he said was “monitor the market”. At least Khaw is better than him.

    He was the second Finance Minister when his ministry paid excess covid money to companies by mistake.

    Now he is the Finance Minister, the top horse to take over from LHL.

    Even MAS chief now said we need foreigners. Is he an Indian, does he report to LW?

    Cannot Close Border ?:
    Lawrence mentioned that Singapore cannot close its border as we need Foreigners to help us.

    How come we need to build more flats as our population is not increasing rapidly ? Build for whom ?

    From the reports, we recruited Accountant from India, Physio Therapist from Malaysia, Assistant Manager from Vietnam etc..You mean Singaporeans cannot do these jobs ?

    Please don’t talk cock. Is the PAP really looking after Singaporeans ?

    Definitely we need to vote in more Opposition in the next GE.

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  • lee keh kian:

    Suggest we TEST all Indian FTs and their families here to make sure.

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  • Time to Pay Back:

    Guess there is no free lunch. For the gain we received from having foreign workers serving us and helping in our GDP growth, there will come a time to pay back. It’s better to treat your people better, because they could go through the crisis with you.

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  • Soccerbetting2:

    Reported on Straits Times :Quote-”Scientists say India government ignored warnings amid coronavirus surge
    India is struggling to contain a second wave of infections much more severe than its first last year.
    India is struggling to contain a second wave of infections much more severe than its first last year.PHOTO: REUTERS
    PUBLISHEDMAY 1, 2021, 11:47 AM SGT
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    NEW DELHI (REUTERS) – A forum of scientific advisers set up by the government warned Indian officials in early March of a new and more contagious variant of the coronavirus taking hold in the country, five scientists who are part of the forum told Reuters.

    Despite the warning, four of the scientists said the federal government did not seek to impose major restrictions to stop the spread of the virus.

    Millions of largely unmasked people attended religious festivals and political rallies that were held by Prime Minister Narendra Modi, leaders of the ruling Bharatiya Janata Party and opposition politicians.

    Tens of thousands of farmers, meanwhile, continued to camp on the edge of New Delhi protesting against Mr Modi’s agricultural policy changes.

    The world’s second-most populous country is now struggling to contain a second wave of infections much more severe than its first last year, which some scientists say is being accelerated by the new variant and another variant first detected in Britain. India reported 386,452 new cases on Friday (April 30), a global record.

    The spike in infections is India’s biggest crisis since Mr Modi took office in 2014. It remains to be seen how his handling of it might affect him or his party politically.

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    The next general election is due in 2024. Voting in the most recent local elections was largely completed before the scale of the new surge in infections became apparent.

    The warning about the new variant in early March was issued by the Indian Sars-CoV-2 Genetics Consortium, or Insacog.

    It was conveyed to a top official who reports directly to the prime minister, according to one of the scientists, the director of a research centre in northern India who spoke on condition of anonymity.

    Reuters could not determine whether the Insacog findings were passed on to Mr Modi himself.

    Mr Modi’s office did not respond to a request for comment from Reuters.

    Insacog was set up as a forum of scientific advisers by the government in late December specifically to detect genomic variants of the coronavirus that might threaten public health.

    Insacog researchers first detected B1617, which is now known as the Indian variant of the virus, as early as February, Dr Ajay Parida, director of the state-run Institute of Life Sciences….”Unquote.

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  • GMS is an fool:

    The “original” virus can still kill, especially the elderly, so getting vaccinated still makes sense. For them the chances of dying from COVID is much higher than from an allergic reaction to the vaccine.

    Also it might be possible to get better protection from the deadlier virus variant by having a 3rd injection. If you do not have the first two injections the chances of dying from the virus variant is much higher because you have no immunity from vaccination to build on. Building up immunity takes time. The virus can take you out before you can build up your immunity from 3 injections.

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  • Lee Boon Yang talking cock:

    SPH to restructure media business into not-for-profit entity to support quality journalism

    “Announcing the move on Thursday (May 6), SPH chairman Lee Boon Yang said the transfer will enable the media business to focus on quality journalism and invest in talent and new technology to strengthen its digital capabilities.”

    As long as Singapore does not have press freedom as indicated by its very low 150+ press freedom ranking (out of 180) it is not possible to have “quality journalism” in Singapore.

    The fact is Singapore is a PAP-run police state. It is “North Korea Lite” or and expensive North Korea. (As a result, elections in Singapore are not really “free and fair”. Singapore democracy is a farce – an oxymoron.) The press is tightly controlled by PAP. It past of the party’s propaganda arm. It is that simple.

    Most Singaporeans now get their news from social media. I only buy the Saturday edition of Straits Times when I run out of paper to use to pick up the shit of my puppy.

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  • Soccerbetting2:

    Reported on the TISG :Quote -”Chee Soon Juan: PAP will be wholly to blame if the disease triggers another unthinkable lockdown
    ‘PAP let in foreigners even as imported cases increased’

    Photo: FB / Chee Soon Juan

    AUTHOR

    Obbana Rajah
    DATE

    May 6, 2021
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    InternationalCOVID 19Home News
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    Singapore — Criticising the People’s Action Party (PAP) for the way it handled the Covid-19 pandemic, DR Chee Soon Juan wrote that it was unfair for Singaporeans to bear the consequences of the risks taken by the Government.

    In a Facebook post on Wednesday (May 5) that garnered over 2,700 likes and almost 500 comments, the Singapore Democratic Party (SDP) secretary-general wrote that Singaporeans have been “exceedingly cooperative since the onset of the pandemic despite the many bungles the PAP has committed with regards to the spread of the disease”.

    Criticising the PAP, he wrote: “Singaporeans remember that just prior to the surge of infections in March 2020, the PAP exploited the situation and started campaigning for elections that it wanted to call. The subsequent deterioration of the situation ultimately resulted in the Circuit Breaker.”

    “As a consequence (of the Circuit Breaker), the country had to incur nearly $100 billion to dig ourselves out of the hole”, Dr Chee wrote.

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    He commended the people of Singapore for their cooperation and obeyance of the rules in order to bring down the number of Covid-19 cases.

    “What more could the people have done? How many more regulations does the government want the people to follow that they haven’t already?” Dr Chee asked.

    Citing Education Minister and multi-ministry Covid-19 task force co-chair Lawrence Wong, who said that “that “we’ve always taken a risk-based approach in managing our borders from the start”, Dr Chee asked if these risks were warranted.

    “While many other governments took decisive and strong measures to close their borders when circumstances necessitated it, the PAP insisted on letting in foreigners even as the number of imported cases here rose”, he wrote, adding that Singaporeans had to bear the consequences of such risks.

    Dr Chee concluded his post by adding that Singaporeans are watching closely “as the nation cannot afford another surge of the disease. The PAP will be wholly to blame if the disease triggers another unthinkable lockdown”.

    Netizens who commented on his post agreed with him, with some adding that his sentiments conveyed what they felt….”Unquote.

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  • UK is in Total Unlock?:

    Let’s see if the vaccine is effective in UK.

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  • GMS is an fool:
    The “original” virus can still kill, especially the elderly, so getting vaccinated still makes sense.For them the chances of dying from COVID is much higher than from an allergic reaction to the vaccine.

    Also it might be possible to get better protection from the deadlier virus variant by having a 3rd injection. If you do not have the first two injections the chances of dying from the virus variant is much higher because you have no immunity from vaccination to build on. Building up immunity takes time.The virus can take you out before you can build up your immunity from 3 injections.

    So maybe MOH should make it a policy to vaccinate everytime a different variant emerges or maybe vaccinate on a quarterly basis? lol

    Maybe you don’t know this but I read somewhere that there has NEVER been an effective vaccine against ANY of the strains and variants of Coronavirus (not just C-19) that has been living in our society, what makes this RUSHED and LESS-TESTED vaccine so special that it is going to be 95% successful???

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  • Read today news:

    Today on the straits times cover page, government seems not imposing total ban on Indian workers coming to Singapore, leaving gaps for mutants to enter Singapore.

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