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Deal with real problems

We should not ignore problems. But we should not over react to problems that may not arise.

Some of the potential problems are:

a) Increase in racial tensions
b) Serious spread of covid infection

Over reaction to potential problems also have its consequences and costs. It will divert our attention away from the real problems

I will share some examples.

Recently, there was a viral video about a Chinese making a racist comment to an Indian who is counting another Chinese. This video was taken to reflect a strong racist tendency in Singapore.

I believe that this incident is isolated. They are many examples of inter marriages in Singapore. They are well accepted.

Indeed, some people suspect that the incident could be faked and created for sensational purpose.

I shared the same view. Someone commented against my view and stated that we should not ignore problems.

I replied that it was an isolated incident and does not reflect the views of the majority of the Chinese. We should distinguish between a small problem and a big problem and act when it becomes a big problem.

We should not over react, as it also has its consequences and costs.

I quote another example concerning our reaction to the covid situation in Singapore.

I observed that the covid situation is quite mild in Singapore. The government leaders are worried that the infection can get serious, as they saw the heavy toll in several countries. The ministers implemented severe restrictions.

Some people have complained that they acted too slowly and too leniently.

I hold a different view. I find that the restrictions were hasty and too severe. Indeed, it has caused a lot of damage to businesses and the livelihood of many people.

The people who advocated the strong measures may not realize about the harmful economic consequence of taking the strong actions.

It is a matter of judgment.

I want to quote this as an example about dealing with a real problem, and not over reacting to a problem that may not arise.

 

Tan Kin Lian

 

 

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41 Responses to “Deal with real problems”

  • whoa:

    Accumulated cases of Covid in Singapore 62,219, deaths, 34. Population of Singapore 5,704,0000. Infection rate: 1.1% !!! Mortality rate 5/100′s of 1 %. Pretty good numbers….

    Now what is the number one cause of personal injury in Singapore? (from treatable abrasions to death),

    VICTIMES OF BICYCLE AND PMD ASSULTS! This since the woke decision of allowing riders on narrow pavements and void decks with no, (NO) speed limits with zero enforcement of the few rules that do exist. Could this be a REAL PROBLEM?

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  • Tremendous:

    Here’s the deal. When you let in the new variant from Indieland to the village and make the village second among all villages for variant disease, OWN UP.
    When you shut down villagers’ concerns on social platforms on long term effects for vaccines, OWN UP.
    Bloody idiot finance and health chiefs in a bloody idiot team.

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  • Blame PAP and Temasek:

    Straits Times: SMRT worker killed, another injured on Sunday when car jack supporting bus gives way

    WTF. This happens every year. Temasek is the major shareholder of SMRT.

    This just proves again that Singapore is still a 3rd World country.

    Lee Con You limited the number of young Singaporeans that can get a local university education. To make matters worse he did not upgrade the skilled trades. He just wanted cheap unskilled workers. That is why skilled tradesmen like mason, carpenters, plumbers, ironworkers, etc. do not exist in Singapore. The pay is so low Singaporeans do not want to be in it. In 1st World countries like the US, Canada, UK, EU, Japan and Australia, except Singapore, skilled tradesmen have a decent salary and can have a good life.

    The entire construction industry is dependent on cheap, unskilled foreign workers. That is why “shoddy work” is the norm in the construction industry, especially in the building of HDB flats. This is also the reason for the unreliability of the MRT – poor construction and installation of equipment and poor maintenance.

    Singapore is really a 3rd World country (with 1st World prices) because the quality of work is still 3rd World. The only exception is PAP officeholders. They get “Out-of-This-World” pay (higher than 1st World) , the highest on the planet, without accountability because elections in Singapore are not “free and fair” because of the lack of basic freedoms and a free press. Singapore is a PAP-run police state.

    LKY, “Mr GDP” (Good Dead Permanently), is gone. He is never ever coming back. The next goal for Singaporeans is to “bury” always self-serving and pro-alien PAP beside him at the next GE.

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  • xoxo:

    Real problems?
    Racism among sgs?
    Is it same as in Australia or even Malaysia.

    Real problems are like COST OF LIVING,HEALTH,AGEING POPULATION,HOUSING,JOBS ETC.

    One,suggest govt build COMPREHENSIVE RETIREMENT VILLAGES not representative kind like at Admiralty?
    Why take so long when comes to helping SGS?
    BUT TAKE $100 BILLION N INCREASE GST FASTER THAN LIGHTNING?!

    RETIREMENT VILLAGES IS A BASIC REQUIREMENT FOR A OVER-CROWDING CITY like SG.
    $10 BILLION IS 10 PCT OF $100 BILLION ONLY?

    WHY SO HESITANT?

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  • liew mun leong must be jailed:

    tan kin lian has made 2 good points although he is both right and wrong in his conclusions.

    he is right about racism and covid. he is wrong about cause and effect.

    racism in Singapore today started when pap appointed an INDIAN to be a malay president.

    covid HA restrictions today are implemented because pap is trying to close up the hole it has dug, the free ports of entry to aliens when aliens are yet to have gotten rid of the bug.

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  • xoxo:

    Each time,the gahmen creates a national problem by it own’s BAD policies or decisions,yhe gahmen would find WAYS TO DIVERT ATTENTION.
    Now,with errant decisions on border-entry and the *INVASION* OF FT-B1617,causing second wave here,RACISM SUDDENLY TAKES CENTRE-STAGE?

    A FEW INCIDENTS HERE N THERE IS NOT RACISM ?

    ORDINARY N NEEDY SGS ARE SUFFERING BECOS OF SUCH A GOVT ATTITUDE,IS IT NOT?

    WE ARE SGS N THIS IS AN ELECTED SGPOREAN GOVT WHICH IS SUPPOSE TO PUT SGS’ INTERESTS FIRST ,not some outsiders’?

    Dont MISCONTRUE XENOPHOBIA!

    ITS NOT XENOPHOBIC FOR THE GOVT TO TAKE GOOR CARE OF CITIZENS FIRST BEFORE NON-CITISENS.
    IN FACT,DOING THE OPPOSITE IS WRONG!

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  • Systemic racism:

    The President system is systemic racism.

    If a Chinese person becomes a very popular President with 99% vote every election, he may still be disqualified from running the subsequent election because, he is of the wrong race. Even when he has the popular support of all races.

    How lousy is this President race system?

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    Hello TKL,
    This show that we are a democratic country where everyone is free to express their own opinions.

    The only thing this guy is wrong : We are Singaporean. We are not Chinese.

    Chinese = PRc/ROc.

    If he sees himself as Chinese just like moron Goh Meng Seng, then he should fcuk back to PRc, a country that was hated by the world over for their vicious lies.

    金球獎最佳女導演趙婷: 中國是充滿謊言的國家
    https://www.thenewslens.com/article/148107

    ROc 蔡英文的假博士学位
    https://www.yzzk.com/article/details/%E4%B8%AD%E8%8F%AF%E5%A4%A9%E5%9C%B0%2F2019-39%2F1569470590686%2F%E8%94%A1%E8%8B%B1%E6%96%87%E5%8D%9A%E5%A3%AB%E8%AB%96%E6%96%87%E6%8E%80%E7%88%AD%E8%AD%B0

    ROc賀德芬:蔡英文論文是騙局!檢察官不必對我仁慈
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj57c9m2pKo

    GE2024.PAP.Guarantee.Win.HuatAgain
    Majullah $PAP$ $PAP$ Huat$ Huat$ Huat$

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  • Guo:

    My prom,is that I worry for the young.

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  • Bad Boy:

    After Guang Zhou, now China Wen Zhou also have cases.

    Fake news ? Unsure but sg better monitor closely.

    Tech: Yes, only 1 imported case, as Sinkieland would say, “imported case nia ma, nothing to worry about”. lol

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  • Muddle-up Task Force:

    TKL:
    Some people have complained that they acted too slowly and too leniently.
    I hold a different view. I find that the restrictions were hasty and too severe.

    YOU NEED TO RE-EXAMINE YOUR VIEW. BECAUSE THE MUDDLE-UP TASK FORCE FAIL TO CLOSE THE BORDERS TIMELY TO BAN FLIGHTS FROM SOUTH ASIA COUNTRIES RESULTING IN DELTA VARIANT INFILTRATING SG & CLUSTERS POPPING UP IN THE COMMUNITY! INORDER TO COMPENSATE FOR THEIR SLOWNESS IN CLOSING THE BORDERS THEY HAVE TO REACT AGGRESSIVELY TO REIN IN THE SITUATION!

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  • @M I K E:

    This “Bad Boy” is going after every pimple on the beautiful face of China.

    Jealous or what?

    China has 1.4 billion people. Wooden Goh would have said, “If no cases, I worry.”

    Bad Boy:
    After Guang Zhou, now China Wen Zhou also have cases.

    Fake news ? Unsure but sg better monitor closely.

    Tech: Yes, only 1 imported case, as Sinkieland would say, “imported case nia ma, nothing to worry about”. lol

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  • We Are Singaporean Chinese:

    @Singaporeans R Free Riders

    We are Singaporean Chinese. We are Chinese because of our skin, hair, eyes, the way we speak and think, language, religion etc..

    You cannot hide these facts. We can be One Nation by making all the races working and cooperating together.

    Unless you want a One Nation where an Indian cannot speak Tamil or Hindi, A Chinese who has very dark skin with blue eyes and a Malay who looks like a Caucasian ? A Rojak Nation where you don’t know or have your own background. Same thing apply for Malays, Indians or Eurasians.

    There is nothing wrong with being proud of your own race and background.

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  • mike:

    Why there need to be proud of your own race or background?

    If theory of evolution is not fake news, then we are all descendants of the apes. Proud? I will be more proud if i am a descendant of T-Rex speaking chinese.

    For known human histories, race is forever a topic used by politicians during time of uncertainties to divert attentions. Nationalism used for fighting external threats (or for threats to ruling power).

    One thing for sure, singapore is declining and the covid has helped to speed it up.

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  • mike:

    Dear @ 50c of Commie Covid Party

    Has your master washed the backside and get ready to pay 10 trillions in covid debts?

    I also jealous, 10 Trillions is just small change for CCP.

    Each countries impacted by covid can just cancel off their debts with CCP for down-payment. Sri Lanka will be happy to get their ports back. Malaysia, and Thailand too.

    Thank you Commie Covid Party!

    @M I K E:
    Jealous or what?

    China has 1.4 billion people. Wooden Goh would have said, “If no cases, I worry.”

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  • @M I K E:

    Someone who cannot understand English, cannot understand Chinese, frequently make up data about China, constantly rants about his hatred of his Chinese-looking appearance.

    You still have not shown where you got this “fact” that 600 million China people earn less than RMB1000 a month. Keep on misquoting LKQ like he’s your father who has given you permission to misquote him.

    mike:
    Dear @ 50c of Commie Covid Party

    Has your master washed the backside and get ready to pay 10 trillions in covid debts?

    I also jealous, 10 Trillions is just small change for CCP.

    Each countries impacted by covid can just cancel off their debts with CCP for down-payment. Sri Lanka will be happy to get their ports back. Malaysia, and Thailand too.

    Thank you Commie Covid Party!

    mike: Why there need to be proud of your own race or background?

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  • kaji:

    Racism is exposed easily now thanks to smartphones.

    Back then no evidence … so people can claim “isolated” case.

    For minorities in Singapore, this situation is nothing new.

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    We Are Singaporean Chinese:
    @Singaporeans R Free Riders

    We are Singaporean Chinese. We are Chinese because of our skin, hair, eyes, the way we speak and think, language, religion etc..

    You are a fcuking stupid Singaporeans. Like all opposition Singaporeans who are frogs in a well. They look up the sky from the well and excitingly tells everyone that the world is the size of the well.

    Ah hahahahahahaha….

    Can you tell me is this girl same skin, hair and eyes as you ?

    【多多其木格】43 蒙古美女搬新家,剛宰的新鮮羊肉拿來做燒烤!配上一瓶大烏蘇太上頭
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4ubgo8R3Pk

    Oppositions are as stupid as the Hong Kees who are easily manipulated by CIA.

    GE2024.PAP.Guarantee.Win.HuatAgain

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  • mike:

    Dear @ 50c of Commie Covid Party

    You lazy bum! :DDD

    You can search 李克强6亿人 for your own leisure okie? :DD
    Err… you use Baidu search izzit? So funny one.
    Don’t kay-kay ok, baidu also can find.

    Shameful, don’t even know what your master had said.

    If LKQ my daddy, i will ask him to hunt you down and send you to labour camp for not paying attention to what master had said.

    @M I K E:
    Someone who cannot understand English, cannot understand Chinese, frequently make up data about China, constantly rants about his hatred of his Chinese-looking appearance.

    You still have not shown where you got this “fact” that 600 million China people earn less than RMB1000 a month. Keep on misquoting LKQ like he’s your father who has given you permission to misquote him.

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  • Bad Boy:

    @ You still have not shown where you got this “fact” that 600 million China people earn less than RMB1000 a month.

    What the ….

    Errr…You muz have miss the news or brush it off perhaps on purpose.
    Li KeQiang said it himself.

    Or U mean Li KeQiang talk cock tell lies ???

    I see.

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  • @M I K E:

    Bad Boy also cannot understand Chinese?
    LKQ never said whatever you and Mike claimed he said.

    Mike, go read carefully please.

    mike: You can search 李克强6亿人 for your own leisure okie? :DD
    Err… you use Baidu search izzit? So funny one.

    Bad Boy:
    @ You still have not shown where you got this “fact” that 600 million China people earn less than RMB1000 a month.

    What the ….

    Errr…You muz have miss the news or brush it off perhaps on purpose.
    Li KeQiang said it himself.

    Or U mean Li KeQiang talk cock tell lies ???

    I see.

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  • What Are You:

    @Singaporeans Are Free Riders

    U called me a fucking Singaporeans, just curious what type of Singaporeans are you ?

    Are you a Mixed Blood, Gragoes, Chap Cheng or European with Black Backside ? Or a race without any heritage or background. A NOWHERE MAN.

    Anyway you cannot be in one of the the majority races. That’s why you have this farking attitude. We don’t normally criticised, but in this case you forced us to. KNNBCCB

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  • mike:

    Dear @ 50c of Commie Covid Party

    Ok ok, go deny. Can’t stop you denying. Same kind SGrean who complain every year but still vote the same in. What more can i say.

    Most of time in a democratically elected gov, the problem not lies with the gov but her people. What type of gov has what type of people, what type of people create what type of gov.

    Of coz, unless the election is rigged using voting machine and special vote counters, that no matter what you vote the result is determined.

    In a fair system, the people deserves their gov.

    So 50c, go deny go deny, as if i cared. ^.^

    @M I K E:
    LKQ never said whatever you and Mike claimed he said.

    Mike, go read carefully please.

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  • @Mike

    Maybe if you could post a link to what LKQ supposedly said, it would help in the argument?

    I tried to search for it high and low and still could not locate it using Google, Baidi, Bing, Yandex and Yahoo.

    What was the Search Engine that you used?

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    What Are You:
    @Singaporeans Are Free Riders
    U called me a fucking Singaporeans, just curious what type of Singaporeans are you ?

    Are you a Mixed Blood, Gragoes, Chap Cheng or European with Black Backside ? Or a race without any heritage or background. A NOWHERE MAN.

    Anyway you cannot be in one of the the majority races. That’s why you have this farking attitude. We don’t normally criticised, but in this case you forced us to. KNNBCCB

    Singaporeans R Free Riders: You are a fcuking stupid Singaporeans. Opposition Singaporeans are frogs in a well. They look up the sky from the well and excitingly tells everyone that the whole world is just the size of the well.

    Can you tell me is this girl same skin, hair and eyes as you ?
    【多多其木格】43 蒙古美女搬新家,剛宰的新鮮羊肉拿來做燒烤!配上一瓶大烏蘇太上頭
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4ubgo8R3Pk

    Oppositions are as stupid as the Hong Kees who are easily manipulated by CIA.
    Fcuking stupid Opposition Singaporeans

    GE2024.PAP.Guarantee.Win.HuatAgain

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  • mike:

    Dear @ TRE Techie

    Search instruction:

    1. Go to Baidu.com

    2. Type “李克强6亿人” press enter

    Don’t be lazy. Unless your engine is blocked, then i cannot help.

    There are fxxking plenty search results even available in google too. Again if your search engine or server is special, that tells the story. If you cannot use google, … i can only laugh but not impolite to say: it’s just so telling.

    Even xinhua & sina was trying to explain & interpret its way out on LKQ’s meaning.

    Don’t ask me to work on someone else’s situation deficiencies. 我嫁女儿不包接生 :DDD

    Somemore, i guess you may not heard about that at least 3 provinces having tertiary school (3rd class Uni) students on protests. The military vehicles were activated and there were injuries and on high alert. This is the China under CCP rule. Fake news? : DDD

    Or i search from a free country? I never thought i did. :))

    TRE Techie:
    @Mike

    Maybe if you could post a link to what LKQ supposedly said, it would help in the argument?

    I tried to search for it high and low and still could not locate it using Google, Baidi, Bing, Yandex and Yahoo.

    What was the Search Engine that you used?

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  • @M I K E:

    Mike cannot find any link to support his “fact”. He can only insult people who doubt him.

    mike: Ok ok, go deny. Can’t stop you denying. Same kind SGrean who complain every year but still vote the same in. What more can i say.

    TRE Techie:
    @Mike

    Maybe if you could post a link to what LKQ supposedly said, it would help in the argument?

    I tried to search for it high and low and still could not locate it using Google, Baidi, Bing, Yandex and Yahoo.

    What was the Search Engine that you used?

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  • @Mike

    Technically, LKQ did say that (during the C19 pandemic) and was widely quoted by various papers in China. His exact words were:

    5月28日,李克强总理在记者会上说:“中国是一个人口众多的发展中国家,我们人均年收入是3万元人民币,但是有6亿人每个月的收入也就1000元,1000元在一个中等城市可能租房都困难,现在又碰到疫情,疫情过后民生为要。就业是最大的民生。”

    My understanding is that he is saying “有6亿人每个月的收入也就1000元” and because of the pandemic, life would be more difficult for them, therefore the authorities are going to focus on more job opportunities for this group of people (疫情过后民生为要。就业是最大的民生).

    However, his intended meaning is best explained in this officials article from the Population Department.

    Readers can draw their own conclusion from there:

    http://news.youth.cn/gn/202006/t20200615_12369767.htm

    P/S: I do read and am aware of what he said, merely pulling your leg. lol

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  • @M I K E:

    Thank you for the info.

    Mike claims that this means 600 million workers earned on average below rmb1000 a month. He even gives a long analysis that 70% of China population working, and so on. You start with a wrong understanding of the number, and the analysis is all wrong.

    LKQ was talking about average disposable income including people who are not working, including babies. A short example: if a family of 10 has only one income source of $10,000 a month, their average disposable income is $1000 a month.

    See this link for a clear step by step explanation.
    https://youtu.be/SvsnI9AYtkw?t=368
    中国6亿人收入不到1000元?会骗人的数字(四)平均工资和人均可支配收入

    Mike mixes up 平均工资和人均可支配收入.

    For comparison, in Singapore, a guy earning $1000 a month is supposed to be able to afford a HDB flat and support a family. With 4 members in the family, the disposable income is only $250 a month (not counting tax or other sources of income).

    TRE Techie: @Mike

    Technically, LKQ did say that (during the C19 pandemic) and was widely quoted by various papers in China. His exact words were:

    5月28日,李克强总理在记者会上说:“中国是一个人口众多的发展中国家,我们人均年收入是3万元人民币,但是有6亿人每个月的收入也就1000元,1000元在一个中等城市可能租房都困难,现在又碰到疫情,疫情过后民生为要。就业是最大的民生。”

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  • Ah… “Disposable Income”, take away a single word, and the intended meaning changes. That’s the beauty of languages, it is subject to interpretation and entirely up to the person intending to quote it to word and understand it in the way that suits his intended beeds. More so scarry when it is taken out of context.

    This is why I make it a habit to read an entire article before arriving at any conclusion.

    For example:

    If I said’ “It is better to die from Covid-19 than to prolong my suffering if I cannot be cured fully and may end up retarded or incapacitated.”

    Someone with ill-intent or ill-understanding may want to take it out of context and accuse me of cursing those with Covid-19 to “better to die from Covid-19″, dio bo?

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  • mike:

    Dear @ TRE Techie

    Thank you, for doing your homework on LKQ statement.
    About the link which CCP tried to explain LKQ message….

    TRE Techie:
    Readers can draw their own conclusion from there:

    http://news.youth.cn/gn/202006/t20200615_12369767.htm

    Restricted Link Response:
    The connection was reset

    The network link was interrupted while negotiating a connection. Please try again.

    The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try again in a few moments.

    The link provided are mainly for in house consumption. Since you are able to access, and also able to post pictures, you may want to put a screen shoot there for my curiousity of how CCP ‘youth wing’ explained its way out.

    I am not unfamiliar with all the creative methods CCP trying to wiggles with words. However, i must say that i do not really wish for you to post any sort of screenshot here if certain thing were meant for within wall consumption.

    The RISK is at your end which no one will know if it spins towards undesirable endings. Like i said, be healthy, be happy enjoying your life.

    Now, now, now, attention back to my favourite 50c of Commie Covid Party (共新冠党):

    A message by LKQ telling you a fact that 600 million earning below RMB1000 a month. Is a fact that more than 50% (in fact near 70%) of population earns below whatever prescribed MIN WAGES.

    That will Par-Par your face on the wonderful BS about CCP Min Wage. Anyone from nations which have Min Wage might know how it works at the low end level.

    理想很丰满,现实很骨感。 i don’t deny that a min wage policy help set a tone to what the minimum reasonable earnings should be for keeping lower end income of the population above the drowning line.

    Yet, the fact is a min wage suits a blooming economy (which worker can jump boat anytime if they did not get the min or higher, this thus help closing a wealth gap during a growing economy) and it is useless in a declining economy.

    50c, you can wiggle the message as wish and say anything about the pandemic, confusing the timeline. The data revealed by LKQ was 2019 or before, not a 2020 data while pandamic ‘just officially started’.

    Oh, btw, i don’t really want to talk about SG policies because SG IS at a critical cross-junction where she needs to be evolved or decline and disappear. Unfortunately, SG is persistently pursuing a yesteryear failed policies. Well, if this carries on, the end is predictable.

    We see a cheaper large economy comes and goes. Last few decades was China. And in the last decade, moving in India direction and other countries caught the spills, such as Vietnam.

    But what’s happening in Japan, S-Korea and even Taiwan recently?

    I always believe that if your economy produces nothing that the world want, be prepared to turn invisible.

    Tech: I am not denying or confirming his intended meaning, merely providing a link for “Readers can draw their own conclusion from there”. As for snapshot, its a very loooooong statement, so not appropriate. You might want to check your browser settings or try a different browser for your connection issues.

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  • Bad Boy:

    When did Li use the words 人均可支配收入.

    ” 我们人均年收入是3万元人民币,但是有6亿人每个月的收入也就1000元,”

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NrDuJsAByjU

    In a polite way can say he misquoted or use wrong terms ? In a ugly way as what i say talk cock tell lies. In front of a conference with international reporters and camera crews.

    Subsequently all the following prc newspapers then make corrections for him.

    會騙人的數字 ? More like

    會騙人的言辭.

    Tech: In PAP terminology, it would have been “taken out of context”, “misquoted” and worst case “its an honest mistake”. Let us move on? lol

    Anyway, if I were to read the statement, I would take it to mean he has actually wanted to sa:

    我们人均年收入是3万元人民币,但是有6亿人每个月的(均年)收入也就1000元.

    The difference between “average” and “fixed” is worlds apart, no?

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  • mike:

    Dear @ TRE Techie

    I tried diff browser and phone/laptop, but not accessible. This is not surprising as there are quite a number CN websites not accessible outside the wall probably to prevent it from overloading attacks.

    But don’t worry, i am just curious how the CCP youth is wiggling the message.
    Thank you anyway.

    Quote:

    Tech: I am not denying or confirming his intended meaning, merely providing a link for “Readers can draw their own conclusion from there”. As for snapshot, its a very loooooong statement, so not appropriate. You might want to check your browser settings or try a different browser for your connection issues.

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  • @M I K E:

    It was LKQ’s interview response. I believe people have the habit to shorten a term, especially when the full term is used in the previous sentence, as Tech suggested.

    My previous comment suggested this video for a step by step explanation.
    https://youtu.be/SvsnI9AYtkw?t=368
    中国6亿人收入不到1000元?会骗人的数字(四)平均工资和人均可支配收入

    In addition, there is a similar explanation here:
    https://bit.ly/3iz4KN7
    Title: 李克強提中國6億人月入僅1000元 專家受官媒訪問強調是平均

    “記者追問,如何看待根據您掌握信息,這6億人大體是什麼構成的提問,李實回答說,“從構成情況看,這6億人不僅包括在就業、有收入的人口,也包括無就業、無收入的人口,如老人、兒童、學生等被贍養人口。”他補充道,“這就證明,這6億人中會有一部分居民月收入要比1000元高一些甚至高出相當幅度,也會有一部分人月收入要比1000元低一些甚至低出相當幅度。在利用這一數據時,認清這一群體的人口構成對正確認識數據反映的現象十分重要。”

    記者進一步問道,“有人認為平均工資也不是這個數,這裡的月收入就是月工資嗎?”對此,李實回答稱,“這裡有兩層意思需要說明。第一層是工資是從業人員即勞動者的報酬,而收入是按家庭人口計算的居民收入,家庭人口一般多於從業人員,還包括無報酬的人口,所以家庭人均收入一般低於平均工資。而且這部分人群的平均月收入是低收入和偏低收入人口的平均收入,比所有從業人員的平均工資要低一些,甚至比其中部分人員的最低工資還要低。”

    李實說,“第二層是收入包括但不等於工資收入,月收入、年收入指的是居民可支配收入,是針對人口而言的,其中既包括勞動者的工資收入,也包括家庭經營凈收入如出售農產品凈收入,家庭財產凈收入如利息,家庭轉移凈收入如低保金等;既包括家庭現金收入,也包括家庭實物收入如農民的自產自用農產品折算收入,是家庭各渠道收入的總和。”他並提出,“這就說明,在觀察居民收入時,需要把居民家庭各項收入都包括進來,不能僅僅理解為工資收入,才能對居民收入狀況有更全面的把握。”

    If Mike is insistent that the rmb1000 is earnings/wages of workers, that his choice. Wrong choice. If you want to say that LKQ did not give a properly defined explanation, you are probably right. But other people with the full set of data have followed up with the full explanation. It is very bizarre to insist that your wrong interpretation is the real truth.

    Bad Boy:
    When did Li use the words 人均可支配收入.

    ” 我们人均年收入是3万元人民币,但是有6亿人每个月的收入也就1000元,”

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NrDuJsAByjU

    In a polite way can say he misquoted or use wrong terms ? In a ugly way as what i say talk cock tell lies. In front of a conference with international reporters and camera crews.

    Subsequently all the following prc newspapers then make corrections for him.

    會騙人的數字 ? More like

    會騙人的言辭.

    Tech: In PAP terminology, it would have been “taken out of context”, “misquoted” and worst case “its an honest mistake”. Let us move on? lol

    Anyway, if I were to read the statement, I would take it to mean he has actually wanted to sa:

    我们人均年收入是3万元人民币,但是有6亿人每个月的(均年)收入也就1000元.

    The difference between “average” and “fixed” is worlds apart, no?

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  • Bad Boy:

    Mathematician Li Yong Le is not the problem. The explanation came afterwards maybe 24 hours later or a few days later.

    Is how Li Ke Qiang present it.
    人均年收入, 每个月的收入, 人均可支配收入 The meaning differs much.
    When he mentioned it i was watching it live on CNA as it was broadcast. Everybody watching and listening will just accept it and be misled. Even the prcs themselves also stunned. Many also raises questions Else there’s no need for the youtube video nor xinhua news or whatever.
    The premiere has spoken, who will bother to follow up the correction news report the next day or subsequently. Unless he came forward apologizing for the minor errors in the fine details.

    And suddenly we are being blamed for cannot understand chinese and cannot english. A good example of 賴屎賴尿.

    I said Mr Li please be zhun. But anyway he will be stepping down in due time.

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  • mike:

    Dear @ 50c of Commie Covid Party

    What makes you think i would bother with all the wigglings? :DDD
    First you say there isn’t, its fake,
    then you asked to proof where it was,
    now you say it was misquoted,
    when all things failed, you say its wrong interpretation. :DD
    even blamed LKQ did not explained well

    Its damn funny lah!

    The more you tried to explain, the more it reveals. Now you telling me that the average base includes those old, young, baby, house wives, beggars, farmers (who made money for 3 months in a year), disabled, prisoners, fisherman, covid unemployed (err… before covid? Lol), sailors, forgot to receive salary, and perhaps even dead people?

    Anything can explain its way out. I told you i had been swimming with numbers for more than 15 years and had seen all sorts of patterns, tricks with creative statistics, creative reporting, figure massaging etc but still cannot beat the patterns China able to create! :DDD 数字游戏只有我想不到,没有中共国做不到!

    So, let’s see what else you 50c will help unearthing.

    Want to talk about the student protests in CN cities on 4th Of June 2021?
    :D

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  • @M I K E:

    All the correct explanations are online for a long time. Then you come up with your own twisted “fact”. Of course LKQ did not say that. It’s not just misquoted, you twist it to your own meaning.

    No way that could be interpreted as salary, the way you did and still do. After all the online explanations are shown to you, you still insist that what you have misinterpreted is the true state of affairs. 600 million workers earn an average salary of rmb1000? It is complete rubbish.

    You insist that false is true. All your years of dark data experience has infected you badly.

    mike:
    Dear @ 50c of Commie Covid Party

    What makes you think i would bother with all the wigglings? :DDD
    First you say there isn’t, its fake,
    then you asked to proof where it was,
    now you say it was misquoted,
    when all things failed, you say its wrong interpretation. :DD
    even blamed LKQ did not explained well

    Its damn funny lah!

    The more you tried to explain, the more it reveals. Now you telling me that the average base includes those old, young, baby, house wives, beggars, farmers (who made money for 3 months in a year), disabled, prisoners, fisherman, covid unemployed (err… before covid? Lol), sailors, forgot to receive salary, and perhaps even dead people?

    Anything can explain its way out. I told you i had been swimming with numbers for more than 15 years and had seen all sorts of patterns, tricks with creative statistics, creative reporting, figure massaging etc but still cannot beat the patterns China able to create! :DDD 数字游戏只有我想不到,没有中共国做不到!

    So, let’s see what else you 50c will help unearthing.

    Want to talk about the student protests in CN cities on 4th Of June 2021?
    :D

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  • @M I K E:

    Let me summarize what has happened.

    One day.

    Mr Tan: I have a wife and a young girl.
    Tan’s friend: What Mr Tan means is that he has a wife and a young daughter.

    One year later.

    Mike: Mr Tan says he has two wives.
    Me: Mr Tan did not say such a thing. You’re faking it.

    Mike: See that, Mr Tan said “I have a wife and a young girl.”
    Me: You misinterpreted what he said. He could have made it clearer. His friend clarified that already, one year ago.

    Mike: You damn funny lah. Mr Tan has two wives. Don’t try to wiggle out of this.

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  • mike:

    Dear @ 50c of Commie Covid Party

    Continue wiggles. :DD
    Now insulting wife and girls. Your example beli CCP leh.

    Why need to explain when what first hand LKQ said was pure simple statistic data. And you obviously do not know how data collection works in statistics for specific purpose.

    The fact is: the truth is hard to swallow and obviously it par-par the face of XJP. THUS it needs further wiggling. :DD

    The more you wiggles, the more shameful it is.

    What to talk about student protests recently in several CN cities? :DD

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  • @M I K E:

    You yourself cannot bear to see your own nonsense when it is clearly exposed. Throw some smoke, fire into the air and retreat.

    You like 6/4 so much, send your great post to Tremeritus lah. Surely you will get comments.

    mike:
    Dear @ 50c of Commie Covid Party

    Continue wiggles. :DD
    Now insulting wife and girls. Your example beli CCP leh.

    Why need to explain when what first hand LKQ said was pure simple statistic data. And you obviously do not know how data collection works in statistics for specific purpose.

    The fact is: the truth is hard to swallow and obviously it par-par the face of XJP. THUS it needs further wiggling. :DD

    The more you wiggles, the more shameful it is.

    What to talk about student protests recently in several CN cities? :DD

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  • mike:

    Dear @ 50c of Commie Covid Party

    I let you continue wiggle. 600million CN people earning less than $1,000 is just so revealing in a country with Min Wage. :DD

    Lol, you also know the several student protests during 4th June this year in China har. Not bad. Thought need your master to tell you leh.

    You got no comment? This shows that the younger generations are well aware of the existence of 4th June Massacre dispite CCP fake history education and great internet wall restrictions. Just a matter of time whether CCP will stroke the wrong bar and activate the hidden lava. Agree boh?

    Use armored vehicles for the students was a good traditional practice by CCP. Make them disappeared and then suicided.

    @M I K E:
    You like 6/4 so much, send your great post to Tremeritus lah. Surely you will get comments.

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