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No need to test the asymptomatic people

This is a single event. But it may be representative of many similar events.

A retired couple (H and W), who were both fully vaccinated, took care of their grandson. He toddler was found to be positive, due to infection by another family member.

The couple, who are in their sixties, took the ART test at home and found the result to be positive.

They went to the government test center and took the PCR test and were asked to isolate at home at home. The PCR results were found to be positive.

A few days later, the wife (W) got fever. She was sent to hospital and was given the appropriate drugs (probably the expensive type). She was placed on oxygen supplement for a few days. She was later discharged after being cleared of the virus.

H completed the isolation at home without any adverse effects. He was supplied with food but no medication. He did not get any vitamins to boost his immune system.

This is my observation.

The ART test and PCR test was not necessary. If the couple did not take the test, W would be sent to hospital when she developed fever and discovered to be quite sick.

All the while, H was not sick, even though he was in close contact with W.

The ART test and PCR test of asymptomatic people did not really help. If this was avoided, the outcome would still be the same.

The many tests that are being carried out picked out many mild cases and require many people to be isolated at home. It caused a lot of confusion and panic. It probably did litte, if any, to slow down the spread.

 

Tan Kin Lian

 

 

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19 Responses to “No need to test the asymptomatic people”

  • I agree with Mr Tan absolutely. The plan was to get everyone infected (more than 4 MILLION) so that the elusive “herd immunity” can hopefully be achieved.

    As such, test or don’t test also no relevance, if really sick go hospital lor, if no symptom, just stay at home to continue and infect others and help the LEEders achieve that elusive “herd immunity”.

    My back of toilet paper calculation shows, at the current rate of infection, it would take:

    Average 3000+ daily, so 100,000+ per month and we take 4,000,000 (target of infected) divided by 100,000 = 40 months, i.e. 3 years later to achieve “herd immunity”.

    Meanwhile, the unvaxxed will have to continue to loon, avoid the vaxxed, while people will continue to get injured and some die off. At the current death rate of 0.2%, of the target of 4 MILLION infected, about 80,000 10,000 will die.

    OR maybe the LEEders can speed things up a little instead of so many wayang policies, why not MANDATE that everyone enters a Covid-19 infested chamber to get infected quickly, save a lot of time and trouble, right?

    Just pass a new law can liao, easy right?

    * Comment amended to correct miscalculation in death rate.

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  • oxygen:

    CONTRARY TO EXPECTATIONS of containment of infection spread as vaccination rate surged past 80%, the runaway surging escalation in converse tragic circumstances is living proof that Sinkieland has LOST the fight against Covid-19 rampaging fire.

    CRISIS IS MANAGING MTF and those failed “panel of experts” behind them.

    Call it “pandemic” or “endemic” is semantic aura of public misinformation just not going to change anything of reality. POFMA IS LIAR OR A HYPOCRITE OR BOTH, caught red-handed. We are in the fire of escalating infection rate saturation and crumbling healthcare capacity in its wake – regardless of official public pronouncement of comforting assurances in false hope.

    Until we can tame down the infection rate – there is no sign or realistic expectation of falling mortality rate instead actual infection could be actually higher than official statistics, and waiting behind that, mortality rate will surge ahead, inevitably.

    Vaccination achieves next to nothing of containment spread – it bark up the wrong tree. Home quarantine will simply add fuel to fire because of density proximity (contrary to social distancing and masking) trapping the family – it is like trapped in public transport 24 hrs/day filled with infected and yet to be infected – regardless of fully vaccinated or unvaccinated.

    At least these are my perceptions of prevailing reality.

    My thoughts are that we need TO ABANDON NOW the opening of border because (without giving up this illusory prize) it will escalate our risks in the face of false sense of security (just like vaccination is the silver bullet).PCR test at arrival without mandatory quarantine is unreliable of predictive detection and others could be unknowingly infected in flight.

    WE CAN’T PILE RISKS OF KNOWN FAILURE (vaccination) on unknown risks of imported infection in add on. Australia is doing the right thing – NO VISA for incoming international travel (despite its “opening” limited to citizen, PRs & immediate families only).

    We must not be blind of reality and instead, strive as hard as we can, to save as many as we can – not reckless of risks-taking now in such drowning defeat so obvious that vaccination outcome has failed completely of aimed for herd immunity goals.

    There is no economy worth saving in a sea of decimated or physically crippled population.

    The writer in this article is hallucinating fantasy fiction – his usual.

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  • Trust only myself:

    This stupid guy still posting almost every other day…….?
    Why don’t test, how are those vendors of ART kits and clinics doing PCR tests going to make money?

    ART kit average cost about $10 each and PCR test $160 each……..need to make money how?

    Maybe this guy should ask people not to buy insurance……

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  • Absurdity:

    TRE Techie:
    I agree with Mr Tan absolutely. The plan was to get everyone infected (more than 4 MILLION) so that the elusive “herd immunity” can hopefully be achieved.

    As such, test or don’t test also no relevance, if really sick go hospital lor, if no symptom, just stay at home to continue and infect others and help the LEEders achieve that elusive “herd immunity”.

    My back of toilet paper calculation shows, at the current rate of infection, it would take:

    Average 3000+ daily, so 100,000+ per month and we take 4,000,000 (target of infected) divided by 100,000 = 40 months, i.e. 3 years later to achieve “herd immunity”.

    Meanwhile, the unvaxxed will have to continue to loon, avoid the vaxxed, while people will continue to get injured and some die off. At the current death rate, of the target of 4 MILLION infected, about 10,000 will die.

    OR maybe the LEEders can speed things up a little instead of so many wayang policies, why not MANDATE that everyone enters a Covid-19 infested chamber to get infected quickly, save a lot of time and trouble, right?

    Just pass a new law can liao, easy right?

    The plan is NOT to get everyone infected. There will be certain people who will NOT be infected. That is the real plan.

    Tech: To realise “herd immunity”, science says about 83% to 93% of the population NEEDS to be infected. If the MTF is not going after “herd immunity”, then “live with the virus” for fun? Without “herd immunity”, people will continue to be infected and die off, then what logic is this? But then, teh LEEders will be very well protected, so they may not get infected, is that what you mean?

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  • Absurdity:

    @ TRE Techie, absolutely that’s what I mean. Just look at how scared they are.
    Cancelling all meet the people’s sessions for fear of getting the virus while
    other parties are working hard to connect to the ground and looking for cracks in the society.
    All these done while money roll furiously into the bank accounts of those leaders day after day.

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  • opposition dude:

    “It probably did litte, if any, to slow down the spread.”

    It’s been a couple of days since the unvaccinated were banned from dining in and all shopping centres. Not surprisingly the numbers haven’t gone down, they are still in the 3000 range. So this means what? That the vaccinated are spreading the virus in the shopping centres? That the unvaccinated are spreading the virus at kopitiams and hawker centres when they ta pao?

    Since the unvaccinated are removed from shopping centres more or less completely then we have to assume that if a cluster was found at any shopping centre then it’s obvious who are the ones spreading it. And with the clusters at a couple of nursing homes growing daily we also know that nursing home staff are the ones spreading to the residents since visits are prohibited by family members for now. Where did these staff get the virus from since they are all supposed to be fully vaccinated hmm?

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  • Vote for the Opposition:

    If you are not happy with what the pap govt is doing, VOTE FOR THE OPPOSITION IN THE NEXT ELECTION !!

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  • oxygen:

    @ Trust only myself

    IF NO NEED to test asymptomatic people, why does PAPpypolitics in such a hurried rush of pushing out useless “booster” jabs to the entire fully vaccinated population even before vaccinating those under 12 with the same so-called mRNA vaccine first jab?

    Trust only myself: Maybe this guy should ask people not to buy insurance……

    UTTER LUDICROUS WINDY HAPPY CONTRADICTIONS of illogic from this guy!

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  • Save Our Seniors:

    If we go for zero Covid or live with Covid one has to do a cost analysis. Both scenarios are costly!

    I suggest a targeted approach which will be a COST-EFFECTIVE way to deal with Covid in SG!

    Looking at the deaths profiles of infected cases reported by MOH we can conclude that the seniors & those younger ones with underlying medical conditions are most vulnerable whether vaccinated or not.

    Collective immunity through vaccination is a myth!

    Look at UK:

    SG WILL DO WELL TO LEARN FROM KOREA & JAPAN & ADOPT EARLY MEDICAL INTERVENTION PLUS TARGETED MEASURES FOR SENIORS & VULNERABLES TO DEAL WITH A SNEAKY COVID!

    STOP THE VACCINATION DRIVE & BANNING THE UNVACCINATED TO ENTER SHOPPING MALLS, DINING-IN & STANDALONE STORES!

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  • Save Our Seniors:

    Look at UK:
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/high-recorded-mortality-in-countries-categorized-as-covid-19-vaccine-champions-increased-hospitalization/5757173

    Save Our Seniors:
    If we go for zero Covid or live with Covid one has to do a cost analysis. Both scenarios are costly!

    I suggest a targeted approach which will be a COST-EFFECTIVE way to deal with Covid in SG!

    Looking at the deaths profiles of infected cases reported by MOH we can conclude that the seniors & those younger ones with underlying medical conditions are most vulnerable whether vaccinated or not.

    Collective immunity through vaccination is a myth!

    Look at UK:

    SG WILL DO WELL TO LEARN FROM KOREA & JAPAN & ADOPT EARLY MEDICAL INTERVENTION PLUS TARGETED MEASURES FOR SENIORS & VULNERABLES TO DEAL WITH A SNEAKY COVID!

    STOP THE VACCINATION DRIVE & BANNING THE UNVACCINATED TO ENTER SHOPPING MALLS, DINING-IN & STANDALONE STORES!

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  • poorMath.:

    TRE Techie:
    I agree with Mr Tan absolutely. The plan was to get everyone infected (more than 4 MILLION) so that the elusive “herd immunity” can hopefully be achieved.

    As such, test or don’t test also no relevance, if really sick go hospital lor, if no symptom, just stay at home to continue and infect others and help the LEEders achieve that elusive “herd immunity”.

    My back of toilet paper calculation shows, at the current rate of infection, it would take:

    Average 3000+ daily, so 100,000+ per month and we take 4,000,000 (target of infected) divided by 100,000 = 40 months, i.e. 3 years later to achieve “herd immunity”.

    Meanwhile, the unvaxxed will have to continue to loon, avoid the vaxxed, while people will continue to get injured and some die off.

    At the current death rate, of the target of 4 MILLION infected, about 80,000 will die.

    OR maybe the LEEders can speed things up a little instead of so many wayang policies, why not MANDATE that everyone enters a Covid-19 infested chamber to get infected quickly, save a lot of time and trouble, right?

    Just pass a new law can liao, easy right?

    My math. is very poor, I wonder how you calculate 80,000 will die over 40 months when the average death is less than 10 (ten) in the past few weeks per day.

    40 months x 30 days x 10 persons = is it equal to 12,000 or 80,000 die? Or maybe infected will go up to 65 persons everyday. Guess is possible as ECHO variant is round the corner.

    btw, I think only Sg_poor_eans and Sg_pr will die, (4,000,000) Work permit holders (1,700,000), will not die as they are non-residents(they are temporary in Sg, so the virus will not want to kill them (virus is sympathetic to them as virus know dying in a “foreign” is a sad situation.
    population= 5,700,000 as at 2021

    Tech: MOH’s current death rate is 0.2, that’s where I got my figures from. Of course like you said, there are foreign FTs, they may leave, so it’s a variable that is not included in my calculation.

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  • Harder Truths:

    Is this TKL Emeritus by any chance?

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  • TKL missed the point:

    The tests are still useful because if it turns out positive then the infected person can take measures to prevent infecting others. The test should be viewed from the point of view of both those who took it and the results and the impact of the results on others.

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  • More PAP bullshit:

    Straits Times: Living with birds and bees: 16 HDB projects lauded for good design, construction

    HDB design might be good but the construction is not because it is done mainly by basically unskilled “cheap” foreign workers. Shoddy work is the norm in the local construction/renovation industry. For this blame PAP.

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  • Siam Ripe:

    Ah Tan ah, completely don’t test all guarantee drop to two digits can open concerts, exhibitions, Geylang, Orchards Tower,…bra, bra, bra.

    You are Hum Sen good follower.

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  • Feedback:

    You again
    Are you illiterate and cannot visual the daily increase and death.
    Are you saying that just because people are vaccinated they can go around infecting others.
    You think it’s like catching Pokémon.
    You are seeing death on the elderly with under lying sickness.!
    What about people who are young with underlying sickness?
    If not knowing that whether one is positive and go around infecting others.
    Can the front liners cope with the huge influx .with your dumb suggestion!
    You act as though everything is normal. Please go study and read about how the Black Death started!
    Only Toad under a coconut shell will think of their own selfishness.
    Well – Time …will tell …I am hoping that since you are fully vaccinated and with a booster shot! You can talk cock sing a song. If you have symptoms of not Covid 19 but SARS or mutated new variant !!! Please no need ART or PCR to test. Don’t even need to see a doctor. But you better Pray very hard that DEATH don’t come knocking at your door. Anyway, you are health without any sickness. No need Oxygen! Like you friend did. Your friend is one of the lucky few who could afford expensive medicine. Hahaha.
    MTF don’t need you to parrot like a mad puppy!
    You are confusing people!!!!
    You are implying that people who are positive should not test and the household can carry on doing the daily routine!!!! So you are suggesting no need SHN. Going around spreading the Delta variants!
    Go to the corner and face the wall!
    Think Think hard how dumb a person can be!

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  • @Feedback

    Does vaccination really help prevent infection and deaths? On the contrary!

    Go read this well-researched article to understand why “herd immunity” is only an aspiration that cannot be achived.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/high-recorded-mortality-in-countries-categorized-as-covid-19-vaccine-champions-increased-hospitalization/5757173

    It is the vaccination that is causing the spread and death.

    Feeling screwed now? lol

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  • poorMath:

    poorMath.: My math. is very poor, I wonder how you calculate 80,000 will die over 40 months when the average death is less than 10 (ten) in the past few weeks per day.

    40 months x 30 days x 10 persons = is it equal to 12,000 or 80,000 die? Or maybe infected will go up to 65 persons everyday. Guess is possible as ECHO variant is round the corner.

    btw, I think only Sg_poor_eans and Sg_pr will die, (4,000,000) Work permit holders (1,700,000), will not die as they are non-residents(they are temporary in Sg, so the virus will not want to kill them (virus is sympathetic to them as virus know dying in a “foreign” is a sad situation.
    population= 5,700,000 as at 2021

    Tech: MOH’s current death rate is 0.2%, that’s where I got my figures from. Of course like you said, there are foreign FTs, they may leave, so it’s a variable that is not included in my calculation.

    Please provide MOH LINK to show current death is 0.02% of 4,000,000 .hahaha
    MOH predicted future death of 80,000 in 40 months. I wonder MOH will be POFMA..ed or who?
    Hahahahah

    Tech: Daily MPH report “Over the last 28 days, of the 70,192 infected individuals, 98.6% had no or mild symptoms, 1.1% required oxygen supplementation, 0.1% required ICU care, and 0.2% has died.” You are right, it’s 0.2% and not 0.02%, which should be around 10,000. Not using a calculator, my bad.

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  • PoorEnglish:

    poorMath: Please provide MOH LINK to show current death is 0.02% of 4,000,000 .hahaha
    MOH predicted future death of 80,000 in 40 months. I wonder MOH will be POFMA..ed or who?
    Hahahahah

    Tech: Daily MPH report “Over the last 28 days, of the 70,192 infected individuals, 98.6% had no or mild symptoms, 1.1% required oxygen supplementation, 0.1% required ICU care, and 0.2% has died.” You are right, it’s 0.2% and not 0.02%, which should be around 10,000. Not using a calculator, my bad.

    My English is very poor, What I have read in quotes (means taken from MOH website is)
    0.2% has died in the past 28 days, out of about 70,000, so 0.2/100 x 70,000 = 2/1,000 x 70,000 infected persons gives me = 140 deaths for 28 days , means is 140/28 = 5 deaths per day on average for the past 28 days.
    THAT WOULD SOUNDS RIGHT. maybe you should go and count the number of deaths at the MOH website.
    I DO NOT THINK THERE ARE 10,000 deaths(0.2% x 4,000,000) so far or you are TRYING TO PREDICT 10,000 deaths in the next 40 months. HELLO “TECH STATISTICIAN OR CERTIFIED ACTUARIST)!
    You can refuse to print this message like the previous two messages. Anyway, I not bothered and I will not read TRE anymore, let alone post.
    Good Luck to tre and have a good life. Anyway tre is a website , will not catch the virus, be it 10,000 or 80,000 deaths now or in 40 months time.

    Tech: Yes, it is a PREDICTION based on MOH’s 0.2% published fatality rate which I applied the same to 4,000,000. If I were to take the stats for daily 3000 cases and more than 10 deaths per day, it would have been higher. AND the reason why the other 2 comments of yours did not appear is that you posted the same EXACT comments 3 times, so I replied to one and deleted the other 2.

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