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Credibility comes from full disclosure of data

Two weeks have passed since we heard the Ministerial Statements on Foreign Manpower and Free Trade Agreements at the parliamentary sitting on 6 July 2021. I am greatly encouraged by the enormous and sustained interest that Singaporeans have shown in the issues raised by the Ministerial Statements.

Subsequent to the parliamentary sitting, Minister for Manpower Dr Tan See Leng revealed that the Ministry of Manpower and tripartite partners are reviewing the Tripartite Guidelines on Fair Employment Practices in order to strengthen measures to tackle workplace discrimination, and he said “it will not be long” before they come back with a recommendation.

A few days later, during a lecture at the Institute of Policy Studies, Monetary Authority of Singapore managing director Ravi Menon recommended tightening the qualifying salaries for Employment Pass and S Pass foreign PMETs as well as targeting individuals in firms found to be guilty of discriminatory hiring in favour of foreigners.

It is motivating to feel the winds of change and heartening to see the effect of PSP raising the right questions in parliament. However, simply making some tweaks and adjustments to current policies is not enough. They do not address fundamental problems that stemmed from the lack of foresight in striking a balance in the job market from the very beginning.

PSP’s aim is to seek a thorough review of the impact of the Foreign Talent policy and the huge inflow of foreign PMETs into our labour market over the past twenty years. We wish to see a clear plan of action from the government that can bring about tangible improvements to address the sufferings of affected Singaporeans.

To accomplish this we need more data from the Government. At the 6 July parliamentary sitting, PSP filed 7 questions requesting for hundreds of data points across different nationalities and work pass categories over the last twenty years. In response, the Government provided two Ministerial Statements which revealed only a few scattered points of data.

Besides the lack of data, we also found the presentation of data to be problematic. E.g. data points were presented in convoluted and confusing ways, we requested for data on PMETs but the data given only covered PMEs, and so on.

Hence, at the upcoming parliamentary sitting on 26 July, we will be raising another 8 parliamentary questions to ask for fuller data sets as well as to seek clarifications on the few data points disclosed by the Ministers.

For example, we will be requesting for time series data from 2005-2020 involving professionals, managers and executives (PMEs). Health Minister Ong Ye Kung only provided two single data points from that time period, which is that the total number of PME jobs created for residents (Singaporeans and PRs) and foreigners were 380,000 and 112,000 respectively.

We will also be asking for more details about the 97,000 jobs that the Minister said had been created for residents by the 660 Singapore companies that have invested in India since 2005.

Minister Tan See Leng mentioned that the government does not publish detailed statistics on our foreign workforce, especially by nationality, for “foreign policy reasons”. While this is understandable to some degree, the reason as given is vague. If there are no specific concerns, I would urge the Minister to provide whatever data he can in the spirit of, in his own words, allowing for “meaningful engagement” on the issues. We need to examine the data and ascertain the facts before we can reach meaningful conclusions.

In attempting to present a narrative without comprehensive data to support it, the Ministerial Statements simply do not carry the credibility that such statements normally do. Accordingly, there is also little credibility in any mainstream media reports trying to support the same narrative.

With all due respect, the Government must recognise that it is not good enough to make sweeping statements and give reassurances when it provides scant evidence to back up its assertions.

During the debate, Minister Ong Ye Kung also tried to frame certain questions in a binary way to push me to give simple “yes or no” answers. I believe that Singaporeans are sophisticated enough to understand that we can have nuanced positions on complex issues. For instance, I have repeatedly said in parliament that PSP fully supports FTAs in general. But how beneficial FTAs are depend on their specific terms in relation to our domestic conditions. While FTAs do not take away our sovereign right to regulate immigration, some may still constrain our latitude to formulate and implement our immigration policies.

We also urge Singaporeans not to get distracted by allegations made against the PSP. We have never said that CECA gives “unfettered access” to our labour markets and such constant accusations are regrettable. They shift the focus away from the real and pressing issues that genuinely concern Singaporeans.

The PSP will continue to ask the right questions in the run-up to and during the #PSPJobsDebate to enable us to get a fuller picture of the situation of displaced Singaporeans.

The #PSPJobsDebate is focused on the jobs and livelihoods of Singaporeans. Stay tuned. Not forgetting, I would like to wish Selamat Hari Raya Aidiladha to all Muslims. May today bring blessings and joy to you and family.

 

* Facebook post by Leong Mun Wai (PSP).

 

 

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READER COMMENTS BELOW

26 Responses to “Credibility comes from full disclosure of data”

  • xoxo:

    I am grouped under LOCALS.
    Am i SINGAPORE CITIZEN or ALIEN?
    All i know i hold PINK IC ,different from PRs.

    Same for CECA-FTs or China FTs.
    They are different.
    We are not numbered in the Billion,not hundreds of million,not even Tens of million; we can be easily segregated n accounted for by REAL STARISTICS.

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  • NotMyProblem:

    If full disclosure, what is the use of POFMA??

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  • MarBowling:

    PENDING the upcoming parliamentary sitting on 26 Jul 2021, in the mean time, could Mr Leong REQUEST our World Class Minister CCS(Cotton Comes from Sh*t)who was the Ex-MTI Minister and APPROPRIATE LEEder to engage with the DEBATE to pair together with Minister Tan Seng Leng, AND NOT Ong Toh who is only the Minister of Health! Given his Great Reputation and the potential to be the next seatwarmer cum 4th PeeM, We, especially the 38.76% want to WITNESS his FORTE based on his recents actions and remarks:
    1. NO HOLDS BARRED,
    2. SHOOT FIRST TALK LATER,
    3. WHAT’S THE POINT BEHIND THE QUESTION?
    4. Our job as LEEders is NOT to provide the ANSWERS but to BRING OUT the ANSWERS from EVERYBODY, that is perhaps ALREADY IN THEIR MINDS.
    5. Mai SIA SUAY.

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  • Soccerbetting2:

    Reported on the TOC :Quote-”As of Tuesday noon (20 July), the Ministry of Health (MOH) has preliminarily confirmed an additional 195 cases of COVID-19 infection in Singapore.

    This brings the total number of infection cases to 63,440.

    There are 182 new cases of locally transmitted COVID-19 infection, of which 135 are linked to the Jurong Fishery Port cluster and 12 belong to the KTV cluster.

    Among the new cases announced, 156 are linked to previous infections, with 81 already placed on quarantine and 75 detected through surveillance testing…

    The remaining 26 infections are not unlinked to previous cases.

    There were also 13 imported infections, who were placed on stay-home notice or isolated upon arrival. Six cases were detected upon arrival in Singapore, while seven developed the illness during the stay-home notice or isolation period.

    The Ministry will share further updates in its press release tonight.

    Response : The government failed to provide full disclosure of career or age of corona virus victim will be another potential big mistake in the future ! Wait till one day and one evil b**** backside Indian or Malay pre-school woman teacher got covid-19 and spread all over the pre-school and all the children got it ! So disclosing the age and career of covid-19 is important for early preparation of parents to take immediate action!Don’t keep people in the dark !See now spread until so many ! Pui!

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  • Enlighten the Fudge King?:

    “Enlightenment is man’s release from his self-incurred tutelage. Tutelage is man’s inability to make use of his understanding without direction from Another. This tutelage is Self-incurred when its cause lies not in lack of reason but in lack of resolution and courage to use it without direction from Another.

    “Sapere aude! Have the courage to use your own reason!”- that is the motto of enlightenment.

    Immanuel Kant, “An Answer to the Question: What Is Enlightenment?”

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  • Tremendous:

    When the agreement came, the idiotic chiefs signed it half blind. A little knowledge is dangerous.

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  • opposition dude:

    PAP loves saying they will do this and that but end up doing very little. After losing another GRC last year they only managed to come out with a worse than useless wayang of once again raising the minimum salary of S and E pass holders ha ha ha. They have raised the salaries before a couple of times which resulted in the opposite effect of MORE aliens being let in.

    In short, PAP doesn’t want to limit the number of people coming in so whatever silly measures they announce aren’t going to be done. If they were sincere they would have reduced the number of aliens by now but we see the population keeps going higher year after year.

    Just continue kicking them out with every election lah, it’s easier. 5 from Aljunied and 4 from Sengkang have already been kicked so let’s add in East and West Coast GRCs and even Marine Parade too in the next round.

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  • Hammer. Hammer.:

    Good MPs must keep on hammering on this point: If the pappy government keeps data from the public, there must be something very bad about the data.

    Remember:
    1. You would not get the data you want from this pappy gov.
    2. Hammer into the voters’ head what this means. No data means bad things kept secret from voters.

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  • Why PAP Hides Data ?:

    I was a Regional Sales Manager in a Multi National IT company and was retrenched when I was 50 years old and replaced by a cheaper younger FT.

    Ever since, I have difficulty to get another job because of my age. I had no choice but to drive for Grab top earn a living.

    Why must the PAP hides data instead of revealing them ? If they do not want to reveal the data, then we can be assured that they are screwing Singaporeans left, right and center.

    If that’s the case, let us all vote the PAP Out in the next GE. Don’t forget you may be the next one to be retrenched.

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  • Billy ma:

    It’s clear that PAP is forcing the truth about this issue.

    The backlash will be quite different from other issues that had plagued Singaporeans.

    This problem affects many sole breadwinners.
    That also means it affects every member of the families.
    Unlike the CPF issue that only hits the elderly in families, this ceca matter is emotionally & financially affects family members.

    This is why the outcome of the next polling will be different & a open mouth shock to PAP.

    Jaws will dropped & so PAP ministers will fall off like flies.
    Bring out the dustbins.

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  • Pinky is useless anyway:

    They always play racist card when you question on FT, population and jobs.

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  • A TR Emeritus Exclusive:

    TR Emeritus managed to get an exclusive interview with the COVID-19 virus. Below are excerpts from the interview.

    TRE Reporter: Thank you for agreeing to this interview. Why did you choose TR Emeritus instead of Straits Times for this interview.

    Virus: We spoke to Straits Times first but we decided not to proceed because it only wanted us to praise PAP and Government for the great job they are doing in tackling the pandemic. We do not lie so we decided against the interview.

    TR Reporter: PM LHL said the country has to go back to Phase 2 because COVID-19 is a “formidable foe”. Any comments.

    Virus:. How can we be “formidable” when we are so small, smaller than a bacteria. We don’t even have a brain. Our “foe”, the Multi-agency Task Force, is composed of scholars who are paid millions each year (the highest on the planet) supported by the rest of Cabinet also million $ scholars. They are the best of the best. MTF was already beating us. We did nothing new to fight back. Saying we are “formidable” is just to cover up their stupidity and incompetence. This gave us another chance to put Singapore back to Phase 2. We appreciated very much the 2nd chance given to us by MTF. We have no money to pay them. We know MTF members and colleagues in Cabinet like money very much. We will do this. We will try to have a new COVID variant just for them. They can call it “PAPVAR”. We will try to make a lot more deadly than the delta variant maybe approaching SARS so everybody will be afraid PAPVAR just like many Singaporeans are afraid of PAP. LKY and PAP are a firm believers and practicioners of fear.

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  • Credibility 1/10:

    That’s my scoring.

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  • Pap FAIL MAJOR RESPONSIBILITIE:

    PAP would lose great credulity if PAP GAGMT REFUSE TO PROVIDE FULL DATAS, INFORMATIONS,AND LOSE INTREGRITY AND CANNOT CLAIM TRANSPARENCY IN POLICIES IF IT KEEP RFEFUSING TO GIVE PUBLIC INFPORMATION.
    PSE REMEMBER IT IS PEOPLE WHO GIVE U THE POWER,THEY CAN REMOVE U FROM POWER.
    DONT TAKE PEOPLE FOR GRANTED AND THAT PEOPLE ARE IDIOTS.
    NO MORE CAN HIDE UNDER DUBIOUS CLAIM OF SENSITIVE INFORMATION.
    IF U ARE EARNING HUGE SALARY OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS PER YR AND DEPRIVE YOUR OWN CITIZEN OF JOBS AND GIVE JOBS TO FOREIGNERS, THEN U DONT DESERVE TO BE GAGMT.
    U ARE ELECTED TO SERVE THE PEOPLE ,AND HELP ITS OWN CITIZENS….IF NOT U FAIL MISERABLY IN YOUR FIDUCIARY DUTIES TO SINGAPOREANS.
    FOR THOSE INTERNET BRIGADE OF PAP, DONT FORGET YOUR CHILDREN,GRANDCHILDREN FUTURE ARE AT STAKE AS JOBS ARE GIVEN TO FOREIGNERS.
    THINK!!!

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  • Chacha. Mambo:

    Just publish the ceca agreement.

    We can read. We got go to school n scored A1 for Cambridge English!

    Just publish the agreement………….we can let you know where n how you got shirtcganged!

    By the way, ,did many many Sinkies go to ceca India in droves to take up jobs?

    Did they also bring their hawkers to India………?Like Chennai Oark in Changi?

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  • Asd:

    I think educated people will not hide data and want debate without data which is akin to wayang and getting paid while not resolving any issue in short it’s called free rider

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  • Tremendous:

    The manpower chief must have asked all the other chiefs, ‘can release data or not’. Then the chiefs said “cannot, once you release, all our wayang rice bowls will be gone”.
    Then manpower chief diam diam so that all chiefs in his camp can continue getting sky high salaries.

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  • FYI:

    NotMyProblem:
    If full disclosure, what is the use of POFMA??

    Virus problem = Vaccine solution = Fake news. AI learn how to know what is Fake and solve with artificial intelligence. Fake can never be real and People who use fake Data will never become Intelligence but Terrorists.

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  • Soccerbetting2:

    According to tik tok website,one St Jospxh Instituition male student fall from a building height today,still conscious when send to hospital .Better have full disclosure and not cover-up ! Pui!

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  • Dream on, Mun Wai:

    It’s a shame a veteran political opposition still harping on teaching the FGpapists about rat hole operation. which is like humkachan crisis, has been their winning tool on lao li’s daft SIN supporters. One would have thought a SIN political opposition would have learnt that shits r shits, scums r scums n can be nothing else. Even you coat them in liquid gold, they r still shits n scums. It is excusable that foreignerss r naive like the Americans to swallow wholesales any honey coated shits, sometimes even uncoated any their counterparts spread out for their contact n info r second third hands thru successive corrupt channels but for local who r in direct contact n in sight every or the last 5 decades n sbtill dream on, it is pathetic n unbecoming for them to continue talking the same scumy linguo!

    So zlau Leong, wake up man b4 you have the credibility to wake up SIN dafts. No wonder little Goh can humiliate Bok, his old scout mate for being an ingrate going astray n opposition lost every election except for WP which is showing the crack too with Pritan fed with gorishits!

    Wake ip man. Do not be like the FGPapic C19 MTF expecting Singaporeans’ cooperation ehile holding sticks behind their farthold n while their ministries compliant shitty officers smoking away bohui the nincompoops farting away, thinking they r fx king good n convincing to the idiot sinkies. Crisis or waspy shits, many old foggies r swearing away n SUCCUMBED to their young to get lke remnant fxxk off the island like yang’s harvard sonny. TWP et al will be howling wasy while Francis, David N Jayarat r caggling up looking down the hot oil gigantic pot below n sing when will they ever learn?

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  • leeconyou:

    u think pappies keen? they can even remove estate tax before harry’s death so that iras will not look at how much the 3 children inherited!

    imagine lee&lee doing all the conveying for hdb and its buyer since 1970s
    1m hdb flats built and we dun take in resale, buyer and hdb pays $1000 to lee&lee for conveying so its a easy minimum of S$1,000,000,000 inheritance to the longlingyang…

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  • Fabricated AI Fake data:

    Liars write fake affidavit. Fake Scientist enter fabricated data. Cheat businessman write P&L statements. Dark Banks fabricated fake money. Big Pharma control fake data. Political DS control fake election results. Military create fake UFO and documents to foil whistleblowers. Fake news media write gossips.
    AI interpret fake data produce logical garbage nonsense. All using fake money created out of thin air. Now charity richer than banks and Donors. Casino is run by honest people. Man are Women. Women are strong. Children are all guilty of innocent. Old demon mistakes should be forgiven. Inversion of truth are simply a test of Chaos to achieve Order. Scientist proof its theories by inversion. When chaos is created, truth can be fabricated to achieve chaos and order. When new strange chaos and order can never created, mysteries is form. Randomness baffled Scientists and random correctness is the new Science. Statistics replace truth and big data and AI to become new Fake God. Those who create and run AI logics by randoms, you create random results and give credit to AI god. Those nearest to AI god Google become the chosen son of God to tell you the truth. All you imaginations and wild conclusions is verified by AI. Ultron is real if you have infinity budget and superstars Einstein replacement to create infinity money to make infinity predictions like Strange.

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  • Observer:

    Am sure America agrees that it is not Singapore’s duty to provide livelihoods to India PMETs.

    America wants to investigate why India and Iran used swastika to symbolize revolving sun. Can America depend on India for actions against Iran?

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  • normal peasants identify:

    //All i know i hold PINK IC ,different from PRs.//

    imagine lar. if it is legal to take 2, 3, 4, 5 6 wives or husbands ?? just by the slap of legal status, every x no. of wives & husbands that one has becomes part of the family lor, easy as that (but with the many inherent conflicts & family power play lor ??) ???

    as for the white monkey idiots and gang, it is alright lar (all same same sinkies leh – whether true-blue or newly converted ones) because the white monkey gang are well compensated to “ignore or overlook” the usual “blunts” which may be faced by the normal average peasants ??? perhaps, normal peasants identify ‘IDENTITY’ different from the white monkey gang ???

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  • Tax money paid safe distancing:

    Why are safe distancing red shirt people strolling in malls paid $4k?

    We need full disclosure who are these , their backgrounds, what they were working as before jobless and who their parents are.

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  • Arbiter of Truth:

    What if ah kong says what someome says is not the truth and what he says is the truth because he is the Arbiter of Truth who need not prove what he claims because what he says is to be regarded as the word of God?

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