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Fully Vaccinated are COVID ‘Super-Spreaders,’ Says Inventor of mRNA Technology

Dr. Robert Malone, recognized for his role in inventing mRNA vaccine technology, said, “The idea that if you have a workplace where everybody’s vaccinated, you’re not going to have virus spread is totally false. A total lie.”

Dr Robert Malone (left)

On the latest episode of “The Hidden Gateway” podcast, host Jesston Williams spoke to Dr. Robert Malone, an internationally recognized medical doctor and scientist who assisted with inventing mRNA vaccines.

The wide-ranging discussion covered:

  • The invention and early testing of mRNA technology, in which Malone was heavily involved.
  • How governments are employing different forms of coercion to drive vaccine uptake, policies Malone said he believes are illegal.
  • How public health authorities lack the normally required safety and efficacy information for a global vaccination campaign.
  • How governments and public health authorities are lying to the public “for their own good.”

Malone referenced two instances where citizens are being “enticed” to take what he refers to as the “experimental” vaccine.

“There was a period where West Virginia was trying to get people to get vaccinated,” Malone said. “And so they had a shotgun lottery. And in Canada, there was a policy of offering free ice cream to children to get them to take the jab even without their parents’ approval. So those are just two particularly clear examples of unfair coercion … It’s not actually legal.”

Malone likened what’s going on today with COVID vaccines to the illegal medical experiments conducted by Nazi Germany. “[During the Second World War], Jews and other ethnic groups were subjected to horrible experimental medical research,” Malone said. “And they justified it by saying it was for the common good.”

Malone said the Western World “agreed we weren’t going to do that anymore. Yet, from time to time we seem to forget, and of course, Tuskegee is one example, and frankly, this is another example.”

In an attempt to clear up misinformation coming from the medical establishment, Malone said fully vaccinated individuals can spread COVID. “The idea that if you have a workplace where everybody’s vaccinated, you’re not going to have virus spread is totally false. A total lie,” Malone said.

The vaccinated are actually the “super-spreaders” that everyone was told about in the beginning of the pandemic, Malone argued.

He said:

“If you consider the scientific fact that vaccinated people have less symptoms than the unvaccinated, but can still easily spread disease, consider your fellow vaccinated worker, whose unvaccinated son brought the disease home and gave it to him … He might not have any symptoms … but he’ll definitely be producing the virus. And he’s going to say, hey, I can go to work today. But he’s going to be spreading the virus like crazy.”

Malone also touched on the idea of “the noble lie:”

“If the government isn’t going to disclose to you what the [vaccine] risks are, and they’re not going to disclose to you what’s really going on because they think that you can’t handle the news … this is called the noble lie.”

Malone denounced the “noble lie” as “paternalistic authoritarianism.” He said the idea of governance-by-lying goes back to Plato and Ancient Greek philosophy which argues that it’s “okay for politicians and people in authority positions to lie to the general public because they have special knowledge and ability to understand things … and the general public can’t cope with that level of information. And so it’s okay to lie to them.”

“I really disagree with this line of thinking,” Malone said. “Yet it has been public policy in the United States and worldwide in public health for a very long time.”

Listen to the podcast here.

 

Source:  The Defender.

 

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33 Responses to “Fully Vaccinated are COVID ‘Super-Spreaders,’ Says Inventor of mRNA Technology”

  • If what Dr Malone says are true, then those who took the mRNA vaccines are so so screwed and they are a danger to the society at large.

    One of the side-effects of the mRNA vaccines may even affect a woman’s ability to conceive

    http://www.tremeritus.net/2021/08/22/c19-vaccine-causes-lipid-nanoparticles-to-accumulate-in-%E2%80%98high-concentrations%E2%80%99-in-ovaries/

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/The-Covid-vaccines-may-affect-periods.-Are-we-allowed-to-talk-about-this

    IS this the end of human civilization?

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  • xoxo:

    So much for the hype.
    More haste,less speed.
    The drug companies’ bosses may not have been jabbed with their own MRNA vaccines.
    The govt who loves conning its owncitizens seem to be conned themselves.

    So,the vaxxed shud be shut from malls instead?

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  • kudos:

    If all vaxxed then everyone spread to everyone, so it’s ok.

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  • As I have opined, Sinkieland has passed the point of no return and the MTF is betting everything on the elusive “herd immunity”, hence “living with the virus” – to allow as many to get infected as possible.

    Herd Immunity: resistance to the spread of an infectious disease within a population that is based on pre-existing immunity of a high proportion (83% to 94%) of individuals as a result of previous infection or vaccination.

    Since C19 vaccination offers NO immunity against the C19, naturally what remains now is to allow almost the entire populace (4 million and above) to be infected and pray for that elusive “herd immunity”, failing which, the island will be inhabited mostly with residents that are PERMANENTLY injured, if they are not already PERMANENTLY dead by then.

    I hope I am so very wrong, but not likely.

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  • Vaccinated:

    All vaccinated…effective ?
    The Virus will still win.
    Look at Israel….why so high infection ?
    Could be the result of the Virus mutation response to the Vaccine…

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  • MarBowling:

    Hat off and salute Dr Robert Malone.

    Normally and Usually, an INVENTOR of an IMPOTENT oops IMPORTANT vaccine such as the mRNA vaccine such as Pfizer vaccine will PROMOTE and PEDDLE his Holee Product like a Snake Oil Sale-man, period! There will be suckers all over the shop on planet earth who will sink their teeth into this Wonder Vaccine out of STUPIDITY OR FOR VESTED INTEREST, such as by the Husband(Mai Hum)and Wifey(Holee Jinx)Tag Team!

    Here we are, Dr Robert Malone, an INVENTOR or like someone has said, assisting in the INVENTION of mNRA Technology, HAS CHOSEN TO VOICE OUT STRONGLY AGAINST USING mRNA VACCINE POKING INTO HUMAN BODY!

    History LATER will tell us WHETHER The Tag Team is DOING THE RIGHT THING FOR SINKAPORE by having ALMOST the whole population of SinKapore to be VACCINATED WITH THE HOLEE PFIZER JABS, FOR NATIONAL INTEREST OR FOR PERSONAL VESTED INTEREST! HEAVEN HAS EYES. KARMA AND RETRIBUTION WILL EVENTUALLY CATCH UP WITH ANYONE DOING HORRENDOUS AND BAD DEEDS, PERIOD!

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  • No herd Immunity:

    herd immunity may hv come from your inert immune system. But now that the vial has gone into you, yr immune sys has been suppressed and cannot do its function, and the vial doesn’t do shit.

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  • Spineless Sinkie Syndrome:

    TRE Techie:
    As I have opined, Sinkieland has passed the point of no return …

    Since C19 vaccination offers NO immunity against the C19, naturally what remains now is to allow almost the entire populace (4 million and above) to be infected and pray for that elusive “herd immunity”, failing which, the island will be inhabited mostly with residents that are PERMANENTLY injured, if they are not already PERMANENTLY dead by then.

    You are spot on that Sinkieland has passed the point of no return.
    PAPies are same as most Sinkies – they easily succumb to peer pressure or blindly believe what the mass media tells them without critical thinking.

    Why PAPies rapidly push ahead with these (mRNA) jabs, even though its obviously EXPERIMENTAL with unknown Long-Term side effects, is that they heard that Israel also doing mass jabs, so lazy PAPies blindly follow without doing their own due diligence.

    For instance, has anyone asked whether PAPies did a SAMPLE check to test what is actually inside those (mRNA) vials, before doing MASS jabs?? LOL.
    When customs inbound various goods, their SOP is also to do sampling checks to see if there is any dangerous drugs hidden inside shipments, yes?
    So, why did PAPies not open a few vials from each batch of vaccines to look under the microscope / electron microscope or to do basic chemical tests??
    What if the vials are contaminated with heroin or some other dangerous materials??

    Now like you said, its TOO LATE, because even if they now find out there is something bad within, Sinkieland MSM will definitely COVER-UP because the 80%+ Sinkies already jabbed will cry father cry mother and backlash will be heavy. LOL.

    In contrast, look at Japan, who checked samples and then they saw there was contamination or some unknown substance.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/26/japan-pulls-1point6-million-moderna-vaccine-doses-over-contamination-concerns-.html

    Even without contamination, the science already shows that the spike proteins won’t just stay in the arm where the needle pokes, it will travel to the blood stream and accumulate in various organs (e.g. the brain, the ovaries, testicles, liver etc.)

    The old will not need to bother about LONG-TERM side effects, even though the jabs MAY have SHORTENED their lifespans, and the PAPies can easily sweep under carpet by claiming they had various “underlying medical conditions”.

    For the young & otherwise healthy Sinkies, being dead may actually be a blessing in disguise since being PERMANENTLY INJURED implies a lifetime of long-term PAIN ahead. As usual, PAPies will of course COVER-UP by censoring all such news too. LOL.
    For example, like the vax-injured guy (Michael Yong?) which you had featured – it seems his youtube video is now no longer accessible… just as I had PREDICTED.

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  • illiterate pap voters:

    Maybe we need a reminder.

    The wisdom saying has been, be careful of the guy with the beard.

    It is like the other wisdom saying, if you see an ah neh and a cobra, strike the ah neh first because it is the more dangerous of the two.

    If everyone is vaxxed and everyone is a super spreader, where the ffff is the problem? there is no problem.

    It is to protect the 16% who has not been jabbed that the jabbed have to be restricted in movements. This is truth.

    In the case of the covid virus, it is 84% suffering because of the 16%. No different in the case of elections where 39% suffer because of the 61%.

    Anyway, be careful of the guy with the beard. What is the message, really? Don’t do anything? If all not jabbed, there won’t be any spread? How stupid, as stupid as cotton sheep thinking.

    Tech: Absolute rubbish!

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  • illiterate pap voters:

    Be careful of sour grapes.

    Read the profile carefully.

    He failed to gain acceptance as the inventor.

    He harbors selfish ambition.

    If cannot join them, then, destroy them, became his mission.

    Read carefully. He isn’t the inventor. He was an early participant. Subsequent folks made the breakthrough and he was one is a few thousand. That got him working, on the dark side.

    Talk about human nature.

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  • @Vaccinated:

    Our news, 165th in the world, dunno abt cna, doesn’t even report the uproar and protests all over Europe with the gene therapy passport. Even in Israel, they are pissed only the third dose counts now, Ya, and they are in the streets.

    Here? … plunge that xxxx in me !!

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  • Harder Truths:

    Makes no difference. The 85% already trusted their lives to the ‘vaccine’ and expect no consequences.

    Exactly what the Regine wants – to study long-term effects of the trial drugs on an island of lab rats of every ethnicity. All eager to be Guines Pigs.

    I am waiting for people to be hospitalised and possibly die for ‘health complications not related to CoVID vaccine’ that have never been seen on this island before.

    But still, jab jab jab jab jab for as long as people live – to have ‘immunity’. Must be immunity from common sense.

    Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

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  • Harder Truths:

    TRE Techie: As I have opined, Sinkieland has passed the point of no return and the MTF is betting everything on the elusive “herd immunity”, hence “living with the virus” – to allow as many to get infected as possible.

    Giving people and their future generations unchangeable DNA-related medical problems from trial drugs is not herd immunity. However if that is what people want then I have no problems with their right to free choice. This is how nature kills off stupid people.

    Tech: Proper vaccination does provide immunity, but not in the case of mRNA vaccines. So in this case, one has to be infected to (hopefully) develop immunity from the body’s own immune system, BUT I read somewhere that the mRNA actually suppresses the body’s own immune system so natural immunity may be out of the question for those who are already vaxxed. Since mRNA wanes completely in about 6 months, those vaxxed may have to take booster shots every 6 months for as long as the C19 is rampant.

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  • Harder Truths:

    Harder Truths: Tech: Proper vaccination does provide immunity, but not in the case of mRNA vaccines. So in this case, one has to be infected to (hopefully) develop immunity from the body’s own immune system, BUT I read somewhere that the mRNA actually suppresses the body’s own immune system so natural immunity may be out of the question for those who are already vaxxed. Since mRNA wanes completely in about 6 months, those vaxxed may have to take booster shots every 6 months for as long as the C19 is rampant.

    @YreTechie

    This is exactly what happens. It inhibits or confuses the body’s ability to properly recognise the threat, and the body also is give nfalse information the creation of antibodies is not required. The mRNA is playing with DNA. No one knows what it is going to do with individuals much less ethnic populations. And for what it’s worth I’m glad you are in China.

    $G sheeple are going to find out the hard way. How exciting!

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  • @Harder Truths

    I also read somewhere that since the mRNA inhibits the body’s own immune system, if the vaccinated catches some other infections aside from the C19, the body may no longer provide the defense needed to ward it off, thus rendering the vaccinated more vulnerable than an unvaccinated person.

    Unfortunately for those vaccinated, it is too late to do anything about it now as these effects are PERMANENT.

    Even if the C19 pandemic tides over, these people will still be very vulnerable and sick.

    Very worrying, I must say.

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  • Harder Truths:

    TRE Techie: Very worrying, I must say.

    I find it very exciting! Do not worry about it too much. Life goes on.

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  • PCR test is a fraud:

    The whole conspiracy is pushed by the politicians who are claim not “Expert” on the matter but act the GOD to judge what is safe for others when they themselves are not any expert.

    https://www.aap.com.au/pcr-inventor-who-died-in-2019-did-not-say-his-test-wont-work-for-covid-19-infections/

    The inventor is murdered before the plandemic start and all numbers you see online are all fraudulent crime evidence.

    Vaccine, PCR test, mask or social distance all the new 911 project for the current Satanist listen to the order of the new Money Lord who print money openly and in the Dark like FED.

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  • oxygen:

    This is what vaccine experts warned of -

    No herd Immunity:
    herd immunity may hv come from your inert immune system. But now that the vial has gone into you, yr immune sys has been suppressed and cannot do its function, and the vial doesn’t do shit.

    Canadian Vaccinologist Dr. Byram Bridle explained this in a recent interview

    Byram Bridle
    : The principle is this: If you have a biological entity that is prone to mutation — and the SARS-CoV-2, like all coronaviruses is prone to mutation — and you apply narrowly focused selective pressure that is nonlethal, and you do this over a long period of time, this is the recipe for driving the emergence of novel variants.

    This is exactly what we’re doing. Our vaccines are focused on a single (spike) protein of the virus, so the virus only has to alter one protein, and the vaccines don’t come close to providing sterilizing immunity

    Will Vaccine Linked Deaths Rise Sharply This Winter?

    https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/will-vaccine-linked-deaths-rise-sharply-this-winter/

    THIS IS WHAT I FEAR MOST – the booster jabs “bullied” the host immunity system AND ALSO the invading virus such that it mutates into new variant the body’s immune system completely incapable of comprehending.

    AND WHAT THAT FOLLOWS MIGHT BE A GLOBAL COLLAPSE needing different vaccine (breeding even more variants thereafter of endless booster jabs killing the host but not the mutated variant).

    The mRNA, thus, in that hypothetical scenario is a death trap of fake science invention devouring and destroying mankind completely BECAUSE MANKIND IS TOO STUPID.

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  • oxygen:

    JUST BECAUSE “BOOSTER JABS” NEEDS online booking (a subterfuge of implied value and scarcity of opportunity ???), some unthinking “kiasu/kiasi” idiots must be rushing to be at the head of the queue.

    They forgot that the road to funeral is always paved with flowers.

    If the first two primary jabs are futile of protection, how can the same inferior efficacy UNTESTED OF DATA analysis CAN BE ANY GOOD when FDA overnight changed its decision to approval (from rejection earlier)??

    And Dr Kerry Chant, NSW Principal health officer has this warning in August 2021 – just 2 months ago.

    Kerry Chant:This virus may throw us curve balls. You know, we’ve got the Delta variant,”

    “God help us if we have another variant.”

    Covid variant warning over NSW travel changes: ‘Could stuff us up’

    https://au.yahoo.com/news/covid-variant-warning-over-nsw-travel-changes-could-stuff-us-up-235058126.html

    When the NSW state sought to open up Sydney to quarantine-free entry, ScoMo, the Prime Minister has this slap-back of reality facing.

    “While Mr Morrison endorsed the move, he did clarify the federal government won’t issue visas to facilitate quarantine-free entry for skilled workers, international students or tourists just yet, reiterating that was a matter for the Commonwealth government.”

    Other Australian states warned that Sydney airport arrivals from abroad WON’T BE ALLOWED into their states.

    I guess they know the obvious dangers – there are a lot of gaps of infected coming in from overseas and PCR test is notoriously unreliable of risks assessment and containment.

    Qantas CEO Alan Joyce has this realism warning of international travel recovery potential – It will still be a long time before international travel returns to normal but this is a fantastic start (from Sydney opening).

    Me thinks, LEE-jiapore, in opening up so quickly is IN FOR A BIG SURPRISE on the downside.

    It national vaccination rate achieved to date is giving it a FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY – noting that NSW opening of incoming travelers are for only its citizens, PR and immediate family, NOT even for foreign university students.

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  • Harder Truths:

    oxygen: If the first two primary jabs are futile of protection, how can the same inferior efficacy UNTESTED OF DATA analysis CAN BE ANY GOOD when FDA overnight changed its decision to approval (from rejection earlier)??

    @oxy

    You are spot on as usual. Nature is hundreds of thousands of years smarter than stupid human medical science. At one time, the physician’s code was to help the body to heal, because it was known that the body itself was so amazingly robust it knows how to defend itself. It was never about the individual for pandemics, always about the survival of the herd.

    Now we have humans trying to say they know more than Nature. Well, they will learn who is boss. And countries like India which have relied on the principal of allowing Nature to take its course and relying on tried-and-tested medications will have the last laugh.

    As for $heeple – hard to laugh when dying from variants and other complications.

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  • oxygen:

    @ illiterate pap voters

    YOU HAVE JUST PUT A FOOT INTO YOUR MOUTH – if vaccine works for the vaccinated of “protection” of any proportion fully vaccinated, why do they worry about those unvaccinated exposed of risks?

    illiterate pap voters: If everyone is vaxxed and everyone is a super spreader, where the ffff is the problem? there is no problem.

    It is to protect the 16% who has not been jabbed that the jabbed have to be restricted in movements. This is truth.

    In the case of the covid virus, it is 84% suffering because of the 16%. No different in the case of elections where 39% suffer because of the 61%.

    Anyway, be careful of the guy with the beard. What is the message, really? Don’t do anything? If all not jabbed, there won’t be any spread? How stupid, as stupid as cotton sheep thinking.

    and this one is PURE SPECULATION CONJECTURE of yours, not found on facts, any fact.

    illiterate pap voters: He harbors selfish ambition.

    If cannot join them, then, destroy them, became his mission

    Out in the real world, there are achievers who left sickly organisations because they are totally frustrated that structure and politics don’t work of decision-making.

    And this is typical in crisis management, those good ones left early BECAUSE THEY ARE UNWANTED AND VALUED TO HIRE ELSEWHERE, the leftovers are rubbish, that is why they are stuck in organisation riddled in crisis nearing total collapse. There is no takers for the “abandoned” parasitic unwanted!

    If you can identify WHO IN PARTICULAR (other than the one you denounced) inventor of mRNA technology, I might be willing to concede your growling rebuff of the “inventor”

    illiterate pap voters: Talk about human nature

    If this is true, why are you here of “fallen human nature”?

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  • oxygen:

    @ Harder Truths

    EXACTLY spot on too. If mRNA “so-called” vaccine works, why the DESPERATE rush (unexplained and inexplicable too) of political cows to inject “booster” jabs to the rest of the entire population when the same political cows deem it is unsafe to vaccinate the same for the under 12 kids?

    Harder Truths: As for $heeple – hard to laugh when dying from variants and other complications.

    POFMA IS CAUGHT A LIAR OR HYPOCRITE in windy happy contradiction or both!

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  • Billy ma:

    How effective or ineffective the vaccine is should be established as fact by March 2022.

    Why? Because at least in Singapore, majority of us would had the 3rd jab.

    And then what should happen?

    That if you get infected, you just have a running nose, a bit of cough, & maybe a low grade fever for 2 or max 3 days.

    However, if somebody died from infection, then the picture is clearer.

    Expect PAP to give this easy & convenient answer if there is large number of infection – ‘PAP & its experts will said this ‘it’s because majority are vaccinated so it’s only normal that large number of vaccinated people are infected’.

    No need paid millions nor so called medical experts to give this common sense explanation.

    Another spin by PAP if large number of infection – ‘well, the virus evolved & nobody can tell what’s next’

    PAP solution? You people just bear with it & live with it. This is PAP’s paid millions solution.

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  • oxygen:

    @ Billy Ma

    NO NEED TO WAIT till that long to discover the vaccine “effectiveness” or its “inefectiveness”.

    Billy ma: How effective or ineffective the vaccine is should be established as fact by March 2022.

    PAPpypolitics public messaging on Covid-19 is almost NUDE DANCING in the wind. Its own tribal kind when asked by Oppies in Parly of their faith and commitment in the vaccine’s safety, have been very silent or at least disingenuous of their vaccination commitment in the political zoo – telling peasants that they don’t want to be seen as advantageously “ahead” of the queue.

    Public acceptance were slow motion starting with military/school teachers, healthcare, elderly in aged care and other public-facing roles were elbowed to participate.

    The storyline is almost comical of transparent lies, fantasy and propaganda. Prior to intensified roll out – deaths with Covid symptom hospitalisation were label as the lack of vaccination.

    When vaccine campaign started in earnest, mortality is “due to comorbidities” not due to vaccine side effects.

    As the mortality escalates when vaccination hit over 82% of the population base and nearly half of mortality includes fully vaccinated, the story-line changed back to comorbidities again!! No more talking of “herd immunity” promised so ardently even just before the 80% targeted vaccination rate was achieved.

    THE HIDDEN MESSAGE?

    The vaccine campaign is fertilizing up the wrong tree. Mortality incidences and rate has nothing to do with vaccination saturation outcome. Hospital bed space in ICU and those needing oxygenation supplementation is overwhelming of supply capacity to sustain. So the storyline changed back to total (non-mandatory??) vaccination again demonising the unvaccinated whilst the fully vaccinated were silent spreaders!

    The true desperation is? Get all vaccinated to lower pressure on our healthcare system -regardless if it is useless last ditch fightback. FDA panel refutation of booster jabs (then backflipped 48 hours later in US) didn’t matter. Neither is the fact that children under 12 cannot be vaccinated – too dangerous.

    Why booster jabs when first two primary is hocus pocus of outcome?

    DESPERATION FAILURE AND VACCINE INEFFECTIVENESS of intended promised outcome of herd immunity is obvious.

    POLITICAL COWS AND THE WELL-HIDDEN PANEL OF EXPERTS GOT IT WRONG AND CANNOT ADMIT THEY GOT IT ALL WRONG!

    The vaccine is useless. It is last bet of chip as border is opening up in Sinkieland. Australia is DOING THE OPPOSITE, no students, skill labor and tourism visa will be given out at least until 2022. IT IS WAIT AND SEE THERE.

    LEE-jiapore is diving into the pool with no water waiting to see if its head is harder than the bottom of a dry swimming pool. I am crying in my soul.

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  • Reject Foreign Interference:

    Thailand just announced no more China vaccines. They are useless against variants. Now will only go with Pfizer, Moderna and Astra Zeneca

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  • oxygen:

    @ Reject Foreign Interference

    NO DISTORTION AND MISINFORMATION there? I did a web search.

    Reject Foreign Interference: Thailand just announced no more China vaccines. They are useless against variants. Now will only go with Pfizer, Moderna and Astra Zeneca

    I found this in the SCMP read.

    SCMP:In July, Thailand started inoculating people with Sinovac as a first dose followed by the Oxford University-developed AstraZeneca. Thailand was the first country to combine Chinese and Western shots, a strategy its health officials said has proved effective

    https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/australasia/article/3152700/coronavirus-australia-seeks-singapore-travel-bubble-sydney

    Your post DID NOT SUPPLY this weblink or any other to substantiate your claim that Sinovac is somehow “inadequate”.

    Why the CONCEALMENT OF TRUTH REVELATION that Sinovac combined with Astrazenecca is MOST EFFECTIVE?

    If your post also conceal this material fact of why Thailand dropped Sinovac.

    It has already booked 60 million doses of AstraZeneca, a vaccine it manufactures locally.

    It was part of Thailand’s consideration – local manufacture. And yes, Thailand is switching to Astrazenecca to combine with Pfizer/BioNTech looking for new vaccine effective against new variants.

    NEITHER IS PFIZER NORBioNtech is proven effective against new variants WHICH IS STILL TO EMERGE of what form and resistance to any combination of behavorial response to mutated virus.

    Very poor attempt there to mislead readers by you here? Is this necessary of your concealment distortion?

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  • oxygen:

    @ Reject Foreign Interference

    POLITICAL WISDOM thinking says to lie, BE BRIEF. And if you are caught lying, JUST SHUT UP!

    Reject Foreign Interference: Thailand just announced no more China vaccines. They are useless against variants. Now will only go with Pfizer, Moderna and Astra Zeneca

    Your post above is VERY BRIEF AND TWISTED of MANUFACTURED DISTORTED “facts”.

    You have sold your credibility down the gutter. Or haven’t you?

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  • What Malone cat SIOn Nazis?:

    What Robert Malonec categorised SIN PAP govt akin to Nazis in WW Ii wrt its mRNA vac policy?
    POFMA caretakers lost their balls to apply its great Nobel grade legal creativity of SIN FGPAPic garb tier cupboard cockrs on Malone despite they have 60+% dafts n international frogs farting from the bottom of wells willing to swear their balls for their buck pishing great policy? But how to push the bucks this time? WHO has responded with owo words OWN STUPIDITY n this time Malone cannot be slimed not to know the facts?

    Cotton Sheep ‘s Accountability presumably underlied SIN FGPAP policy? Is that why that Vivian dares to slime lky n many papic past n present ministers from coming from a fake good school? It seems this also has spread more effectively yhan C19 almg the CBs n $2 companies! The last saw the electricity retail providers breaking their contracts with their client when their provider needs the profits themselves plus the retailers’ AFTER MANY sinkies including thr dafts asking where have the billions $$$$$ gone?

    Kpoitiam ah pek n ah sim thought sitting 2 aparts chorus over their getting rare kopi morning sadly “where are those $$$$$ gone? Gone to the pockets, everyone? Echo whose pockets? No know cannot tell else pofma! Then big sigh n sip sip kopi sound follows?

    Yes $$$$$ where? Billions wow? Now wonder E retailers broke contract cotton sheepily! All quiet on AGC? Sinkies dafts loyalty gone shitted allover I

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  • Reject Foreign Interference:

    @Oxygen :

    All you need to do is a Google search, you will get hundreds of links. The report was also carried in CNA, Today, Straits Times etc

    Here is one link

    https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/thailand-cease-sinovac-vaccine-use-when-stocks-end-this-month-2021-10-18/

    What have I misled? Being brief is a virtue. There are people who post very long messages here, yet devoid of any data. Just a lot of “emotions” and expect people to just accept that as truth just because that person believes in his own belief

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  • Reject Foreign Interference:

    Thailand will still use 2 dose of different vaccines – Pfizer, Moderna, Astra Zeneca. It is dropping China vaccines. Thailand has said it will only procure vaccines effective against new variants. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure that they are saying China vaccines are not effective against new variants, hence in place of China vaccines, they will combine with Pfizer and Moderna. Thailand has some local manufacturing of Astra Zeneca, none for Pfizer and Moderna. Read the report.

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  • oxygen:

    @ Reject Foreign Interference

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR REJOINDER – the contents of your belated Reuters weblink is the same as my search data from SCMP.

    How come you ignored or missed out on Thai officials declaration that the Sinovac combined with AstraZenecca was every EFFECTIVE to present a picture in the perverse opposite to TRE readers (who perhaps not done their due diligence as I did)?

    Your thesis presents – IN CAREFULLY CULTURED BREVITY?? – that Thailand dropped Sinovac for reason of its vaccine ineffectual outcome of use.

    BREVITY IN THE COVER OF MISLEADING is no virtue, mate.

    Reject Foreign Interference: Thailand will still use 2 dose of different vaccines – Pfizer, Moderna, Astra Zeneca. It is dropping China vaccines. Thailand has said it will only procure vaccines effective against new variants. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure that they are saying China vaccines are not effective against new variants, hence in place of China vaccines, they will combine with Pfizer and Moderna. Thailand has some local manufacturing of Astra Zeneca, none for Pfizer and Moderna. Read the report.

    Of course, every country is hunting for new vaccine to procure to defend itself against new variants.

    BUT “new” (the key catchword) variants yet to emerge, WHO IS TO KNOW IF SINOVAC OR MERCK OR PFIZER OR MODERNA OR BIOnTech works best or in combination since the mutated variants has yet to discover itself of evolution?

    IT IS VERBIAGE OF GIBBERISH RANT in this regard whilst pleading in passionate earnest for BREVITY as virtue.

    Another page or paragraph of windy happy contradiction to come of “brevity” overlaying gibberish rant?

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  • Reject Foreign Interference:

    @ oxygen

    if Thailand’s experience with Sinovac is very good, why would they replace it with Pfizer, Moderna? would be lunatic, right? sure, they will say “effective”. the authorities need to defend their decisions, right? to justify themselves and their decisions and actions. And also just to keep China happy, afterall China is one of their major market and brings tourism etc (though as this article shows, Thailand is actually loses as China exports even more, resulting in trade deficit that is financed by debt, results in major loss of manufacturing jobs and unemployment in Thailand, and if China is angry, they can act like a real bully, canceling all longan contracts with Thailand at the last minute and Thailand had to beg them).

    https://www.bangkokpost.com/opinion/opinion/2182627/get-past-the-thai-china-trade-deficit

    The key phrase is “will only procure vaccines effective against new variants”. At the same instance, they drop Sinovac for Pfizer / Moderna. ie they are no more procuring Sinovac, but procuring Pfizer, Moderna. How much more direct message you need?

    You may believe in Sinovac which is purely based on emotions and racial pride, while Thailand has real life experience on what works, what doesn’t. Authorities need to protect their people, and cannot make decisions based on emotions and racial pride. Of course, Thais are not Chinese so they don’t have that issue.

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  • oxygen:

    @ Reject Foreign Interference

    GIBBERISH RANTS OF PURE SPECULATION, how do you know of my “racial pride” allegedly inclined in the direction of your fertile imagination?

    Reject Foreign Interference: You may believe in Sinovac which is purely based on emotions and racial pride, while Thailand has real life experience on what works, what doesn’t. Authorities need to protect their people, and cannot make decisions based on emotions and racial pride. Of course, Thais are not Chinese so they don’t have that issue.

    FYI, I roamed for years in Ah Tiong Land and achieved nothing! What residual “emotions and racial pride” (your catchwords, not mine) can there be haunting me or of any curiosity interest?

    You were staunchly adamant of these declarations of Sinovac’s efficacy.

    Reject Foreign Interference: . They are useless against variants.

    How do you know other than YOUR wild emotional fabrication pretending this to be your “fact” when new variants have not spread across the world yet (beyond Delta)?

    You DON’T DEBATE ON FACTS, JUST ON YOUR EMOTIONAL DRIVEL AND PURE SPECULATION!

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