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No provision under CECA for Indian nationals to become PRs and citizens

Again, the authorities are painting one side of the picture to mislead. This time, it got the MTI to do the dirty work.

It starts off stating authoritatively that there is “no provision under CECA for Indian nationals to become PRs and citizens”. That’s true and actually obvious because this agreement pertains to investment, not citizenship. But we all know that PMEs form the pool for future PRs and citizens, unlike Work Permit holders.
It then says that it is “not true that CECA requires the Singapore authorities to automatically grant employment passes to Indian PMEs who want to work here”.

It gives the impression that Indian nationals are treated no differently from other nationals, but it is not true. All applications for Employment Passes must satisfy the minimum qualifying salaries as well as other standard requirements like educational qualification, employment offer from a company etc. So in that sense, approval is “not automatic”, but it is again stating the obvious.

What they didn’t say is that the Singapore authority is obligated under CECA to grant an Indian applicant an Employment Pass once he or she satisfies the various criteria, whereas, it has no such obligation for other nationals.

If the qualified Indian applicant is rejected, he can seek recourse via his government as provided under CECA.

Let me quote Article 9.3.1: “Each Party shall grant temporary entry to natural persons of other Party,…in accordance with this Chapter.”

Unless I have a different understanding, “shall grant” means “must grant”. And this include 127 different categories of professionals.

MTI goes on to say that “all companies must comply with rules on fair hiring”.

Again, this is misleading because although all companies are subject to the Fair Consideration Framework, that requirement is not applicable if the applicant is an Indian national.

Let me quote Article 9.3.3: “Neither Party shall require labour market testing, economic needs testing or other procedures of similar effects as a condition for temporary entry in respect of natural persons upon whom the benefits of this Chapter are conferred.”

Economic needs testing basically means the employer must ensure that there are no suitable locals before employing a foreigner, hence, MOM’s Fair Consideration Framework. But Indians are exempted.

I stand corrected because the text in Free Trade Agreements is meant to obfuscate rather than clarify because if the public understands and realise that the odds are stacked against them in favour of businesses, they would be thumping their pitchforks in front of Parliament House, after all, FTAs are actually Investor Rights Agreements, rather than agreements about trade. Hope the authorities can clarify.

 

Foong Swee Fong

 

 

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18 Responses to “No provision under CECA for Indian nationals to become PRs and citizens”

  • Tremendous:

    The village chief said the village must remain open to foreign villagers.
    As if the villagers don’t know. He thinks he is smart to take the argument to the extreme as if local villagers shut off all foreign villagers. Oppo chiefs asked him to show numbers in Parliplace and he has yet to take out the numbers, after so long. He has absolutely no idea that people are laughing at his idiotic comment in their offices now. The way they are letting in foreign villagers to the point they denied the local villagers of dignified jobs is horrifying.
    Last year, he kept drumming about jobs for local villagers in the village elections. Nothing mentioned about foreign villagers in his campaign. This year change tack. Might as well say he cannot resolve rock bottom fertility rates for years with his high pay, and put the fertility rates at the back burner.
    Out of 200+ villages, this village fertility rate is no. 1, 2, but from the bottom!
    If he has any sense, step down now for the good of the country.

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  • Well said!!:

    Certainly well analysed and pointed out.

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  • no provision for wayang:

    aiyoh. also can say no provision for wayang lar BUT still wayang at own fancy lar ???

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  • nitrogen:

    we protested in HLP when the population was planned to be 6.9m and 10.0m. quite a large crowd, which meant it was a serious issue.

    so much so pap backed down, saying 6.9m and 10.0m are planning parameters only.

    we knew pap was lying. because if truly for planning purposes only, the numbers should have been 3.9m and not 6.9m and 10.0m.

    3.9m?

    Yes.

    3.m local born + 0.5m PRs + 10% of 3m = 3.9m (the maths here is a bit out since we are dealing with pap numbers so cannot be exact).

    after all, which nation has more aliens than local born? pap PA paid IBs cite all the arab states. hahaha. very sly. because not true. the arab states make it clear arabs rein.

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  • xoxo:

    I tell you its all a big bullcrap,this CECA piece of indian cowdung.
    What exactly are the benefits for SGS at alarge,the common citizens of Sg?

    It benefits ba$ically TH’s DBS BANK.
    This Damn Blardy Stupid Bank is India’s MOST PREFERRED FOREIGN bank*?
    So what?
    Of what use is this to you and me and that toilet aunty?

    ALL FOR A SMALL TITLE?
    IS THIS HOW THEY SIGN FTAs?

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  • Kena Played:

    Whoever drafted CECA from India was thorough, smart, trap the fool, naive and inexperienced. And they have create jobs for their people by giving them a free ride.

    Whoever signed CECA was not thorough, not smart, kena played, made a fool, super naive and truely inexperienced. And they have taken their people for a ride.

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  • Singaporeahseng:

    Dear Mr Foong, thank you for alerting us to the real facts on Article 9.3.3 .

    “Let me quote Article 9.3.3: “Neither Party shall require labour market testing, economic needs testing or other procedures of similar effects as a condition for temporary entry in respect of natural persons upon whom the benefits of this Chapter are conferred.”

    Economic needs testing basically means the employer must ensure that there are no suitable locals before employing a foreigner, hence, MOM’s Fair Consideration Framework. But Indians are exempted.”

    This Article 9.3.3 must be rescinded as it is unfair and dishonest. The Consequence had already being felt the last 10 years. Mr Lee needs to terminate it immediately if he really cares for Singaporeans.

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  • Asd:

    I think ceca brought in dirty habits and on verge of disrupting peace and harmony

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  • Asd:

    I think no provision for this one race is racist

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  • uselesstankinl:

    ALL COMING HERE TO WORK MUST BE PAY CPF BOTH WAYS.

    NO 2 WAY ABOUT IT.

    CRY MAHATHIR CRY MAMA, ITS ENSHINED IN LAW.

    MALAYSIAN GOV ASKING FOR MONEY FROM PPL WORKING CAN GO ” F” THEMSELVES….PERIOD.

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  • Temusik Patriot:

    A few years back on my back in a bus after visitng IMM in Jurong…4 men,a Filipino & 3 Indians FT colleagues after lunch returning to their office…topic was “citizenship”…they joke in “derogotory” terms offer of citizenship as “begging to take our ‘cheep citizenship’”…one of them laugh and said when its time to go home he will sell his HDB for a good profit and live very comfortably amongst their “OWN”…all paid for by ‘idiots’

    How??? Bloody stoopid idiots we are in their eyes

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  • opposition dude:

    The issue is simple really without talking too much and here it is.

    The governments of both nations focus on certain sectors and allow these people to come in to fill them. Unfortunately, too many are let in and we have certain sectors full of them which naturally gives rise to the impression that there are too many of them on the island.

    And it isn’t helping when you see them everywhere be it in shopping centres or on public transport. So all that nonsense about granting passes is just bullshit since Foong Swee Yong aleady states the obvious when thes people are already on the island working.

    Lastly with PAP’s refusal to answer PSP’s question on the number of these buggers in certain sectors it tells us that PAP knows the numbers are far too many which is why they have to talk cock about FTAs being beneficial, that these people aren’t let in any old how and all that cock.

    But PSP is standing firm though so let’s see what other tough questions will be asked at the next parliament sitting.

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  • Reality:

    Reality is on the ground.
    Find out what really happen and make correct judgement.
    Some EP is obviously suspected ,yet is is approved.
    Red flag when related EPs are working in the same company.
    Worse when the qualifications does not justify the salary given,Such jobs can be easily done by locals if given such high pay.
    MOM need to do more…

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  • DeBarge:

    When what people witness everyday is at odds with what the government tells them there will be a pervasive distrust of the authorities which isn’t good for the country. Whatever economic model we choose it must benefit Singaporeans.

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  • Uselesstankl:

    MOM & PAP Has created a MONSTER call ” low wages” so that MNC can ” EXPLOIT”

    MANY THOUSANDS SINKIE NOT MARRIED BECAUSED OF THIS !!!

    Malaysian chinese are ” PREFERRED” over locals, and local minority with middle to higher status has no choice but to intermarry so that their children stand a better chance in life !!!

    ALL THIS WHILE, PAP CROYNIS PAY THEMSELVES BONUSES UPON BONUSES !!!

    LOOK NO FURTHER THAN HOCHING,SMRT SAW, KHAW,ETC ETC

    Sinkies are the STUPID ONES BECAUSED OF MAJORITY.

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  • Observer:

    How about giving more business opportunities to Singaporean businessmen who give fair consideration to hiring Singaporean managers?

    Are you sure India is just as open to foreigners coming for businesses? See their behaviour here? https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/hitlers-hindus-indias-nazi-loving-nationalists-on-the-rise-1.5628532

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  • Tiger's Eye:

    @Observer – What has that article got to do with business or hiring. Waste of time.

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  • leeconyou:

    no provision just provide, 3 years to nego such one way agreement better stroke dun wake up! but 60% still vote for them so count on more ahneh for singapore….

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