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The Voluntary Nature of Covid-19 Vaccination and the Unreasonableness of Barring Workers from Workplace

From 15 January 2022, vaccination differentiation safe entry measures (“VDS”) will be further amended such that unvaccinated workers are not allowed to return to the workplace even with a negative pre-event test. Effectively, workers who are unable to work remotely exclusively (or to pivot to do so), will lose their livelihood.

This article argues that Covid vaccination is and must remain a voluntary decision, and that therefore, it is wholly unreasonable to bar workers from their workplaces. Indeed, one may even forcefully argue that it is unconstitutional to do so.

A. The Voluntary Nature of COVID Vaccination

Vaccination is a voluntary choice, as the policy makers affirmed right from the start. Where there is risk, there must be choice.

While risks are low, no one has guaranteed or is willing or able to guarantee that there are no risks. One cannot know the unknown (in particular, as it stands, long-term risks, given that insufficient time has elapsed).

In addition, with regards to serious adverse reactions or deaths occurring reasonably soon after vaccination, the absence of evidence (of a causal link today) is not evidence of absence. In this area of emerging science, we cannot rule out that scientific methods may improve over time to detect in the future what remains undetectable today. For the avoidance of doubt, the official position by the HSA is that thus far, no deaths have been attributed to the COVID-19 vaccines.

There is room for an individual to give weight to the above matters in one’s risk-benefit analysis (I will elaborate on this in a separate article titled “The Decision to Vaccinate: The Risk-Benefit Analysis Re-Analysed”). As such, vaccination must remain voluntary.

B. The 4 Common Grounds to Justify VDS Critically Examined

The freedom of movement is a fundamental liberty guaranteed by the Singapore Constitution (Article 13(2)). It can be legitimately restricted for public health reasons, but any such restriction through VDS must be reasonable. The move to prevent unvaccinated workers from returning to the workplace even with a negative PET is wholly unreasonable (and the following points below will apply with equal force to VDS against the unvaccinated generally).

First, to protect the unvaccinated. It is wholly unreasonable to forcefully protect someone (especially those at low risk of serious Covid or death) against their own will by removing their constitutional right to move around freely, and by extension, to remove or restrict their access to the goods, services, events, activities and opportunities found at such places. This contradicts the nature of voluntary choices. There are also serious mental health issues arising from VDS, especially for young people or children and the elderly – and soon, workers who will lose their livelihood.

It is a form of sanctimonious humbug to effectively say to such workers: “I care for you so much that I support the recent move which would result in you losing your right to work, and to leave you and/or your family with no income. I wish you a very happy new year ahead as you deal, alone and without any support, with the anxieties, fears and depression arising from being forcefully left jobless”.

Second, to protect others. But the vaccinated are already protected by being vaccinated. Insofar as vaccination protection wanes over time, the vaccinated may further protect themselves by getting boosters. One may then say, to protect the unvaccinated not by choice. However, there must be proportionality in how we protect this group, which appears to be a small number, not all are at high risk, and who may get Covid from vaccinated breakthrough cases in any event.

Third, it is right to protect the healthcare system from being overwhelmed. However, VDS must stop once the healthcare system is no longer under strain (and “strained” or “overwhelmed” must be defined in an objective, transparent and fair way). In any event, VDS should also be immediately recalibrated to exclude those who are at low risk of contributing to the hospital strain (e.g. the young and/or healthy).

Fourth, to compel or punish the unvaccinated. Voluntary choices cannot be compelled, or punished for failure to comply. Only criminal acts can be, because there is a clear line on what is right and wrong, as defined by the law. Using VDS to compel or punish puts the cart before the horse – it pre-emptively and somewhat surreptitiously categorizes the voluntary decision not to vaccinate as wrong, and thus deserving of compulsion or punishment. But this requires national and Parliamentary debate, as well as constitutional scrutiny – which we have yet to have on this critical issue.

C. Why Care, and What Next?

From Persuasion to Coercion, and a Deeper Search for a Vision of What it Means to be Truly Human

So, why should the majority vaccinated care about this issue? In reality, Covid vaccination and VDS bring out larger and long-term underlying issues with the future of Singapore.

A society that moves from persuasion to coercion to compel or punish what it affirms as a voluntary decision stands on shaky grounds. To uncritically accept this sets a worrying precedent for voluntary decisions in the future to be met with the indefinite restriction of fundamental liberties in order to compel a uniform choice. The majority today could end up being in the minority for future voluntary decisions.

In addition, underlying the debate on vaccines and VDS is a deeper question – what does it mean to be truly human? Man is a social being, in the communitarian, emotional, inter-personal and recreational senses. Man also needs purpose, and we find this in our jobs, in our studies, in physical and spiritual activities and pursuits, in our service of and providing for others, amongst others. VDS makes vaccination status a pre-requisite to participate in society and to gain access to what Man needs to remain truly human.

What Next?

I would gently encourage the vaccinated majority to begin conversing with the unvaccinated, to understand the nuances of the debate, to arrive at a more balanced view of such issues, and to boldly speak up for workers and against the unreasonable form of VDS we see today.

Employers should stand up and speak up for their unvaccinated workers too – as employers from other countries have done.

All these can be done contemporaneously with encouraging, without any duress or coercion, especially older and vulnerable employees to get vaccinated – for the right reasons, namely, for protective reasons, and not because they face losing their livelihood. Their decision, whether to vaccinate or not, must be respected, not only by words, but also with action.

 

Dominic Chan

 

Important Note: I am a pro-vaccination, fully vaccinated, concerned citizen of Singapore. Everyone, especially those who are older and vulnerable, should seriously consider the option of getting vaccinated to protect themselves from serious Covid or death. Nothing in this article shall be construed as encouraging anyone to remain unvaccinated or to downplay the seriousness of Covid for those who are more vulnerable to it. Nevertheless, it is of utmost importance that any decision to vaccinate must be made voluntarily, free from any duress or coercion.

 

* Article first appeared on Move The Needle.

 

 

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70 Responses to “The Voluntary Nature of Covid-19 Vaccination and the Unreasonableness of Barring Workers from Workplace”

  • Calvin, the old turtle:

    Dominic, isn’t it paradoxical for you to fight for the unvaxx while by the same token encourages a certain demographics in society to go for jabs (who may have the same reasons as those you’re fighting for). So to vaccinate or not?

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  • Cannot Convince, Confuse:

    Well, well.

    Cannot Convince, Confuse…
    Else, Coerce!

    It’s as simple as that.
    And the sheeples will be led
    by the nose; their eyelids can’t bat.

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  • 曹智柏:

    为什么最近的文章都那么长?

    还是陈金莲比较好,她的文章简洁干练,通俗易懂,主题鲜明,脉络清晰。读她的文章是一种享受。她的文章一出,讨论多,论坛变得生机勃勃!

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  • oxygen:

    @ Calvin, old turtle

    DOMINIC’S WRITING in this thread is COMPELLING.

    Calvin, the old turtle: Dominic, isn’t it paradoxical for you to fight for the unvaxx while by the same token encourages a certain demographics in society to go for jabs (who may have the same reasons as those you’re fighting for). So to vaccinate or not?

    Contrary to your unfounded assertion, he DID NOT SPECIFICALLY “encourages a certain (unspecified by you) demographic in society to go for jabs” which, by definition of his argued position is left to individual free choice.

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  • Observer:

    The HEALTHY unvaxxed are not allowed back to their workplace so as to protect them from Covid (brought about by the vaxxed).

    The UNHEALTHY (people with health issues) that cannot be vaxxed due to medical issues are allowed back to their workplace. If the above statement is true, then the UNHEALTHY are allowed back to their workplace to get infected, and end up with serious illness or death. Is this called protecting the vulnerable?

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  • Hi!:

    LAST & FINAL WARNING TO THE PEOPLE & GOVERNMENT & OPPOSITION MPs OF THE REPUBLIC OF SINGAPORE: CNA news commentary: “there are dark clouds hanging over 2022″; Russia preparing to invade Ukraine & has amassed 175,000 troops on the border w Ukraine. Nato forces also encroaching eastwards.

    Second, Sino-American tensions over Taiwan. American politican urge the US to “do all it can to prevent China invading Taiwan & in turn, Chinese foreign minister Wang Yi warned “US will pay unbearable price” if it supports Taiwan independence.

    Third, Iran is now a THRESHHOLD nuclear state. It has OPENLY called for the annihilation of Israel. As a result, Israel is openly considering strikes against Iranian nuclear fascilities.

    IF THEY STILL ALLOWED IMPORTED COVID CASES INTO OUR NATION & IN SO DOING ALLOWED ANOTHER WAVE OF SURGE IN INFECTIONS, & AT THE SAME TIME IF ANY WAR WERE TO BREAK OUT & LEADING TO A POSSIBLE DISASTROUS WW3, IT WOULD BE DEVASTATING FOR THE PEOPLE OF SINGAPORE IF THE COVID VIRUS HAD NOT BEEN CURBED AS WAR BROKE OUT!.

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  • Absurdity:

    The writer is correct. The leaders not only crossed the line of having vaccination voluntary. Notice that NONE of those leaders from that same camp voiced any concerns. So much for having many humanities scholars in their midst. All faking with their false exteriors by turning their heads the other way, supported by legions of dumb and selfish voters.

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  • untainted control group:

    //isn’t it paradoxical for you to fight for the unvaxx while by the same token encourages a certain demographics in society to go for jabs (who may have the same reasons as those you’re fighting for). So to vaccinate or not?//

    got parodoxical meh ?

    if you think jab is good for you, go for it lar and get protected as much as possible ??

    but why force (effectively forcing given all the increasing differentiated measures ???) it on the unvaxxed ?? the unvaxxed is assuming their own risks with their eyes open ?? for any matter, is it possible that the unvaxxed may be the only untainted control group (untainted by vaccine ??) who may have developed natural immunity against such CONVIT99 to prove that it can be done ?

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  • No wonder:

    Those in power cam talk nonsense to please their bosses. People are expendable.

    Observer:
    The HEALTHY unvaxxed are not allowed back to their workplace so as to protect them from Covid (brought about by the vaxxed).

    The UNHEALTHY (people with health issues) that cannot be vaxxed due to medical issues are allowed back to their workplace. If the above statement is true, then the UNHEALTHY are allowed back to their workplace to get infected, and end up with serious illness or death. Is this called protecting the vulnerable?

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  • MarBowling:

    One sentence to sum up the Coverment under Mai Hum and by extension his Wifey Holee Jinx:

    They are the ANGELS as well as the(Holee)GHOSTS!

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  • John Doe:

    PAP got Common Good one meh?

    Human rights from Human choices.
    Human choices are FROM personal choices.
    Personal choices ARE FREE FROM PAP LAWS, PAP COERCIONS OR PAP ENCUMBRANCES.
    Personal CHOICES are FROM personal morals DECISIONS.
    Personal MORAL DECISIONS do get INTERFERED from common good.
    There s NO SUCH thing as COMMON GOOD – in SG context COMMON GOOD means a FORCED people’s GOOD FOR PAP’s GREED and GOOD.
    PAP’s GOOD is GOOD for their Million Dollars SALARIES AND AND AND for PAP’s PRICELESS POWER to dictate SG and hegemonic AIMS over SGpns.

    If the PAP has had admitted mistakes and held responsibility for the deaths of students of Tg Katong mountain climbing teams, of Benjamin Leong, of the DEATHS OF 6 INNOCENT Hep C patients, THEN THERE IS AN ABSOLUTE common GOOD of SG for the PAP To SHOUT and blow their trumpet.

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  • John Doe:

    PAP got Common Good one meh?

    Human rights from Human choices.
    Human choices are FROM personal choices.
    Personal choices ARE FREE FROM PAP LAWS, PAP COERCIONS OR PAP ENCUMBRANCES.
    Personal CHOICES are FROM personal morals DECISIONS.
    Personal MORAL DECISIONS DO NOT GET interferences from common good, esp PAP’s common good.

    There s NO SUCH thing as COMMON GOOD – in SG context COMMON GOOD means a FORCED people’s GOOD FOR PAP’s GREED and GOOD.
    PAP’s GOOD is GOOD for their Million Dollars SALARIES AND AND AND for PAP’s PRICELESS POWER to dictate SG and hegemonic AIMS over SGpns.

    If the PAP has had admitted mistakes and held responsibility for the deaths of students of Tg Katong mountain climbing teams, of Benjamin Leong, of the DEATHS OF 6 INNOCENT Hep C patients, THEN THERE IS AN ABSOLUTE common GOOD of SG for the PAP To SHOUT and blow their trumpet.

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  • PAP d Classic Predator:

    Absurdity:
    The writer is correct. The leaders not only crossed the line of having vaccination voluntary. Notice that NONE of those leaders from that same camp voiced any concerns. So much for having many humanities scholars in their midst. All faking with their false exteriors by turning their heads the other way, supported by legions of dumb and selfish voters.

    GeneraLee speaking I would term it and consider SG and SGpns is a corrupted society – corruption definition need not be strictly monetary, but a whole scope of corruption, can be in people’s minds,people’s thinking, daily living actions, business actions and cultures. Of course many other societues are not perfect – BUT NONETHELESS in SG itself, the PAP leaders ARE AN OBSCENE IMMORAL BUNCH in context of leadership, salaries and personal morals.

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  • Taleban:

    If the mRNA vaccine goes haywire, the the unvax will have the duty to populate Singapore.
    Ever see the Hollywood movies on Zombies?

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  • theforgottongeneration:

    All these pro-vax or anti-vax sentiments are because of one thing: POOR LEADERSHIP, LEADING TO BAD CRISIS MANAGEMENT. Singaporeans have become so polarized under the Loong administration that there will definitely be various self-interest groups screaming this and that. Sure, there must be free choice in society, but with free choice there must also be ACCOUNTABILITY and REASONABLE clauses. Like wearing of masks – some say their Free Choice not to wear; some because they are Sovereign (whatever that shit means); even stupid ministers say need not wear if not sick,.. etc. All these are indications that the top have LOST grip of the situation and unable to pull the people in any one direction AS A NATION. Even the supposedly designated next-PM decided to tell Boss: “Thanks but no Thanks”.

    So what does our bo-liao million$ ministers/PM do in such a situation? They blanket-mandate this and that, while blanket (i.e. withhold) information from the public. Boss say already, let the people fight among themselves, not Boss’ problem, hor. Like mandating self-clearing of plates at hawker centers – the minister in charge has been in politics for 20+ years, still cannot change the people’s mindset. So lazy and quick way is to mandate lor, people lan-lan so what; as long as she can tell Boss: “The issue has been taken care of.” But hey, why not, since they seems to have unlimited access to our hard-earned reserves via the Kelong president (which they installed, hor).

    PS: my gentle suggestion to the author is not to lump-sum the unvax as if everyone has medical/age issues which make vaccinations difficult. IMO, there are some out there who think they are Sovereign-like and thus feel they are ENTITLED to be treated differently, without regard to the welfare of the rest of society. Free choice or Selfish?

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  • Realistically:

    @ Dominic Chan

    >>Everyone, especially those who are older and vulnerable, should seriously consider the option of getting vaccinated to protect themselves from serious Covid or death.<<

    Although I agree with the gist of your narrative, the part quoted unfortunately, IMHO, falls into the at best half-baked and less than optimal solution because the effect of the SARS-CoV-2 virus on the non-vaccinated might be true, what is more important is to stay safe in the first place…….rather than be infected. How? Common sense: double masking with surgical grade/N95 masks; social distancing – the further one stays away from another person who is not from the same family, the less chance of being infected; good ventilation; good personal hygiene like frequent handwashing…..

    Much of the epic failures of the emperor without clothes in his management (or significant mismanagement) of the COVID-19 pandemic can be attributed to his ABJECT incompetence, which of course is mitigated to a great extent by the wayang-party MPs helping to legitimise his abuse of power and the said failures……………….at the expense of sinkies who face hardships, miseries, sufferings, loss of income WHILE the wayang-party MPs can continue to luxuriate on their ill-gotten but legal, $16k monthly MP allowance………….no wonder the wayang-party MPs, MPs-wanna-be, IB and supporters can scream HUAT AH…………regardless of the severe damage to the economy.

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  • John Doe:

    theforgottongeneration:
    All these pro-vax or anti-vax sentiments are because of one thing: POOR LEADERSHIP, LEADING TO BAD CRISIS MANAGEMENT. Singaporeans have become so polarized under the Loong administration that there will definitely be various self-interest groups screaming this and that. Sure, there must be free choice in society, but with free choice there must also be ACCOUNTABILITY and REASONABLE clauses. Like wearing of masks – some say their Free Choice not to wear; some because they are Sovereign (whatever that shit means); even stupid ministers say need not wear if not sick,.. etc. All these are indications that the top have LOST grip of the situation and unable to pull the people in any one direction AS A NATION. Even the supposedly designated next-PM decided to tell Boss: “Thanks but no Thanks”.

    So what does our bo-liao million$ ministers/PM do in such a situation? They blanket-mandate this and that, while blanket (i.e. withhold) information from the public. Boss say already, let the people fight among themselves, not Boss’ problem, hor. Like mandating self-clearing of plates at hawker centers – the minister in charge has been in politics for 20+ years, still cannot change the people’s mindset. So lazy and quick way is to mandate lor, people lan-lan so what; as long as she can tell Boss: “The issue has been taken care of.” But hey, why not, since they seems to have unlimited access to our hard-earned reserves via the Kelong president (which they installed, hor).

    PS: my gentle suggestion to the author is not to lump-sum the unvax as if everyone has medical/age issues which make vaccinations difficult. IMO, there are some out there who think they are Sovereign-like and thus feel they are ENTITLED to be treated differently, without regard to the welfare of the rest of society. Free choice or Selfish?

    Generally, have to agree with you.

    My MAIN QUESTION to the FRAUDULENT MTF – where the BIG F’s is the DORSCON OR DORS-cunt?
    Those MILLIONAIRE bastards created a big HOO HA DORS-con was TO F SGpns and to show the world of their methodical, systematic covid management. This is their sole intention to PLAY SGpns psychic.

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  • xoxo:

    This time around,the MAFIA-DRUG LORD says you better take the drugs or we *corner* you till you have no way out.

    Ah Long kor n his gangsters are very determined.
    Voluntary?
    Maybe next GE.
    YOU can kick them out,its just ONE VOTE away.

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  • Harder Truths:

    This has never been about vaccination. It has always been the increase of power through fear, so much so that the Regime can deny you anything- even your health or work – to justify their insane policies.

    Much like Nazi Germany before WWII. $G is a tiny island with FT waiting to run in and take over. And all the Regime can do is kill off the locals slowly (if you take the vaxx) or faster (if you starve). There is an economic crash coming to the US dollar, possibly next year in which case $G will go kaput as well.

    So what will the vaxxed, dying and starving population do? Become cannibals? Zombies? We will know soon enough. The people of this small island have too big heads with very small brains. They have to learn the hard way that they keep making the wrong choices.

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  • theforgottongeneration:

    My mistake to speak out that the garmen seemingly is using our reserves like it is their grandfather’s money. This evening news, Loong hit back by saying GST will be increased to 9% wef 2022. So easy to be the highest paid PM, hor?

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    theforgottongeneration:
    All these pro-vax or anti-vax sentiments are because of one thing:
    ..
    ..
    PS: my gentle suggestion to the author is not to lump-sum the unvax as if everyone has medical/age issues which make vaccinations difficult. IMO, there are some out there who think they are Sovereign-like and thus feel they are ENTITLED to be treated differently, without regard to the welfare of the rest of society. Free choice or Selfish?

    Great suggestion. There are so many Opposition with different hidden ev1l agenda such poke backside same sex marriage etc …they demanded to be treated differently, without regard to the welfare of the rest of society.

    Better heed GCT advice and ask what can Opposition do for me ? Will you tell lies like WP RK to gets elected ? Will you let the people suffer while you enjoy fishing like Brazil President Bolsonaro ?

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    Singaporeans must be Cheaperer, Betterer, Fasterer
    Workers must accept wage sacrifices to keep businesses going.

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  • Increase Helping The Elderly?:

    I am over 71 years old and unable to get employment. When I was working, I used to pay over S$9,000 per year. I stayed in a 5 room HDB flat and not entitled to receive any of the government free gift for the poor.

    My two tertiary educated children are finding it difficult to get jobs due to the large numbers of FTs in Singapore. The only help I get from the PAP while unemployed is the S$600 which everybody gets.

    Now the price of everything is increasing. Water, Electricity, GST, Property tax, Transport fares, Food etc..

    Recently I went for CT Scan which cost S$700 plus but was charged S$250 and Ultrasound which cost S$600 but was charged at S$140. Why are our Health cost so high in Singapore ?

    I borrowed money from friends to pay. LHL mentioned that all these increases are to help the elderly. Where got ?

    The PAP Ministers and Elites are getting millions of Dollars salaries without a single dollar of reduction.

    Mr Khaw Boon Wan an ex Minister recently went for a bypass heart operation and he mentioned that he was charged S$8 only. Million Dollars salary paid S$8 for and operation and unemployed elderly forced to pay hundreds of dollars for health procedure.

    Do you want us the unemployed elderly to jump down from our flats ?

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  • Tremendous:

    Only know how to stretch out the hands and ask for money. Tons of excuses when they blunder.

    theforgottongeneration:
    My mistake to speak out that the garmen seemingly is using our reserves like it is their grandfather’s money. This evening news, Loong hit back by saying GST will be increased to 9% wef 2022. So easy to be the highest paid PM, hor?

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  • Tremendous:

    Next time you go for medical treatment, be sure to consult that chief with heart bypass on how to get subsidies. In the same vein, everyone should do the same.

    Increase Helping The Elderly?:
    I am over 71 years old and unable to get employment. When I was working, I used to pay over S$9,000 per year. I stayed in a 5 room HDB flat and not entitled to receive any of the government free gift for the poor.

    My two tertiary educated children are finding it difficult to get jobs due to the large numbers of FTs in Singapore. The only help I get from the PAP while unemployed is the S$600 which everybody gets.

    Now the price of everything is increasing. Water, Electricity, GST, Property tax, Transport fares, Food etc..

    Recently I went for CT Scan which cost S$700 plus but was charged S$250 and Ultrasound which cost S$600 but was charged at S$140. Why are our Health cost so high in Singapore ?

    I borrowed money from friends to pay. LHL mentioned that all these increases are to help the elderly. Where got ?

    The PAP Ministers and Elites are getting millions of Dollars salaries without a single dollar of reduction.

    Mr Khaw Boon Wan an ex Minister recently went for a bypass heart operation and he mentioned that he was charged S$8 only. Million Dollars salary paid S$8 for and operation and unemployed elderly forced to pay hundreds of dollars for health procedure.

    Do you want us the unemployed elderly to jump down from our flats ?

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  • Sad:

    Better to respect individual responsibility and decision.
    Cannot play God as we are not God.
    Can make wrong decision also.
    Don’t force people.let them decide their own future and make own health decision.
    Just give them facts and let people make their own informed decision.
    They bear the consequence of their action.

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  • Sad situation:

    Refer to
    “Recently I went for CT Scan which cost S$700 plus but was charged S$250 and Ultrasound which cost S$600 but was charged at S$140. Why are our Health cost so high in Singapore ?

    I borrowed money from friends to pay. LHL mentioned that all these increases are to help the elderly. Where got ?”

    Need to make it affordable for people like them.
    Sad but many elders and the poor are in this situation.
    Need to do more for them.

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  • China, China:

    ”Last month, China’s Ministry of Science and Technology approved trials for a domestically developed mRNA vaccine as a booster shot — for adults who have been fully inoculated with inactivated vaccines. It has already conducted clinical trials in countries including Mexico and Indonesia, though the results have yet to be announced.
    The vaccine, ARCoVax, was jointly developed by Walvax Biotechnology, Suzhou Abogen Biosciences and the Academy of Military Medical Sciences — a Chinese military research institute. Its production base in southwestern Yunnan province has the capacity to produce 200 million doses annually, according to state media reports, which touted China’s success in having “grasped core mRNA vaccine technology.”
    Several other Chinese companies, including state-owned giant Sinopharm, are also developing mRNA vaccines, Huang said. Beijing will likely want to approve homegrown mRNA vaccines before greenlighting any foreign ones, he added.”
    Looks like Tech and TKL motherland falling madly in love with mRNA.
    The TRUTH always prevail.
    Comment please!

    Taleban:
    If the mRNA vaccine goes haywire, the the unvax will have the duty to populate Singapore.
    Ever see the Hollywood movies on Zombies?

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  • theforgottongeneration:

    John Doe: Generally, have to agree with you.

    My MAIN QUESTION to the FRAUDULENT MTF – where the BIG F’s is the DORSCON OR DORS-cunt?
    Those MILLIONAIRE bastards created a big HOO HA DORS-con was TO F SGpns and to show the world of their methodical, systematic covid management. This is their sole intention to PLAY SGpns psychic.

    Look, when the Golden Prince, which all hopes were placed upon (sweetened with 20+ years of OJT, million$ pay, SM and MM to hold his hands for many years, etc), flops or FAILED to deliver, of course they must resort to Wayang, Kelong, Propaganda, PORMA, No Blaming Culture, half-truths, downright lies, fixing/blaming oppies, etc.

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  • theforgottongeneration:

    Singaporeans R Free Riders: Great suggestion. There are so many Opposition with different hidden ev1l agenda such poke backside same sex marriage etc …they demanded to be treated differently, without regard to the welfare of the rest of society.

    Hey you fuxking pappie-doggie hypocrite. Who are the people’s role models nowadays?

    Yup, those boasting of $8 heart-pass; those shielding themselves with PORMA; those paying themselves million$ but delivering fuxk; those sore losers in elections calling voters Free Riders; those failures hidden under No Blaming Culture, etc.

    And the recent RK lying case – the BIG liars calling out the small liars. Big pot calling small kettle black, hor?

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  • Observer:

    @China China
    It is more like “You have nuke, I also have nuke”. Does it make the world safer? :)

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    Increase Helping The Elderly?:
    I am over 71 years old and unable to get employment. When I was working, I used to pay over S$9,000 per year. I stayed in a 5 room HDB flat and not entitled to receive any of the government free gift for the poor.

    My two tertiary educated children are finding it difficult to get jobs due to the large numbers of FTs in Singapore. The only help I get from the PAP while unemployed is the S$600 which everybody gets.
    ..
    ..

    Hello over 71 years old, you had a 5 room HDB when you are younger and you already had enjoyed many of our PAP economic gains…what more do you want ?

    And while enjoying your good lives, did you retrenched/replaced young Singaporeans so that you could continue to enjoy your good lives ?

    Did you do any good or help Singaporeans that you retrenched/replaced ?

    Your tertiary educated children could not get job is your karma for selfishly retrenching/replacing young Singaporeans and offering no help to them.

    I urge all Singaporean to question old people like the writer above.

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    theforgottongeneration: Hey you fuxking pappie-doggie hypocrite. Who are the people’s role models nowadays?

    Yup, those boasting of $8 heart-pass; those shielding themselves with PORMA; those paying themselves million$ but delivering fuxk; those sore losers in elections calling voters Free Riders; those failures hidden under No Blaming Culture, etc.

    And the recent RK lying case – the BIG liars calling out the small liars. Big pot calling small kettle black, hor?

    PAP are the people’s best role model for honesty.

    PAP are honest. PAP don’t pretend. PAP are honest for wanting to be paid market rate and will not corrupt when serving the people.

    On the other hand, we had Pastor Kong and Venerable Ming Yi who are actually dish0nest but pretend to serve the poor with humility.

    Just like Brazil’s government who pretend to serve the people with humility but actually let their people suffer in ponding…

    Bolsonaro criticized for being on holiday amid Bahia rainfall crisis
    https://en.mercopress.com/2021/12/29/bolsonaro-criticized-for-being-on-holiday-amid-bahia-rainfall-crisis

    巴西水壩潰堤淹百城 總統被拍到悠哉度假|TVBS新聞
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4WGkaR32sw

    Singaporeans should be grateful to PAP for the world’s most honest government.

    PAP supporters please print/distribute/share my post.
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  • PAP mandate strong:

    Best democracy HK same thing. Compulsory at least one shot else cannot makan outside plus entry to shopping centers and other premises. Other words also cannot work if not vaccinated

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/udn.com/news/amp/story/7332/6001510

    “港府會在農曆新年前逐步擴大「疫苗氣泡」的安排,餐廳、戲院、健身中心、美容院、圖書館、公眾娛樂場所等,將會要求進入的市民至少打一針,而有關的員工也要在指定限期前完成疫苗接種”

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  • You Are Wrong:

    @Singaporeans R Free Riders

    What The Fark ? Why do you any how attack and criticize me a 71 years old Singaporean without any actual facts ?

    Yes I did enjoy some benefits under LKY and Goh rule. So did everybody at that time. I was not in a position to retrench or replace any younger or older Singaporeans staff as all our staff in the company were Singaporeans.

    When LHL took over I was retrenched and replaced by an Indian FT. They came by the hundreds of thousand. So please don’t any how fiack or curse me OK. KNNBCCB

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  • Too many coxk talkers!:

    Human rights?

    Individuals should be allowed to do what they desired and should not be coerced to do things that they do not want to do?

    This is nonsensical!

    First and foremost, if individuals have the right to choose to be born into the world?

    So many coxk talkers @, it is no wonder that the world is chaotic and not peaceful!

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  • xoxo:

    @ You Are Wrong

    Right,plot A chart with National Productivity on Y-axis and RATE OF INCREASE in FTs onX-axis over last 2 decadent decades,you will have a clear view.

    Shameless alien$ nmore shameless scholar-gahmen!
    But expect daft gahmen to DUMP MORE FAKE TALENTS here,post-Covid; never mind more n younger sgs lose their jobs.
    LHL has openEE promise to look after the PROFESSIONAL FOOD pandas n Grabbers.
    Why go to varsity n waste time n money?
    Go learn how to ride a bike PROFESSIONALLY .

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  • Need openness n transparency:

    Straits Times: ‘If leaders don’t care, nothing gets done’: Shell S’pore chairman on change and building other leaders

    Not quite true.

    Often something does get done but it may not be the right thing to do.

    The fact is leaders do not have to care if they are not held accountable. They cannot be held accountable if there is lack of openness and transparency.

    Openness and transparency are required for accountability. Let that sink in.

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  • oxygen:

    @ Too many coxk talkers!:

    WITH BIRTH NOT OF CHOICE of your confession, was that a “MISTAKE” or an “ACCIDENT” in your own case.

    Too many coxk talkers!: Human rights?

    Individuals should be allowed to do what they desired and should not be coerced to do things that they do not want to do?

    This is nonsensical!

    First and foremost, if individuals have the right to choose to be born into the world?

    So many coxk talkers @, it is no wonder that the world is chaotic and not peaceful!

    WHATEVER the “regretful” causation or accidental consequences of your coming to this world, how come everyone else comes with a brain together?

    If you don’t come with one accompanying your arrival in this world to care about human rights and its defence, and preservation, DO YOU ACTUALLY KNOW NOW WHERE IS YOUR ELBOW AND WHERE IS YOUR AN*S?

    and yes, I agree with you on your last shot at reality.

    Too many coxk talkers!: it is no wonder that the world is chaotic and not peaceful!

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    If you DO mind against others (unrelated to you) of agitation protest against wrongful injustices – actual or perceived- ASK YOURSELF THIS SIMPLE QUESTION, at least privately – do you have the option of crawling back to where you come from?

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  • oxygen:

    @ Need openness n transparency:

    THIS IS WHAT I CALL “smart thinking”. Simplification and superficiality of decision choice in conditions of complexities is DANGEROUS.

    BIG MISTAKES are tempted of devilish ENDURING outcome damage when decision-makers turned rogue of authoritarianism the moment they know they are failing and won’t tolerate challenges for change.

    ENTRENCHED FAILING AND ITS CONTINUATION until the nation/organisation collapse in chaos.

    No nation EAST OF THE BERLIN WALL post the fall of that wall, recover and prosper even AFTER ONE UNTAINTED GENERATION.

    Human civilisation is born with GENETIC PROGRAMMING to achieving and progress attainment via overcoming all challenges and resistance.

    AUTHORITARIAN OPPRESSION DRIVES IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION.

    Need openness n transparency: Straits Times: ‘If leaders don’t care, nothing gets done’: Shell S’pore chairman on change and building other leaders

    Not quite true.

    Often something does get done but it may not be the right thing to do.

    The fact is leaders do not have to care if they are not held accountable. They cannot be held accountable if there is lack of openness and transparency.

    Openness and transparency are required for accountability. Let that sink in.

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    Too many coxk talkers!:
    Human rights?

    Individuals should be allowed to do what they desired and should not be coerced to do things that they do not want to do?

    This is nonsensical!

    First and foremost, if individuals have the right to choose to be born into the world?

    So many coxk talkers @, it is no wonder that the world is chaotic and not peaceful!

    Exactly … many c0ck talkers here ..

    To be exact, there are many Americunt c0ck suckers here just like the many Chinacunt suckers Tan Kin Lian.

    Please answer, all the Ang Mo Tua Kee c0ck suckers human rights champion
    1. Is it a human right to see your colleague being retrenched and laugh say heng ah, it is not me.. haha, it is him.

    2. Is it a human right to dump your old aged parents to old folks home?

    3. Is it a human right to attack Iraq and killed innocent Iraqis using a fake excuse that Iraq has mass weapon of destruction?

    4. Is it a human right to pretend pretend to serve with humanity (low or zero pay) but behind the back is corrupted to the core like Pastor Kong and Venerable Ming Yi ?

    I urge all Singaporean to question and question Opposition reasoning.

    PAP supporters please print/distribute/share my post.
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  • theforgottongeneration:

    Too many coxk talkers!:
    Human rights?

    Individuals should be allowed to do what they desired and should not be coerced to do things that they do not want to do?

    This is nonsensical!

    First and foremost, if individuals have the right to choose to be born into the world?

    So many coxk talkers @, it is no wonder that the world is chaotic and not peaceful!

    As usual, the pappie-doggies & coxk-suckers slap themselves. So their comments and postings here are NOT because of individual choice but instructed to do so by their lanjiao masters, hor?

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    TO ALL READERS

    Didn’t I warn you about me earlier ??

    And I told you all so.

    Yet, All you Oppies are still such stupid idiots replying my post.. tsk! tsk! tsk!

    No wonder you could never achieve to have an alternative garmen.
    Social medias, internet and technology giants are your  last frontiers of hope that have already given rise to arab spring in the middle east but not here.

    WHY ?
    Because we are an effective resistant internet brigade.
    So sorry that social media and internet are now your long lost hope.
    You can only pray for divine intervention.
    ————————————————————————-
    Below is part of the script on what I had written earlier :-

    I ….. and my great grandmaster of the infamous PAP – Pandemic Arsehole Party.

    I did nothing else……

    My objective coming here in TRE platform is never about debating but to inflict anger in you with my frivolous silly remarks.

    I will echo, agitate, frustrate and rile up TRE readers with those faeces and shit out more this activity in any article.

    Especially with articles referencing to ROC President Dr Tsai Ing Wen, CCP President Xi JinPing and Democratic Ang Moh Tua Kee Americunts.
    Yes it pained my a$$e when these are surfaced !!

    So DEAR READERS, if you are clever enough, you should just TOTALLY IGNORE ALL of my copy and paste faeceal posts.

    This includes thumbing me down.

    My frank open advice to our Dear TRE Techie and others is to ignore and to not engage me.

    Facts, Truths and Experiences are untenable to me,
    but can be excellent canon fodders I will use to sustain and irk you more.

    So DON’T waste your talent, precious time and energy on me.

    This is THE ONE BIGGEST FOOLISH MISTAKE you can ever make.

    Each time you responded to my post, I know that you have read and stunk by my faeces. The more responses I get, the happier I’ll be because it tells me my readership has increased, that you are infuriated and riled due to its offensive stink.

    The trick is to stay away and just leave the hell of me alone in wilderness on TRE, then you be alright !

    The more you rebut, the more I stir shit bubbles on you.

    Remember, PAP blowjobbers like me couldn’t be more insulted, humiliated and failed if I cannot get a response from any of you.

    DO YOU UNDERSTAND BRO ??

    This is a minds game played on psychology.

    YOU OPPIE READERS ARE STUPID FOOLS IF YOU EVER RESPOND TO ANY OF MY POSTS.

    BECAUSE, NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY….YOU MAKE MY DAY AND YOU LOSE !

    So…  MAKE MY DAY, PUNK!! ( Clint Eastwood in Dirty Harry )

    You know, TRE Techie of course is very stupid as I see he couldn’t resist his temptation to rebut me.
    So do many other Oppies as well!

    IN DOING SO, YOU TAKE ALL MY BAIT, HOOK, LINE AND SINKER TO SERVE MY PAPIGS’ PROPAGANDA.

    THINK…

    PAP SUCKERS please print/distribute/share my post.
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    Money Talk$     Bullshit Walk$      Blowjob Stalk$

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    You Are Wrong:
    @Singaporeans R Free Riders

    What The Fark ? Why do you any how attack and criticize me a 71 years old Singaporean without any actual facts ?

    You Oppositions are behaving just like the Hong Kong black shirt rioters.
    Only you (they) can talk and views opposing you (them) cannot talk otherwise it will be deemed as attack on you (them) ?

    If you cannot take opposite comments, than do not comments. Zip your mouth.

    You Are Wrong:
    Yes I did enjoy some benefits under LKY and Goh rule. So did everybody at that time. I was not in a position to retrench or replace any younger or older Singaporeans staff as all our staff in the company were Singaporeans.

    That’s it. You enjoy it, you had your good time. You go enjoying with your children… did you help those who are less fortunate not out of their free will (hardworking but still cannot make it) ?

    You Are Wrong:
    When LHL took over I was retrenched and replaced by an Indian FT. They came by the hundreds of thousand. So please don’t any how fiack or curse me OK. KNNBCCB

    My PAP is correct. Opposition are racist as they target CECA Indians only….

    They do not target the Chinese which many are also here with fake degrees…
    RCEP登場!亞洲經濟發光!世界最大經濟圈2022
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jGH80HzCwI

    I challenge Opposition to go target the Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Australians….What? Balls drop ? What ? You are happy hiding behind moniker ? Hahaha…

    2nd challenge to Opposition: Get custom to Insert this in the entry white card:
    Drug trafficking carries the death sentence and fake academics qualification carries the deportation sentence.

    What ? Again ball drop ? What ? you just want to hide behind moniker ?hahahaha ….

    I urge all Singaporean to question and question Opposition reasoning.

    PAP supporters please print/distribute/share my post.
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    GE2024.PAP.Guarantee.Win.Again
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  • Trilogy of hell:

    We have to live with the majority choice for pappy govt at GE2020!

    The govt is given the mandate to set policies right or wrong to deal with the Covid crisis like it or not to get SG to “live with the virus” via vaccination way!

    To help achieve the vaccination rate of above 80% the govt has to do it by discriminating vs the unvax including barring unvax workers from work place even with negative PET!

    We hope that by invoking the rule of law the discriminating measures by the “trilogy of hell” vs the unvax will be overturned!

    COME GE2025, WE HAVE THE GIVEN OPPORTUNITY TO REMOVE THE PAPPY GOVT. IF THE UNVAX 20% ARE SWING VOTERS THEN TO REMOVE PAPPY GOVT IS POSSIBLE! CHOOSE WISELY!

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  • oxygen:

    WHAT IS THE BENEFITS (to anyone) – optical or imagination or simply hypocritical cosmetic – of enforcing booster jabs to return to the workplace when the WHOLE WORLD already known slightly over a month ago of this happening?

    Singapore’s Long-Awaited Reopen Was Flopping Even Before Omicron

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-11-29/singapore-s-long-awaited-opening-is-flopping-even-before-omicron

    Foreigners either DON’T COME into this “dangerous” destination for vacation or those few who comes in bringing in imported Omicron infections and share it generously around the workplace and public transport.

    IN LESS THAN A FEW MONTHS, ALL SO-CALLED resident “fully vaccinated” will morph into “unvaccinated” categorisation (decided by bureaucratic-determined rules/regulations, not by science-guidance of beneficial impact of what is proven failed vaccine thus requiring more of these known useless boosters).

    They either vaccinated with PROVEN USELESS booster shots with little or no benefits but wrestling with unidentifiable quantum risks unapparent now to their damaged health OR they leave their job/livelihood means.

    HOW CLEVER IS DECISION-MAKERS of this coerced failing of unmitigated disaster of own making?

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  • Vax Wars:

    ”Dr. Catherine O’Neal, the chief medical officer at Our Lady of the Lake Regional Medical Center in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, said their facility has seen hospital admissions and emergency department visits triple in the past week.
    “What we’re seeing is that… our vaccinated patients aren’t getting sick and our frail, multiple co-morbidities vaccinated patients do need admission, but their admissions are shorter and they’re able to leave the hospital after several days,” O’Neal said. “Our unvaccinated patients are the sickest patients, they’re the patients most likely to be on the ventilator.”
    The hospital is stretched so thin by the surging numbers, they’re concerned they may not be able to “take care of patients the way we want to take care of them by tomorrow,” O’Neal added.
    “We’re running out of tests, we’re running out of room, we’re inundated in the ER,” she added.
    https://edition.cnn.com/2022/01/02/health/us-coronavirus-sunday/index.html
    Go vax lah. Simply, your odds are better.
    Far better.
    Almost 97% are vaxed in sinkiestan, Orchard road is NOT filled with dead bodies.
    Do not be iron teeth—the overwhelming evidence WORLDWIDE is clear.
    This has nothing to do with papigs; do not let your hatred of papigs blind you to the worldwide data.

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    As illustrated in the expose instagram video of people enjoying countdown party at Clarke Quay, life goes on as usual.

    Yes, these people not displaying social responsibilities. On the other hand , not stricken by unnecessary fear or anxiety or doom and gloom.

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  • bias sampling:

    @Vax Wars

    So this is happening worldwide in every hospitals everyday? Search engine hunting will retrieve stories from both spectrums, so how? We cherry pick together until cows come home?

    I like to know if you have have consider all the relevant things that has occurred since the start of the COVID debacle (not just the science and “science” stuff but also things like the political and corporate actions by the major players WORLDWIDE).

    If you had, you will realise that science wasn’t really science and got hijacked. A lot of things just don’t add up to confidently to signal trust, and instead breed more severe doubts. Too much contradictions, lies and questionable actions from the vaccine peddlers and marketers, authoritative bodies that just screams distrust (the latest being outright totalitarianism despite rational and reasonable doubts that are left unanswered, so much for science despite peddling science).

    If you hadn’t, then you don’t really have any standing in asking someone to jab so casually eh?

    I just leave you with this weird observation I can’t seem to scratch off: We all wanna just get over COVID right? Why then, aren’t doctors allowed to treat the patients as they best can (meaning trying out other methods)? Why are the governing bodies chaining them to just using the experimental vaccines and those few standard protocols? Why kill off other competing therapeutics and not subject them to try outs as well?

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  • oxygen:

    @ Vax Wars

    A PRIORI, how do you know that the “odds” are indeed better for those yet unvaccinated to now welcome and accept your recommendation.

    IT IS UNKNOWN AND UNTESTED hypothesis of your own fertile imagination – exactly like political cows go around town to tell cotton sheep that the (UNKNOWN AND SILENT OF SUBSTANTIATION) so-called “BENEFIT” exceed the (EQUALLY UNKNOWN AND UN-ELABORATED) risks.

    REALLY? How come all the political cows shut their traps when seeing infection and mortality rate reach stratospheric height CONCURRENTLY as national-wide mass inoculation rolls out? They ALL PRETEND NO AWARENESS OF REALITY IN CONTRADICTION OF ACTUAL OUTCOME!

    Vax Wars: Go vax lah. Simply, your odds are better.
    Far better.

    Like you said CORRECTLY, it is the “ODDS” of your own deductive derivation, not proven fact nor can that be assessed pre-vaccination of risks complication chances (also odds too).

    At this late stage, you are fighting an uphill battle to gain trust and confidence of the recalcitrants. To their mind and vision, they see compelling evidences of mortality outcome and actual complication among the vaccinated not explained and/or accounted for.

    The obvious enigma is why comorbidities ALL SUDDENLY “WAKES UP” post-vaccination to trigger mortality. No one explains why these mortalities did NOT occur on the sitting chair awaiting vaccination, a day or a week or a month prior BUT ONLY MYSTERIOUSLY AFTER VACCINATION completion.

    The official explanation is CONVENIENTLY employ to cover vaccine death as “due to inherent vulnerability/conditions” which illness sustains for years, maybe decades without mortality outcome. SUDDENLY ALL THOSE COMORBIDITY DEATHS from vaccinated outcome are a HOMOGENOUS LAB RAT that must OR DESTINED to die together (almost predictable but not predictable before the vaccination takes place????)

    You know what Aleksandr Isayevich Solzhenitsyn says of such perverse deductive illogic of “comorbidity” deaths?

    Alexander Solzhenitsyn:We know they are lying, they know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, we know they know we know they are lying, but, they are still lying.

    http://www.321gold.com/quotes.html

    Your reference to Orchard Road not litter with dead corpse is DUST CLOUDS KICKED UP TO OBSCURE CLARITY.

    India has long stopped vaccinated a huge, even maybe majority, of its population from vaccination, do you see piles of bodies littered on the roadside of New Dehli or thrown into the Ganges river.

    China brutally locked down 13m Xian inhabitants BUT DID NOT RUSH OUT BOOSTER JABS for the rest nor make it mandatory of such jabs.

    POLITICAL COWS ARE PLAYING LIAR’S POKER. YOU COMPLICIT??

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  • oxygen:

    @ Vax Wars

    POLITICAL COWS are playing liar’s poker with the lives of the most vulnerable unvaccinated, why should they complicit in “suicide” of adding to the “comorbidity deaths statistics?

    oxygen: POLITICAL COWS ARE PLAYING LIAR’S POKER. YOU COMPLICIT??

    Your urging

    Vax Wars: Go vax lah

    is your UMPROMPTED CONFESSION of the voluntary nature of Covid-19 vaccination. This sanctity of choice has been progressively corroded and now seems completely breached and buried in the graveyard – for those unvaccinated prevented from going to work.

    and this right to life preservation choice is buried surreptitiously BYPASSING THE LEGISLATIVE LAW framework.

    Worst than China and not dissimilar to North Korea. What do you say?

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  • MarBowling:

    bias sampling:
    January 3, 2022 at 12:59 am (Quote)
    @Vax Wars

    So this is happening worldwide in every hospitals everyday? Search engine hunting will retrieve stories from both spectrums, so how? We cherry pick together until cows come home?

    I like to know if you have have consider all the relevant things that has occurred since the start of the COVID debacle (not just the science and “science” stuff but also things like the political and corporate actions by the major players WORLDWIDE).

    If you had, you will realise that science wasn’t really science and got hijacked. A lot of things just don’t add up to confidently to signal trust, and instead breed more severe doubts. Too much contradictions, lies and questionable actions from the vaccine peddlers and marketers, authoritative bodies that just screams distrust (the latest being outright totalitarianism despite rational and reasonable doubts that are left unanswered, so much for science despite peddling science).

    If you hadn’t, then you don’t really have any standing in asking someone to jab so casually eh?

    I just leave you with this weird observation I can’t seem to scratch off: We all wanna just get over COVID right? Why then, aren’t doctors allowed to treat the patients as they best can (meaning trying out other methods)? Why are the governing bodies chaining them to just using the experimental vaccines and those few standard protocols? Why kill off other competing therapeutics and not subject them to try outs as well?

    Response: Well said. Totally agree with your GREAT COMMENTS. Folks should WAKE UP from their Slumberland and ABLE TO DIFFERENTIATE WHAT IS RIGHT OR WRONG!

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  • oxygen:

    @ China, China

    GLOBAL VACCINATION ROLL OUT is heavily politicised – the Western World has blocked Chinese vaccines, so it is naturally that the Chinese want to established its own “mRNA” experimental concoction before greenlighting foreign-made.

    In China till now, only Sinovac and Sinopharm rein supreme and doupoly of its vaccine roll-out, nationally. I wonder how Chinese students met with “fully vaccination” status returning to foreign universities abroad. Originally, Australia “accept” Chinese vaccine completed of jabs within China but that I understand is reneged – partly due to trade politics warfare and retaliation. I don’t know what is the status quo for Chinese students returning to campuses in US and EU or Sinkieland of which vaccine is acceptable and which is not.

    But I say this and repeat again, Ah Tiong Land is not what it seems to be – at least in the eyes of those alien to its culture, history, politics and law but ITS TECHNOLOGY IS COMPETITIVE on the global stage.

    China is instant noodle, instant hospital (Wuhan), then dismantled, instant skyscraper, INSTANT CONTRACT LAW (laughable), instant cover up (Dr. Li WenLiang/Bo Xi Lai episodes comes to my mind), the play-like drama life of the last Emperor, PU YI in history, BUT CHINESE ONCE THEY LEARN WESTERN TECHNOLOGY OUTSMART THEM fast and ruthless of achievement ( Lenovo whipped IBM, Chinese autos and I strongly suspect Chinese Electric Vehicle make will whip Tesla on home soil and export market, 5G telecom (Huawei, if not stopped) are pointers.

    There is no instant success from Chinese mRNA which the west is still struggling.

    SO I SAY THIS- LET THE BUYERS OF CHINESE mRNA beware (when it is available). There is no instant medicine except snake oil concoction, just like INSTANT FAKE FINANCIAL ACCOUNTING in collapsed red chips listed on foreign stock exchanges.

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  • In jest:

    Your 5 room flat is worth over $1 million? You know what to do.

    You want your children to have a good paying job and have a better head start by buying a property for each of them than other fresh graduates with poor parents.

    I am sure you won’t jump down, many others much younger than you are in a worse position and would.

    I am also sure that you voted for PAP.

    How come before you retire, you never speak for others, now then you voice up!

    You, typical Singaporean.

    Increase Helping The Elderly?:
    I am over 71 years old and unable to get employment. When I was working, I used to pay over S$9,000 per year. I stayed in a 5 room HDB flat and not entitled to receive any of the government free gift for the poor.

    My two tertiary educated children are finding it difficult to get jobs due to the large numbers of FTs in Singapore. The only help I get from the PAP while unemployed is the S$600 which everybody gets.

    Now the price of everything is increasing. Water, Electricity, GST, Property tax, Transport fares, Food etc..

    Recently I went for CT Scan which cost S$700 plus but was charged S$250 and Ultrasound which cost S$600 but was charged at S$140. Why are our Health cost so high in Singapore ?

    I borrowed money from friends to pay. LHL mentioned that all these increases are to help the elderly. Where got ?

    The PAP Ministers and Elites are getting millions of Dollars salaries without a single dollar of reduction.

    Mr Khaw Boon Wan an ex Minister recently went for a bypass heart operation and he mentioned that he was charged S$8 only. Million Dollars salary paid S$8 for and operation and unemployed elderly forced to pay hundreds of dollars for health procedure.

    Do you want us the unemployed elderly to jump down from our flats ?

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    I am also hiding under a moniker.

    I cannot stand opposite comments, that is why I am replying to my critics now, here.

    Singaporeans R Free Riders: You Oppositions are behaving just like the Hong Kong black shirt rioters.
    Only you (they) can talk and views opposing you (them) cannot talk otherwise it will be deemed as attack on you (them) ?

    If you cannot take opposite comments, than do not comments. Zip your mouth.

    That’s it. You enjoy it, you had your good time. You go enjoying with your children… did you help those who are less fortunate not out of their free will (hardworking but still cannot make it) ?

    My PAP is correct. Opposition are racist as they target CECA Indians only….

    They do not target the Chinese which many are also here with fake degrees…
    RCEP登場!亞洲經濟發光!世界最大經濟圈2022
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jGH80HzCwI

    I challenge Opposition to go target the Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Australians….What? Balls drop ? What ? You are happy hiding behind moniker ? Hahaha…

    2nd challenge to Opposition: Get custom to Insert this in the entry white card:
    Drug trafficking carries the death sentence and fake academics qualification carries the deportation sentence.

    What ? Again ball drop ? What ? you just want to hide behind moniker ?hahahaha ….

    I urge all Singaporean to question and question Opposition reasoning.

    PAP supporters please print/distribute/share my post.
    In Dollar$ We Tru$t. Prai$e the Dollar$. Glory be with the Dollar$
    GE2024.PAP.Guarantee.Win.Again
    Majullah $PAP$ $PAP$ Huat$ Huat$ Huat$
    Singaporeans must be Cheaperer, Betterer, Fasterer

    PAP supporters please print/distribute/share my post.
    In Dollar$ We Tru$t. Prai$e the Dollar$. Glory be with the Dollar$
    GE2024.PAP.Guarantee.Win.Again
    Majullah $PAP$ $PAP$ Huat$ Huat$ Huat$
    Singaporeans must be Cheaperer, Betterer, Fasterer

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    Serve you right if you voted for PAP.

    You Are Wrong:
    @Singaporeans R Free Riders

    What The Fark ? Why do you any how attack and criticize me a 71 years old Singaporean without any actual facts ?

    Yes I did enjoy some benefits under LKY and Goh rule. So did everybody at that time. I was not in a position to retrench or replace any younger or older Singaporeans staff as all our staff in the company were Singaporeans.

    When LHL took over I was retrenched and replaced by an Indian FT. They came by the hundreds of thousand. So please don’t any how fiack or curse me OK.

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  • Did you vote for PAP ever?:

    Please do not use the word “everyone”.

    You bought you 5 room flat real cheap. Singles could not buy one then.

    Now flats are real expensive, even resale 4 room could cost over a million.

    How about those unemployed in their 40s, those non-graduates competing with foreign talents, S pass holders and work permit holders?

    Your problems are real?

    People can even complain they have to pay ABSD for third property or their children could not afford to buy a private property.

    No wonder GST has to go up and property prices also up to increase government revenue to give to people to win their votes.

    A 71 year old should be mature enough to think not just for himself, his children.

    You Are Wrong:
    @Singaporeans R Free Riders

    What The Fark ? Why do you any how attack and criticize me a 71 years old Singaporean without any actual facts ?

    Yes I did enjoy some benefits under LKY and Goh rule. So did everybody at that time. I was not in a position to retrench or replace any younger or older Singaporeans staff as all our staff in the company were Singaporeans.

    When LHL took over I was retrenched and replaced by an Indian FT. They came by the hundreds of thousand. So please don’t any how fiack or curse me OK. KNNBCCB

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  • Go To Hell:

    @Singaporeans R Free Riders

    Who the fiack are U to Tell To Zip My Mouth ?

    How Do You Know I went Out Enjoying With My Children ?

    You called me a Racist targeting CECA Indians. So what if I am a Racist ? What can you do about it ?

    You did not lose your job to an Indian, but I did.

    I am already old and going to die soon, so I do not mind bringing anybody who wants to accompany me to Heaven. Diu Lay Loh Moh

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  • Wrong criteria. Again:

    Straits Times: More than 280,000 households receive $30 public transport vouchers in first stage

    The vouchers should NOT be given based on income. ALL households (in public and private housing) that do NOT have a car registered in the address should be given the vouchers because the members of these households use public transport.

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  • "Gross Domestic Problem":

    Straits Times: Singapore economy grows 5.9% in Q4 and 7.2% in 2021, better than expected: Flash data

    GDP is a misleading basically useless economic metric because it does not measure “well-being”. It has been proven that GDP is a misleading measure that “does not add up”.

    Sadly, ruthless narcissist LKY was fixated on GDP growth at all cost for “bragging rights”. Good thing he is now also “GDP” (Good Dead Permanently and he is never coming back ever).

    “Let’s go Brandon”
    “Let’s go PAP”
    “Let’s go LKY”
    “Let’s go LHL”

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  • EVs are a gimmick:

    Straits Times: The Singaporean leading the charge on electric cars in the world’s biggest auto market

    EVs are not really “green” if the greenhouse gases produced in their manufacture, operation (electricity used to charge them is not “green”) and subsequent disposal are taken into account.

    EV’s are a gimmick that government like because they can use as a new source of government revenue.

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    http://m.shaoxing.com.cn/p/2910708.html

    不能以出轨为由请求离婚?这篇文章让网友都惊呆了

    On this matter i have to say best democracy. All the men will be very happy. 太好了,可以去滾!.

    But vice versa. Woman also same. Get ready to wear “green hat”. Maybe several hats. Maybe kids also others but unknown you take care on behalf.

    幾好啊! 各有各玩.

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  • Wrong Info:

    @In Jest

    I am not a Business Owner nor an Entrepreneur but a normal working man, so I cannot be considered rich with millions of dollars in the bank.

    1) 5 Rm HDB Cost above 1 Million Dollars – If you are willing to pay me 1 million dollars for my HDB, I will immediately sell to you now. How about it ? FYI I live in Bedok.

    2) Ever since LHL took over and let in the CECA Anehs, I had stopped voting for the PAP – and I am proud of my decision.

    3) I am from the old generation citizen and I don’t believe in buying property for my children even if I can afford it. I prefer them to work their way up to archive success. This will turn them into a better man. Indirectly better people to lead Singapore into the future.

    4) FYI I am a non-Graduate. I fought my way up to beat many foreign graduates. Unless the employers want cheaper salaries FT, then that’s gonna be a big problem.

    5) I did not retire, I was retrenched and replace with a cheaper CECA Aneh.

    6) Lastly, I hope all younger Singaporeans will fight to the death, since everybody dies once. This is how Singapore can win and succeed.

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    PAP mandate strong:
    http://m.shaoxing.com.cn/p/2910708.html
    不能以出轨为由请求离婚?这篇文章让网友都惊呆了

    On this matter i have to say best democracy. All the men will be very happy. 太好了,可以去滾!.

    But vice versa. Woman also same. Get ready to wear “green hat”. Maybe several hats. Maybe kids also others but unknown you take care on behalf.

    幾好啊! 各有各玩.

    This is CCP screw up logic just like Americunt leftist screw up logic that it is your right to choose your sex… if you are a she you can choose to be ahe…These 2 screw up cuntries should nuke and wipe each other out of this world..

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    Go To Hell:
    @Singaporeans R Free Riders
    Who the fiack are U to Tell To Zip My Mouth ?
    How Do You Know I went Out Enjoying With My Children ?

    You admitted you and everybody else benefited from my PAP master.
    Every man for himself isn’t it? 各家自扫门前雪对吧 ?
    Agreed ?

    Go To Hell:
    You called me a Racist targeting CECA Indians. So what if I am a Racist ? What can you do about it ?

    Thanks for admitting that Opposition are racist as my PAP master called it.

    The Chinese had more fake degrees than India.
    女子網購LSE畢業證書 成功騙取年薪250萬主管職缺
    https://news.ltn.com.tw/news/society/breakingnews/2449923

    Go To Hell:
    You did not lose your job to an Indian, but I did.

    I was retrenched 2 times by 2 NUS grad who think high and mighty of themselves and spit on my external degree.
    Both of them should be 71 years old now like you.

    I bumped into one of them and I laugh at her…

    Go To Hell:
    I am already old and going to die soon, so I do not mind bringing anybody who wants to accompany me to Heaven. Diu Lay Loh Moh

    Ok. Noted. But can you do us a favour by bringing all the 71 plus with you?
    Priority are given to those old man who screw around and never do good for society.

    She said: I like old men – Vlog 66
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz9a55KJc2s

    Old people who had lived and enjoyed enough should not be blocking the progress of young people like me.

    Thank you…. and Diu Lay Loh Moh Hum Kar Chan

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  • oxygen:

    @ EVs are a gimmick:

    INDEED. EVs ARE BIG FIRE RISKS too. And in high density urbanised city living like LEE-jiapore, where to build charging station or plug the charging cable wire into PAPpynomic’s a*seholes?

    EVs are a gimmick: Straits Times: The Singaporean leading the charge on electric cars in the world’s biggest auto market

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  • oxygen:

    ANYWAY, THIS THREAD topic is about voluntary nature of covid-10 vaccination, NOT about one UMPROMPTED CONFESSION of a lunatic 5 Malaysian sen per post of deliberate trolling “free rider” now found in this thread with his desiccated coconut and eyeball inside his “a*sehole”

    He should really kill his time more profitably by going back to rubber-tapping or durian picking.

    Ignore this mousey rat, LET US ALL GET BACK TO THE VACCINE DEBATE, shall we?

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  • oxygen:

    @ Gross Domestic Problem

    INDEED IT IS UNDER PERFORMING of artificial growth ejaculation that was Covid-19 induced stimulus.

    $100 billion “free money” from reserves given away for employers/employees to spend in 2020/2021 adds up to 25% (assuming a GDP base of $400 billion) of gross domestic expenditure.

    on manipulated statistics and PAPpypolitics/PAPpynomic’s propaganda, this addition of 5.9% is peanut of no achievement/

    "Gross Domestic Problem": Straits Times: Singapore economy grows 5.9% in Q4 and 7.2% in 2021, better than expected: Flash data

    WHO SAYS NO COUNTRY CAN BOOST ITSELF OUT OF THIS PANDEMIC and PAPpynomics already knew that its opening of border to seduce economic intercourse with the rest of the world is already FLOPPING BEFORE OMICRON.

    So why the enforced (unspoken and un-legislated) mandatory vaccination imposition instead of publicly-acclaimed “voluntary” tolerance of even a lesser than 5% of recalcitrant Sinkies/PRs??

    If they make it legally mandatory FOR ALL RESIDENTS, A LOT OF FOREIGNERS WILL LEAVE and a lot of UNCOMPLETED construction projects will be abandoned and economy WILL TUMBLE FROM ARTIFICIAL HEIGHTS.

    Or no, that won’t happen??

    ANYONE GOT ANY COMMENT TO ADD ON? Let us come back to this thread topic focus.

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  • Go To Hell:

    So You Must be a Chinese. Probably Anti-Singapore Traitor.

    You Did Not Answer Me about How You Know Me Going Out And Enjoying with mu children.

    I did not admit that I am a Racist. You are supposed to be good in English but how come you did not understand the word “IF” ?

    I do not mind if I was retrenched and replaced by another Singaporean Chinese/Malay/Indian but not a CECA Indian.

    Why ? Because there is no good reason for the PAP to help solve India’s UNEMPLOYMENT PROBLEM and in turn make our IT citizen into Grab driver, Food Delivery etc.

    When I was selling IT to the banks in 1980s there were less than 5 CECA Indians IT people in the banks. The rest were Singaporeans IT people maintaining mini and mainframe banking computer system. Reason is India was never a Financial Centre. Now almost all of them are CECA Indians and this why our DBS Bank always got technical IT problems.

    We are Singaporeans and we should all fight for Singaporeans and if the PAP is not taking care of Singaporeans welfare, then we should kick them out in the coming GE.

    Anyway, I have spent too much time trying to advise you and I think its time you should wake up your farking idea GOODBYE.

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  • Do yourself a favour:

    Please convince your wife, children and those around you not to vote PAP that lands you in this state.

    You have earned your keeps in the past, sent 2 children to university, now complaining using your hard earned savings. How many people cannot even afford to buy a flat, pay for their kids school fees, not to mention private tuition fees, have to work at age of 75 yo definitely not for exercise reason.

    If your wife and children are still voting PAP, sorry to say … history will repeat into the next generation, worse than your situation now. Did you vote for PAP repeatedly and say nothing when JBJ and CSJ were literally persecuted?

    You think it is fair?

    I am not a PAP or Opposition Party member or supporter.

    I just think our system can be improved if we all think not just for ourselves and our families.

    Go To Hell:
    So You Must be a Chinese. Probably Anti-Singapore Traitor.

    You Did Not Answer Me about How You Know Me Going Out And Enjoying with mu children.

    I did not admit that I am a Racist. You are supposed to be good in English but how come you did not understand the word “IF” ?

    I do not mind if I was retrenched and replaced by another Singaporean Chinese/Malay/Indian but not a CECA Indian.

    Why ? Because there is no good reason for the PAP to help solve India’s UNEMPLOYMENT PROBLEM and in turn make our IT citizen into Grab driver, Food Delivery etc.

    When I was selling IT to the banks in 1980s there were less than 5 CECA Indians IT people in the banks. The rest were Singaporeans IT people maintaining mini and mainframe banking computer system. Reason is India was never a Financial Centre. Now almost all of them are CECA Indians and this why our DBS Bank always got technical IT problems.

    We are Singaporeans and we should all fight for Singaporeans and if the PAP is not taking care of Singaporeans welfare, then we should kick them out in the coming GE.

    Anyway, I have spent too much time trying to advise you and I think its time you should wake up your farking idea GOODBYE.

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  • Most People Can Afford A Flat:

    @ Do Yourself A Favour

    During my time ie under LKY, practically everybody can afford to buy a flat. even a low wage worker because it was cheap – a 3 RM cost S$7K and a 5 Rm cost about S$15K. Now under Goh and LHL we are talking about hundreds of thousand of dollars. But our salary did not go up proportionately. Except for the Ministers level it is millions of dollars PA. Is this farking fair ?

    I did not vote for JBJ because he did not represent my constituency. It seemed the majority of the people did not favor him, don’t know why.

    But Chee Soon Juan had been unfairly demonised by the govt. He again did not represent my constituency or else I would have voted for him. CSJ and the wife have got doctorate degrees and they stay in a 3 RM flat and drive an old car. If he had worked for the PAP, he could easily stay in a bungalow. Why Because he is fighting for the citizens.

    CSJ had been going in and out of prison many times when he fight for the citizens. Sad to say, he is sacrificing himself and his family in fighting for the citizens.

    CAN YOU TELL ME HOW MANY SINGAPORE POLITICIANS HAS GONE TO PRISON REPEATEDLY IN FIGHTING FOR THE CITIZENS ? So Far NONE. Its a matter of time, he will be voted into Parliament to fight for all of us.

    FYI I am not a member of PAP or other Oppo party. I am just a hardworking citizen who believes in Fairness and this is how I feel about what is happening in Singapore. By the way, I am also a Reservist who has been trained to kill by the SAF. If it is necessary to kill, so be it.

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