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What is wrong with the COP?

It is a pain to watch the examinations of Ms Loh Pei Ying and Ms Raeesah Khan by Minister Edwin Tong and his team. While they try to appear fair, polite, understanding, patient and even sympathetic to the witnesses, it is not difficult to see that all of them were not trying to ascertain facts but were looking for slip ups and words that would make the leaders of the Workers’ Party look bad and set the witnesses on a war path with the leaders of the party. It is evident that their line of questioning and suggestions are intended to inflict maximum damage on its leadership.

The committee’s hypocrisy is shown from the speed at which their first Special Report was published – on 3 December 2021 or soon after the evidence of the first batch of three witnesses (Ms Loh Pei Ying, Ms Raeesah Khan and Mr Yudhishthra Nathan were taken. In paragraph 6 of the report, the committee arrived at this decision:

“After hearing the above witnesses, the Committee resolved to make the entire video recording of their evidence available to Parliament and thereby to the public through the Parliament website.”

If the committee have an iota of consideration for the witnesses, especially Ms Raeesah Khan, they would not have made the video recordings public for audiences not only in Singapore but all over the world. Further, what and where is the urgency for such an interim report to be made public when other witnesses who they intend to call have not testified?

I am exceedingly disappointed by the action of the so called “fact finding” objective of the Committee of Privileges. Totally devoid of understanding and empathy (though Minister Edwin Tong kept repeating “I understand” during the proceedings), they have savaged Ms Raeesah Khan, a victim of a sexual assault. It is hypocritical to continuously use this phrase “victim of sexual assault” and pretend that it would alleviate the trauma of the victim when by their actions, they have aggravated the trauma of the victim. What they should have done was to keep the proceedings within the chambers and publish in written form at the appropriate time as they have done in past proceedings.

PAP ministers are not known for being compassionate to opposition political parties. If they have an opportunity to score political points, they would do their utmost. This means employing means that may not be fair or even contrary to the rules of the game, in this case, parliament. And this is what they have done.
On 4 October 2021, Ms Raeesah Khan was subjected to threats by Minister Shanmugam after she refused to disclose information he requested. He threatened that the police would contact her for “an interview”. The police naturally obeyed the Minister and followed up by email requests. All these appear in the police statement annexed to the Special Report.

The minister knew full well when he made the threat that a lie uttered in parliament should be rectified in parliament as it is privileged. Why did he make the threat and instruct the police to investigate Ms Raeesah Khan? Is he taking advantage of Ms Raeesah Khan’s lack of experience and ignorance? As a minister for law and home affairs, I do not expect such conduct from him.

Finally, I am not amused at the speaker, Tan Chuan Jin’s repeated assurance at the end of the taking of evidence of each witness. Why did he tell each of them “… Do note that the transcript and any evidence given to the committee are not to be disclosed to anyone, not to be published and kept strictly confidential until the committee has presented it report to parliament which means that you are not to discuss this with anyone else and would include your family as well.”

Are committee members robots? Do they know what they themselves have done by making the proceedings public even before its conclusion?

 

Teo Soh Lung

 

 

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39 Responses to “What is wrong with the COP?”

  • opposition dude:

    So we basically can see just how much effort PAP will put into making the opposition look bad, letting aliens in and of course, increasing the costs of public transport, GST and all that.

    If only they would put so much of that effort into actually making our lives better eh?

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  • theforgottongeneration:

    What’s wrong with the COP? It is orchestrated by the pappies, and as everyone knows, what they orchestrate is to make themselves look good (or conversely to make others look worse than them).

    Sure, when a public servant is untruthful, then some investigation and maybe disciplinary action is required. But national policies and priorities have to be consistent. Do the pappies hold themselves to the same standards? Or we have only million$-paid hypocrites, which are worse than 200K-paid lying MPs.

    Just think – now we are grasping with the new variant of covid. Ah Loong even said covid is the most challenging crisis since our independence. Yet, MTF/MOH has stopped providing daily details of infection cases, which includes DEATHS daily nowadays. But they consider “timely” releases of “special reports” on the COP is much more important to the public. So deaths – not serious; lying – very serious, hor?

    And why trying to spin WP telling RK to “maintain the narrative”? The pappies have been maintaining the narrative that they deserved to be paid million$, even though everyone can see there are clowns and even a sia suay king in Loong’s administration. Even LKY called the 3G as COMPLACENT (when MKS escaped from detention). Our highest paid golden flying pig after 17 years still cannot fly, hor. Public NOT INFORMED about the 4G succession progress but given special reports about RK case instead. How screwed up the priorities is that?

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  • Harder Truths:

    look. We all know they are given orders from ‘Atas’ to destroy the opposition. The same with anyone else employed by them. Be they judges, police or party members. They will stop at nothing to keep their power and positions. And the money. Never forget the money.

    What is happening now is nothing more than we expected. The WP themselves made this farce look like shooting fish in a barrel. If there was a more useless bunch of opposition MP’s, this is definitely them.

    There were some real opposition MP’s out there before. But they are smart and do not want to invest in an electorate who will stab them in the back. After seeing how JBJ and CST were abandoned it is no wonder they are lying low.

    To the public – you reap what you sow. Now you can enjoy what is left of your vaccinated life before you get replaced by FT or end up in SGH from ‘CoVID complications’.

    Karma is a . Get used to it.

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  • Lop-sided COP:

    Not just a few bully one.
    Why the one no lawyer assisted? Even in a court of justice, the defendant has a lawyer to advise, and to stop malicious questions, or irrelevant questions.

    Here, it’s similar to torture. Whatever they ask, the defendant MUST answer. When did you last have sex? With whom? How? What? Why? What is going on?

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    Hahaha…There is no need for my master PM Lee to fix the Opposition…..

    Opposition ownself pwn ownself…we must not trust Opposition except PAP.

    Lies by Opposition:
    1. Dr M said he will remove GST if he win the election.

    After winning the election, yes he removed GST by renaming it to SST.

    2. 「ECFA是糖衣毒藥,喪權辱國的不對稱條約。」這是2010年3月時任民進黨主席蔡英文對《兩岸經濟合作架構協議》(ECFA)的公開抨擊
    https://tw.news.yahoo.com/%E7%95%B6%E5%B9%B4%E7%B3%96%E8%A1%A3%E6%AF%92%E8%97%A5-%E7%8F%BE%E5%9C%A8%E8%88%94%E8%91%97%E4%B8%8D%E6%94%BE-201000895.html

    In 2010 then Opposition Democratic leader Tsai attack the FTA (ECFA) with China as sugar coated poison unequal treaty…and must be stopped.

    After winning the election, President Tsai continue the ECFA till today for 11 years …

    Why the fcuk she continue to swallow the sugar coated poison ?

    It is all lies by the then Opposition Democratic Party.

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  • Realistically:

    Teo Soh Lung and the wayang-party IB’s and MPs-wanna-be et al, continue to betray their utter disregard for the overall good of sinkies and SINKaPOOR in this saga, AGAINST THE FACTS, as I have shown in the other thread:

    https://www.tremeritus.net/2021/12/14/workers-party-to-re-assess-its-destiny/

    I am particularly disgusted with the comments of Tan Bah Bah of the Independent online newspaper and the just read thrash by Nicholas Yang of Yahoo @ https://sg.yahoo.com/news/comment-meme-makers-won-raeesah-khan-saga-074727267.html

    Both Tan, who had resorted to Andrew Loh – eh Tan what constructive criticism has Andrew made in his WHOLE life towards the sinkies and SINKaPOOR – and Nicholas Yong dwell on the fact that PS’s COP session lasted 9 hrs, while Raeesah appearance b4 the COP lasted around 3 hrs in total.

    Has it occur to ANY of you that Raeeesah had been truthful in her replies to the COP’s question whereas PS is any thing BUT………he was EVASIVE and CONTRIVED even inconsistent with the FACTS ans I had wrote in the other thread mentioned above?

    Maybe people like Teo Soh Lung, Tan Bah Bah, Nicholas Yong should be reminded of PS’s raising the Mayors’ combine pay of $3.6 million per year forming only 0.03% of the Budget against the fact that the mayors’ pay does not in anyway reflect the epic failure of the emperor without clothes MMTF mismanagement of the COVID-19 pandemic with the resultant loss of hundreds PREVENTABLE DEATHS, several hundred thousands being infected and the negative impact on the economy while the wayang-party MPs like PS, SYLVIA Lim, Faisal Manap, Jamus Lim etc and the PAPie MPs can continue to luxuriate on their $16k monthly MP allowance while sinkies continue to suffer, loss of earnings and other miseries…….Not to talk about other areas of mismanagement which even then MTI Minister Chan Chun Sing had warned of the dangers facing SINKaPOOR and sinkies.

    So what the F do we need wayang-party MPs for……Teo Soh Lung, Tan Bah Bah, Nicholas Yong, Andrew Loh etc?

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  • Realistically:

    Oh for Pritam Singh the expert exponent of snake oil salesmanship, to raise Vivian Balakrishnan’s assurance about confidentiality of the TT token data/trace together app being used for contact tracing purpose, Bala did NOT “LIE” simply because the fact that the Police can have access to such info is provided in the Statute law called Criminal Procedure Code. Sylvia Lim, being a former Police Prosecutor should have known of Bala’s ‘MISTAKE’ from the onset, but chose to remain quiet………….and so was PS who IS a LAWYER.

    This ONLY shows that PS is not, has not and never will be a ‘good lawyer’ because he cannot DISTINGUISH Bala’s ‘MISTAKE’ and Raeesah wilful “LIE” not once, not twice, but THREE TIMES……………in Parliament.

    So what does Teo Soh Lung say?

    Ditto Tan Bab Bah, Nicholas Yong, Andrew Loh and the wayang-party’s MPs-wanna-be, IBs and others?

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  • Realistically:

    COP member David Tan from the wayang-party does seem to know about the Oath/Affirmation the witness took at the beginning to “tell the WHOLE TRUTH and NOTHING but the TRUTH”.

    How was asking Sylvia Lim being a former Police officer without also asking SL WHEN and for how LONG she had been in the Police force be consistent with the Oath/Affirmation for the witness to tell the WHOLE truth? If is a FACT I believe, that SL had LEFT the Police Force at least 15 years AGO……….and that the CURRENT Police force is much different from the one SL left a long long time ago.

    Ah such kind of nonsense means NOTHING to Teo Soh Lung, Tan Bah Bah, Nicholas Yong, Andrew Loh etc, I suppose with their motivated objectives, but would rant about Raeesah being questioned for around 3 hrs in total while Pritam Singh, with his answers inconsistent with the FACTS as shown, had been “interrogated” for 9 hours……………how unjust, according to the likes of those mentioned!!!

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  • GCB:

    Mediocre

    Can’t support his mother in-law .

    Before Tong accepted PM Lee’s offer, he sought ESM Goh’s advice:

    Edwin Tong, he is a Senior Counsel, he earns more than $2 million. PM asked him to be a Minister of State, one quarter. He came to see me. He said at this stage of his life, he has got a house, he has got a mother-in-law to support, a father-in-law to support, his own parents and so on, what should he do? So I asked him, Edwin, what were you in politics for? Here to serve. So I said you’ve got to serve, well, you know between $2 million and perhaps half a million, later on you hopefully become a full Minister, $1 million, you have to decide which is more important. So Edwin told me his job in politics is to serve, he said yes, I will take on, and he felt very strongly that he could do the job.

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  • theforgottongeneration:

    GCB:
    …. So Edwin told me his job in politics is to serve, he said yes, I will take on, and he felt very strongly that he could do the job.

    Must define what is “to serve” in PAP language. Please list what are the significant contributions by Edwin Tong to Singaporeans/SG so far, relevant for his million$ pay – has he served Singaporeans or he served himself to serve his master?

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  • RK:

    So much effort and resource over a lying RK.
    Better spend the effort to help Singaporean cope with this Pandemic.
    Many are suffering…especially those in private sector badly affected by Covid or jobless.

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  • PAP d Predator:

    The COP formed by Parliaments majority the PAP believed they were, and acted as such, Political Policemen, law enforcers, judge, and executioner.

    Was there any neutrality present in the minds, and actions of the COP – in fairness, morals, respect, manners?

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  • COP is witchhunting:

    IT is very obvious ,PAP is trying to destroy oppositions and WP .
    THEY are very obvious in the ways they posed questions in the COP, is all about witchhunting ,and trying to inflict damage to WP….to score political points.
    IT IS NOT A FACT FINDING COMMITTEE, ALL CAN SEE IT.
    WASTING VAST public resources,whatever come out of the findings it will be definitely to smear WP LEADERS.
    Raeesah KHAN has herself to blame and not others.
    She started the mess and repeatedly lies ,carry non stop.
    IF she is mentally ill, PAP COP SHOULD STOP IT,but instead still carry out
    its witchhunting.
    NOW hardly people are interested in the RK case and COP..
    No one believe PAP COP findings….
    EVEN pap lies many time in the past.
    The most recent one is Trace Contact, kept it a secret till 4 mths later to tell the truth.
    Just before GE 2015 promise to lower the costs of livings and after GE 2015
    prices of goods,groceries, ERP,SCHOOL FEES,CAR PARK FEES, and many things,ETC,ETC raised up very fast.
    WE are witnessing another series of rapid rising of prices in many things after GE 2020.
    ABOUT COVID 19 ,first no need to wear facemask saying it is safe, later made a law to wear mask, with many rules keep changing.
    HAWKER food centres under MOE,PAP PRIVATISED them,now one stall rental fees can be in $4000 to $6000 per mth.
    Previously under MOE , THE RENTAL IS JUST A FEW HUNDRED DOLLARS..
    so with high rental , the foods prices have to raise up very high,further fueling the costs of living.
    ALL these are directly the results of PAP POLICIES.
    Opposition too weak with 9 seats, PAP has over 80 seats,so they do what they like.
    U give them the mandate, so dont blame others but yourself in this predicament for your sufferings and family incurring more expenses and depleting your disposable income making u much poorer.
    In order to made PAP ACCOUNTABLE AND TO HAVE TRANSPARENCY AND LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE.
    U have to give oppositions about 35 seats in parliament to check and question them vigoriously.
    U HAVE TO GIVE THIS MANDATE OF ABOUT 35 SEATS IN PARLIAMENT TO OPPOSITIONS.
    IF NO OPPOSTION, NO ONE HAS THE MANDATE TO ASK THEM AND QUESTION THEM,AN AUTOCRAT AND AN AUTHORITIAN RULE ALREADY HERE FOR MANY YRS.
    YOUR CHILDREN,GRANDCHILDREN HAVE NO FUTURE UNDER PAP IN TIMES TO COME.
    THINK!!!

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  • Dr Tan Tai Wei:

    Having considered it important enough to send her for psychiatric assessment, why was it that only the WP MP in the Committee was interested to ask questions of the “expert” psychiatrist after his initial very cursory and unhelpful statements? Only Zacky Mohammed, and he only to get the expert to reiterate what he had repeatedly said, that she had been of sound mind, (“perfect mind” were his words, which the expert had to rightly correct). And Edwin Tong, who seemingly ruthless many times at pursuing Pritam, stopping him when when he felt need to explain, etc.,etc., even accusing and prejudging him (rather than just “fact-finding”) to be unbecoming of humanity when he suggested sending her for the very psychiatric exam. (apparently the Committee had overruled him here)? Didn’t see the need to ask the expert on pertinent details, eg., why was her own psychiatrist’s assessment that she had “symptoms” of disassociation not pursued by the expert and how he could have come to his so sure conclusions when ignoring a professional colleague’s still ongoing treatment and assessment (which must be based upon professional observations of her ongoing behaviour seemingly having kept out of our expert’s purview of his assessment)? And what our expert meant when he seemingly claimed that displaying “symptoms” of dissociation is not the same as suffering dissociation when the diagnosis must largely be based upon symptoms? Why was the characteristically over-curious Edwin Tong so satisfied by the bald assertions of the expert?

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  • illiterate pap voters:

    pap gutter politics.

    that is why Singapore needs a New Government by a better group of Singaporeans to clean up parleeement and rename it back to Parliament.

    FIXING oppo has been pap motto.

    but the mandate of heaven says, honesty over anything else.

    that is why when pap tried to FIX WP via the created Aljunied GRC saga, WP won more votes in Aljunied.

    What are we trying to say?

    pap FIXING of WP won’t work. pap shall lose more GRCs in GE2024.

    pap PA paid IBs ask, more GRCs?

    Yes. Besides Aljunied and Sengkang, WP shall also win Marine Parade and East Coast.

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  • YES or NO:

    //Oh for Pritam Singh the expert exponent of snake oil salesmanship, to raise Vivian Balakrishnan’s assurance about confidentiality of the TT token data/trace together app being used for contact tracing purpose, Bala did NOT “LIE” simply because the fact that the Police can have access to such info is provided in the Statute law called Criminal Procedure Code.//

    yar lor, then all the more the mistake by the ministar should be made known soon after BECAUSE of the people’s trust AND perception on the assurance given about confidentiality ??

    PS is “smart”, why hor should he stick to the path carved out by someone all out to “get” him OR why should he be confined to what should be raised or not raised ?? anyway, the See-OH-P is not going to make things easier for him either OR confined to any line of questioning (YES or NO ???) ??

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  • they are a whole talented lot:

    //How was asking Sylvia Lim being a former Police officer without also asking SL WHEN and for how LONG she had been in the Police force be consistent with the Oath/Affirmation for the witness to tell the WHOLE truth?//

    then ask the white wayang gang to do away with the Oak/Afirmation thingy lar since they must also know (they are a whole talented lot hor ??) what you know ??

    //I suppose with their motivated objectives, but would rant about Raeesah being questioned for around 3 hrs in total while Pritam Singh, with his answers inconsistent with the FACTS as shown, had been “interrogated” for 9 hours……………how unjust, according to the likes of those mentioned!!!//

    aiyoh. do you mean the white wayang gang does not have any motivated objectives in this 9 hours vs 3 hours drama ??

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  • Dr Tan Tai Wei:

    O, one more thing. The Chairman of that “fact-finding” Committee, who not once checked Edwin Tong, tried to stop WP MP when he rightly asked the expert psychiatric witness on the possible diverse symptoms of post-traumatic mal-behaviour of sexual assault, which Ms Khan might well have presented, but which the expert had so assertively ruled out so neatly (despite the pointlessness of her lie and her having been seeing her own psychiatrist/counsellor, and the professional diagnosis that she presented “symptoms of dissociation”). The theoretical and fine distinction was made between what are possibilities generally considered, and what pertain to the case at hand; the former our Chairman claimed were “irrelevant” and therefore the WP MP had to stop asking the theoretical. Who was being theoretical and difficult?

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  • GCB:

    I don’t usually use question mark .

    A Full Stop .

    theforgottongeneration:
    What’s wrong with the COP? It is orchestrated by the pappies, and as everyone knows, what they orchestrate is to make themselves look good (or conversely to make others look worse than them).

    Sure, when a public servant is untruthful, then some investigation and maybe disciplinary action is required. But national policies and priorities have to be consistent. Do the pappies hold themselves to the same standards? Or we have only million$-paid hypocrites, which are worse than 200K-paid lying MPs.

    Just think – now we are grasping with the new variant of covid. Ah Loong even said covid is the most challenging crisis since our independence. Yet, MTF/MOH has stopped providing daily details of infection cases, which includes DEATHS daily nowadays. But they consider “timely” releases of “special reports” on the COP is much more important to the public. So deaths – not serious; lying – very serious, hor?

    And why trying to spin WP telling RK to “maintain the narrative”? The pappies have been maintaining the narrative that they deserved to be paid million$, even though everyone can see there are clowns and even a sia suay king in Loong’s administration. Even LKY called the 3G as COMPLACENT (when MKS escaped from detention). Our highest paid golden flying pig after 17 years still cannot fly, hor. Public NOT INFORMED about the 4G succession progress but given special reports about RK case instead. How screwed up the priorities is that?

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  • illustrate something closer:

    //In 2010 then Opposition Democratic leader Tsai attack the FTA (ECFA) with China as sugar coated poison unequal treaty…and must be stopped.

    After winning the election, President Tsai continue the ECFA till today for 11 years …

    Why the fcuk she continue to swallow the sugar coated poison ?//

    aiyoh let’s illustrate something closer to sinkie land (or right inside sinkie land ???)?? like some sinkie land open-leg policy ?? even oppo become new garment, do you think can easily undo the open-leg policy and undo whatever agreements w/o any implications ??? some people shix and will even make sarcastic remark on whether others can do better than them and clear up the shit (in short make others look silly for not being able to come out with better suggestions to clean up the shix that one has created ??) ???

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  • Lazy tray:

    Getting a honesty vaccination also can prevent covid.i think.

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  • xoxo:

    My frens stay in condos where ang mohs n ah nehs live too.
    They told me many of them are damn shiok our gahmen gave them more grant$ than the $600 many needy n deserving nation-building senior citizens got even though Per Capita Grant is more like $23.5K.

    This is more than RK telling a lie to illustrate a truth!
    Edwin Tong is from La Salle school and a devout catholic.
    He shud also QUERY why needy sgs including many of his fellow catholic sgs got only $600 when they are supposed to receive a Per Capita Grant of $23.5K?

    Holier than thou?
    God is watching from a distance.

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  • no medicine can cure:

    // what constructive criticism has Andrew made in his WHOLE life towards the sinkies and SINKaPOOR //

    aiyoh. you did not observe angdrew for a long period meh ?? many years ago hor, angdrew used to be very balanced and measured in his views ?? but maybe hor now angdrew starts to understand (as many would have understood much earlier ??) that generally the white monkey idiots and gang really really got no medicine can cure, so now hor he is who he is today lar ??

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  • Harder Truths:

    Will the Circus Khanival ever stop? This will just go on and on and on…

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  • Liars:

    Besides being questioned by workers party Dennis tan, did anyone else in the cop questioned chriśtopher cheok?

    If no, why not, especially the play of words by tong?

    Even in the cop, we can see that even the work is politicized and bullying is at play!

    When humans are divided even in a privilege committee? What then is the truth and what is a lie?

    Shame lies when he dubbed the ceca debate as racist!

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    illustrate something closer:
    //In 2010 then Opposition Democratic leader Tsai attack the FTA (ECFA) with China as sugar coated poison unequal treaty…and must be stopped.

    After winning the election, President Tsai continue the ECFA till today for 11 years …

    Why the fcuk she continue to swallow the sugar coated poison ?//

    aiyoh let’s illustrate something closer to sinkie land (or right inside sinkie land ???)?? like some sinkie land open-leg policy ?? even oppo become new garment, do you think can easily undo the open-leg policy and undo whatever agreements w/o any implications ??? some people shix and will even make sarcastic remark on whether others can do better than them and clear up the shit (in short make others look silly for not being able to come out with better suggestions to clean up the shix that one has created ??) ???

    You got it all wrong …. Sugar Coated Poison Democracy ROC Taiwan beg ev1l China not to terminate the FTA….wahahahaha… thick skin liar

    昨批「糖衣毒藥」,今呼「不要終止」,面對ECFA,民進黨難道不覺得臉疼嗎?
    來源:https://twgreatdaily.com/TvmWI3QBeElxlkkaMwBD.html

    邱毅:蔡英文的“民主自由” 实则是包着糖衣的毒药!
    Loosely translated : Tsai’s Democracy & Freedom in reality is Sugar Coated Poison

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JedPo4Ei2s

    PAP supporters please print/distribute/share my post.
    In Dollar$ We Tru$t. Prai$e the Dollar$. Glory be with the Dollar$

    GE2024.PAP.Guarantee.Win.Again
    Majullah $PAP$ $PAP$ Huat$ Huat$ Huat$
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  • Why Spending Too Much On RK ?:

    My first question – Is Dr Cheok a PAP member ?

    Why do the Speaker, Ministers etc spending so much time on RK lies ? Don’t they have other more important jobs to do as they are paid million of dollars in salary ?

    Important jobs like find jobs for the Unemployed and Under Employed, Financial Aids for the old and elderly to take care of their health which is very very expensive in Singapore etc..

    The PAP is trying its best to pin down the leaders of WP. But I am not going to vote for the PAP based on this.

    What is most to me is Why are we still bring in many FTs to take the jobs of Singaporeans ? Do they really not care for the Singaporeans who have done NS and who have voted them in ?

    Why should we vote the PAP in again if they played us out ? No Way. Up to now they have not reduce the million dollars salaries of the Ministers and Elites. Do they really care about us ?

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  • Trust only myself:

    Unfortunately smart people know what the COP is trying to achieve but unthinking Singaporeans do not care about what the “real liars” are doing…..

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  • Dr Tan Tai Wei:

    Yet another thread the normally curious Edwin Tong might have pursued of the good psychiatrist, which he didn’t (either he wasn’t as smart a lawyer as Pritam said he was, or he just wasn’t interested when it wasn’t conducive to his favoured prejudgment?), was this. The psychiatrist said that the several times Ms Khan uncontrollably cried and became emotional when issues were raised related to her sexual assault experience were only normal of such assault cases, and therefore he neatly ruled those out as trauma symptoms. Now, it may be so that, nothing else at issue, those could be normal. But here we are seeing them in an entire context, where even fellow psychiatric/ counsellor assessments were available, if only they were more conscientiously pursued. And yet we have the good psychiatrist not even qualifying his expert conclusions, arrived at without even seen her psychiatric reports, leave alone considering the evidences supporting them, that she had been of “sound” mind (though not “perfect” mind as suggested by Zacky Mohammed; Edwin Tong did not ask why the qualification, and what exactly the imperfections).

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  • Smart Nation:

    What’s wrong? The CoP reeks heavily of PAP. The process is tainted by partisan politics. Any discerning person can see that the “inquisition” has gone beyond RK’s lie to take down the Opposition leaders. The “fact-finding” has turned into “fault-finding” inquiry. How much does it costs tax-payers a day as the inquiry drags on?

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  • To @GCB viz. Edwin Tong$$$:

    So basically Goh CT made the remark that Edwin was convinced he would & could handle the ministerial job for half a million bucks? Well, listen to him question Pritam at the Raeesah COI recently:

    “The circumstance that, in your mind, deviates from a usual situation in this case was what you have explained earlier (where you) when I asked you about at some point at which when we looked at in the first page of the press statement, correct? That was basically what made this case in your mind unusual.”

    Edwin Tong 39:45-40:10.

    (Comment)
    I was listening to the RK COP inquiry and was struck by the hubris and hypocrisy of the PAP board member Edwin Tong. If anyone were to direct this question at you, you would ask him to repeat himself 3 times, and still probably not understand what he was trying to ask. In fact, a run-on sentence like this would probably get you penalised in the most basic of school exams. Yet, during the COI, the minister for law Edwin Tong had the gall to claim that his questions were perfectly clear, and even reprimanded Singh for it, with truly amazing gems such as “If you had just listened to my question, you could’ve given me a clear answer” etc. … ad nauseam.

    In fact, the whole tone of Tong’s questioning approached that of an interrogation rather than a fact finding exercise. Is Edwin on the committee to shed light on the truth, or was it nothing more than an opportunistic witch-hunt out to tarnish the Opposition’s reputation?
    And the Committee chairman – if he did not concur – apparently acquiesced in Tong’s semantics….

    “Whiter than white?” More like the pot calling the kettle black.

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  • No wonder:

    Where did the rest of my $23,225 go?

    The gov must account for how the $100 billion is spent. How can OUR reserve disappear just like that?

    Get them all to take an oath and account for every dollar.

    xoxo:
    My frens stay in condos where ang mohs n ah nehs live too.
    They told me many of them are damn shiok our gahmen gave them more grant$ than the $600 many needy n deserving nation-building senior citizens got even though Per Capita Grant is more like $23.5K.

    This is more than RK telling a lie to illustrate a truth!
    Edwin Tong is from La Salle school and a devout catholic.
    He shud also QUERY why needy sgs including many of his fellow catholic sgs got only $600 when they are supposed to receive a Per Capita Grant of $23.5K?

    Holier than thou?
    God is watching from a distance.

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  • GCB:

    Since ………….

    Thru out ,

    I don’t even watch .

    To @GCB viz. Edwin Tong$$$:
    So basically Goh CT made the remark that Edwin was convinced he would & could handle the ministerial job for half a million bucks? Well, listen to him question Pritam at the Raeesah COI recently:

    “The circumstance that, in your mind, deviates from a usual situation in this case was what you have explained earlier (where you) when I asked you about at some point at which when we looked at in the first page of the press statement, correct? That was basically what made this case in your mind unusual.”

    Edwin Tong 39:45-40:10.

    (Comment)
    I was listening to the RK COP inquiry and was struck by the hubris and hypocrisy of the PAP board member Edwin Tong. If anyone were to direct this question at you, you would ask him to repeat himself 3 times, and still probably not understand what he was trying to ask. In fact, a run-on sentence like this would probably get you penalised in the most basic of school exams. Yet, during the COI, the minister for law Edwin Tong had the gall to claim that his questions were perfectly clear, and even reprimanded Singh for it, with truly amazing gems such as “If you had just listened to my question, you could’ve given me a clear answer” etc. … ad nauseam.

    In fact, the whole tone of Tong’s questioning approached that of an interrogation rather than a fact finding exercise. Is Edwin on the committee to shed light on the truth, or was it nothing more than an opportunistic witch-hunt out to tarnish the Opposition’s reputation?
    And the Committee chairman – if he did not concur – apparently acquiesced in Tong’s semantics….

    “Whiter than white?” More like the pot calling the kettle black.

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  • Realistically:

    @ To @GCB viz. Edwin Tong$$$:

    B4 u even touch on what u hv quoted Edwin Tong’s “interrogation” of PS, I suggest you should fully understand what’s expected of a witness……..”to tell the truth the WHOLE truth and NOTHING but the truth.”

    Was PS showing fidelity to his Oath/affirmation?

    I suggest NOT…………..and I’ve given the essential FACTUAL MATRIX of the case…….that Raeesah’s sexual assault happened in Australia around 10 yrs ago; that she is now married with 2 kids with her husband; that she repeated her LIE in Parliament the 2nd & 3rd time…….surely not what PS would characterise as “disassociation” the 2nd & 3d time; that Raeesah had not in her testimony or at any time or that PS/wayang-party had failed to notice potential problem wih her SUPPOSED mental condition to nominate her as a candidate etc………..that there had been an INEXPLICABLE silence on the matter of Raeesah’s lie on 3 August 2021 which PS, SL and FM, as the most senior wayang-party leadership were told by Raeesah herself to PS on 7/8 and SL & FM on 8/8?

    Not that the PAPie Minister like Edwin Tong or ANYONE of them shows much brilliance…………Common, I hv emailed the MOF, Tharman MMTF………….as I hv done since early 2000′s…………I can confidently say, and with the record that they aren’t as great as the 160th & other of the PAPie propaganda would hv sinkies believe……..which is why we hv so many PREVENTABLE deaths & the severe negative effect on SINKaPOOR economy and society wise…………….and where have YOU been?

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  • Realistically:

    @ To @GCB viz. Edwin Tong$$$:

    >>So basically Goh CT made the remark that Edwin was convinced he would & could handle the ministerial job for half a million bucks?<<

    Wasn't it wooden Goh allegedly bring the emperor without clothes into politics, just as S Danabalan, then Chairman of Temasek Holdings, "beg" wooden to appoint Ho Ching as first, a Director, then as CEO?

    Both are DISASTERS – in the case of the emperor without clothes the epic failures in his incompetent management of the COVID-19 pandemic and in the case of Ho Ching her humongous losses………..pity many sinkies still refuse to face up to the reality…………..except to take hook line and sinker PAPie propaganda from the 160th ranked ST and Mediacorp and be taken in by the wayang-party snake oil con.

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  • When the Ego cops out.....:

    “If a man be his own guard, let him guard himself against Rage. Left unguarded, his own wrath will annihilate him… All suffering recoils on the wrongdoer himself. Thus, for those desiring to suffer not, they refrain from causing others pain…. Gentle speech flows from love, it is free from deceit, and is like music in the mouth of the virtuous. Gentle speech, with a cheerful countenance, surpasses the gift of the wealthy….. Amassing great wealth is gradual, like the gathering of a theater crowd. But its dispersal is sudden, like that same crowd departing.”

    Thiruvalluvar the Sage

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  • illiterate pap voters:

    We hardly watch pap tv, since we have Netflix, and such.

    Once in a while, we do watch Channel 8 Chinese news. But due to so many stops in a short half an hour, we started to miss once a week, then, twice a week, and now we have not even watched it for months.

    We don’t subscribe to pap states times. Once in a while, when we are in a clinic and there is a copy, we would read it. Lately, we don’t even touch it when it is right under our noses.

    THEREFORE, stop watching or listening to anything pap. After a while, the ingrained habit of trying to hear or read what pap says shall go away.

    Days become peaceful. BP become stable. Blood stop boiling.

    After all, knowing whatever pap says is probably a lie, or a means toward fixing OPPO, we don’t give pap even a nanosecond.

    We only hear of the pap FIX OPPO cop here in TRE. All we can say is, since esteemed Ms Raeesah Khan has already resigned, why does pap waste time and S$m on cop if it is not another pap FIX OPPO move?

    We are not any ordinary OPPO. We are dead set to see the lying pap S$m ownself justify ownself thieves dethroned and put into jail.

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  • Harder Truths:

    I have a gut feeling this whole thing was staged. WP is no doubt Regime Team B. Too many things do not fit. The whole thing looks scripted. What better way to sabotage the opposition?

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  • most businesses' allegiance:

    //You got it all wrong …. Sugar Coated Poison Democracy ROC Taiwan beg ev1l China not to terminate the FTA….wahahahaha… thick skin liar//

    got BEG meh ??

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_Cooperation_Framework_Agreement

    you mean the businesses cry and ‘beg’ ?? most businesses’ allegiance is to $$$ and profit” NOT to the average people and exploited workers or EVEN to COUNTRY (if possible, they will move to whichever country / state giving max profit propositions lar) ???

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