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Bringing sense to this madness

Not going to happen.

There is no way to bring sense to this madness – that we would first incarcerate a low IQ person in solitary confinement on death row for a decade, and then still hang him by a rope, from his neck, till he dies.

And then after that, proudly say and boast to the world: such deaths deter others!

And then we drag out the next person in this never-ending madness, and declare the same.

Again.

Over and over.

Deluding ourselves.

We have some 30+ people on death row, the last I heard.

“We are social animals. Without that interaction with people, you are isolated. The worst punishment you can give a person is the isolation ward. You get hallucinations. Four walls, no books, no nothing.” – Lee Kuan Yew, 2010.

 

Andrew Loh

 

 

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21 Responses to “Bringing sense to this madness”

  • Not only do the prison services do that to “special watch” prisoners, even MINDEF’s detention barracks also put detainees in solitary for months at a go, nothing new here.

    Anyway, this poor chap probably already kee siao liao after 10 years in solitary, so maybe it is better to let him go instead of saving him. Besides, even if his death is commuted to life, what difference will it make when he has to continue to suffer and eventually die in prison.

    Wouldn’t it be more compassionate to just let him go, even though the treatment for his death is inhumane?

    Don’t know about others but if I were to be on a death sentence, I would rather swallow the bullet than spend the rest of my life in prison.

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  • Pioneer:

    At least, we have a Malaysian PM coming forward to save the Malaysian man going to be hanged in days from now! Human beings have feeling of love, hate, sadness, happiness, pain and sorrow, etc. etc. and the Malaysian PM is one of us ! Although the Malaysian man is wrong, but he is a human being, and human beings are born to make mistakes throughout their lifetime. Many of them learnt from their mistakes or wrong-doings, too. Tell us, who in their lives never make mistakes in SG from the highest ranks to the poor classes ?

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    If we do not hang the drug trafficker, they will turn Singapore into a drug city.

    City of drugs….Americunt democracy and freedom
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssjqeYSRn4U
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mtbt315dzO8

    Please google Philadephia Kensington….

    PAP supporters please print/distribute/share my post.
    In Dollar$ We Tru$t. Prai$e the Dollar$. Glory be with the Dollar$

    GE2024.PAP.Guarantee.Win.Again
    Majullah $PAP$ $PAP$ Huat$ Huat$ Huat$
    Singaporeans must be Cheaperer, Betterer, Fasterer
    Workers must accept wage sacrifices to keep businesses going.

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  • illiterate pap voters:

    Singaporeans R Free Riders:
    If we do not hang the drug trafficker, they will turn Singapore into a drug city.

    City of drugs….Americunt democracy and freedom
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssjqeYSRn4U
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mtbt315dzO8

    Please google Philadephia Kensington….

    PAP supporters please print/distribute/share my post.
    In Dollar$ We Tru$t. Prai$e the Dollar$. Glory be with the Dollar$

    GE2024.PAP.Guarantee.Win.Again
    Majullah $PAP$ $PAP$ Huat$ Huat$ Huat$
    Singaporeans must be Cheaperer, Betterer, Fasterer
    Workers must accept wage sacrifices to keep businesses going.

    Hahaha.

    Look at how the stupidestest pap PA paid IB from Msia is lying again.

    This stupidestest pap PA paid IB from Msia was caught lying. But denied vehemently not lying as if can elak being caught.

    Now trying to BS again. Luckily cotton sheep is not as stupid like this Msia stupidestest hired by pap PA as pap IB.

    Hahaha.

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  • xoxo:

    Even after annihilating this malaysian,DRUG$ N SEX N GAMBLING TRIO WILL STILL ABOUND$?
    ONLY BLIND-FAITH DAFT sgs like the IBs here say otherwise.
    Even as we discourse here,some BIG GUN DRUG LORD may be dining n wining with some minister or some High Court Judge?

    Cant believe stupid idiots keep coming here to spill nonsense thinking they are superior n calling critics here as ignorant when they are clearly total boot-licking IDIOT$ themselves!

    @ Singaporeans R Free Eiders surely know where he belongs.
    An idiotic guy like him has much to learn from sincere sgs here on TRE.

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  • Powerful:

    Shame loves his POWER!

    Don’t take it from him! The MOST powerful man in sinkiland, if not the world!

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    @ If we do not hang the drug trafficker, they will turn Singapore into a drug city.

    Seconded.

    Lets be fair.

    Our death penalty against drug trafficking has been in force decades ago.

    Foreigners know the risk versus return.
    If you insist then you face the music.

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  • Never play black magic.....:

    His $$$elf-indulgent karma will confine him to his rationalized madne$$ over his imagined Dominion over the nation as he approaches his evil end$$$.

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  • bgkl:

    A low-IQ man incarcerated and sentenced to death after a long purgatory…

    Whereas a religious extremist who is prepared to die will be counseled and rehabilitate for his skewed values towards his religion.

    Reminds me of “If you owe the bank $10,000, it’s your problem. If you owe the bank $1 million, it’s the bank’s problem.”

    That’s how influence and power works. You can practically see it plays out everyday!

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  • Facts:

    Got solid evidence then can ask one.

    Malaysia Head of state got some grounds

    Then can request one.Ours don’t say lah.

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  • Billy ma:

    Question: Was his low IQ known after the crime or on his record long long ago?

    Since the main contention is all about his low IQ, it’s important to understand all facts.

    If his low IQ happened only after his crime, then all the argument is just to make some noises, whatever noises, on this case.

    Bit if his low IQ is on record, say in his school days, then the fact can be push for clemency.

    Otherwise, all these push & petitions are not going to convince the people in power to reconsider.

    Most, if not all, know that drugs are dangerous to people, especially the families.
    Even with Death penalty in place, there are & will be people business as usual, until they got caught then all the sad stories start to appear.

    Hope this case is not one like them.

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  • Harder Truths:

    Regime will make sure he is vaccinated first before sending him off. Always must follow policy no matter what.

    Anyway Cancerman has not long to live. Look at him, he is already half dead. No one knows when he ill croak.His underlings are trying to desperately curry favour to be the next Emperor. He will surely be in dire straits before the next election (if there is such a thing).

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    PAP mandate strong:
    @ If we do not hang the drug trafficker, they will turn Singapore into a drug city.

    Seconded.

    Lets be fair.

    Our death penalty against drug trafficking has been in force decades ago.

    Foreigners know the risk versus return.
    If you insist then you face the music.

    Exactly … those who wish to be humane towards the drug addicts and trafficker, you can host them in your house, church or temple.

    Put the money where your mouth is..Don’t hide here to talk cawk …

    PAP supporters please print/distribute/share my post.
    In Dollar$ We Tru$t. Prai$e the Dollar$. Glory be with the Dollar$

    GE2024.PAP.Guarantee.Win.Again
    Majullah $PAP$ $PAP$ Huat$ Huat$ Huat$
    Singaporeans must be Cheaperer, Betterer, Fasterer
    Workers must accept wage sacrifices to keep businesses going.

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  • Breaking news: 5 from same household can dine in restaurants, but not hawker centres & coffee shops from 10 Nov; assessing data to extend vaccination to children aged 5 to 11; unvaccinated by choice pay for medical bills from 8 Dec; VTL Malaysia (KL airport), Finland, Sweden!

    The clowns at MTF really kee xiao liao, chut pattern here and there, must be damned desperate liao. the VTL from Malaysia means teh variants lacking in Sinkieland will be imported, like the Mu, etc. This is going to be fun.

    Not enough? Don’t worry, got some more pattern one, like those who refuses to go for booster may be considered unvax lor.

    Now Sinkies got feel pain or not? Shiock or not?

    This can be classified as madness or not?

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    Billy ma:
    Question: Was his low IQ known after the crime or on his record long long ago?

    Since the main contention is all about his low IQ, it’s important to understand all facts.

    If his low IQ happened only after his crime, then all the argument is just to make some noises, whatever noises, on this case.

    Bit if his low IQ is on record, say in his school days, then the fact can be push for clemency.

    Otherwise, all these push & petitions are not going to convince the people in power to reconsider.

    Most, if not all, know that drugs are dangerous to people, especially the families.
    Even with Death penalty in place, there are & will be people business as usual, until they got caught then all the sad stories start to appear.

    Hope this case is not one like them.

    Very sensible Opposition supporter… unlikely to be canon fodders to be used and dumped by Martin Lee type of leader.

    PAP supporters please print/distribute/share my post.
    In Dollar$ We Tru$t. Prai$e the Dollar$. Glory be with the Dollar$

    GE2024.PAP.Guarantee.Win.Again
    Majullah $PAP$ $PAP$ Huat$ Huat$ Huat$
    Singaporeans must be Cheaperer, Betterer, Fasterer
    Workers must accept wage sacrifices to keep businesses going.

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  • Robert:

    The fact that the drugs were strapped to his legs and tried to be hidden reinforces the point that he was aware of the criminal nature of what he was doing. So, I have my doubts about his low IQ as an argument.

    There are those who argue that the desperate poor who resort to being mules are the ones who suffer while the real brains are untouched.

    Being poor is not an excuse to resort to being a drug mule. Because if we use poverty as an excuse, what about other crimes? Do we excuse them too? Don’t forget if there are no mules, the distribution and sale of drugs will be minimal.

    Notwithstanding that, I am against imposing the death penalty. I would much prefer sending the hundreds or thousands to life imprisonment than have one wrongly executed.

    Having said that, for those trying to save this man from the hangman, putting pressure so publicly would not yield the desired results.

    No government wants to be seen as giving in to public pressure. The clever way would be to quietly use persuasion – it might yield better results.

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    Robert:
    Notwithstanding that, I am against imposing the death penalty. I would much prefer sending the hundreds or thousands to life imprisonment than have one wrongly executed.

    Trying to make sense out of this.

    So, assuming there are thousands of them who live up till 90 from the day he was arrested at 30 years old.

    Where do you get the money to feed them for life ?

    Keep on increasing tax and pass their cost to the useful and productive people ? Do the people agreed to pay more taxes to feed such parasites ?

    Drug & zombie city ..welcome to freedom, human rights and democratic
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTknz9IroiQ

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  • Yes, Robert is the difference:

    Yes, Robert is the difference!

    Robert:
    The fact that the drugs were strapped to his legs and tried to be hidden reinforces the point that he was aware of the criminal nature of what he was doing. So, I have my doubts about his low IQ as an argument.

    There are those who argue that the desperate poor who resort to being mules are the ones who suffer while the real brains are untouched.

    Being poor is not an excuse to resort to being a drug mule. Because if we use poverty as an excuse, what about other crimes? Do we excuse them too? Don’t forget if there are no mules, the distribution and sale of drugs will be minimal.

    Notwithstanding that, I am against imposing the death penalty. I would much prefer sending the hundreds or thousands to life imprisonment than have one wrongly executed.

    Having said that, for those trying to save this man from the hangman, putting pressure so publicly would not yield the desired results.

    No government wants to be seen as giving in to public pressure. The clever way would be to quietly use persuasion – it might yield better results.

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  • Ownself Bluff Ownself:

    They have signed agreements with the Virus from 10 Nov onwards not to attack restaurant if there are 5. 6, go ahead to attack.

    They are signed agreements with the Virus from 10 Nov onwards not to attack hawker centres & coffee shops if there are 2. 3, go ahead to attack.

    And the mother of all agreements signed with the Virus is not to attack buses & trains forever.

    What an achievement, all experts & leaders must learn from them. The Virus is so obedient. Unbelievable!

    TRE Techie:
    Breaking news: 5 from same household can dine in restaurants, but not hawker centres & coffee shops from 10 Nov

    This can be classified as madness or not?

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  • Hallucine:

    Even covid on Singapore law side.

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  • Kryzi:

    Our law something walk using their head and pick up things with the feet!

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