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Punish the un-vaccinated?

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I congratulate Salma Khalik for her perceptive and well-reasoned article. I hope the three co-chairmen of the multi- ministry task force will consider her suggestions with an open mind. Inspired by her commentary, I wish to make the following comments.

First, some of the people who own and operate the KTV lounges have violated the law and our trust. They should be punished. I am not sure whether it is right to punish all KTV lounges. Collective punishment is not a good thing. Someone called Andy Wong has claimed in an article in Nikkei Asia on 23 July that our KTV lounges are controlled by organised crime and are illegal brothels. I think MHA should respond to these serious accusations.

Second, for our survival and prosperity, we must keep our seaports and airports open. We should have good controls to prevent the entry of anyone who is infected with the virus. Was there a slip up at the Jurong Fishery Port which enabled one or more infected persons to enter that port. If this is the case, the problem should be fixed at that port.

Third, we should reward those who have been vaccinated and penalise those who have not been vaccinated without a valid reason. I there propose that we bar entry by unvaccinated persons to our markets, supermarkets, Hawker centres, restaurants, bars, concerts, weddings, sports events and places of religious worship. Fully vaccinated persons should be allowed entry to all such places.

Fourth, I think we should once again allow in- house dining for fully vaccinated persons of groups of eight persons. Our F and B sector have suffered enough and we should help them now before it is too late for some of them. To the best of my knowledge no one has caught the virus in any of our restaurants.

 

* Facebook post by Prof Tommy Koh.

 

 

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52 Responses to “Punish the un-vaccinated?”

  • Why Can't We Be Decisive ?:

    Why bar entry for those who are not vaccinated ? This shows that our 4G government is not decisive in making decision.

    Why don’t just pass a law that says those who are not vaccinated by certain date will be put in jail ? Lose more votes at the GE, so what ?

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  • House of laughing hyenas:

    No one dares go agaibst China one, not when you have nothing thats not imported from china.

    Crippled by the dependence.

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  • MarBowling:

    He has been a Chicken most of his LIFE. Choosing to VOICE OUT only when the East Coast is CLEAR as the Blue Sky in SinKapore. Now with his this damn RHETORIC, he has also JOINED those PAPigs with BLOODS on their hands, period!

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  • oxygen:

    IDIOTIC HALLUCINATIONS (banning mobility of unvaccinated??) – the unvaccinated might have the strongest natural immunity.

    And those PORTION of infected unvaccinated might take crowded public transport to places in search of food AND SHARE THEIR VIRUS AROUND THE WHOLE TOWN. Might as well (and cheaper too??) line them up against the wall and shoot them!

    The writer does not know what he does not know of the vaccine consequences – IT IS UTTERLY INEFFECTIVE AND LADEN with unknown risks yet to be discovered. Surrounded by a wall of prairie fire, he is spraying gasoline instead of water.

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  • By banning the unvaccinated from access to supermart and wet markers, etc, is Tommy suggesting that Sinkieland shuold starve the unvaccinated to death or give them hell so that they will guai guai go get jab and maybe die or suffer serious side effects in the process?

    Why go through all this wayang of a BS, why not just send them to a remote island let them rot or better still, build a new Changi Detention Camp to segregate them. Or for a snappier solution, just hang all of them? So reminds me of Naxi Germany.

    All this BS coming from the mouth of a top diplomat, how very disappointing I must say.

    BTW, I heard teh joker Lawrence has just announced special privileges for those vaccinated, hosay liao lor. From now onwards, Sinkieland got 1st class and 2nd class peasants liao.

    So the national pledge should be re-written to:

    “Regardless of language, race or religion, vaccination excepted”?

    And the PAPies got the cheek to accuse Sinkies of being racist?

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  • oxygen:

    @ TRE Techie

    JOKER IS PLAYING WITH FIRE with “relaxed” inducement to the vaccinated.

    TRE Techie: BTW, I heard teh joker Lawrence has just announced special privileges for those vaccinated, hosay liao lor. From now onwards, Sinkieland got 1st class and 2nd class peasants liao.

    Over 3/4 of the Jurong Fishery Port/KTV clusters were re-infected cases, SO HA HA HA, they can crowded together in dining in and play play play shiok shiok shiok with infected hostesses meis meis in redlight KTVs and share virus with one another.

    As an added bonus these “Old Uncles” may not drive, they share crowded public transports and virus with the rest of late night fun-seeking roamers who then bring home the virus and share with their own wives and kiddys.

    HAVE FUN!! lots of that – WITH COMPLIMENTS AND BLESSINGS from the bunch of jokers.

    HILARIOUS!

    These gorillas/chimpanzees – not sure which classification better fits them – are GOING TO HAVE A PARTY OF A LIFE-TIME SOON.

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  • Mark of the Beast:

    Third, we should reward those who have been vaccinated and penalise those who have not been vaccinated without a valid reason. I there propose that we bar entry by unvaccinated persons to our markets, supermarkets, Hawker centres, restaurants, bars, concerts, weddings, sports events and places of religious worship. Fully vaccinated persons should be allowed entry to all such places.

    Could this be the “Mark of the Beast” where you no longer could buy or sell without taking it?

    Tech: Since the LEEders like the India Indians so much, soon Sinkieland would have a caste system in place where the vaccinated will be 1 level above the unvaccinated?

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  • Pledge to Be:

    TRE Techie: “Regardless of language, race or religion, vaccination excepted”?

    We are pledging to be, to get there. So the pledge should still be …
    “… Regardless of race, language, religion or vaccination … “

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  • @Oxygen

    From the stats released by the MOH, 3/4 of those currently infected are already vaccinated and therefore it is safe to deduce that they mostly are the carriers responsible for the rest of the infections. So far close to 1000 cases and I have no doubt that there will be more, since the current measures are half-baked and woefully ineffective.

    The reason why I say the vaccinated are carriers is that due to the vaccine, they are unlikely to show any symptoms even if infected, so they are better stealth carriers than those unvaccinated.

    Those unvaccinated are weaker (in theory) and it is easier to detect the C19 in them because once they are infected, the symptoms show up almost immediately.

    So it can be said that the more are vaccinated, the easier it is for the virus to spread.

    It is therefore extremely wrong to point fingers at those unvaccinated because are actually safer to be around with, for the reasons I listed above.

    What do you think?

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  • oxygen:

    @ TRE Techie

    WHAT DO I THINK, mate? Me thinks the quality of decision-makers and high profile wannabe “leaders” in society are found to be EXTREMELY WANTING in the handling of this matter.

    TRE Techie: What do you think?

    It is “pooled interdependency” – both of pandemic spread incomprehension and containment of consequences.

    YOU AND I SHARE THE SAME PERSPECTIVE on this point – the vaccinated are FAR MORE DANGEROUS OF CONCEALED RISKS than the unvaccinated – the unvaccinated, after 18 months, may have been infected many many times – unknown to themselves and undetected of MOH surveillance capture. These unvaccinated may have “contacted” of virus infection, FOUGHT BACK THE VIRUS harm ways and CULTIVATED THEIR OWN NATURAL IMMUNITY. They are no longer a danger to themselves and society at large.

    The vaccinated pool, as you pointed out, got false sense of security. The Jurong Fishing Port and KTV clusters is STAGGERING EVIDENCE of them as a mob of TRUE WALKING PATHOGEN. The fully vaccinated is nearly 50% including children on national average BUT THE JFP/KTV CLUSTER is 75%. Take out the children share of vaccinated, the adult proportion of vaccinated is much smaller – maybe ( I guess) 35%. But the JFP/KTV cluster in contrast is > 75%.

    STAGGERING EVIDENCE that vaccination is FALSE & WICKEDLY DEVIOUS HOPE of infection protection the vaccines promised to supply – both of re-infection unknowning to themselves and spread to all others in close proximity.

    After repeated infection, what damage is done to the organs of vaccinated of health damage and future health costs escalation?

    WHY FORCED THE UNVACCINATED TO UNDERTAKE SUCH STUPIDITY OF UNWARRANTED MISADVENTURE?? There is two risks – immediate complication health care costs and continuiing hidden health damage/costs NO ONE KNOWS WHEN IT IS UNNECESSARY SINCE AN UNKNOWN PROPORTION OF UNVACCINATED MIGHT HAVE NATURAL IMMUNITY from undetected infections already.

    Who is that among the unvaccinated this STUPID after avoiding it for 18 months already?

    The vaccinated in JFP/KTV clusters shows how contagious of them as walking pathogens – endangering their family after fed with false hopes and lies from political cows denying science.

    In any case, 40% or more of population is foreigners – plenty will come in WITH FALSE HEALTH DECLARATION CLEARANCE bribing corrupt health officials to get vaccination certificates.

    One hottess or a few or fish-mongers caused the biggest clusters. How many foreigners coming in everyday to support this FALSE ECONOMY fueled by STUPID POPULATION RECYCLING ECONOMICS do we need every day to add to our risks?

    AND TOURISM too?

    IT IS POOLED INTER-DEPENDENCY of infection spread and over time compound our healthcare costs. Who is helping with money?

    STUPID OR NOT?

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  • oxygen:

    @ TRE Techie

    PARTITIONING VACCINATED FROM UNVACCINATED IS BLIND STUPIDITY beyond infinity.

    It is NOT truncating one by surgical decision, you can solve a issue of “sequential interdependence” (another idea/concept from Professor James D Thomson) i.e. you cut up the link, you simultaneously delete the sequential interdependence (of infection spread of unvaccinated to the vaccinated imagined one-way causation).

    It is intelligence I can find lots in the rubbish bins.

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  • oxygen:

    @ TRE Techie

    ADDING TO MY TWO PRECEDING POSTS ABOVE, the pandemic is mainly “pooled interdependency” and unclear of its (direction) of “sequential interdependency” (either from the unvaccinated to the vaccinated or the other way around presumption).

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  • round round the bush:

    //Third, we should reward those who have been vaccinated and penalise those who have not been vaccinated without a valid reason//

    aiyoh. why not make it mandatory rather than going around the merry bush round round the bush ?? why vaccine only APPROVED FOR EMERGENCY USE (what is the meaning leh ??) ??? is there a conflict between medical protocol on “FULL” vaccine approval and the political urgency of wanting it to be used on “MOST” (if not “EVERYONE” leh ???) ??

    white idiots are slowly tightening the screws hor effectively pressuring for vaccination on ALL (except those who cannot have it on medical ground) while still pretentiously saying that it is voluntary hor ???

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  • Soccerbetting2:

    Stated above :Quote-”Third, we should reward those who have been vaccinated and penalise those who have not been vaccinated without a valid reason. I there propose that we bar entry by unvaccinated persons to our markets, supermarkets, Hawker centres, restaurants, bars, concerts, weddings, sports events and places of religious worship. Fully vaccinated persons should be allowed entry to all such places….”Unquote.

    Response :”I there propose that we bar entry by unvaccinated persons to our markets, supermarkets, Hawker centres, restaurants, bars, concerts, weddings, sports events and places of religious worship.”????

    Like that all unvaccinated people where to buy food amd drink to eat,like that will not die pf hunger and thirst meh ? Even vaccinated people can catch corona virus ,so why bar unvaccinated people ?

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  • unvacinated shd not be punishe:

    I totally agreed with TRE Tech that the vaccinated have been exposed to covid virus how else can they get their immunity and may be more dangerous as silent carrier and spreader than the unvacinated who are not tainted in any way.

    I find the comments by someone respected like Tommy Koh despicable, he is a great hypo always making concerted remarks to flash that he is above it when in reality he is part of the propaganda machineery and a selfish sinkie wihout much intellect and self concentred conceit and conscience.

    Despite the paranoid guesses by HC ,she guessed wrongly that seniors are swayed by false news, the basic truths are – many of these seniors do not get out of their house , different shades of dementia and barely able to perform many of the bodily functions of transportation and bored to death with a ” tan see ” attitude eking out a day to day existence with less and less to do with all the government mindless controls from their usual coffeeshop,haunts. They are not the ones who brought in the delta strains,etc.

    They are already fed up and resigned, probably old enough to realise hard truths and data are manipulated not to tell the truth and common sense tells them not to trust all the fibs by the 4G. The crossover to the next spiritual platform is not far and they certainly dont believe they are the cause as they have been staying and hiding in ie too troublesome to even go out.

    Please spare some thoughts and human decency for these unvacinated instead of making them the scrapegoats for the pandemic.

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  • Absurdity:

    It is easy to tell that those from Jurong Fishery and KTV got infected because the masks were off and there wasn’t social distancing. Vaccination does not play a big part in the infection rates of these clusters. If the decision makers don’t know this, they better go. At million dollars salary per person, they are huge liabilities. If the infection is kept super low, how many severe infections will we see?

    The infection rate is a fraction of the population plus imports, and the severe infection rate is a fraction of the infection rate. The monkeys make no apologies by letting in the virus since they didn’t close the borders early. Since they cannot fix the infection problem at 64000 out of 5m people, they fix the severe infection problem at 37 out of 5m people. Then they keep shouting that vaccination is the answer. You have to be a moron to think that the problem is mainly solved by vaccination, just because every message on media is about it.

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  • Covid Ceca-imports:

    Should we say,after 1st Lockdown,Sg was well controlled
    There were hardly ANY LOCALLY TRANSMITTED CASES.
    THERE WERE,HOWEVER,IMPORTED CASES,i believe from among CECA-FTs,if only the govt statistics are honest?

    So,from NO LOCAL CASES(OR VERY FEW) ,WE NOW HAVE LESSER IMPORTED CASES BUT HIGH NUMBER LOCALLY TRANSMITTED CASES.

    WHO ALLOW FOR SUCH A SCENARIO?
    MAYBE THE PROFESSOR WANTS TO EXPLAIN N *OSTRACISE* THE REAL CULPRITS?

    Sgs never wanted to have SO MANY DELTA-INFECTED CECA-FTs returning here into CROWDED TINY SG WHERE COVID DELTA CAN SPREAD MUCH FASTER BECAUSE OF DENSITY?

    SO,WHO TO PUNISH?
    THE SGS WHO KPKB ABOUT CECA-FT-RETURNEES AND THEIR INFECTED RELATIVES AND WERE DISGRACED AS *RACISTS*.

    OH ,COME ON,LETS BE FAIR.

    IN ANY CASE,EVEN VACCINATED CAN CARRY THE VIRUS N INFECT OTHERS,YES OR NO?

    TO TREAT THE VACCINATED AS THOUGH THEY WONT PASS THE GERM TO THE NON-INFECTED IS COMPLETELY WRONG THINKING AND STUPID OF A MUCH RESPECTED PROFESSOR N THINKER OF INTERNATIONAL STANDING.

    WHETHER VACCINATED OR NOT,THE SAME STANDARDS OF PRECAUTIONARY MEASURES MUST APPLY.

    IN FACT,TO MY HUMBLE COMMONER’S MIND,THOSE WHO ARE NOT VACCINATED N NOT INFECTED ARE THE STRONGER/HEALTHIER N CAREFUL ONES.
    WHY PENALISE THEM?
    GO AFTER THE *CULPRITS*,NAMELY,THOSE WHO DUMP CECA-DELTA COVID HERE?

    EVEN BEFORE DELTA SPREAD HERE,THERE MUST BE A LARGE NUMBER OF CECA-FTs who falsify VACCINE-CERTS N LET INTO SG BY ICA OFFICERS CARELESSLY.
    EVEN THOSE WHO WERE QUARANTINED COULD HAVE PASS THE GERM TO SGS WHIM THEY COME INTO CONTACT.

    THERE WAS NO NATION-WIDE TESTING AND WE CANNOT CLAIM LOW TRANSMISSION COMING FROM IMPORTED CASES,CAN WE?

    SO,FARK THE GAHMEN FOR FATKING US UP.

    NAMES LIKE OYK COME TO MIND?

    FARK YOU ALL IDIOTS!

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  • Cecs-infected-FTs:

    Take Asian countries as examples of Delta spread.

    If you look carefully,CHINA HAS AMONG LOWEST DELTA CASES AS A PERCENTAGE OF ITS POPULATION AND WHY?

    THERE ARE MUCH FEWER CECA-FTs kind there.

    WHY SG HAS AMONG HIGHEST DELTA CASES AS A PERCENTAGE OF POPULATION.
    SIMPLE,THERE ARE TOO MANY CECA-FTs PER CAPITA OF SGS HERE BY COURTESY OF PAP.

    BLAME non-vaccinated sgs.
    Tommy Koh,you are part of why there are so many CECA-FTs here and why sgs are sugfering.
    Yet,you want to talk big.
    You are senile now,unfit to pass public comments!

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  • Soccerbetting2:

    I thought I posted here in this weboage,did I ?

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  • Nobody:

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/16/covid-vaccine-side-effects-compensation-lawsuit.html

    If you signup or walk-in voluntarily to take the vaccine, you would have, knowingly or unknowingly, agreed to take your own responsibility for effects of a vaccine that is not fully tested yet and not approve for sale by FDA.

    We thank you for contributing to the data collection.

    You think the gahmen dare to make vaccination mandatory? They cannot even discriminate against unvaccinated people.

    I will ask a lawyer to draft a letter stating that if anything were to happen to me during a period after vaccination, the gahmen will have to compensate me, because the gahmen wanted me to vaccinate.

    Finally, please check your mental health , whether you are vaccinated or not. I find reasonable people doing stupid things nowadays, and some are even becoming forgetful.

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  • Absurdity:

    Pretend to stage some dialogues over the media on people’s concerns, and avoided tough questions like the drugs are emergency approved, not safety approved by WHO. For so many days after the drugs were launched, they have never at any point dispel the doubts about long term side effects. Morons but those who tell half truths.

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  • question Mark?:

    Think it would have better if India self-isolate(quarrantine) its people than allowing them to return to other countries as FTs.
    By doing so,it would have spared the world from this more infectious DELTA variant spread.

    If so,vaccines could help India stops the sptead too as there would be better supply of vaccines.

    WHO fails in this instance to stop this DELTA spread after having learn from Intial Civid 19 itself?

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  • question Mark?:

    Sg govt even more stupid.
    It allowed CECA-FTs ,probably infected,to be imported into Singapore.
    How daft.

    Sg is 5th ranked in Delta cases as a percentage of total population.
    Why PAP no claim GLORY for it?

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  • opposition dude:

    The bad old Prof Tommy Koh should be slammed hard for even suggesting to punish those who are not vaccinated. What kind of suggestion is that to bar the unvaccinated ones from dining in, attending banquets and all that? He might as well suggest quarantining the unvaccinated until they agree to be vaccinated lah!

    What the hell is going through his insane mind by suggesting this? That the unvaccinated are highly dangerous and thus are super spreaders? The vaccinated ones shouldn’t worry about the unvaccinated ones since they are all either partially or fully vaccinated what, PAP says so after all and are always blaming the unvaccinated for everything.

    Smart people saying dumb things as usual.

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  • just throws tantrum:

    //ADDING TO MY TWO PRECEDING POSTS ABOVE, the pandemic is mainly “pooled interdependency” and unclear of its (direction) of “sequential interdependency” (either from the unvaccinated to the vaccinated or the other way around presumption).//

    exactly. it is like a uncouth person who just throws “tantrum” at someone who he deems not-to-his-liking as he is just getting nowhere ???

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  • Ah Por Nag Nag:

    opposition dude:
    The bad old Prof Tommy Koh should be slammed hard for even suggesting to punish those who are not vaccinated. What kind of suggestion is that to bar the unvaccinated ones from dining in, attending banquets and all that? He might as well suggest quarantining the unvaccinated until they agree to be vaccinated lah!

    What the hell is going through his insane mind by suggesting this? That the unvaccinated are highly dangerous and thus are super spreaders? The vaccinated ones shouldn’t worry about the unvaccinated ones since they are all either partially or fully vaccinated what, PAP says so after all and are always blaming the unvaccinated for everything.

    Smart people saying dumb things as usual.

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  • Some body:

    @ no body,
    I like the part you call upon those vaccinated to check their mental health!
    I have a strong feeling that this so called professor, must be suffering from the effect you mentioned!!!

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  • Govs caught lying:

    UK gov lying to its own citizen. No worry because sheep, British sheep, sheep, other sheep, believe every word of the UK gov.

    Gov of a small country also practice the same data “management.”

    “Majority of Covid patients in hospital may have been admitted for OTHER ailments before testing positive, leaked NHS data suggests ”

    “Over 50% of Covid patients in England tested positive only after being hospitalised – likely for other reasons – leaked NHS data has suggested, raising questions about the true impact the virus is having on the healthcare system. ”

    “When people hear about hospitalisations with Covid, they will assume that Covid is the likely cause, but this data shows something quite different – this is about Covid being detected after tests were looking for it,” he said, adding that the current data being fed to the public could lead to “false conclusions” and exaggerate the virus’ actual impact on the NHS.

    UK gov lying to boost image that th

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  • No Jab No Job:

    …’No jabs, no job’: Fiji to make COVID-19 vaccination compulsory…CNA 9 Jul…
    Vaccine hesitancy is a worldwide problem.
    All govts have no choice but to take action.
    Everybody thinks he becomes a vaccinologist by reading a few articles on Internet.
    TKL, GMS comes to mind.
    If you do not trust politicians, fine…..but top REAL scientists ???
    Go read what the REAL top 100 scientists say about vaccine, then decide.
    You do not have to listen to GMS or make decision based on what you read on FB/Whastapp—GMS think he is a scientist.
    Do not go to vitamin-selling anti-vax websites.

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  • Test Balloon!:

    Looks like the balloon just got popped!

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  • who spreading:

    The Virus spread could have been from Vaccinated people. Not impossible.
    Don’t blame the unvaccinated.OK?

    Maybe should keep the vaccinated at home…very safe there for everyone.
    Then the unvaccinated can go out and enjoy.

    Discrimination is a slippery path with no return.

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  • Protect Aliens Party:

    Dear God,

    May you punish those who wish to punish others senselessly ASAP. PLEASE!

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  • An Earful Retort:

    I can see that Professor Tommy Koh is very shy to expose his pinna – ears.

    From the many photographs in his younger days till today, he has kept both his side hairs long enough to hide his ears.

    Is this for fashion ? But this is dead and long gone after the 70s.

    Why then would an old man in today’s tropical sweltering heat want to retain that uncomfortable turfs of hair down to his ears ?

    Maybe he is secretive with its birthmarks, deformity or unsightly BAT EARS that he doesn’t want the public to now.

    Just my thought.

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  • first-moving narrative:

    //I totally agreed with TRE Tech that the vaccinated have been exposed to covid virus how else can they get their immunity and may be more dangerous as silent carrier and spreader than the unvacinated who are not tainted in any way.//

    aiyoh. perhaps why the first-moving narrative by the white monkey gang has to change by “labelling” the unvaccinated as “socially irresponsible and putting those unvaccinated at risk” ??? if more and more are vaccinated, then the possibility of a higher number of vaccinated silent spreader (since they can still be exposed and the virus still in their bodies) becomes greater, and the vaccinated may well be the larger source of spreading the virus ???

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  • Better solution Tommy:

    Tommy, wah, congratulation, your legal mind working again? No comment on court liar gone scot free n conflict of interest is based on career success. Chicken or gorillarized till gutless! Where is the Pre UN first class hons law SU grad Tommy? Lost everything thru years of bootlicking. Pathetic, oiTommy!

    Yeah since you r joining in C19 bootlicking harem, why not propose death sentence for all your generation too afraid to be vacinated for fear of prematured death or life long suffering! Is this what u learn in UN about human rights n education of the uneducated! Tommy, Tommy when r y standing up straight. No many years left ah. Your friends hope to see Tommy they know n not public Tommy swallowing up private Tommy.

    Death sentence indeed! Where is Auspicium meliores Aevi? Where gone Save the whales, dolphins and the nature? R human lesser than beasts when they r ignorant n not as well educated as Tommy? B*$t**d$ lie thru their teeth r not lesser than the b**** n punished or as your Chinese Language prof colleague would say: not comparable to pigs n dogs n not deserving to be among humans!
    Sorry a friend friend whispered: u a perfect banana, don’t understand. Well ignorance is pardonable but not stupidity.
    So Tommy, come back be what u r, not what they want you to be! Brownoser!

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  • Soccerbetting2:

    Reported on TOC :Quote-”Ho Ching says KTV and Geylang nightlife can be reopened as vaccination is now available
    by The Online Citizen 28/07/2021Reading Time: 3 mins read
    Ho Ching says KTV and Geylang nightlife can be reopened as vaccination is now available
    Given that the national COVID-19 vaccination programme has kicked off, all KTV centres as well as the Geylang nightlife can now be reopened, said Temasek CEO Ho Ching in a Facebook post on Tuesday (27 July).

    Mdm Ho said that these places can be reopened provided that vaccination and testing are placed as key measures, in addition to other precautions like air sterilising and cleaning.

    “Actually, with vaccination now available, we can re-open not just KTV but also the Geylang night life, with vaccination and testing as key measures, alongside other safety measures like air sterilising and cleaning,” she wrote.

    Response :Why HC so hurry to open up KTV and Geylang ? Corona virus not spread enough meh ? People died not enough meh ? Pui !

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  • It is FEAR!:

    Fearful Anti-vaxxers will say and do anything to avoid the vaccine.
    Sadly almost all of them are not able to overcome their fear.
    Go read on history of vaccine hesitancy since the days of smallpox vaccination.
    They will never admit that it is FEAR that make them read antivax articles, hence brainwashing themselves.
    Thus consoling themselves.
    ”In Singapore, there are two vaccines that are mandatory by law. These are Diphtheria and Measles.”
    That is why very communicable diseases that can be controlled by vaccine are MANDATORY.
    Covid vaccine should be made MANDATORY.
    At the minimum that would stop the nonsense that is spread by the antivaxxers.

    Tech: Yes, it is about fear, the fear of being seriously injured and dying. People have died from the mRNA vaccine, so it is not just some rumor. Better be a coward that is alive then some daft hero who is dead. lol

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  • RA:

    99% fraud in works and 1% Science

    If Trump can be censored, most can be censored as well unless comply to the “authorized” Science. All Science is funded by infinity USD-CNY coupling power. When USD and CNY decouple, most fraud will collapse naturally.

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  • David Westin:

    It is FEAR!:
    Fearful Anti-vaxxers will say and do anything to avoid the vaccine.
    Sadly almost all of them are not able to overcome their fear.
    Go read on history of vaccine hesitancy since the days of smallpox vaccination.
    They will never admit that it is FEAR that make them read antivax articles, hence brainwashing themselves.
    Thus consoling themselves.
    ”In Singapore, there are two vaccines that are mandatory by law. These are Diphtheria and Measles.”
    That is why very communicable diseases that can be controlled by vaccine are MANDATORY.
    Covid vaccine should be made MANDATORY.
    At the minimum that would stop the nonsense that is spread by the antivaxxers.

    Tech: Yes, it is about fear, the fear of being seriously injured and dying. People have died from the mRNA vaccine, so it is not just some rumor. Better be a coward that is alive then some daft hero who is dead. lol

    Who fear who?
    Fear? My ASS!
    So why don’t make it mandatory then!

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  • Ahlim:

    We Human still don,t get it!

    We r given 9 planet.and only 1 liveable in!

    And we mess it up.so no body to blame.

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    @ Sg govt even more stupid.
    It allowed CECA-FTs ,probably infected,to be imported into Singapore.
    How daft.

    Sg is 5th ranked in Delta cases as a percentage of total population.
    Why PAP no claim GLORY for it?

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    WTF is tis.

    As we have our Changi case. Mighty China also have its NanJing airport case.

    The only difference is u people bash PAP. Pro China fans awfully quiet.

    Act blur and act blind.

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  • @ No Jab No Job::

    No Jab No Job: If you do not trust politicians, fine…..but top REAL scientists ???
    Go read what the REAL top 100 scientists say about vaccine, then decide.

    In this world of covet censorship, real scientists are being censored. They have to resort to self-censorship in order not to lose their jobs. The so called experts like Dr Fauci and the like cannot be trusted. Can experts in WHO be trusted? Can drugs regulatory bodies be trusted?

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  • Nobody to trust?:

    So then we are left with nobody to trust; nobody.
    Since it takes a lifetime to be an expert immunologist/vaccinologist, we cannot start to be one.
    Meanwhile 5,000,000,000–5 billion —doses given; i.e almost 4 billion HEROES took the shots.
    And….we, cowards, hide in the toilets with the masks on posting on TRE, spreading falsehoods to make ourselves feel better.
    We cannot live like this forever.

    @ No Jab No Job:: In this world of covet censorship, real scientists are being censored. They have to resort to self-censorship in order not to lose their jobs. The so called experts like Dr Fauci and the like cannot be trusted. Can experts in WHO be trusted? Can drugs regulatory bodies be trusted?

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  • a lifetime to ply their trade:

    //Since it takes a lifetime to be an expert immunologist/vaccinologist, we cannot start to be one.//

    yar lor. then why only call it “approved for emergency use” ??? why not just give the vaccine “full approval” ??? don’t they trust the expert immunologist/vaccinologist who take a lifetime to ply their trade ??? based on hard science right ???

    https://vaccine.unchealthcare.org/science/vaccine-approval/whats-the-difference-between-fda-emergency-use-authorization-and-fda-approval/

    //Meanwhile 5,000,000,000–5 billion —doses given; i.e almost 4 billion HEROES took the shots.//

    heroes ??? more like live trials with a huge number of participants ??? got suggestion say 3rd booster shot ??? we need more heroes leh ??

    //And….we, cowards, hide in the toilets with the masks on posting on TRE, spreading falsehoods to make ourselves feel better.
    We cannot live like this forever.//

    aiyoh. why worry if you are vaccinated right ? those vaccinated are “safe” right or they are more concerned that they may be “blamed” for being possible silent spreaders ???

    cannot live like that forever hor ?? who wants ?? virus is frustrating a lot of people who cannot tahan any longer and may be ‘seduced’ to be bochat & take the chance hor ???

    aiyoh. Generally ok with vaccines but uncomfortable with the wayang kind of logic / narrative lah ???

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  • Smart Nation:

    Strange how the table is turned around. Now, the vaccinated are blamed for spreading the virus! At the beginning, it was “get vaccinated to stop the virus from spreading.” Has the anti-vaxxers won the propaganda war in SG? LOL!

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  • Data Says It:

    Smart Nation: Strange how the table is turned around. Now, the vaccinated are blamed for spreading the virus! At the beginning, it was “get vaccinated to stop the virus from spreading.” Has the anti-vaxxers won the propaganda war in SG? LOL!

    Just look at what is happening around the world (before and after mass vaccination) and the data being published.

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  • Tommy fake or real:

    Tommy, shame on u. Since when u become a diehard brownnoser. Is it when u were removed from the news to become UN rep speaking for the regime u criticised. U bargained n rewarded. Succumbed to be brownoser since? Or could it be u plan to fool the nepotic chief by criticising to get attention?

    But u should have the least brain to shut up n not to meddle with law to expose your brownosing humiliation! Conflict of interest vs career success? Singapore Govt is private company? Lying in court not criminal act just becos he is rich n associated ?

    Tommy if u still have human conscience. Right those lawless law cons first before iu attack on the unvaccinated oldies like yourself wholesale without understanding the circumstances of each case of objection. Does your first class honours n UN attachment n bargain taught u guilty without defense! If so, U r really pathetic Tommy. Very reluctant to agree what the young talents r saying now but evidence shows u r. Don’t let your children lost faith in u n live with shame with the shocking discovery. Of lurking fake.

    Sad sad sad. When will men ever learn?

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  • So it has been confirmed that the viral load in an infected person is the same, whether vaccinated or not, maybe Tommy might want to retract this ill-informed recommendation?

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  • oxygen:

    JUST WAIT FOR THIS TO HAPPEN (and I hope not) when there is no vaccine off the shelves or under development, let see what those vaccine nut heads have to say.

    ’30 times more deadly’: Fears Covid variants could merge

    https://au.news.yahoo.com/30-times-more-deadly-fears-covid-variants-could-merge-084519240.html

    Vaccination then will be like someone peeing his/her water on a house engulfed in raging fire.

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  • Sperm of Whales:

    Tommy and son has business interests in sg? Paying much tax i suppose?

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  • oxygen:

    TOMMY KOH IS DEAD WRONG on this affirmative assertion.

    Tommy Koh:Fourth, I think we should once again allow in- house dining for fully vaccinated persons of groups of eight persons. Our F and B sector have suffered enough and we should help them now before it is too late for some of them. To the best of my knowledge no one has caught the virus in any of our restaurants

    Here is the proof:

    MOH:
    In a media statement on Wednesday, the Ministry of Health (MOH) said that the woman was a household contact of a confirmed case who had visited Samy’s Curry Restaurant in Dempsey. Fifty-five Covid-19 cases have since been linked to the restaurant.

    https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/58-year-old-singaporean-woman-dies-covid-19-complications-brings-spores-death-toll-39?cid=Webmobile_readnext_internal_09032021_tdy

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  • PAP favors foreigners openly n:

    Singaporeans not vaccinated are imposed restrictions in their own country to protect other Singaporeans who might be at risk.

    But those from Taiwan and other countries who are not vaccinated can come here and Minister asking us to expect more to fall sick / die when economy opens up?

    PAP really think Singaporeans good to bully or what?

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