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Confusing and conflicting plans for Covid-19

If you stepped back and take a closer look at your directives, you will see just how confusing and conflicting your ardent plans for Covid are. This all came from the almighty edicts.

“live your live as normal as you can, do not be paralysed by fear”..”98% of Covid cases have no or very mild symptoms” . But now its still 2 people at eateries and at the hawkers, despite rules to bar the unvaxxed from eating in. it’s pathetic to see families celebrating budget Children’s Day or birthdays of their kids over 2 tables at the hawkers..and no mingling. That is not normal, and we have close to 85% vaxxed status now. imagine, that same family live and stay together, yet cannot be seen together outside. Let 8 ppl back in will ya.

“No need for hawkers to check on customers status” (on tv last night), saying they won;t have the time and may not know how to properly check because of their age and digital inabilities. But today, a Minister contradicts it on your newspaper.

Yes, people have a choice to be vaxxed or not, but they don;’t have the right to harm those who are, they have choices too. Keep them away till this blows over. The majority will thank them. You rules of can enter malls or hawkers but cannot, but only if, or when and how…is really messy.

Families of even 4 with unvaxxed kids can go on a flight to he VTL countries. But they cannot go to hawkers and kopitiams despite the ban on the unvaxxed.

You wanted to help the struggling hawkers, yet you chose to close the hawker centres for major cleaning over 3-4mths, and deprive them of what little they struggle to earn and make ends meet. And oh, that “raise their rent because the paperwork says so” directive… (jeees, you gotta check your art of compassion on this one).

Your taskforce are basically leaders who listen to the advise of their underlings who may not all have the best suggestions (we noticed all the flip flops). Its a national problem. Why aren’t there a bigger team of true virologists of epidemiologist co-helming it. This problem is not a political setback, its a national one, and we expect the top brains in Sg to work on it, even if they are apolitical or don’t share your political views. This is a bipartisan call to action. Even Trump had to work with Fauci.

Keep up the mess and confusion and this country will follow suit, because people trust you. Be visionary in your leadership.. just like how the old guard fought for independence, with no resources, water, housing and with an uneducated population. Look at where we are today.

 

KF Seetoh

 

 

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32 Responses to “Confusing and conflicting plans for Covid-19”

  • Honestly, I am super curious as to which retard came up with these STUPENDOUS policies.

    Is he/she from RI or woodbridge? lol

    Anyone in the know?

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  • illiterate pap voters:

    TRE Techie:
    Honestly, I am super curious as to which retard came up with these STUPENDOUS policies.

    Is he/she from RI or woodbridge? lol

    Anyone in the know?

    The retard from Tanjong katong denied saying lousy school. this pap Lj is like the man who goes karaoke screws mei mei and denies never going to karaoke.

    The other ratards, so many of them, ain’t worth even mentioning.

    Look how stupid they are. Covid attacks only in hawker centres in malls?

    ffff.

    Covid attacks mostly in crowded buses mrt trains. pap doesn’t know or pretend not to know?

    What pap should do is, when they are not using their cotton sheep funded private cars, let cotton sheep use them instead of contracting covid in crowded buses mrt trains.

    For those on home quarantine in very tiny HDB units, pap folks can open up their extra rooms in their GCB for cotton sheep.

    Just these 2 actions from pap folks, their cars and their extra rooms in their GCBs, good enough to reduce deaths 10 per day to zero per day. But will pap folks do it? hahaha. No. No. No. Never. Why should we the pap S$m rich doing anything for cotton sheep? Never.

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  • Power hungry:

    So long as the 69% bodohs want them, they will be led by bodoh miniSTIRs.

    Shame wants to be more powderful that pinklee!

    But the country is not ready for him as peeayam! When he was backbench he wants the judiciary to have last say.

    But now, he wants judiciary only after he gives the order. Power hungry. This man.

    Tech: Politics is very complicated and dirty, it is all about power and the best man wins. If Mr Shanmugam is better than the current LEEder, then what harm is there to Sinkies if he leads? Besides, IMHO, he has the balls to make difficult decisions and in this trying times, it may be good for Sinkies, no?

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  • NotMyProblem:

    Recently I went into a building, I was required to check my temperature. I asked the security, why he still wants to do that when the MTF already said no need. He told me the building management is also not clear about what is required or not. To play safe just do it!

    I also notice, not only in this building but also several other places still with the temperature scanner, even though not manned, on standby. One would also notice every shop in any mall would still has the QR code stuck at the entrance. This QR code was not required after the implementation of the Trace together app/token, but you still see people doing it.

    Why is it so? That’s because everyone was confused and measures were conflicting! Everyone did not know what was required, so play it safe, do everything!!

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  • suntan:

    Rip-roaring A level results produced by top ten-year series scholars who cannot make good decisions without having something to base on.

    All suddenly blur.
    Thats why we see more and more groping around and much more lapses.

    They cannot even hold on-the-spot gentlemanly debate in parliament.
    They need to rely on extra weapons like Pofma,Fica and whatever to spar with the much disadvantaged oppo MPs.

    When they lose,they sue?

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  • Smart Nation:

    They are tripping on their own rules and contradicting themselves. Unvaxxed adults are banned from eateries, malls and coffee shops, but unvaxxed children with parents are allowed? They limit F&B outlets and hawkers centres to two people per table, but will allow plane loads of passengers seated closely to one another in an aircraft. Isn’t the discrepancy obvious?

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  • All these idiotic policies are just for show only, to wayang to the world that they, the clowns at MTF are doing something, not being paid million$ for doing nothing.

    And when the figures start to decline, they would come out and praise themselves for a job well done, when we all know that the figures eventually HAVE TO come down (with or without the MTF’s stoopid policies) when those who are vulnerable are all dead.

    Simple math and common sense, no?

    BTW, does anyone has information on who is who in the supposed experts committee on C19?

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  • KT:

    Well said, Mr Seetoh ! I think these million$$$ politicians descend to the ground (i.e. hawk centres, coffeeshops, restaurants, etc )and see for themselves the confusions people are facing ! Don’t always sit comfortably at the conference hall and speaking all the time. Leeders must visit the places and meet the people, and hear their difficulties. Or are they afraid to get infected by the virus ? Don’t worry, your million Singdollars are intact whilst many citizens are out of jobs !

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  • Underlings?:

    Those people depend on their under things to make decisions. Swing left, swing right. Yio Yio.

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  • Realistically:

    I suggest sinkies should familiarise themselves as to the REALITY of the COVID-19 pandemic as stated by the Director of Medical Services, Assoc Professor Kenneth Mak. I quote the 1st 2 paras:

    >>SINGAPORE — Covid-19 testing in the community for those who go to clinics with acute respiratory infections or flu-like illnesses continues to detect a high proportion of infections, suggesting that Singapore is “not anywhere near the peak of the epidemic curve yet, nor are the community cases yet on the wane”.

    Making this point on Saturday (Oct 9), Associate Professor Kenneth Mak, who is director of medical services at the Ministry of Health (MOH), added that the coronavirus is still spreading in settings where people are gathering and engaging in mask-off activities such as when they dine out together<<

    Note what DMS said in the 2nd para and I quote: "….the coronavirus is still spreading in settings where people are gathering and engaging in MASK-OFF activities …." I hv capitalised "MASK-OFF" to emphasise that if one was to keep one's mask ON properly, the chance of being infected and then spreading it is very low, whether in MALLs or in stand alone supermarkets, the latter is opened to anyone, vaccinated or not………so why prohibit a mask wearing person from going into a mall which is more spacious and thus less likely to be a place for the unvaccinated to catch the virus or for the infected person to spread the virus?

    Now you know how badly mismanaged on the COVID-19 pandemic the emperor without clothes regime has been?

    Oh, one should hold the wayang-party MPs complicit to the PREVENTABLE DEATHS and unnecessary miseries and sufferings, including many small biz going bust, and the adverse impact on the economy.

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  • 4G CMI, SG dies:

    Right after PM told everyone on national TV to “go about our daily activities as normally as possible”, the MTF announced that the unvaxxed cannot eat here and cannot go there. LOL! Truly Monkeys In White doing monkey business!

    Not only the unvaxxed are inconvenienced, now every ordinary person in sg is suffering – medical staff, teachers, hawkers, businesses in shopping malls and especially the frail old people who live in fear everyday and wonder will he/she be next on Jinx’s death list.

    Thanks to Jinx Ong. Ever since he joined the MTF, the present covid situation in sg has opened the eyes of many singaporeans and most have now seen the true incompetencies of the Monkeys In White.

    Unless in the next 3 yrs before GE pap is able to mass convert tens of thousands of foreigners to vote for them, we’ll slowly but surely see the the downfall of pap very soon. Singaporeans would have adjusted their mindsets on pap and would not be paralysed by fear of the toxic party anymore.

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  • Realistically:

    I think readers might be interested to read about what I would consider an epic failure in the emperor without clothes incompetence in mismanaging the COVID-19 pandemic:

    https://www.tremeritus.net/2021/08/30/we-are-living-a-great-lie/

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  • Boh Pian Eh:

    Quote “Unless in the next 3 yrs before GE pap is able to mass convert tens of thousands of foreigners to vote for them, we’ll slowly but surely see the the downfall of pap very soon. ” unquote

    Have you heard of ” Stupidity has No Cure”
    You think more Singkee will not vote for pappy in the next election with these mess they created? Have you heard of the words that singkee always say “boh pian, is like that one” Unless the mess kills all the merdeka and the pioneer generation than there is hope.

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  • Pause:

    May be good to take a pause and do a through review…why so many cases when so many are already vaccinated.Maybe the Vaccine alone is not effective.

    Not sure to keep the unvaccinated from daily living like Hawker centres and shopping Centres is the right move.

    Not sure it really will helps but sure it will cause a lot of inconvenience and angry Citizens…

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  • I heard that the unvaccinated are not taking this lying down and are taking legal advice to bring this matter before the courts. Wonder if there are any legal grounds to do so?

    There are about 100,000 unvaxxed residents in Sinkieland, I wonder how many will dare surface or will they just wait for each other to take the lead?

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  • Smart Nation:

    One only has to follow the news to get a feel of the mess and chaos at the malls, coffee shops and hawker centres on the first day of vaccination status checks. Feel sorry for the owners and staff having to deal with irritated customers. After vaccinating 80% of the population to return to normal, people still have to live with all the hassle. How about also checking on people boarding trains and buses to see if they are vaccinated? LOL!

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  • Smart Nation:

    Pause:
    May be good to take a pause and do a through review…why so many cases when so many are already vaccinated.Maybe the Vaccine alone is not effective.

    Not sure to keep the unvaccinated from daily living like Hawker centres and shopping Centres is the right move.

    Not sure it really will helps but sure it will cause a lot of inconvenience and angry Citizens…

    Something just doesn’t seem right. The vaccines are not producing the herd immunity as was anticipated. Instead, thousands still get infected after being fully vaxxed. The MTF should come out with a truthful explanation on the efficacy of the vaccines, especially against the Delta variant.

    Tech: I don’t think vaccines produce herd immunity, infection does. With breakthrough infections, I don’t think herd immunity is even possible.

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  • macro:

    This government is beyond hope.
    SG is dying under such leadership.

    A leadership which only takes its people as simple numbers, a leadership which took HUGE amount of risks and yield little results.

    A leadership with no compassion and no ethics, gamble on anything including trust and lives.

    You gave power to those who destroys you. You deserves it.

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  • Smart Nation:

    @Tech: I don’t think vaccines produce herd immunity, infection does. With breakthrough infections, I don’t think herd immunity is even possible.

    Response: Like that means can kena infected again and again?

    Tech: That is correct, even if you kenna bitten once and recover, you can kenna bite again and again and again. http://www.tremeritus.net/2021/08/31/fully-vaccinated-healthcare-workers-carry-251-times-viral-load/

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  • Smart Nation:

    @ Tech: That is correct, even if you kenna bitten once and recover, you can kenna bite again and again and again. http://www.tremeritus.net/2021/08/31/fully-vaccinated-healthcare-workers-carry-251-times-viral-load/

    Response: Thanks for the link. They are quite silent on this piece of information. This possibly explains the post-vaccination surge in Israel and SG. Maybe that’s why they are not pushing so hard for the booster.

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  • Smart Nation:

    @Tech: That is correct, even if you kenna bitten once and recover, you can kenna bite again and again and again. http://www.tremeritus.net/2021/08/31/fully-vaccinated-healthcare-workers-carry-251-times-viral-load/
    Response: This study is done on the AstraZeneca; the results may not apply to the Pfizer or Moderna.

    Tech: Unfortunately, it does. There are also studies on the Pfizer and the result is the same, go do a search or read this: http://www.tremeritus.net/2021/10/14/fully-vaccinated-are-covid-%E2%80%98super-spreaders%E2%80%99-says-inventor-of-mrna-technology/

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  • Stupid:

    A family of 4 have to use two tables in coffee shop because it’s so dangerous to sit together. But the moment they walk out of the coffee shop, they can walk together. The danger disappears immediately. Brilliant theory with no logic. Only scholars can come up with this. Unbelievable.

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  • Xia Liu @ Toh Yi coffeeshop:

    Those xia liu people talk so loud at this center Toh Yi drive coffeeshop near atm. Saliva fly here and there. Bei Bi Xia Liu wu cher. It’s the dirtiest looking one among the three.

    Who wants to dine in that jamban? PUIII. Hope they all close down.

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  • ShapeUpOrShipOut MTF:

    Bordering on the ridiculous, is what it is..
    So many instructions..many seniors cant keep up.
    Preventing them from hawker centres just bcuz unvaxed,is
    unjust..

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  • xoxo:

    Come next year,the OLD BATCHE$ OF PFIZER N MODERNA VACCINE$ would have been used up and the pharmas will say * sorry* they lack what OUR NEW VACCINE$ can do.
    Come n get two more jab$ with our new vaccine$.

    The gahmen here get CONned by outsiders all the time but always CON daft sgs come rain or shine.
    When its * raining*,they push blames onto sgs even when they are the ones who cause those problems but they always rush to claim glory even when they did nothing?

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  • 4G CMI, SG dies:

    Boh Pian Eh:
    Quote “Unless in the next 3 yrs before GE pap is able to mass convert tens of thousands of foreigners to vote for them, we’ll slowly but surely see the the downfall of pap very soon. ” unquote

    Have you heard of ” Stupidity has No Cure”
    You think more Singkee will not vote for pappy in the next election with these mess they created? Have you heard of the words that singkee always say “boh pian, is like that one” Unless the mess kills all the merdeka and the pioneer generation than there is hope.

    Me think, stupidity has 2 types:
    1. In-born. Born stupid then really boh pian. This group really has no cure. It’s just karma la!
    2. Life’s too good until people are too lazy to think. Then become stupid!

    Singaporeans are type 2.

    When a person is standing at the edge of the cliff, when his life is at stake, do you think he’ll remain stupid to just jump or start using his head to think how to escape death?

    Or this. When the frog in the boiling water is starting to feel the heat, do you think it’ll keep still and remain in the pot or will it try to jump out of the boiling water?

    Change takes time. Like what WP did. First Aljunied GRC then the Sengkang GRC. Slowly but surely, more oppositions will kick out the pap.

    This covid pandemic will mark the start for the collapse of the toxic party.

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  • @Stupid

    Oxymoron concocted by morons? lol

    My gut feel tells me that these oxymoron policies are created to gravely inconvenience those unvaxxed so that they will be compelled to go get vax. Even a 3-year-old knows that none of these policies can effectively stop the spread of the C19.

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  • Harder Truths:

    TRE Techie:
    I heard that the unvaccinated are not taking this lying down and are taking legal advice to bring this matter before the courts. Wonder if there are any legal grounds to do so?

    There are about 100,000 unvaxxed residents in Sinkieland, I wonder how many will dare surface or will they just wait for each other to take the lead?

    Legal challenges when they OWN the Marsupial Courts?
    When inside is outside?
    When Indian is Malay?
    When maid is guilty until proven innocent?

    A waste of time. $G has no real justice. All for show. Wayang.
    The question is how long will it take people to realise there is no real protection and more harm from being ‘vaccinated’?

    We will see a lot more deaths and people dying from CoVID-related effects (all covered up of course) until people get scared enough to create some kind of mob panic that the Regime cannot ignore.

    Because in $G only mob panic will do the job.

    I would just buy shares in the undertaker business.

    Tech: I can understand your reservations, but to be fair to the courts, LEEders’ cases aside, the courts have been delivering some fair judgments since CJ Menon took charge. Since the policies practically affect everyone in Sinkieland (judges must have friends and relatives who are also unvaxxed), it’s hard to prematurely determine whose side the courts will stand with. So it is better to let the law takes its natural course, should there is indeed such an action.

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  • @Realistically

    What Mak is saying is that Sinkies should prepare for more infections (estimated by experts at 10,000 per day) and with that, more deaths of our oldies but goodies?

    Actually, they don’t have to bother to massage the daily figures anymore because anyone with half a brain would already know that the number of infected (including asymptomatic, mild or otherwise) would have already passed the 6-digits mark by now, a month or more into the initial mass outbreak (due to the NDP).

    Sinkieland has already passed the point of no return and all that remains is for the majority of the populace to be infected (and some die-off), then pray very hard that the elusive “herd immunity” will kick in.

    Should the “herd immunity” not kick in, then the island will be filled with sick, permanently injured and dead residents.

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  • Realistically:

    @ TRE Techie:
    October 14, 2021 at 8:39 pm (Quote)

    The concept of “herd immunity” appears to be buried.

    I read on msn website on SINKaPOOR news that the situation in our hospitals is quite dire……….with COVID-19 cases causing doctors not seeing patients with other medical problems and that the medical staff is over-worked and many foreign nurses have resigned.

    As for your earlier mention of possible legal challenge to the ridiculous restrictions of non-vax people not allowed into malls, I would hv liked to join in if I have the time.

    All I can say is, the emperor without clothes epic mismanagement of the C-19 pandemic should not hv been allowed to happen in the 1st place………….he has been totally incompetent and unsuitable to be in the Cabinet in the 1st place and subsequently the PM

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  • @Realistically

    The idea that the clowns at MTF are banking on “herd immunity” obviously has to be buried. You want them to come out in the open and say:

    We are clueless and no longer able to come up with any feasible solution to the current pandemic. You peasants are now on your own, all should pray for that elusive “herd immunity” (which can only be achieved if the majority of the population are infected).

    Sadly, Sinkieland has passed the point of no return and unless an abrupt u-turn of the current policies are effected without delay, 99% there will be no light at the end of the tunnel for them. X’mas will be a season of moaning and mourning for most Sinkies.

    Simple math.

    According to Lim Tean, yesterday about 20,000 ACTIVE cases with mostly at home (therefore the chances of infecting family members and others is EXTREMELY HIGH), and at a R0 of 6 (according to medical experts), that would equate to 20,000 x 6 = 120,000 a day.

    OR

    If we take Lim Tean’s figures of 1000 additional increase in daily fresh cases (on top of confirmed cases approximately 3000 daily), in about a week, Sinkieland will be seeing more than 10,000 cases in a day. And we apply the same to a month and then a year?

    For the sake of argument, let us assume that “herd immunity” is even possible, say “majority” means 80% of the population, that would mean 4 MILLION residents on the island would have to be infected. Not all will survive, so we take the current death rate of 0.2%, about 80,000 will be dead by then.

    Of course these are just my back of toilet paper calculations and NOT a matter of fact, there just might be that 1% possibility that the C19 has gotten bored and decides to swim across to Johore tomorrow, right? lol

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  • go away at the most unexpected:

    //Not all will survive, so we take the current death rate of 0.2%, about 80,000 will be dead by then.//

    to live with convit99, then casualties (especially in congested sinkie land ??) will rise as there will always be people who are not vaccinated OR fail to take booster shot (hence falling outside the vaccine efficacy window ?? ) OR their own immunity system may just wane when they are fall sick (from other illnesses ??) for convit99 infection to attack ???

    //Of course these are just my back of toilet paper calculations and NOT a matter of fact, there just might be that 1% possibility that the C19 has gotten bored and decides to swim across to Johore tomorrow, right? lol//

    hahaha. perhaps our own constantly moving planetary position within our galaxy / universe may cause some unseen cosmic reaction / force against convit99 and it may just go away at the most unexpected manner ???

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