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What price (deaths) are we willing to pay?

Barely a month into “endemic living”, we are seeing a spike in infections, a spike in deaths, we have to bring in the SAF, have to bring in the People’s Association, hospitals are strained, hospitalisations have surged, we are effectively in a lockdown again, school kids are sent home and now HBL is extended by another week, WFH is again the default, and the support service for those on home quarantine is in a mess.

And now we “will start activating plans to handle 5,000 cases a day… (so) that we don’t get overrun by the virus”, because we did not expect the infections to spread so quickly.

The Straits Times reports:

“The eventual aim is for cases to hit a peak and then slowly decline as they reach a new equilibrium.

“We may seem like we are trailing some European countries, which are or have reopened and are living lives quite normally,” Mr Ong Ye Kung said. “But remember – they paid a huge price in human lives, mostly last year, which we will do whatever we can to minimise.”

So the question is: what price (deaths) are we willing to pay?

73 people have died so far.

 

Andrew Loh

 

 

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35 Responses to “What price (deaths) are we willing to pay?”

  • Fire:

    Hong Kong is reporting 4 new infections on average each day, 3% of the peak — the highest daily average reported on July 30.

    There have been 12,186 infections and 213 coronavirus-related deaths reported in the country since the pandemic began.

    Daily reported trends.

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  • opposition dude:

    They say the magic 3200 number but they can’t do it. 1000+ for a few days liao and the hospitals are running out of beds for patients. I have no idea how many more thousands of cases will be reported daily nor for the duration but the hospitals will be overrun sooner rather than later.

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  • Saitung:

    MTF needs 5 years or more then can wake up idea.this is what I think.//Everyone good luck.

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  • Fire:

    “Unfortunately we have already seen some pregnant women in hospital and in the ICU (due to COVID-19 infection). We do not wish to see many more such cases here.”

    Tech: So sad indeed, the fetus would have to be aborted.

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  • xoxo:

    Pui,pui,pui!
    This blardy idiot thinks he is PM material?
    To me,he is not even fit for minister post.
    How did he get so high up.
    Bootlicking ,me guess.

    There are more qualified sgs,even among his PAP FOLD,who are more qualified!

    If i were CEO,i would make him kopi boy at most.
    Else,i send this blardy clown to CLEAN TOILETS!

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  • xoxo:

    Maybe,he shud be counted among those who fied unnecessarily.
    That would reduce further damage.

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  • To the clowns at MTF, be it 73, 730, 7500 or maybe even 73000, they are mere digits. Unless it is one of their own, then and maybe then they will be more careful with their bull of a shit.

    Whatever, it is already too late for Sinkieland, so just brace yourself for more injuries and death and then pray very hard that the C19 don’t bite you or someone you love.

    God bless Sinkies.

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  • Michael:

    The reasons why the infection can spread is because the vaccine
    messed up the immune system of the people ..
    Those with natural immunity have no issues with delta virus …

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  • useless pap:

    So the question is: what price (deaths) are we willing to pay?

    Just close the border.

    No virus can come in.

    pap says rising local infections.

    but all of them are aliens PRs ceca ah nehs.

    has a local born really contracted virus? after all, virus comes from the outside. it did not originate inside. so those infected or died cannot be local born. must be the aliens PRs ceca ah nehs.

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  • xoxo:

    Said this on TRE before,months ago.
    More ha$te ,less $peed is still a valid wisdom in this hurried world n especially for $in City,a LITTLE red DOT?

    ENDEMIC IS NOT A STILL DYNAMIC N EVOLVING PANDENIC.
    If you treat it so,you get PANIC.
    Understand,you stupid?

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  • smartie:

    Let me tell you the magic number that will be reached before everything went back to normal. It is not rocket-science or need genius to think of that number. Sure the Holier-Than-Whites will agree.

    What magic number ?

    It is the population number , now currently at almost 6 millions.
    Once the whole population are infected with corona, no longer do we need to wear mask and quarantine , and life can continue as normal as pre-covid (just don’t die). Kudo to the White for solving the corona issue. If we can’t defeat corona, we coexist with them… Alpha, Beta, Delta, Mu or whatever shit virus, we welcome you to live with us because we are not virus-racist.

    Law will be passed by the PAP MPs by aya-ing to prevent discrimination against corona, and approved experts will appear in news media to convince why living with corona is good for you because it is better to have friend than enemy, and the enemy can only make you strong and better. Singapore will be first country to sign CECA (Corona Entourage Co-exist Agreement) to have corona officially living in any of us, and we will be envy of the world.

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  • snap election please:

    Should have a snap election please.

    Before all eligible and not yet eligible voters all died.

    If 36 months is all we can live, then 2025 for next election is too long away.

    61% may never ever gonna vote again.

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  • Realistically:

    @ Andrew Loh

    >>So the question is: what price (deaths) are we willing to pay?

    73 people have died so far.<<

    Eh Andrew (& others of similar traits)……..which cave have yon been hiding from all this while & I mean over the last 35 years?

    U still in denial about the PAPie's ethos: YOU DIE YOUR BUSINESS/

    Same with the wayang-party MPs …..Pritam Singh is more interested in his wayanging and detracting from the epic failures of the emperor without clothes regime's mismanagement of the COVID-19 pandemic with Pritam's diversion to talk about the Mayors' salaries amounting in total to 0.003% of the 2020 Budget while his fellow wayang-party MP, He Ting Ru wayanging about gender equality forgetting that both women in the form of Ho Ching and Halimah Yacob are already MORE EQUAL than her equality call…………..NOTHING, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with sinkies who die PREVENTABLE deaths; sufferings, miseries, small business closing etc etc etc while the wayang-party MPs joining the PAPie MPs in luxuriating on their $16k monthly MP allowances………..and for Ministers and top civil servants, their out of world multi-million $ salaries………….for their epic failures costing sinkies' lives and multi-billion hit to the economy.

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  • Realistically:

    @ Andrew Loh

    Forgot to add that more preventable deaths await sinkies………….the wayang-party MPs have blood on their hands as “CO-DRIVERS” of the emperor without clothes and their MPs like Pritam Singh, who is also LO, wayanging about the majors’ pay amounting to 0.003% of the Budget and He Ting Ru farce about gender equality………..nothing to do with the epic mismanagement of the COVID-19 pandemic……….causing many preventable deaths, sufferings etc and damage to the economy…….while the wayang-party MPs join their PAPie counterparts in luxuriating in their $16k monthly MP allowances………..guaranteed until the next GE.

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  • Community Care Facilities:

    Better to quickly activate the Community Care facilities at Expo,Changi Exhibition or any other big complexes to cope with the fast rising numbers.
    Not many homes are suitable for recovery. Will only spread to more family members.
    Need to reduce the numbers of infection and deaths…

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  • 4G CMI, SG dies:

    Andrew Loh, you together with others who kept pushing people to go for the vaccination jabs are no better than the MTF clowns.

    If not for having achieved such a high vaccination rate at such a short time, those MTF clowns would not have been so complacent and arrogantly carried on with the NDP and opened up the borders at such fast pace that resulted in such chaotic situation now.

    Every human deserves to live regardless of his health condition. Don’t tell us that those elderly with underlying health issues will die sooner or later, so it makes no difference for them to die sooner from covid infection. No one deserves to die.

    What are doctors for? What’s the hospital for? What’s the duty of the health minister? They’re to save life! We’re a first world country, not a third world with poor healthcare service. If our healthcare people told us to expect more death instead of doing everything possible to prevent life loss, they’ve FAILED completely and should be utterly ashamed of themselves!

    Singaporeans have paid a wrong price for the wrong people and a wrong govt!

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  • Smart Nation:

    Michael:
    The reasons why the infection can spread is because the vaccine
    messed up the immune system of the people ..
    Those with natural immunity have no issues with delta virus …

    You could be right. The vaccine may have something to do with the spike in new cases. Is it giving all the positive test results as “breakthrough” infections? Israel and SG are among the two highest vaccinated countries and experiencing the same phenomenon.

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  • Smart Nation:

    I fear this island might be used as an experimental lab to try out the mRNA vaccine on a specific population, or why are they pushing for the 3rd jab after 2 jabs have failed to give full protection? Did the govt enter into an agreement with the manufacturer to use the population for further experimentation with this new technology?

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  • Loss is inevitable in war:

    What are doctors for?

    Doctors are not god, there are just so much they can do!

    Hospitals are not heaven where people will live forever, there are still a section in the hospitals known as mortuary!

    To deal with the virus is akin to fighting a war when loss is inevitable!

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  • DIC.:

    Their the mtf r looking at their own DIC.

    For words!to use for the on going uncontrollable spread.By busy looking at their
    OWN DIC.the spread will not spread anymore!

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  • PPE.:

    Mtf includes burial and graves Digging.i think.multi task what!

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  • Jabber:

    Smart Nation: You could be right. The vaccine may have something to do with the spike in new cases. Is it giving all the positive test results as “breakthrough” infections? Israel and SG are among the two highest vaccinated countries and experiencing the same phenomenon.

    Israel is already on its 4th jab.

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  • Heatbeats:

    Problem is European cities are not as densely populated as Singapore. The population is small and none of them are like our which is a mega city

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  • Awakening:

    Mtf just don’t want to say lock down.because our admin cannot afford to help out any lock down!so much so asking citizen to live with it what an idiot!

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  • Ck Ng:

    I’m not anti-vax but I don’t like the way Govt is pushing only the mRNA vax and not giving people a choice of other approved traditional vaccines for Emergency use by WHO.

    If not for my 90s aunt (living in HK) who is in ill health and Wishing to see me, I will not take the vaccine. I’m in my late 50s, move around a far bit in my job and I try to take the necessary precaution. Taking Vit D and C, keepin hydrated and enough sleep is my only weapon now as I’m in Q for my Sinopham jab in Nov.

    To All of you here, please take care and stay safe! We need to be alive to vote in the next election!

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  • Rubik's Cube:

    Just ask yourself these questions.

    What is endemic ?

    The term endemic refers to diseases that are constantly present within a population, with infection rates maintained at a predictable rate.

    What is living with the C19 endemic ?

    It means easing up or opening fully the economy and living lives normally in the midst of C19 infections with losened or unrestrictive social and economic norms.

    Why do you think that Singapore must ease or open up her economy into endemic from pandemic ?

    It is all about SIA ( Singapore Airlines )

    Why SIA ?

    It is the precious baby of LKY.

    It is perfectly alright for other mega enterprise like Hyflux to fail.

    But not SIA.

    JEWEL Changi Airport costing $1.7b will be just a nice tombstone for SIA if it fails.

    What about SIA ?

    Singapore Airlines uses up last $600m of $8.8b from 2020 rights issue.

    Deep down inside, Singapore is dead worried and very desperate to not let SIA go belly up.

    Opening up our border and economy is the surest way in the hope for its survival.

    Full speed ahead, cannot wait any further. The sooner the better.

    What about YOU and ME ?

    We will sacrifice our lives at all costs to breathe life back into SIA.

    SIA is BIGGER than all of us.

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  • Excuses after execuses:

    “don’t say I never say infecfions can surge to 3000″

    “don’t say I never tell you get vaccinated”

    “don’t say I ever hint you it could reach 5000 as 5000 beds are planned for it”

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  • bromet:

    ” Jabber:
    September 26, 2021 at 8:39 am (Quote)

    Smart Nation: You could be right. The vaccine may have something to do with the spike in new cases. Is it giving all the positive test results as “breakthrough” infections? Israel and SG are among the two highest vaccinated countries and experiencing the same phenomenon.

    Israel is already on its 4th jab.

    Israel is God’s chosen people and unlikely to lose. What is SINgapore ? We are SINners which perhaps deserve this government and mess they created.

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  • Realistically:

    >>What is endemic ?

    The term endemic refers to diseases that are constantly present within a population, with infection rates maintained at a predictable rate.

    What is living with the C19 endemic ?……<<

    The person posting the above as quoted, has very little critical thinking skill, much like the siow char bor who I believe is Ho Ching herself.

    B4 idiots and incompetent multi-million ones with the above superficial kind of thinking bases the COVID-19 policies, the emperor without clothes regime should think FIRST AND FOREMOST, the basis of the so called living with the COVID-19 PANDEMIC as if it was like the influenza "ENDEMIC".

    The SINKaPOOR's own EXPERT in the person of Prof Leo Yee Sin of the National Centre of Infectious Disease has said in an ST interview that the SARS-COV-2 virus underlying the COVID-19 pandemic is very much DIFFERENT from the influenza virus.

    The EWCR and the wayang-party MPs must be held accountable for the PREVENTABLE DEATHS, miseries, sufferings etc of sinkies and the damage to the eco

    I hv said many times b4 on TRE and also TOC, a better outcome in the management of the COVID-19 pandemic could be achieved at a LOWER COST – both in terms of the damage to the economy (and that includes SIA & related businesses) AS WELL AS less sufferings and miseries to sinkies………….if the emperor without clothes regime (EWCR) use COMMON SENSE more.

    Since LAST YEAR, I hv said that the so called circuit breaker first implemented last year should not have required all (or almost all) businesses to cease operation……pointing to the inconvenience and other preventable hardships of sinkies and the economy by mandating that SUNDRY shops be closed………….when there was/is more chance of a person being infected by the SARS-COV-2 virus in supermarkets than in the sundry shops……………….but the EWCR refused to listen.

    Around May LAST year, I had suggested that ventilation be improved at certain locations with significant presence of people……………but the EWCR , only followed my suggestion ONE YEAR LATER………….

    Currently, the EWCR advises that those people especially, the elderly should refrain from going to public places where there are many people and to be properly masked………………I hv been practising this since the beginning of the outbreak in late January 2020 when the emperor without clothes himself had said that a person without the COVID-19 symptoms should not wear face mask as it would not protect the healthy wearer and for him to spread the virus………….which turned out to be totally WRONG……

    The Delta variant of the virus is acknowledged by all specialists to be more transmissible and lethal than the original Wuhan variant, and YET the EWCR refused to require hospitals/polyclinics, supermarkets, malls etc to increase the safe distancing from 1 metre – which was already very low – to say 2-3 metres…………simple common sense measure which escaped the so-called "elites"

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  • Billy ma:

    PAP claimed all credits when the situation was sort of under control.
    It’s all due to PAP, declared PAP.
    The checks for great performance bonus were prepared & ready to be cashed.

    Then PAP took the eyes off the ball by not checking out entrance points.
    Of course, PAP quickly placed the entire blame on ktv, then the fishing port.

    Now that the fire is spreading, PAP wants the country to believe that it’s Singaporeans fault.
    PAP angrily tell off Singaporeans for being too competence for this round of huge infection.

    With this blame cleverly sold by PAP & its cronies, PAP is relax while Singaporeans go into this nonsensical ‘stabilisation phase’.

    All that were done so far don’t need $$millions millions salaried to come out with.

    Anyone with a bag of commonsense can easily come out with these & more.

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  • xoxo:

    How come imported cases are now near zero?
    And,local cases almost breaches 2K?
    GUESS LEE AH LONG’S FAVE FTs are afraid to come here for fear of infection?

    Hey,come on,bring more FTs here lah.
    We need to INTEGRATE with them?

    The current situation has been forewarned by many sgs of humbler origin.
    But so-called scholars think otherwise.

    HOW CLEVER?
    looks so idiotic.

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  • xoxo:

    Can anyone deny that this pandemic has made the Rich n Powerful richer and more powerful?
    WHY?

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  • Realistically:

    As for living with the SARS-CoV-2 virus causing the COVID-19 pandemic in the same manner as the influenza endemic, I HAD already warned that it was totally WRONG to do so AT THE TIME the 3 co-chairs of the MMTF wrote in the 160th ranked ST …………I am recently proven RIGHT by Professor Leo Yee Sin of SINKaPOOR’s National Centre for Infectious Disease.

    As for articles like the one in the TODAY on-line newspaper at

    https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/explainer-where-singapore-stands-its-fight-against-covid-19-and-why-mindset-shift-needed

    Explainer: Where Singapore stands in its fight against Covid-19 and why a mindset shift is needed

    I CONDEMN such irresponsible “prostitute” type journalism trying to lessen the responsibility for the epic mismanagement of the COVID-19 pandemic by the emperor without clothes regime (EWCR)…………..the said piece, as with others of the same nature, steadfastly refused to give any account as to the much much lower new cases of the COVID-19 in TAIWAN……………….whereas SINKaPOOR reported more than 1900 cases and 2 deaths, Taiwan reported only 5 new cases…………even on a 2 week basis, Taiwan reported around 5 new cases per day with the max of 12 (from memory) and very few cases of deaths…….WHY so?

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  • Sinkieland is now the initial Wuhan, with the health authorities headed by a bunch of clueless and arrogant idiots.

    With infection rates climbing and daily death, how long can Sinkies take this incompetence literally lying down?

    Never thought I would say this, but I think it is time to sack the ENTIRE bunch of clowns at MTF, including the so-called C19 experts’ committee.

    Anyone disagree?

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  • Doctors Should Do No Harm:

    Loss is inevitable in war:
    What are doctors for?
    Doctors are not god, there are just so much they can do!

    Hospitals are not heaven where people will live forever, there are still a section in the hospitals known as mortuary!

    To deal with the virus is akin to fighting a war when loss is inevitable!

    Doctors should do no harm to patient. There should be a physician-patient relationship in which allows patients to be an active participant their health. Physicians are being prevented from providing treatment to their patients, as a result of barriers put up by pharmacies, hospitals, and public health agencies.

    I have history of hypertension for nearly 40 years. Doctors at polyclinic have often find reasons to increase my medication dosage. However, I was shock that the doctor at the mobile vaccination center actually praised my hypertension record in the system, assuring me that it’s okay to take the jab. I believe on other occasions, she would be like other doctors, complaining about my elevated blood pressure.

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