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Shock finding in Covid-19 vaccine study of more than 1 million people

A new study of more than one million Covid-19 vaccine recipients has concluded a rare blood clotting side effect is as likely to occur from a Pfizer jab as the much-maligned AstraZeneca vaccine.

In a paper pre-released in The Lancet, researchers from the UK, Spain and the Netherlands said both jabs have a “similar” incident rate of thrombosis.

“In this study we have found the safety profiles of ChAdOx1 (AstraZeneca) and BNT162b2 (Pfizer), an mRNA-based vaccine, to be broadly similar,” the paper explained.

The study of Spanish patients also found blood clots are more common in people who test positive for Covid-19 than those who have received either jab.

While the paper is not yet peer reviewed, it is an alarming development that will put into question the narrative around the AstraZeneca vaccine in Australia, where confidence in the jab plummeted earlier in the year following the reporting of fatal cases of blood clotting.

Mixed messaging around the vaccine has led to hesitancy at a time when the nation, particularly NSW, needs to reach a high level of vaccination to fend off surging rates of the highly-infectious Delta variant.

While Chief Medical Officer Paul Kelly has repeatedly stressed the benefits of the AstraZeneca jab outweigh the risks, there has been conflicting advice from other health authorities, notably Queensland’s Chief Health Officer Dr Jeannette Young.

When Prime Minister Scott Morrison urged under 40s to seek advice on the AstraZeneca jab last month, Dr Young said she “genuinely did not understand” why Mr Morrison would make such an announcement.

“I do not want under-40s to get AstraZeneca,” she stressed, saying there was minimal death in young Australians from Covid.

As cases of blood clotting arose earlier in the year, believed to be thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS), the Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation (ATAGI) advised against under 60s receiving the AstraZeneca jab.

Such mixed messaging has led to an increase in people eligible for the jab holding out for the scarce Pfizer vaccine, including those who have had one AstraZeneca jab.

Weighing up the heightened risk with Delta outbreaks, ATAGI has since changed its advice, telling over 18s they can seek GP advice on the AstraZeneca.

Experts fear lasting damage from mixed messaging

Professor Greg Dore, an infectious diseases expert at UNSW’s Kirby Institute, told the Sydney Morning Herald Australia will “look back on anti-AstraZenecism as one of the greatest public health failings in many years”.

“Even though we’ve seen many young people coming forward for AstraZeneca, many more older people are still ‘waiting for Pfizer’ due to irreparable damage by some in the medical profession and other commentators,” he said.

Dame Sarah Gilbert, the vaccinologist who co-developed the AstraZeneca jab, told the publication she feared people are “too worried” after receiving mixed messages.

“I think the problem is the messaging around the vaccination, because if you’re telling people at some stage, ‘oh you shouldn’t have this vaccine, it’s probably not the best thing for you’ and then you want to change that message and say ‘oh, no we’ve changed our mind, it is good’, I think that makes it difficult for people who are considering whether to get vaccinated and when to get vaccinated,” she said.

 

 Source: Yahoo! News (AU)

 

 

 

 

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22 Responses to “Shock finding in Covid-19 vaccine study of more than 1 million people”

  • oxygen:

    AROUND 35% OF THE OVER 50s Down Under are NOT bothering to step forward to be vaccinated.

    They just wait and see what is coming up on the vaccine scene of safety-risks, won’t take chances for now.

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  • Many unknown:

    Now many unknown about the various Vaccine and the Virus mutation.
    Nothing is certain at this stage.
    Many “facts” may turn out wrong in future.
    No need to rush now…take time to understand the situation better to take better next step to protect our people.

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  • Oops!

    Tik Tok Tik Tok Tik Tok Tik Tok Tik Tok.

    That would be 80% of Sinkies, dio bo?

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  • MarBowling:

    Holee shits. In Australia, With the HEIGHTENED ALERTS oops RISKS with Delta outbreaks, the ATAGI HAS CHANGED ITS ADVICE AND DARE NOT TO COMMIT but has ADVISED those 18 year old to SEEK GP advice on the AstraZeneca! WTF! Don’t tell us that those DAFTS who have WILLINGLY ACCEPTED TO BE POKED BY THOSE 2 HOLEE JABS, Pfizer and AstraZeneca, are NOW ALL SITTING DUCKS, WAITING TO BE SHOT DOWN AS AND WHEN THE HIDDEN HANDS DECIDE TO SHOOT AT FIRST SIGHT!

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  • MarBowling:

    Correction …those above 18

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  • Billy ma:

    To jab or not to jab

    To risk or do nothing

    At this present time, nothing is fact.
    Going down the road, nobody is sure of anything.

    It’s like you need a job to live but you’re not exactly sure what you want nor whether its the right job for you.
    So what do you do now.

    Do nothing or just take one that’s most available & give it a go.

    The results may be disaster or it may be the best choice you’d chosen.

    Nobody knows for sure.
    New understanding & data will pop up every now & then, all one can do in this trying time is to live on as best as one can.

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  • oxygen:

    ATAGI MORE FEARFUL AND CONFUSED of the safety risks of AstraZenecca than the GPs than those zombies living Down Under – except ScoMo who urged acceptance of AstraZenecca vaccine but himself some six months later admitted unprompted to have taken the Pfizer mRNA vaccine in February 2021.

    Yahoo! News (AU):Weighing up the heightened risk with Delta outbreaks, ATAGI has since changed its advice, telling over 18s they can seek GP advice on the AstraZeneca

    ATAGI is pushing the buck to GPs.

    In hindsight now, ScoMo perhaps took the right choice. AstraZenecca – after over 100 millions jabs delivered and done globally is said to be “reviewing its options”.

    EXCLUSIVE AstraZeneca exploring options for COVID-19 vaccine business – executive

    https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/exclusive-astrazeneca-exploring-options-covid-19-vaccine-business-exec-says-2021-07-29/

    How about those who are fully or partially vaccinated if AstraZenecca abandoned its vaccine “life boat”?

    And now CDC head says data available informs of same virus load quantum for those infected as between vaccinated and unvaccinated in belated warnings – AFTER BILLIONS AROUND THE WORLD HAVE BEEN VACCINATED.

    HOW MUCH IRRECOVERABLE DAMAGE HAVE BEEN DONE?

    And still continuiing?

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  • 4.2 million deaths:

    Meanwhile at least 4,200,000 have died from the Covid DISEASE.
    It is a terrible way to die.
    At least 200,000,000 are infected.
    This is CERTAIN.
    These facts are not WRONG.
    No need to rush now?
    How many more need to die?
    If you know any one of the 4.2 million that has died, you will be rushing to be vaccinated with any vaccine.
    I know 2 of them, relatives of friends.
    There is a vaccine war among the various ”brand”–so expect negative news about vaccines.

    Many unknown:
    Now many unknown about the various Vaccine and the Virus mutation.
    Nothing is certain at this stage.
    Many “facts” may turn out wrong in future.
    No need to rush now…take time to understand the situation better to take better next step to protect our people.

    Tech: Do you know anyone who has died within hours after vaccination? Well, some of our readers do and if one day you do encounter one, you would want to avoid vaccination, because these unfortunate people were healthy and do not deserver to die.

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  • Anti mRNA:

    Let’s wait for the non-mRNA vaccine like spike protein vaccine Novavax which is non-fetal & non-genetic based!

    IT IS WORTH THE WAIT!

    MEANWHILE, STAY SAFE! FOLLOW THE SM MEASURES – WEAR MASK, SANITISE HANDS, MAINTAIN SAFE DISTANCING.

    BETTER TO BE SAFE THAN SORRY! DON’T TAKE THE RISK OF DEATH DUE TO BLOOD CLOTTING & ALLERGIC REACTION OF mRNA VACCINE!

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  • Funny lay, those so-called experts at MTF normally talk a lot one wat, everyday also got spill half-truths and BS one, why no response to the CDC’s latest statement?

    CDC wor, very powderful agency, they talk people listens one wat.

    What happened? The medical experts on leave?

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  • MarBowling:

    TRE Techie:
    August 1, 2021 at 2:21 pm (Quote)
    Funny lay, those so-called experts at MTF normally talk a lot one wat, everyday also got spill half-truths and BS one, why no response to the CDC’s latest statement?

    CDC wor, very powderful agency, they talk people listens one wat.

    What happened? The medical experts on leave?

    Response: most likely all the medical experts are on LOONG leave, leaving their 2nd in command to hold the fort! THINK Once they reappear again, expect their USUAL TKSS strategy to cover their BIG FAT ARSES!

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  • Death By Fear:

    ”Can You Really Be Scared to Death?”

    The answer: yes, humans can be scared to death. In fact, any strong emotional reaction can trigger fatal amounts of a chemical, such as adrenaline, in the body. It happens very rarely, but it can happen to anyone. The risk of death from fear or another strong emotion is greater for individuals with preexisting heart conditions, but people who are perfectly healthy in all other respects can also fall victim.”
    https://www.britannica.com/story/can-you-really-be-scared-to-death
    ….Yes people do die after vaccination; but more than 4,000,000 have died of covid.
    …Were these ‘vaccination’ deaths caused directly by the vaccine or SOMETHING else?
    ..If you continue to read about how deadly vaccines are, you may begin to truly believe in it.
    ..That becomes your reality—YOU LITERALLY CAN DIE OF FEAR

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  • Wah… still no sound from the MTF huh?

    Pretend donno anything no hear no see so can keep the LEEders and Temasick management happy happy to vacinated the entire population huh?

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  • Spineless Sinkie Syndrome:

    Don’t be spineless or cowed by the fear-mongering of porkliticians.
    Everybody dies eventually. Fortunately too, porkliticians cannot escape DEATH also, even LKY who once arrogantly claims “he can rise from his grave”. LOL.

    If I have to live, I choose to live FREE and AU NATURAL – i.e.) having your own body generate natural immunity.
    What’s the point of living like a dependent SLAVE (in this case to a mRNA vaccine)?

    Mother Nature created the human body to be able to live FREE and your mother gave birth to you also to have a strong internal NATURAL immune system.

    Latest data already shows these mRNA vaccines efficacy wanes (i.e. reduces) SIGNIFICANTLY after just a FEW months! and you need to have booster jabs again & again & again… for God-knows how long.

    https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/coronavirus/1626006260-delta-variant-israeli-research-suggests-vaccine-efficacy-wanes-after-6-months

    Your body may even lose its “natural immune system” as mRNA may become like Cocaine.

    There is no need to keep pumping yourself with drugs, especially one was hastily pushed out and has NOT gone through proper and full clinical trials.
    It makes no sense medically, rationally and morally.

    An “effective” & useful vaccine is supposed to be a once-off event and which confers LIFETIME immunity. Just like if you get chickenpox while young, you should never get it again because your own body’s natural defense system will remember how to fight this disease for the rest of your life.

    If you have to CONTINUOUSLY jab yourself with “booster” mRNA shots just to stay healthy or alive, then it means its actually POISON – like Cocaine needles which your body becomes DEPENDENT on. Then, you become a SLAVE just like Cocaine addicts.

    There is NO “mixed message” in the SIMPLE LOGIC above. Full Stop.

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  • Ah Chik:

    So jab also exposed.
    Dont jab also dangerous.
    What to do?
    Si peh kang koh to make decision.

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  • Delta Ong YK:

    Who are responsible for importing DELTA variant in huge numbers into Sg via CECA-FTA?

    Foolishness is all around us.Scholars ?

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  • 天无绝人之路:

    Ah Chik:
    So jab also exposed.
    Dont jab also dangerous.
    What to do?
    Si peh kang koh to make decision.

    天无绝人之路,just be patient . . .

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  • MarBowling:

    Spineless Sinkie Syndrome:
    August 1, 2021 at 11:16 pm (Quote)
    Don’t be spineless or cowed by the fear-mongering of porkliticians.
    Everybody dies eventually. Fortunately too, porkliticians cannot escape DEATH also, even LKY who once arrogantly claims “he can rise from his grave”. LOL.

    If I have to live, I choose to live FREE and AU NATURAL – i.e.) having your own body generate natural immunity.
    What’s the point of living like a dependent SLAVE (in this case to a mRNA vaccine)?

    Mother Nature created the human body to be able to live FREE and your mother gave birth to you also to have a strong internal NATURAL immune system.

    Latest data already shows these mRNA vaccines efficacy wanes (i.e. reduces) SIGNIFICANTLY after just a FEW months! and you need to have booster jabs again & again & again… for God-knows how long.

    https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/coronavirus/1626006260-delta-variant-israeli-research-suggests-vaccine-efficacy-wanes-after-6-months

    Your body may even lose its “natural immune system” as mRNA may become like Cocaine.

    Response: GREAT and INSIGHTFUL Comments. Hopefully, those who haven’t Kenna poked by the Holee mNRA jabs like Pfizer, are able to or access to READ your comments to make an INFORMED decision to go for the Holee jabs or NOT!

    There is no need to keep pumping yourself with drugs, especially one was hastily pushed out and has NOT gone through proper and full clinical trials.
    It makes no sense medically, rationally and morally.

    An “effective” & useful vaccine is supposed to be a once-off event and which confers LIFETIME immunity. Just like if you get chickenpox while young, you should never get it again because your own body’s natural defense system will remember how to fight this disease for the rest of your life.

    If you have to CONTINUOUSLY jab yourself with “booster” mRNA shots just to stay healthy or alive, then it means its actually POISON – like Cocaine needles which your body becomes DEPENDENT on. Then, you become a SLAVE just like Cocaine addicts.

    There is NO “mixed message” in the SIMPLE LOGIC above. Full Stop.

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  • This is for Monday:

    There are currently 35 cases of serious illness requiring oxygen supplementation, and eight in critical condition in the intensive care unit (ICU). Four amongst these 43 cases is fully vaccinated. Of these, three require oxygen supplementation while one requires ICU care as they have underlying medical conditions.

    So that means:

    There are a total of 43 serious cases, out of which 4 FULLY VACCINATED are in serious condition. So means fully vaccinated or not, one can also get seriously ill.

    @Spineless Sinkie Syndrome

    I say liao, this C19 jabbing biz is a cash cow for Temasick, which may explain why Sinovac no allow because it would reduce the profit of Temasick.

    Now say is free, half-year later, maybe will say all need to pay and pay, then those already hooked on mRNA ones have to booster every 3 to 6 months, Temasick laughing to the bank liao lor. Top honchos can expect HUGE bonuses year after year.

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  • MarBowling:

    MarBowling:
    August 3, 2021 at 11:19 am (Quote)
    Spineless Sinkie Syndrome:
    August 1, 2021 at 11:16 pm (Quote)
    Don’t be spineless or cowed by the fear-mongering of porkliticians.
    Everybody dies eventually. Fortunately too, porkliticians cannot escape DEATH also, even LKY who once arrogantly claims “he can rise from his grave”. LOL.

    Response : oops sorry. My response is only a short one:
    Response: GREAT and INSIGHTFUL Comments. Hopefully, those who haven’t Kenna poked by the Holee mNRA jabs like Pfizer, are able to or access to READ your comments to make an INFORMED decision to go for the Holee jabs or NOT!

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  • Soccerbetting2:

    Today,I went for vaccination at community centre .I think community centre presently offer only moderna vaccine while polyclinic offer pfizer vaccine .After moderna vaccination ,has to wait for at least half an hour before they release you. Community centre give one box of mask ,one sanitiser and one bottle of mineral water .That evil b**** backside woman seem relunctant to give that mineral water bottle !Want to keep those mineral water for themselves ? Pui !

    Vaccination injection is small pain at the point of injection.Feel good after 30 minutes.Left the vaccination centre,went back home to sleep .After a couple hours of sleep,wake up and feel pain and sore on my left arm .Hope the pain dies down tomorrow .Do feel some very minor discomfort at heart ,vaccine is attacking heart area too .So till now, cannot say whether vaccine is good or bad .

    And why the whole place of vaccination is again filled with about 80% evil backside women staff manning the place ? Shouldn’t half these jobs be given to the males to work ? Pui !

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  • shit:

    The world is in a shit.
    Not sure what is true or really work.
    Too many unknown and the narrative seems to a be according to script.
    May turn out badly in the end.
    More than 4 millions death nay be in vain….

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