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No basis to claim vaccination protects from serious illness and death

In SG context, it is truly doubtful that the public narrative of vaccination protects you from serious illness and death is true.

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As I have explained, it is flawed to just make comparison between vac and unvax groups because the decision on whether to Vax or not might have inherently made the groups bias. Those with weaker immune system may choose not to Vax and thus, making the group more prone to serious illness or death.

Thus the correct analysis should be made on the overall death rate or hospitalization rates between pre vaccination period vs post vaccination period.

If vaccine really works, it should reduce the overall death rate, especially when we have high vaccination rate in SG. BUT in contrary, the reverse is true.

Thus, there is absolutely no basis to claim vaccination reduce death or protect us from death. Both absolute death numbers and rate have increased.

 

Goh Meng Seng

 

 

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28 Responses to “No basis to claim vaccination protects from serious illness and death”

  • Fire:

    This guy is such a nuisance.
    Read below.

    Singapore and South Korea have agreed to launch Vaccinated Travel Lanes (VTLs) between the two countries, starting from 15 November.

    Both [ Singapore and the Republic of Korea have made excellent progress in vaccinating our populations] and the VTLs reflect the trust both countries have in each other’s ability to manage the COVID-19 situation,

    Tech: And I thought only Sinkies are daft, but now it appears the Koreans are worse, bordering on idiotic. “trust both countries have in each other’s ability to manage the COVID-19 situation”, at 3000+ cases a day is call “manage”? Bloody hell, my toes laughed until cramped.

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  • Harder Truths:

    They are NOT vaccines. Get that right. The first thing people must do is use the right terms so people are not mislead. These are Phase III trial drugs used for lab experimentation, not even good enough for human testing, but given to people anyway.

    No one knows the outcome of whether these drugs do anything positive or not. We are years away from a real vaccine. The mRNA technology is experimental. It has been found natural antibodies are much better than these trial drugs.

    If you could die from CoVID when unvaccinated, then you have a lesser chance of survival after vaccination as you are unable to produce real antibodies. So being vaccinated means nothing for those that may die or those that would still live.

    The only people who benefit from your pain and suffering are the drug companies and the regime. Now that 85% of $G are vaccinated let’s see how many end up with long-term illnesses caused by the vaccination.

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  • xoxo:

    The claim is invalid as real life incidents have shown.
    Clinging to such false claims is irresponsible of govt .

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  • Spineless Sinkie Syndrome:

    Just THINK:
    If its true that more than 80% are already jabbed, it actually implies that almost 90% of ADULTS here are already jabbed, since those who are below 12 years old (which are not jabbed yet) constitute about 7% of our entire resident population within Sinkie island.

    This means that, for statistical intents & purposes, we can say practically all ADULTS & teenagers here are already jabbed, yes?

    Yet, even with almost 90% ADULTS + Teenagers ALL jabbed, COVID is still SPREADING like wildfire, and we still cannot achieve “herd immunity” nor “get back to life as normal”, Yes?

    Now, do you think EVEN IF WE SOMEHOW GET TO 100% jabbed, is it going to make a significant difference in the number of cases and deaths from what we see now??
    If you said NO, I would agree with you too.

    So, in conclusion, WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU ABOUT THE EFFICIACY OF THE (mRNA) jabs?? LOL.

    Basically, USELESS in the short-term (since it did NOT suppress the spike in cases & deaths) and USELESS in the long-term (since its efficacy will definitely drop off within 6 months).

    Yet, the goons still want to PUSH for 3rd booster jabs? LOL.

    Hokkien saying this entire (mRNA) jab exercise is now LPPL, yes? LOL.

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  • Harder Truths:

    High Recorded Mortality in Countries Categorized as “Covid-19 Vaccine Champions.” The Vaccinated Suffer from Increased Risk of Mortality compared to the Non-vaccinated

    https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2021/10/08/high-recorded-mortality-in-countries-categorized-as-covid-19-vaccine-champions-the-vaccinated-suffer-from-increased-risk-of-mortality-compared-to-the-non-vaccinated/

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  • Fire:

    This is too much.
    Issue podma to them.

    Taiwan’s Delta-positive pilot likely contracted virus in Singapore
    CECC says Delta variant contracted by pilot genetically closest to infections in Singapore

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  • Fire:

    This is too much.
    Issue podma to them.

    Taiwan’s Delta-positive pilot likely contracted virus in Singapore
    CECC says Delta variant contracted by pilot genetically closest to infections in Singapore

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  • MarBowling:

    Harder Truths:
    October 9, 2021 at 1:38 am (Quote)
    High Recorded Mortality in Countries Categorized as “Covid-19 Vaccine Champions.” The Vaccinated Suffer from Increased Risk of Mortality compared to the Non-vaccinated

    https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2021/10/08/high-recorded-mortality-in-countries-categorized-as-covid-19-vaccine-champions-the-vaccinated-suffer-from-increased-risk-of-mortality-compared-to-the-non-vaccinated/

    Response: Great info! Now pharmaceutical company, NO MERCY oops MERCK, the ORIGINAL producer of Ivermectin which India has administered to their folks at a cost of a few $dollars, has successfully BROUGHT DOWN the previously DAILY HIGH INFECTION CASES from their tens of thousands to only few hundreds cases! ONE THING $MART about this HAVE MERCY company, is that unlike Pfizer and MODERNA which on the ONSET HAVE CLAIMED more than 90% EFFICACY in their Holee Vaccines in their FIGHT AGAINST Covid19 INFECTION, this Holee Company only CLAIMS 50% AGAINST HOSPITALIZATION AND DEATH! Anyway, they also advised that VACCINATION and TESTING is STILL REQUIRED! That means at the end of the day, the chances of any INFECTED folk returning their NRIC EARLIER THAN EXPECTED is REDUCED BY 50%! So basically all these 3 Western pharmaceutical companies are SAYING IS THIS:IF KENNA INFECTED, YOUR CHANCE OF DYING IS GREATLY REDUCED IF YOU HAVE EARLIER TAKEN OUR VACCINES AND DRUG(Molnupuravir)! HOWEVER, WE ARE UNABLE TO TELL YOU THE SAFETY AND LOONG TERM SIDE EFFECTS OF THESE VACCINES AND DRUG AND WE ARE UNABLE TO UNDERTAKE ANY LIABILITY OR RESPONSIBILITY OF ANY ADVERSE OR FATAL EFFECTS OF THESE VACCINES AND DRUG. YOUR HOLEE COVERMENT HAS VOLUNTEERED TO UNDERTAKE THAT!

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  • Mindset had to be changed:

    WAO!

    Galant Saja?

    Sooner or later, more and more countries and regions will establish the exact same VTL with Sinkiland, what would people of these countries and regions be known as? Idiots x 100000 times?

    It looks like mainland China would also embrace the “live with the virus “ approach eventually , Wood Hunt might then not be the safe heaven any more, every one on earth will have to live with the virus by then!

    Mind set has to be changed, 3000+ a day is just sub sub water when chances of becoming angels is only 0.2%, take it easy, human is not immortal, nothing can be perfect, nothing is foolproof and human will just have to live with it!

    Fire:
    This guy is such a nuisance.
    Read below.

    Tech: And I thought only Sinkies are daft, but now it appears the Koreans are worse, bordering on idiotic. “trust both countries have in each other’s ability to manage the COVID-19 situation”, at 3000+ cases a day is call “manage”? Bloody hell, my toes laughed until cramped.

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  • SGs Deserve Better:

    Millions of people the globe over became unwitting lab rats for these pharmaceutical companies…
    Thousands have passed on after getting the jab and thousands more suffering health issues like heart problems and diabetes..after effects of the vaccines.
    No compensations will be paid out..cuz there is a clause that absolves these pharma cos from responsibility ..yet these pharma corps are laughing all the way to the bank…having made huge profits by distributing vaccines that werent even proven safe..
    Our country leaders share the same blame…pm kept saying on media, that its completely safe and urging ppl to go for it…at times even seemed to be scaring the population to get vaxed…esp our elders..
    Sorry state we are in now..

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  • opposition dude:

    They will point out that Israel also has a similar situation with a highly vaccinated population. But let’s not lie to ourselves here, vaccination won’t help much if you are a senior citizen with multiple underlying illnesses. Even worse if you are in your 80s and above.

    Practically all seniors who have passed on from the virus had some forms of underlying illnesses and the number who were fully vaccinated is around half or so. the stupid government should be focusing all their efforts to get seniors to vaccinate instead of wasting time making the younger generations to pay for those swab tests, the younger generations aren’t at so great a risj from being killed by the virus.

    As usual, brain dead PAP lacking simple basic common sense. They still have the thinking that unvaccinated people are the only ones who can spread the virus. Bloody bodohs!

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  • oxygen:

    THE BREAKTHROUGH INFECTIONS of fully vaccinated that erupted in that underground POGO gold mine, Alaska, more than 12 months ago is compelling evidence known to science and decision-makers that vaccine DON’T WORK contrary to wildly mistaken excitement/expectation.

    YET GOVTS GLOBALLY WENT HEADSTRONG ON ACCELERATED DRIVE at mass inoculation following the Israeli hallmark example of trusting Big Pharma wild untested claim of their respective vaccine’s efficacy.

    Now the ghosts of lies and public mass deception is haunting all – in rampaging breakthrough infection and escalating mortality of the fully vaccinated, and in Sinkieland, the rate of infection ran amok in the opposite direction of population vaccination saturation achievement.A fertile field of germination of disaster inevitable is in growth cultivation now.

    AND IN THESE STAGGERING ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE refuting vaccines and Big pharma’s claimed efficacy, Big Pharma and political cows ALL HID behind a curtain of silence, REFUSING TO EXPLAIN TO FRIGHTENED PEASANTS who trusted them.

    It is scary to read these revelations

    :The efficacy of all available vaccines combined is as low as – 85.71% within the 40-49 age group, and as high as – 3.4% in the 30-39 age group. This shows that the Covid-19 vaccines are making people more susceptible to catching Covid-19, rather than preventing cases of Covid-19 by the claimed 95%…..

    The new UK Health Security Agency report proves without a shadow of a doubt that the Covid-19 vaccines do not work, and actually make the recipients worse.

    British Government Study PROVES COVID-19 Vaccines DO NOT WORK – Actually Make Recipients WORSE!

    https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/british-government-study-proves-covid-19-vaccines-do-not-work-actually-make-recipients-worse

    And if the above is not enough to scarce those still willing or worst still, CLINGING TO DESPERATE FALSE HOPES IN VACCINE, to listen to ever-lying Big Pharmas and political cows, here is a bombshell re-assurance from Dr. A. Fauci – the protector/defender of public health preservation, no less.

    Anthony Fauci:There comes a time when you do have to give up what you consider your individual right of making your own decision for the greater good of society

    The last frontier of defence has turned vaccine science into the art and formenter of hysteria of public urging in ghostly transformation?

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/the-cost-and-irritation-of-abandoning-common-sense-in-dealing-with-covid_4031645.html?utm_source=partner&utm_campaign=ZeroHedge

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  • oxygen:

    @ Spineless Sinkie Syndrome:

    EXACTLY my same sentiments found in my aforementioned post comments.

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  • PROTEST!!!
    unvaxx are TOTALLY OUTCAST ?!!!
    not even makaning at open Arreated
    coffee shops
    hawker centers

    WTF x 10000!!!

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  • Soccerbetting2:

    Stated above :Quote-”No basis to claim vaccination protects from serious illness and death…”Unquote.

    Response : Having taken moderna vaccine twice, my understanding of moderna vaccine is as follows .First dose give a very good cooling feeling down the chest at the time of injection lasting some hours.At injection time ,only feel ant bite and not much pain.Don’t understand why those tik tok video of probably some malaysian man and taiwan woman screaming like they are being injected with hell ? So after return home and rested for a few hours,wake up and find injected arm got swollen and pain come out for a few days.Got fever but take panadol,fever subside.Second dose few weeks later on different arm seem more painful on arm .Don’t know why .Overall,I do feel moderna vaccination do offer a little bit of protection against corona virus but to consider vaccination as a mean from serious illness is not proven that moderna vaccine is 100 % effective against all virus strains ! So it also means all those vaccinated tourist coming to Singapore can still spread the virus to vaccinated people !

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  • reality check:

    Good to do a review of the whole Covid situation and the effectiveness of various Vaccines.
    Sometimes reality and truth hurts..
    We many have been on the wrong course…or on wrong assumption.

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  • Learning time:

    Some people lies as they take short cuts will never care about the learning process and no amount of textbooks or explanations. As most of fake results are fabricated since young like Certs and artificial confidence from fake praise from “luxury corruption”.

    The war is between the ruling class who can create money against those who get rich from their parents generations. Working class see many companies close down as their grandchildren of fiat cartel has taken over and to ensure a successful inheritance of power to create money, all who funded free and open monetary system who are rich Billionaires are destroyed by Operation lock step. This is how Titanic kill the American tycoons and Titanic is the early version of 911 of New York mafia. Globalist afraid of countries losing control and reimpose vaccine passport to restore Old World Order by the same cult who do bioweapon R&D since WW1 till now openly and secretly through infinity black budgets. 911 and the missing trillions are peanuts. Even numbers within 36 digits is not sufficient to run the world and they have many points of distributing token numbers as money to rule all those who have none.

    Covid plan will not end when the system that create money out of nothing is still accepted and rejection is not to those who print but all those benefit from wars of covid of this fake #plandemic. Military arms sales is boosted by death. If there are no death, what is the values of military bioweapon sellers?

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  • Learning time:

    Spineless Sinkie Syndrome:
    Just THINK:
    If its true that more than 80% are already jabbed, it actually implies that almost 90% of ADULTS here are already jabbed, since those who are below 12 years old (which are not jabbed yet) constitute about 7% of our entire resident population within Sinkie island.

    This means that, for statistical intents & purposes, we can say practically all ADULTS & teenagers here are already jabbed, yes?

    Yet, even with almost 90% ADULTS + Teenagers ALL jabbed, COVID is still SPREADING like wildfire, and we still cannot achieve “herd immunity” nor “get back to life as normal”, Yes?

    Now, do you think EVEN IF WE SOMEHOW GET TO 100% jabbed, is it going to make a significant difference in the number of cases and deaths from what we see now??
    If you said NO, I would agree with you too.

    So, in conclusion, WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU ABOUT THE EFFICIACY OF THE (mRNA) jabs?? LOL.

    Basically, USELESS in the short-term (since it did NOT suppress the spike in cases & deaths) and USELESS in the long-term (since its efficacy will definitely drop off within 6 months).

    Yet, the goons still want to PUSH for 3rd booster jabs? LOL.

    Hokkien saying this entire (mRNA) jab exercise is now LPPL, yes? LOL.

    Those involved are Flat Earth ppl who failed both maths and logical function in engineering or constructive works. Their job is distribute the money that bind altogether as instructed by the Big Brother. Do not follow the sense of Science, they are just coup from Trump using fake CDC narratives illegally and create illegal law and mandate. All Judges and bar of Laws complies as they are same as all workers who cannot change everything overnight or through single decision. It is globalist threat when they monopolise the monetary systems and military power.

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  • Wonder Drug:

    But one fellow said,…”the booster shot makes a vaccinated 80-year-old look like a much younger vaccinated 50-plus old” leh.

    Then what happen to the 50-year-old fellow? 30+?

    Will children 12-year-old becomes baby again? Whoa, all rejuvenate medical labs can close shop.

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  • Fire:

    More boosters ahead?
    Further booster shots may also be required as long as larger portions of the population remain unvaccinated and new variants continue to develop through uncontrolled community spread of the disease

    Wonder Drug:
    But one fellow said,…”the booster shot makes a vaccinated 80-year-old look like a much younger vaccinated 50-plus old” leh.

    Then what happen to the 50-year-old fellow? 30+?

    Will children 12-year-old becomes baby again? Whoa, all rejuvenate medical labs can close shop.

    .

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  • Realistically:

    Get the facts @

    https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/singapore

    Singapore: Coronavirus Pandemic Profile

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  • Harder Truths:

    @oxygen @MarBowling

    Bros, Pfzir’s own testing has shown the drug does nothing to stop CoVID mortality

    To wit ‘…the research showed little difference in mortality between those in the trial with a vaccine and those given a placebo.”

    “..(Dr) Alex Berenson (on Twitter) The pivotal clinical trial for the @pfizer #Covid vaccine shows it does nothing to reduce the overall risk of death. ZERO. 15 patients who received the vaccine died. 14 patients who received the placebo died. The end. The trial blind is broken now. This is all the data we will ever have…”

    https://jonathanturley.org/2021/07/31/twitter-suspends-science-writer-after-he-posts-results-of-pfizer-clinical-test/

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  • Harder Truths:

    @oxygen @MarBowling

    Bros, the fact about Pfzir affecting mortality is a big fat lie. It does nothing to stop anyone dying of CoVID. So what use is a drug that does not do its job and only hastens death by producing fatal side effects?

    The results published by Pfizer of its own clinical data and research showed little difference in mortality between those in the trial with a vaccine and those given a placebo.

    To wit

    Dr) Alex Berenson “The pivotal clinical trial for the @pfzir #Covid vaccine shows it does nothing to reduce the overall risk of death. ZERO.

    15 patients who received the vaccine died. 14 who received placebo died. The end. The trial blind is broken now. This is all the data we will ever have now…”

    https://jonathanturley.org/2021/07/31/twitter-suspends-science-writer-after-he-posts-results-of-pfizer-clinical-test/

    So what is the point of the vaccine besides testing Guinea Pigs, huge profit for Big Pharma and Coffin-makers?

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  • oxygen:

    @ Harder Truths

    THAT IS PRECISELY herd immunity could NOT be achieved.

    Harder Truths: Bros, the fact about Pfzir affecting mortality is a big fat lie. It does nothing to stop anyone dying of CoVID. So what use is a drug that does not do its job and only hastens death by producing fatal side effects?

    The whole idea that everybody needs to be vaccinated is a rotten poppycock.

    A case could be argued on slim rationalisation that older people with compromised immunity might be saved from severe virus infection has – in clear evidence now – NOT SUBSTANTIATED!

    The extent of breakthrough infection and more than proportionate share of fully vaccinated (than unvaccinated) reveal the scientifically baseless deception advanced by Big Pharma and political cows as your post comment also illuminated here.

    It is also EXACTLY THE SAME elevated risks of vaccine-induced injury and permanent damage for this older immune compromised fully vaccinated mob. That is to say, the vaccine induced injury may have damage their organ’s failure prematurely which then provide the political cover of pretended no vaccine injury risks of alleged death from “comorbidities”.

    How did comorbidities suddenly erupt to trigger PERFECTLY-TIME MORTALITY among older generation (majority) is NEVER EXPLAINED by political cows and Big Pharma. When caught with telling lies – THEY BOTH SHUT THEIR A*SES!!

    This older generation with immune compromised in defence may have been hit with initial mild infection AND IN SO OF MISFORTUNE, fought back and MAY HAVE DEVELOPED NATURAL IMMUNITY far more powerful of protection than any vaccine available.

    They DON’T NEED to be vaccinated and are coerced even deceived by fearful media-orchestrated deception of imagined mortality to undertake UNNECESSARY RISKS of vaccine and misled into unknowingly accept vaccine-induced damage to internal organs with mortality consequences months/years later THAN THEIR NATURAL LONGEVITY WOULD LAST THEM of survival on this planet.

    Mortality statistics from political cows and orchestrated by mainstream approved media are ALL MANUFACTURED ghosts. Nobody ever explains why comorbidities death didn’t occur on the elderly immune-compromised a few seconds or minutes waiting for their covid vaccination sitting on their chairs waiting for vaccination turn but a week or slightly longer thereafter.

    Hospitals never faithfully record vaccine death, can’t keep up with stats, many went home to die and doctors can’t justify “proof” (when there is none of autopsy proven) of vaccine death. JUST LET THEM ALL DIE of pretended “comorbidites” death – far easier to explain of political lies and manufactured statistics.

    Primary shots don’t deliver protection. Now “booster” jabs deliver UNEXPLAINED “miracles”?

    FARTS OF FICTION!!

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  • oxygen:

    @ Harder Truths

    READ THIS if it interest you, why mass inoculation, is most likely to backfire badly and why passport vaccine is political despotism of the elite.

    The Cost and Irritation of Abandoning Common Sense in Dealing With COVID

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/the-cost-and-irritation-of-abandoning-common-sense-in-dealing-with-covid_4031645.html?utm_source=partner&utm_campaign=ZeroHedge

    POLITICAL COWS AND BIG PHARMA ARE ALL SILENT ON ORGAN DAMAGE, its unknown causes and random distribution of elevated blood pressure/diabetes post-vaccination after the so-called “recovery” attained.

    It is unknown if Covid infection is the causation or vaccine damage from untested vaccine experimentation is the causation or both.

    MASS VACCINATION DEFINITELY HAS UNKNOWN RISKS CONCEALED. To me it is like a small house risk burning down (in infection misfortune) but adding fuel (mass vaccination )to lit up a whole prairie fire in which there is no more survivor saved of those unvaccinated.

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  • Kudos:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/lithuanian-without-vaccine-pass-describes-life-under-medical-tyranny

    PAP has made Singapore a laughing stock of the world with such huge rises in covid cases, and other countries cases are dropping a lot. And they double down on their flawed strategy and the country suffers.

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  • oxygen:

    @ Kudos

    PAPpypolitics calls LEE-jiapore Covid-resilient nation when the reality of evidence show it is a Covid-defeated nation trapped in looming escalation of disaster in the making and clueless of the way forward.

    Kudos: PAP has made Singapore a laughing stock of the world with such huge rises in covid cases, and other countries cases are dropping a lot. And they double down on their flawed strategy and the country suffers.

    If booster jabs are safe for Sinkieland, how come FDA panel DON’T APPROVE it for Americans?

    and

    how come LEE-jiapore DOES NOT APPROVE theprimary two-shot jabs for children under 12?

    POLITICAL COWS here speak of Covid-19 NOT in medical science terms BUT always IN THE LANGUAGE OF POLITICAL VACUOUS construct leaving themselves ample room to “spin” one percent truth later, 99% lies, fantasy and propaganda of convenient public deceptions such as mask not necessary, no herd immunity after 80% vaccination as originally promised, benefits outweigh risks etc etc

    it is like the mousetrap – the mouse does not know why the bait of food (promise of beneficial outcome in vaccination) is there but if the stupid mouse bite, it will be whacked and maybe killed.

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  • Harder Truths:

    @oxy

    Have read it. Thanks.

    $G will forever be known as the nation of Guinea Pigs. Right now $G is offering booster shots which even the US and EU are hesitant to recommend.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/eu-will-wait-decide-pfizer-boosters-due-shortage-safety-data

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/they-cant-even-keep-lies-straight-fda-cdc-condradict-pfizer-claim-theres-no-need-booster

    So the regime knows much better than US FDA, EU, WHO and others? It seems only the Big Pharma is cheering.

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