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Our Body, Our Choice

Science aside, the vaccination conflict in Singapore today is, basically an issue about individualism vs collectivism. The salient question to ask should be: Does the individual’s life belong to him/her—or does it belong to the group, the community, society, or the state? With government imposing ever more restrictions rapidly— and intruding on our businesses and lives in increasingly onerous ways—the need for clarity on this issue has never been greater. Let us begin by defining the terms at hand. Individualism or collectivism—which of these ideas is correct?

Individualism is the belief that an individual’s life is his own and that he has an unalienable right to live it as he sees fit, to make his own decisions, to keep and utilize the efforts of his labor, and to follow the ideals of his choice. It’s the belief that the person is sovereign, a goal in himself, and the most essential moral unit.

Collectivism is the belief that an individual’s life belongs to the group or society of which he is only a member, that he has no rights, and that he must give up his ideals and aspirations for the “better good” of the collective. The group or society, according to collectivism, is the primary unit of moral concern, and the individual is only valuable inasmuch as he helps the collective. “Man has no rights save those that society enables him to enjoy.” From the moment he is born until the moment he dies, society grants him some so-called rights while denying him others; not because society wishes to favor or oppress the individual, but because its own survival, welfare, and happiness are the most important factors.

Which has the facts on its side?

Although one may argue that “God” creates people and separates us as individuals. The fundamental metaphysical statement made by Frederick Douglass is unmistakably correct. Human beings are by nature unique, independent entities; everyone must utilize his or her own thinking and command his or her own body; no one is metaphysically linked to or dependent on another. I’m not naturally attached to you, and you’re not attached to me. I can’t walk on your legs, and you can’t walk on mine. I won’t be able to breathe for you, or you for me. We are unique individuals with faculties/abilities required for our very own survivals.

What politics follows from those of collectivism?

This is the moral foundation of governance throughout history—not justice, equality, rights, diversity, government, or even wealth or opportunity. Government requires citizens to strike a balance between self-interest and the general good. This is essentially the only argument leaders have for governance: Citizens sacrificing for and engaging in the building of a common good are being asked to contribute to a ‘project’ greater than themselves. The person is sometimes put to a considerable lot of hardship as a result of the use of this authority, and he may even be subjected to what looks to be injustice. This is unfortunate, but it is unavoidable because civilized society’s goal is to do the greatest good for the greatest number, and because the greatest number can benefit from the greatest good, each individual must subordinate his or her own desires or
inclinations for the benefit of all.

What would happen if we did the latter? As Ayn Rand said, “You would be surprised how quickly the ideologists of collectivism retreat when they encounter a confident, intellectual adversary. Their case rests on appealing to human confusion, ignorance, dishonesty, cowardice, despair. Take the side they dare not approach; appeal to human intelligence.”

Hundreds of millions of people were tortured and slaughtered by Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Mussolini, Pol Pot, and their ilk in the name of ”the greatest good for the greatest number”— “the greatest good for the greatest number” is one of the most heinous slogans ever imposed on humanity. The greatest number, seventy million Germans supported the Nazi government which told them that their greatest good would be served by exterminating the smaller number, the six million Jews. But, you might say, the majority in all these examples did not achieve any real good for itself either? No. It didn’t. Because “the good”
is not determined by counting numbers and is not achieved by the sacrifice of anyone to anyone.

This brings us to the realm of our vaccination mandates:

To be sure, societies—consisting as they do of individuals—need moral principles, too, but only for the purpose of enabling individuals to act in ways necessary to sustain and further their own lives. Thus, the one moral principle that a society must embrace if it is to be a civilized society is the principle of individual rights: the recognition of the fact that each individual is morally an end in himself and has a moral prerogative to act on his judgment for his own sake, free from coercion by others.

On this principle, each individual has a right to think and act as he sees fit; he has a right to produce and trade the products of his efforts voluntarily, by mutual consent to mutual benefit; he has a right to disregard complaints that he is not serving some so-called “greater good”—and no one, including groups and governments, has a moral right to force him to act against
his judgment. Ever.

 

Sjorne Shen

 

 

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80 Responses to “Our Body, Our Choice”

  • @Fire

    Why need an expert coroner to establish his cause of death? Get a patient from IMH or a medical intern and the result will be the same, i.e. not related to vaccine. He probably died of underlying conditions, maybe a toothache that caused excruciating pain until his heart cannot take it and stopped? lol

    I up my bet to $1000 on a 1:2, any takers?

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  • Calvin, the old turtle:

    TRE Tech:
    @Fire

    Why need an expert coroner to establish his cause of death? Get a patient from IMH or a medical intern and the result will be the same, i.e. not related to vaccine. He probably died of underlying conditions, maybe a toothache that caused excruciating pain until his heart cannot take it and stopped? lol

    I up my bet to $1000 on a 1:2, any takers?

    @ Fire
    I now speculate parents and wanna vaxed children parents siam che sai (let go green shits)

    I upped TRE Tech’s bet. lol

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  • @Calvin, the old turtle

    It can be said that GUARANTEED it will “not be due to vaccine”. This is not just about the death of an insignificant peasant, its bigger than that 1 digit.

    It’s about the LEEder’s lies versus a peasant’s life.

    Unless the coroner has a death wish or is intending to retire early, there is NO WAY on Earth that he will dare to certify that the 16-year-old died from vaccine.

    If he DARE certifies that indeed the boy died from the vaccine, that would imply that the LEEders and the MTF and all their so-called experts have been LYING THROUGH THEIR TEETH about the vaccine being safe and the “benefits outweigh the risks” bull of a shit.

    Had this happened in the China before Xi, the boy’s body would have been snatched from the parents and forced cremated upon death and the case would have been closed.

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    I like the writer use of Germany as Hilter was democratically elected and later shifts from democracies to authoritarian governments.

    And we are seeing the same thing happening in ROC Taiwan where the sugar coated poison Democratic Tsai shut down media that criticize her.

    Today, Tsai Democratic Progressive Party even want to control the internet.

    NCC推”網管法”!民眾驚呆:網路戒嚴時代要來了嗎?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GqT1N1oR-k

    The reason why Tsai want to control the internet is because she wants to silence all critics who investigate into her “unclean” background.

    Tsai’s father operate a hotel and supplies prostitute to Americunts…getting rich on immoral earnings.

    Facts: 蔡執政,府院黨桃花朵朵開 (facts well research by lawyer 童溫層)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NjuNDTGI6k

    邱毅:蔡英文的“民主自由” 实则是包着糖衣的毒药!
    Loosely translated : Tsai’s Democracy & Freedom in reality is Sugar Coated Poison
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JedPo4Ei2s

    PAP supporters please print/distribute/share my post.
    In Dollar$ We Tru$t. Prai$e the Dollar$. Glory be with the Dollar$

    GE2024.PAP.Guarantee.Win.Again
    Majullah $PAP$ $PAP$ Huat$ Huat$ Huat$
    Singaporeans must be Cheaperer, Betterer, Fasterer

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  • Fire:

    Let the coroner perform the Octupus to get the bottom to it .

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  • LongTong Ai Hum:

    You die your business, we want to boost to be the first country in the world to be named 100% vaxed. My name will be mentioned all over the world – Ah Long.

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  • John Doe:

    TRE Tech:
    @Calvin, the old turtle

    It can be said that GUARANTEED it will “not be due to vaccine”. This is not just about the death of an insignificant peasant, its bigger than that 1 digit.

    It’s about the LEEder’s lies versus a peasant’s life.

    Unless the coroner has a death wish or is intending to retire early, there is NO WAY on Earth that he will dare to certify that the 16-year-old died from vaccine.

    If he DARE certifies that indeed the boy died from the vaccine, that would imply that the LEEders and the MTF and all their so-called experts have been LYING THROUGH THEIR TEETH about the vaccine being safe and the “benefits outweigh the risks” bull of a shit.

    Had this happened in the China before Xi, the boy’s body would have been snatched from the parents and forced cremated upon death and the case would have been closed.

    There’s a NEW GOD in SG for Singaporeans to pray and worship him for health (vaccines ARE GOOD, and the Govt is MORE EXPERIENCED after SARs) and prosperity (HDB flats are STORE of Value, will NEVER NEVER go down EXCEPT UP up up fly skyward like a PAP test balloon).

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  • John Doe:

    Fire:
    Let the coroner perform the Octupus to get the bottom to it .

    When the CORONER follow the same rules as, inside is NOT WITHIN, how?

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  • John Doe:

    Fire:
    Let the coroner perform the Octupus to get the bottom to it .

    Don’t be surprised the Magician who turned an Indian into Malay would sign the coroner’s report, bcz the actual coroner is not God.

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  • Trilogy of hell:

    False or Face?

    To the pappy face is more important than false!

    We have probably the lowest Covid deaths rate per population! Even at the extent of unrelating death to Covid infection to save face!

    We have nil death related to Covid vaccine! Believe it or not?

    It is in the “trilogy of hell” interest to unrelate to save face even being false which is hard to prove as they control the narratives!

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  • MarBowling:

    The EVENTUAL Verdict by the Holee Coroner will CONFIRM WHETHER MOH STANDS FOR MINISTRY OF HEALTH OR MINISTRY OF HELL!

    The CAUSE OF DEATH OF THIS TEENAGER WHETHER DUE TO THE HOLEE mRNA VACCINE OR NOT IS ON THE LOVING HANDS OF THOSE TASKED TO AND INVOLVED IN THIS MILESTONE CASE, PERIOD!

    HEAVEN IS WATCHING 24/7/365! KARMA, GOOD OR BAD AND RETRIBUTION, GOOD OR BAD WILL EVENTUALLY CATCH UP WITH THEM AND THEIR FAMILEES FOR DOING THE RIGHT OR WRONG THINGY!

    MAN PROPOSES GOD DISPOSES!

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  • illiterate pap voters:

    On this principle, each individual has a right to think and act as he sees fit; he has a right to produce and trade the products of his efforts voluntarily, by mutual consent to mutual benefit; he has a right to disregard complaints that he is not serving some so-called “greater good”—and no one, including groups and governments, has a moral right to force him to act against
    his judgment. Ever.

    The above is only partly correct.

    BECAUSE

    In any community, whether pap island or communist China, rules exist to regulate behavior in that community.

    Any individual for sure has the right to think and act as the person sees fit, until the person’s thinking and action begin to impinge on their neighbor. This is when community rules come into play.

    SO

    For sure nobody can force anybody to be vaccinated. BUT if any person wants to participate in the activities of their neighbor, then, community rules come into play.

    In this instance, the community rule is, no vax no joining.

    THE rule is fair and square. Cry all you want. Individual rights cease to exist as soon as that individual steps into the community arena.

    Is the current community rule correct? We don’t know. We are not arguing whether it is right or wrong.

    We are only saying individual right is only absolute within individual space. Example, if pap Cb says she doesn’t need much space to ffff, that is her individual right. As long as she ffff in her own small store room, nobody can do anything about it.

    BUT if she insisted everyone ffff in a small room too, when the community rule everyone ffff in the size they prefer, then, even though she is a pap Cb, she has no say in the matter.

    THE same goes with individual right not to be vaxxed. Which does not mean the unvaxxed can participate in the community when the community rule says only the vaxxed can play.

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  • Tosei Add Plenty Hum:

    @ TRE Tech

    Please stand corrected.

    Mai Hum’s state coroner is a SHE.

    Her reversed name is ALAMAK.

    This is a malay colloquial and it means = Good Grief.

    Yes, the name already suggests that it’s a foregone conclusion.

    What do you think ?

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  • Water:

    In a country where the definition of inside is not the same as within , the cause of death will never be attributed to the vaccine. The vaccine is not a lethal poison and so a person will never be defined as being killed by the vaccine. All the best in your claims. Never gonna happen here, at least for 70 years until more data is release by the vaccine makers. However, it may be the cause of other parts of the body to malfunction. Will the autopsy indicate that the malfunction part as the only reason of death? Weak heart, or underlying medical conditions? May all the truths be known in a moon’s time.

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  • PAP divide SG:

    @illiterate PAP voters.

    On community games and about community places.

    Vax and unvaxx tax payers paid taxes funding them. Why create rules to discriminate unvax tax payers by excluding them to play and visit community places.

    By paying their fair share of taxes, and contributing to SG – who’s to set up, segregate discriminating discriminations, esp when community and community places are not designed for any discriminations in mind.

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  • Indian Rojak Ai Hum:

    @ TRE Tech

    Please stand corrected.

    Mai Hum’s state coroner is a SHE.

    Her reversed name is ALAMAK.

    This is a malay colloquial and it means = Good Grief.

    Yes, the name already suggests that it’s a foregone conclusion.

    And this is what I think….

    The forgone conclusion of their autopsy will certainly vindicate them that they were right all along, that this vaccine is very safe with very mild side affects and that no death has been attributed to it.

    Believe me, the sheep will trust them even more with all their hearts, with all their might and with all their souls to worship their everlasting god.

    Their media especially Sh*t Times will become the messenger with angels harking and trumpeting all over everyday of their good news.

    This will once and for all shut the f**k up the hesitancy to vaccinate or forever hold your PEACE!

    Many parents will stand in line to register eagerly for their children to be vaxxed.

    Boosters after boosters will become today’s idolised POP culture.

    Very soon the vax rate will shoot up to 101% and this Sinkiekand will trance into exciting hysteria.

    We will be the only nation without vaccine death todate and the world will drool over our success.

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  • 曹智柏:

    胚胎还没成形,就在那边说一定会这样,一定会那样。。。

    吃太饱撑着了?

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  • Who Am I:

    The governing politicians in SG has for years, 50 over years, very zealous in guarding their selfish ‘good’ and they sell what they practise as ‘good’ for themselves is also good for SG.

    Since when what is common for these PAP politicians are also ‘common for SG’, esp – read, ask Chia Thye Poh, (if possible JBJ), Tan Wah Piow, Teo Soh Lung, Chee SJ just a few of 1000s I m sure.
    And how is PAP’s good to be defined good, good for all these named no less Singaporeans, and perhaps, for 100s of 1000s of Singaporeans, in SG’ s Sengkang for eg?

    In generic terms of common good, as what is practised in many other countries as a moral concept societal platform – there is no such things as a parallel concept applicable in practise in SG too, because living environments are not homogenous.

    So writers don’t loosely use the words, common good, to support your justification, in your beliefs to preach a SG common good , please.

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    illiterate pap voters: The above is only partly correct.

    BECAUSE

    In any community, whether pap island or communist China, rules exist to regulate behavior in that community.

    Any individual for sure has the right to think and act as the person sees fit, until the person’s thinking and action begin to impinge on their neighbor. This is when community rules come into play.

    SO

    For sure nobody can force anybody to be vaccinated. BUT if any person wants to participate in the activities of their neighbor, then, community rules come into play.

    In this instance, the community rule is, no vax no joining.

    THE rule is fair and square. Cry all you want. Individual rights cease to exist as soon as that individual steps into the community arena.

    Is the current community rule correct? We don’t know. We are not arguing whether it is right or wrong.

    We are only saying individual right is only absolute within individual space. Example, if pap Cb says she doesn’t need much space to ffff, that is her individual right. As long as she ffff in her own small store room, nobody can do anything about it.

    BUT if she insisted everyone ffff in a small room too, when the community rule everyone ffff in the size they prefer, then, even though she is a pap Cb, she has no say in the matter.

    THE same goes with individual right not to be vaxxed. Which does not mean the unvaxxed can participate in the community when the community rule says only the vaxxed can play.

    Good rebuttal…clap..clap..clap

    A simple illustration would be No Dogs Allowed sign outside a restaurant.

    In this instance, an individual rights to bring his beloved puppy would cease if he or she wants to eat in that restaurant.

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  • MarBowling:

    Tosei Add Plenty Hum:
    December 31, 2021 at 11:48 am (Quote)
    @ TRE Tech

    Please stand corrected.

    Mai Hum’s state coroner is a SHE.

    Her reversed name is ALAMAK.

    This is a malay colloquial and it means = Good Grief.

    Yes, the name already suggests that it’s a foregone conclusion.

    What do you think ?

    Response: THINK ALAMAK, IT’S GONE CASE! Like that, it means that GREAT Dr Paul Yang would be in VERY DEEP SHIT! MAYBE HIS CAREER AND REPUTATION ALSO GONE CASE! HEAVEN BLESS HIM!

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    PAP divide SG:
    @illiterate PAP voters.

    On community games and about community places.

    Vax and unvaxx tax payers paid taxes funding them. Why create rules to discriminate unvax tax payers by excluding them to play and visit community places.

    By paying their fair share of taxes, and contributing to SG – who’s to set up, segregate discriminating discriminations, esp when community and community places are not designed for any discriminations in mind.

    Let me rephrase for you.

    Durian lovers and Durian haters, tax payers paid taxes funding them (community places such as MRT and buses). Why create rule to discriminate Durian lovers by disallowing them to bring durians into MRT train and buses.

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  • Realistically:

    @ Sjorne Shen

    >>Science aside, the vaccination conflict in Singapore today is, basically an issue about individualism vs collectivism.<<

    Sorry, the emperor without clothes' MMTF justification for their ill-begotten policies is their claim to be based on "science".

    The ONLY problem is that in so far as the 'science' pertaining to the SARS-CoV-2 virus and the mRNA vaccines are concerned, it is a REALITY that, although much HAS BEEN learnt, much REMAINS to be learnt………which show why the emperor without clothes rationale and justifications for their epic failures in the management of the COVID-19 pandemic have been exposed as 'bad' science.

    The emperor without clothes' MMTF admissions of their wrongs are by and of themselves should convince those who succumbed to his propaganda to reassess their confidence and trust in him.

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  • Trilogy of hell:

    The unvax collectively is part of the whole community.

    Whoever in govt sets the rules for the neutral community space which discrimates vs the unvax individual is WRONG!

    Unless the govt mandates the vaccination thingy then it is ok for the govt to apply the community space restriction!

    The govt cannot have the cake & eat it! If the trilogy of hell govt allow individuals to choose to vax or unvax then they cannot take away this choice from unvax individuals to enter community space by imposing such restriction! THEN REMOVE THIS CHOICE ALTOGETHER TO VAX OR UNVAX IF THIS GOVT BELIEVE VACCINATION IS SAFE & EFFECTIVE TO PROTECT THE NATION FROM COVID INFECTION!

    IT IS STUPID TO COMPARE RESTRICTION TO DOGS AS THEY ARE NOT HUMAN BEINGS WITH MORAL CHOICE!

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  • Fire:

    States time execution is fast .

    US Covid death 823K and more .

    https://www.channelnewsasia.com/world/pfizers-covid-19-shot-causes-mostly-mild-side-effects-young-kids-us-cdc-2408421

    Indian Rojak Ai Hum:
    @ TRE Tech

    Please stand corrected.

    Mai Hum’s state coroner is a SHE.

    Her reversed name is ALAMAK.

    This is a malay colloquial and it means = Good Grief.

    Yes, the name already suggests that it’s a foregone conclusion.

    And this is what I think….

    The forgone conclusion of their autopsy will certainly vindicate them that they were right all along, that this vaccine is very safe with very mild side affects and that no death has been attributed to it.

    Believe me, the sheep will trust them even more with all their hearts, with all their might and with all their souls to worship their everlasting god.

    Their media especially Sh*t Times will become the messenger with angels harking and trumpeting all over everyday of their good news.

    This will once and for all shut the f**k up the hesitancy to vaccinate or forever hold your PEACE!

    Many parents will stand in line to register eagerly for their children to be vaxxed.

    Boosters after boosters will become today’s idolised POP culture.

    Very soon the vax rate will shoot up to 101% and this Sinkiekand will trance into exciting hysteria.

    We will be the only nation without vaccine death todate and the world will drool over our success.

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  • oxygen:

    THE WRITER @ Sjorne Shen is ABSOLUTELY right – all other contesting views are d*ckless wonder of idiotic lunacy.

    In law, there is property right to egg/sperm in the beginning of human life and in mortality ending, the same right extends to even a dead corpse of protection against unlawful intrusion and interference.

    If human are without property rights of freedom to choose what invades his body – saved of disease or animal attacks – his/her life is even in worst debasement than an animal. Just ask animal rights protection lobby.

    All other concessions made to community otherwise is CONCESSION to public consciousness and civic belonging.

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  • illiterate pap voters:

    PAP divide SG:
    @illiterate PAP voters.

    On community games and about community places.

    Vax and unvaxx tax payers paid taxes funding them. Why create rules to discriminate unvax tax payers by excluding them to play and visit community places.

    By paying their fair share of taxes, and contributing to SG – who’s to set up, segregate discriminating discriminations, esp when community and community places are not designed for any discriminations in mind.

    Bro, you are correct. Both vaxxed and unvaxxed pay taxes and should have equal right under the rule of law.

    However, the ones setting the rule are pap. pap has set the community rule, no vax no play.

    If anyone is unhappy with the pap rule, for sure can try to fight it in the courts. hahaha. Unless one is dumb, there is zero chance for this particular pap rule to be overturned since the FUNDAMENTAL tenet of law is that it exists to regulate behavior in a community of more than one.

    What to do then?

    If covid exists beyond 2024, by mere simple intelligence, the only way to remove the pap rule is to vote out pap, insisting that any new government to be voted into power remove the pap rule.

    Until then, lan lan lah. No vax no play stays.

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  • illiterate pap voters:

    Singaporeans R Free Riders: Good rebuttal…clap..clap..clap

    A simple illustration would be No Dogs Allowed sign outside a restaurant.

    In this instance, an individual rights to bring his beloved puppy would cease if he or she wants to eat in that restaurant.

    You are not correct with your example.

    Owner of restaurant can say No Dogs are Allowed but since owner is an operator in the community, the community rule still runs.

    If the community rule says no such thing as No Dogs are Allowed, then the owner of restaurant can either close the restaurant or be ready to be sued in court or face action by the government of the day which is pap in the current case UNLESS pap rule says owners of restaurants have the right to refuse custom based on owners’ whim and fancy but in all legal logic it ain’t going to pass muster.

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  • xoxo:

    Truth be told that *ALIEN$* living n making money in $ingapore have more rights than singaporeans?
    The gahmen even can raid $100Billion from sgs’ hardearned reserves to SAVE FTs jobs after robbing those jobs from sgs to dish out to these Alien$.

    While doing this,lee ah long came out to assure former sg-PMEs that their NEW-FOUND PROFESSION as Foodpandas n grabbers would be protected by the govt???

    Your body,your choice?
    Even your CPF IS NOT YOUR MONEY.

    If you want to keep your jobs,GET VACCINATED.
    But if you get vaccinated n suffer death or injuries,its your choice,NOT *
    OURS*?

    FARK THE DAFT GAHMEN N THOSE WHO ALLOW OUR SGS’ RESERVES TO BE RAIDED N SQUANDERED!!!

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  • xoxo:

    G$T increasing in 2022 as *promi$ed*!
    Some balls-licking economists ,interviewed on CNA,say good as GST more broad-based rather than aimed at certain segments ,bla,bla,bla,the *seng song* continued.

    So,raided $100 BILLION with a claimed GRANT PER CAPITA OF $23.5K but many well-deserving RESERVES-building citizens got ONLY $600,a short-change of $22.9K???!

    When raiding sgs’ reserves n dishing out much more to well-paid sgs n even NON-SG PMEs ,NO NEED TO BE *BROAD BASE*?

    I say RAISING GST IS UNFAIR.
    THE LEE HL GOVT SHUD JUST RAISE INCOME TAX!

    MANY COMPANIES WHICH GOT HEFTY SUMS OF GOVT GRANT$ FROM THE RAIDED $100 BILLION even MAKE MORE PROFITS.COMPANIES LIKE DBS BANK which make higher profits shud return the grants to the STATE instead so that LEE AH LONG NEED NOT TAKE THE EASY WAY OUT OF INCREASING GST,ya?

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  • Harder Truths:

    Omicron (Omni-koyak)is Hyped Up Cold? Dramatic Overreaction Designed to Create More Fear

    https://hannenabintuherland.com/usa/omicron-is-hyped-up-cold-dramatic-overreaction-designed-to-create-more-fear/

    In Tiny Red Dot the Regime declared that Omni-koyak is the reason the unvaxxed are banned from the workplace. Might as well bar the people who don;t take flu vaccine from the workplace, because its the same stupid thing.

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  • When the new Covid vaccine policy comes into effect, expect a large section of the population to be reduced to the status of un-vaccinated. Currently, only 36% of the population has received booster shots. Are cult members beginning to see the light and resisting or the queue is too long?

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  • BK:

    Thank u @ Sjorne Shen. Yes, the moral dilemma of collectivism vs individualism is broadly the argument that Utilitarianism makes.

    “The doctrine that an action is right in so far as it promotes happiness, and that the greatest happiness of the greatest number should be the guiding principle of conduct.”

    Dilemma:

    If a doctor can save five people from death by killing one healthy person and using that person’s organs for life-saving transplants, then act utilitarianism implies that the doctor should kill the one person to save five.

    In such societies, the trust deficit will be
    disastrous.

    Any collectivism must provide rules to guard against the violation of an individual. The morality lies in the preservation of his freedom. Collectivism then is an aggregate of rules to let individuals act the most free. Otherwise, collectivism implodes as individuals rebel due to a lacked of trust.

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  • Fire:

    61 are so cheap .

    https://sg.news.yahoo.com/non-vtl-travellers-singapore-no-need-covid-test-125050033.html

    TRE Tech:
    When the new Covid vaccine policy comes into effect, expect a large section of the population to be reduced to the status of un-vaccinated. Currently, only 36% of the population has received booster shots. Are cult members beginning to see the light and resisting or the queue is too long?

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  • @Fire

    Rejoining your link provided, is it fair to say that ALMOST ALL of them are vaccinated?

    MOH confirmed 311 new COVID cases on Thursday, of whom 193 were in the community, 114 were imported and four were migrant workers living in dormitories. One person also died from the infection.

    As of Thursday, 279 COVID cases were hospitalised, of whom 45 required oxygen supplementation. A total of 20 COVID patients were in the intensive care unit, of whom four were under close monitoring and 16 were critically ill.

    Since the rate of vaccination in Sinkieland is over 90%?

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  • Calvin, the old turtle:

    Now No#1 search for Singapore is “how safe is the vaccine for 5-11 year olds” Now parents gooogling like mad, might file more “false claims” by OYK or MTF. The T-team dare not even fart now like the fireworks tonite “no sound” and “no people” watch. lol

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  • Healthcare in the drain?:

    According to latest data:

    ICU (Close Monitoring):4
    ICU (Critically Ill): 16
    ICU Utilisation Rate: 46.2%

    Is it correct then to say that all the hospitals in Singapore has ONLY 43 ICU places?

    43 ICU places for 6 million population??

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_hospital_beds
    “Base capacity for lower-income countries is approximately 0.1 ICU beds per 100,000 citizens.”

    Singapore’s ICU capacity is worse than lower-income countries. Japan has 13.5 ICU beds per 100,000 inhabitants. If we had Japan’s standard, we would have 1000 ICU beds. Japan’s standard is only about average.

    The ICU crisis is not due to covid. It is due to healthcare planning over the years and decades. WTF is happening to our country?

    TRE Tech:
    @Fire

    Rejoining your link provided, is it fair to say that ALMOST ALL of them are vaccinated?

    Since the rate of vaccination in Sinkieland is over 90%?

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  • Biden's Flatuous Blurps:

    BK: “The doctrine that an action is right in so far as it promotes happiness, and that the greatest happiness of the greatest number should be the guiding principle of conduct.”

    Dilemma:

    If a doctor can save five people from death by killing one healthy person and using that person’s organs for life-saving transplants, then act utilitarianism implies that the doctor should kill the one person to save five.

    In such societies, the trust deficit will be
    disastrous.

    Any collectivism must provide rules to guard against the violation of an individual. The morality lies in the preservation of his freedom. Collectivism then is an aggregate of rules to let individuals act the most free. Otherwise, collectivism implodes as individuals rebel due to a lacked of trust.

    If I am not wrong, you’re talking about altruism which assumes actions for the good, without consideration of the effect on the self. No such action is possible, because all our understanding, incentives, and perceptions are based in the self. Even if I run into a burning building to rescue you, this action comes back to my perception of the situation and my understanding of it’s implications, and the weight I assign to the value of your life against the risk I am going to take. Every person looks out his/her own window, and all actions and thoughts are centered there.

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  • Biden's Flatuous Blurps:

    Cont’d

    unless one is willing to sacrifice for one that is of great value to him/her. That’s called love. Another topic to discuss :)

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  • BK:

    Exactly. Altruism cannot be other directed. At the collective level it leads to suppression. Happy New Year bro!

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  • oxygen:

    @ BK

    BRILLIANT PERSPECTIVE, thank you for sharing.

    BK: Thank u @ Sjorne Shen. Yes, the moral dilemma of collectivism vs individualism is broadly the argument that Utilitarianism makes.

    “The doctrine that an action is right in so far as it promotes happiness, and that the greatest happiness of the greatest number should be the guiding principle of conduct.”

    Dilemma:

    If a doctor can save five people from death by killing one healthy person and using that person’s organs for life-saving transplants, then act utilitarianism implies that the doctor should kill the one person to save five.

    In such societies, the trust deficit will be
    disastrous.

    Any collectivism must provide rules to guard against the violation of an individual. The morality lies in the preservation of his freedom. Collectivism then is an aggregate of rules to let individuals act the most free. Otherwise, collectivism implodes as individuals rebel due to a lacked of trust.

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  • Sad situation:

    Cannot force people to lose their livelihood.
    I am for vaccination but I am against killing people livelihood on such ground.Some restrictions on unvaccinated is OK.
    Give unvaccinated people a break..they are responsible for their informed decision.

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  • Fire:

    I DON’T SUPPORT sg retailers .

    Online shopping from overseas , one level gst
    It is still CHEAP .

    Sad situation:
    Cannot force people to lose their livelihood.
    I am for vaccination but I am against killing people livelihood on such ground.Some restrictions on unvaccinated is OK.
    Give unvaccinated people a break..they are responsible for their informed decision.

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  • xoxo:

    Many times,i observe seemingly self-righteous ,self-professed altruistic people behave differently *behind the facade* .
    The thing is not to e hypocrites.
    Many gossip at the expense of truly good people?

    Freedom must come with respect n consideration for others; this,i note is mostly lacking in ang mohs n holier-than-thou kind.

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  • Biden's Flatuous Blurps:

    BK:
    Exactly. Altruism cannot be other directed. At the collective level it leads to suppression. Happy New Year bro!

    Happy New Year! (With some reservations on economic outlooks: recession, unemployment (apprised by Larry Summers), inflation, interest rates, GST…. Oxygen got works to do! :)

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  • oxygen:

    @ Biden’s Flatuous Blurps:

    YES, Happy New Year to U, @BK and all in TRE including readers.

    Biden's Flatuous Blurps: Happy New Year! (With some reservations on economic outlooks: recession, unemployment (apprised by Larry Summers), inflation, interest rates, GST…. Oxygen got works to do! :)

    Retail gold bugs are wildly optimistic. IT SCARES the living daylight out of me!

    Retail Investor see gold hitting record highs above $2,000 in 2022.

    https://www.kitco.com/news/2021-12-31/Retail-Investor-see-gold-hitting-record-highs-above-2-000-in-2022.html

    Why?

    Very simple. The contents of the above weblink includes these observations last year of retail optimism.

    Kitco.com :In last year’s outlook price survey, 84% of retail investors expected gold prices to rise above $2,000……the precious metal looks to end 2021 with nearly a 4% loss…..gold prices last traded at $1,827.95 an ounce; however, the market started the year at $1,898 an ounce

    RETAIL gold bugs (investors) almost always bet on the wrong side in the “casino” table. Gold stocks globally are trading near their 52-week lows.

    Like you said CORRECTLY I must admit, me think I am gonna sweat it out to stay financially alive by end of 2022…UNLESS OF COURSE I STAYS OUT from adding new positions that I have already incorrectly taken in 2021.

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    oxygen:
    @ Biden’s Flatuous Blurps:

    YES, Happy New Year to U, @BK and all in TRE including readers.

    Retail gold bugs are wildly optimistic. IT SCARES the living daylight out of me!

    Retail Investor see gold hitting record highs above $2,000 in 2022.

    Why?

    Very simple. The contents of the above weblink includes these observations last year of retail optimism.

    RETAIL gold bugs (investors) almost always bet on the wrong side in the “casino” table. Gold stocks globally are trading near their 52-week lows.

    Like you said CORRECTLY I must admit, me think I am gonna sweat it out to stay financially alive by end of 2022…UNLESS OF COURSE I STAYS OUT from adding new positions that I have already incorrectly taken in 2021.

    Thanks for sharing. Money is indeed “ephemeral,” unless the issuing government ties its currency to a commodity like gold. Agree. What’s scary is the evolving lack of trust or consensus about what Fiat money is.

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  • xoxo:

    Gold price will be net up in coming year,2022.
    Rising inflation etc.
    Fed n others raiding rates.
    $2000 will be breached,i think.

    Stocks to correct,then up again.
    My humble 2 cents.

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  • xoxo:

    Raising G$T IS MOST UNFAIR to jobless(including retirees,underemployed) sgs.
    When LHL raided $100 Billion of sgs’ reserves,many such jobless n senior sgs received ONLY $600 IN GRANT OUT OF THE $100 BILLION while non-sg FTs n well-paid sgs got huge sums.

    Remember,the distribution was not as *broad based* in terms of actual allocations.
    Noe,LHL wants to include peasant sgs who received only $600 in his G$T *CLAW BACK*?!

    THIS KIND OF FISCAL POLICY MAKES THE ALREADY POOR SGS POORER.
    LHL shud raise INCOME TAX INSTEAD FOR REASON OF EQUITY.

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  • illiterate pap voters:

    xoxo:
    Raising G$T IS MOST UNFAIR to jobless(including retirees,underemployed) sgs.
    When LHL raided $100 Billion of sgs’ reserves,many such jobless n senior sgs received ONLY $600 IN GRANT OUT OF THE $100 BILLION while non-sg FTs n well-paid sgs got huge sums.

    Remember,the distribution was not as *broad based* in terms of actual allocations.
    Noe,LHL wants to include peasant sgs who received only $600 in his G$T *CLAW BACK*?!

    THIS KIND OF FISCAL POLICY MAKES THE ALREADY POOR SGS POORER.
    LHL shud raise INCOME TAX INSTEAD FOR REASON OF EQUITY.

    Agree, bro. Well said. GST hits the poor hardest.

    Everyone knew before GE2020 that pap is going to raise GST from 7% to 9% after the GE.

    It was a very good event for folks to show pap why GST is wrong, and raising it from 7% to 9% is more wrong.

    Yet, folks in East Coast did not deliver.

    What does that say?

    hahaha.

    61% is telling pap, go ahead and raise GST from 7% to 9%.

    We don’t agree. But too bad. In a land run on basis of majority wins, all we can do is to keep telling our neighbors friends relatives colleagues spouses THAT pap must be voted out.

    WHY pap must be voted out?

    hahaha.

    For a group of useless thieves who pay each other S$m pa for doing little of significance, what is 9% GST? NOTHING. Not even a dent on their bank account.

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  • Calvin, the chiko turtle:

    TRE Tech:
    @Fire

    Rejoining your link provided, is it fair to say that ALMOST ALL of them are vaccinated?

    Since the rate of vaccination in Sinkieland is over 90%?

    Korea now vaccination required for access to multiuse facilities will be valid only for six months after the primary series or booster doses starting Monday. That means, those 90% in sinkieland cannot go malls after 6 months? Poke every 6 months? Don’t turn zombie also turn moron.

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  • Fire:

    With the brilliant ever evolving Covid .

    The investment benefits far outweigh the Risks .

    https://www.biopharma-reporter.com/Article/2020/06/30/BioNTech-receives-investment-from-Temasek?utm_source=copyright&utm_medium=OnSite&utm_campaign=copyright

    https://www.biopharma-reporter.com/Article/2020/06/30/BioNTech-receives-investment-from-Temasek?utm_source=copyright&utm_medium=OnSite&utm_campaign=copyright

    Calvin, the chiko turtle: Korea now vaccination required for access to multiuse facilities will be valid only for six months after the primary series or booster doses starting Monday. That means, those 90% in sinkieland cannot go malls after 6 months? Poke every 6 months? Don’t turn zombie also turn moron.

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  • Vex By Unvaxxed:

    My patience with unvaccinated people has run out. This pandemic which won’t quit is raging because it continues to find hosts and continues to mutate. It’s enough already. Unvaccinated people should be banned from all venues, including mrts, parks and any other places where the virus could spread. We just have to get back to a normal life one of these days. Among anti vaxxers that I know, exclusion from activities that mandate vaccines seems to work. Some wanted to go to soccer games like the Suzuki Cup, some wanted to attend a concert , and another wanted to be able to go out to eat. Airlines need to require proof of vaccination for domestic and international flights. All entertainment in public venues should require proof of vaccination. Vaccine passports seem to me to be the most effective incentive. I am sure it sounds easier than it is to implement, but I wish there were more businesses brave enough to go in that direction.

    Tech: A load of crap and BULLSHIT.

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  • Hardest Truths:

    I wish the courts would rebuff the efforts of the HTD and suit against OYK to obstruct our vaccine mandates, all rubbish. Medical and public health professionals have been clear and consistent — vaccination is the only path forward. Mandate or not do the right thing and get the vaccine.

    My children are fully vaccinated and I understands how the vaccine works. I received my booster in October, and I will try to get another one in April and every six months thereafter until this pandemic is suppressed to a level much less intense than it is now. For me, requiring a booster is no more controversial than requiring a umbrella when it gets raining outside.

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  • xoxo:

    @iliterate pap voters

    Thank you for observing the same.
    61 pct,many educated,still *California Dreaming*.
    GE after GE,they never learn.

    Cheerio bro n Have a blessed New Year.

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  • xoxo:

    Imagine,a MEDICAL BILL OF $50K from surgery and hospitisation means additional payment of $4500 with G$T at 9 pct!

    A sack of rice bought by peasant-sgs,jobless and seniors will mean well-to-do sgs paying same GST as poor.
    A box of medicine ,a bento lunch,and whatnots; even a TV set.

    I say G$T INCREASE IS UNFAIR ESPECIALLY WHEN THE PAP JUST RAIDED $100 BILLION of Sgs’ Reserves with MANY NEEDY,DESERVING ORDINARY SGS receiving ONLY $600 WHILST well-paid sgs n NON-sg PMEs getting MUCH MORE!

    PLS STOP RAPING THE HONEST POOR SGS ,GO MOLE$t the RICH sgs n FTs lah!

    LHL ,you are so $inful.

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  • Jennene:

    If people don’t know what COVID is after two years of listening to Dr. Fauci and other health professionals, they have been living under a rock. We have vaccines and booster shots you should take advantage of. There are too many among us whose concept of “individual freedom” includes taking deliberate action enabling them to catch and spread a potentially fatal pathogen.

    To those who feel confused, I have an answer. Get vaccinated!!!

    Tech: Aren’t you aware that Fauzi is a liar, a crook and a con?

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  • the scurrying IB rats appear:

    @Jennene, Hardest Truths, Vex By Unvaxxed

    Oof! Looks like damage control is underway from the big brother!

    Propaganda! Ignorance! Mistaking emotions for rationality! Onwards! No matter how unsubstantiated it may be!

    @Jennene

    Quoting Fauci.. HAHAHAHAHA.. Thx for the laugh!

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  • oxygen:

    @ Vex BY Unvaxxed

    RUN OUT OF PATIENCE? Have some respect for others’ need for social, physical and healthy space, can’t you?

    Vex By Unvaxxed: My patience with unvaccinated people has run out.

    Instead of fascism and political thuggery with this advocacy

    Vex By Unvaxxed: Unvaccinated people should be banned from all venues, including mrts, parks and any other places where the virus could spread.

    The unvaccinated is only a tiny minority whose circumstances – unknown to you – maybe compelling and different. LEAVE THEM THE SAME FREEDOM OF CHOICE AS THEY HAVE GRACIOUSLY AFFORDED/ACCORDED to you!

    The biggest risk of pandemic spread – in your fantazised deluded world imagination – is NOT the local unvaccinated BUT FOREIGNERS WHEN THAT BORDER is open or opening soon.

    How are you going to shut that transmission if we want to seduce economic and social intercourse with contaminated foreigners lightly screened at Changi Airport and they might hold impromptu celebration at Clarke Quay – similar to the recent NY partying?

    They coalesce by mobile phone! You want or plan to confiscate incoming foreigner’s mobile phone until they depart our shores?

    @ TRE Tech is absolutely right to shut your yobbo shouting here with this retort.

    Tech: A load of crap and BULLSHIT.

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  • oxygen:

    @ Jennene

    I WORRY ABOUT the chance probability that you are still living in the darkness of sewerage pipe.

    Jennene: If people don’t know what COVID is after two years of listening to Dr. Fauci and other health professionals, they have been living under a rock.

    Dr Fauci changed his approval (from refusal) grant of “emergency use only” of mRNA vaccine a little slower than you changed your underwear after you unload your “extra” sitting on the Empress throne.

    As for other “health professionals” I am not sure who these are in your mind, but I am concern that these cockroaches (presumably dwelling in the same system of sewer pipe as you), they are mostly parasitic of existence engaged in BIG FAT SPECULATION touting themselves as part “panel of experts” too shy to expose their identity and assessed stature including their own peers shaming them.

    As for the IDENTIFIED health profession, including Tedross from WHO, this is what he has to say and said publicly most recently.

    WHO says vaccine booster programs will prolong Covid crisis: ‘No country can boost its way out of the pandemic’

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/22/who-says-covid-vaccine-booster-programs-will-prolong-pandemic.html

    as for CDC, this is a humiliating undressing before US Congressional hearing.

    Please view this U-tube presentation on 4 November 2021.

    ‘What Percent Of CDC Employees Are Vaccinated?’: Cassidy Grills Walensky At Senate Hearing

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QabAtYBnqro

    Think about this – what percentage of CDC and FDA employees REFUSED VACCINATION which their employer/s “approved” for mass public inoculation roll out?

    I have got this gentle advice to you – throw away your rose-tinted glasses and stare at reality of a world polluted by fake health professional and POLITICAL COWS organised misinformation and deception.

    My life lives in the “casino” (stock market) gambling and my survival depends of reading “facts” and ditching the fiction in day-to-day decision-making. Mistakes are very costly – one wrong step needs maybe 5 or more correct step to recover the losses.

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  • oxygen:

    @ Hardest Truths

    YOU RECEIVED YOUR BOOSTER (in Sinkieland??) in October (2021, presumably)??

    Hardest Truths: My children are fully vaccinated and I understands how the vaccine works. I received my booster in October,

    Did you got the snake oil concoction instead?

    I don’t think “booster” jabs were available anywhere on earth at that time – certainly not in any vaccine manufacturing plant I know of.

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  • Against Machiavelliani$$$m:

    “The nature of psychological compulsion is such that those who act under constraint remain under the impression that they are acting on their own initiative. The victim of mind-manipulation does not know that he is a victim. To him the walls of his prison are invisible, and he believes himself to be free. That he is not free is apparent only to other people. His servitude is strictly objective.”

    - Aldous Huxley, “Brave New World”

    Almost any sect or cult will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so. And the Pappies have surpassed everyone with Ahgong Leegalism.

    “Science is organized knowledge. Wisdom is organized life. Morality is not the doctrine of how we may make ourselves happy, but how we may make ourselves Worthy of happiness.”

    - Immanuel Kant (German Enlightenment philosopher which the Nazis had no use for)

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  • oxygen:

    BELIEVE NO ONE IN THE SOCIAL MEDIA, DR. FAUCI, DR. ROCHELLE WALENSKY, FD, CDC, not even WHO on their public pronouncement. The global vaccine roll-out is hijacked by hidden political agenda.

    Behind the curtain of theatrics, threats, bluffs and lies (TTBL), investors in Big Pharma tells the informed (not perfect) truth in pricing of the shares of Big Pharma whether their products (vaccines) is useful of much touted but unsubstantiated benefits and hidden concealed lies of actual risks those vaccines traverse through the body of the vaccinated.

    HERE IS THE LATEST VERDICT OF WHAT INVESTORS THOUGHT OF THE EFFECTIVENESS, USEFULNESS AND THUS THE PROFIT POTENTIAL FORWARD and thus their share price valuations.

    Here you go!

    Vaccine Stocks Tumble Even Though Covid-19 Cases Are Soaring

    https://www.marketwatch.com/articles/vaccine-stocks-fall-covid-19-cases-soar-51641308877?mod=mw_latestnews

    Right from the mouth of Barron’s investment publishing.

    Investors think on Wall Street obviously think the vaccines are useless, won’t be in demand, and marginal of profit potential despite massive sovereign govts buying rush to “booster” jabs its population.

    MOSTLY FUTILE USELESS EFFORT and showbiz of TTBL from political cows who are stupid and wrong right from the beginning.

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  • Vex By Unvaxxed:

    Seat belts are mandatory and penalties are imposed if not worn. There is NO individual choice. The same principle should apply to vaccinations. One cannot risk others’ health based upon some crazy rationale.

    Tech: How does one not being vaccinated risk other’s health? what is the purpose of vaccination? care to explain?

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  • oxygen:

    @ Vex by Unvaxxed

    WHY DON’T PAPpypolitics also make condom use compulsory for those on casual flings including working girls, for without this compulsion the recalcitrant “risk others’ health” based upon YOUR CRAZY RATIONALE of legal mandate.

    Vex By Unvaxxed: Seat belts are mandatory and penalties are imposed if not worn. There is NO individual choice. The same principle should apply to vaccinations. One cannot risk others’ health based upon some crazy rationale.

    It is your CATERPILLAR MENTALITY of blindly following the dumbest leadership of political cows that is creating even more problem.

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  • oxygen:

    @ Vex By Unvaxxed

    ANOTHER NEW COMPLEX MUTANT VARIANT has emerged/detected in France and is under watch.

    Can vaccination keeps up with the pace of mutant evolution WITHOUT KILLING THE HOSTS (human) species first?

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  • tsk tsk:

    @Vex By Unvaxxed

    Really? The covid vaccine fiasco vs a seat belt utility? You high is it? Or you so desperate to enact your beliefs that you just anyhow hantam at this stage?

    Also, for you to just label everything that was brought up against the covid spectacle as “crazy rationale” already shows you are not interested in understanding the other side (or the actual situation).

    Perhaps the complexity is too much for you to handle? Perfectly understandable, and the easy way of “jab” and govt propaganda is enticing even. But don’t mistake your weakness/preference as truth.

    You should start unpacking all those beliefs and understanding on the vaccine debacle that you believe to be the true and reassessed them. You can start by re-reading your postings in this page as I can already see so many nonsensical info in it. If not, then you can just stay in your wonderland la. Just dun expect any meaningful discussion here then.

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  • Latest News On HTD:

    Latest news: MTF MOH makes police report against Healing the Divide group over plans to ‘disrupt operations’ at COVID-19 paediatric vaccination centres 21 minutes ago. MOH makes police report against Healing the Divide group over plans to ‘disrupt operations’ at COVID-19 paediatric vaccination centres

    21 minutes ago
    https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/covid-19-moh-healing-divide-iris-koh-harassment-police-report-2416481

    One brave lady.

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  • OYK talks male cow droppings:

    US “UNAWARE” of Singapore’s Covid data???
    Is this how they ‘bastardize’ the English language to smoke ‘sheeples’ in Singapore???? Cannot swim say lampars heavy…….

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  • Fire:

    I not Elucated but I know what is :-

    Past Tense
    Present Tense
    Future Tense

    https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/moe-protest-police-warnings-hormone-therapy-2347931

    https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/gilbert-goh-charged-holding-placard-ica-2378656

    https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/jolovan-wham-charged-illegal-protests-state-courts-toa-payoh-562631

    Latest News On HTD:
    Latest news: MTF MOH makes police report against Healing the Divide group over plans to ‘disrupt operations’ at COVID-19 paediatric vaccination centres 21 minutes ago. MOH makes police report against Healing the Divide group over plans to ‘disrupt operations’ at COVID-19 paediatric vaccination centres

    21 minutes ago
    https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/covid-19-moh-healing-divide-iris-koh-harassment-police-report-2416481

    One brave lady.

    Tech: I wouldn’t call that brave, it’s plain stupid. It simply brings ill repute to the many fine and good people at HTD, making them appear as hooligans. I wonder what these members see in this Iris who is herself facing tons of criminal cases against her and her hubby? I am sure there are others more responsible and educated in HTD that can take over from her and start a more responsible and respectable group.

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  • Calvin, lau tiko turtle:

    Lau Goh called Sinkies; ‘kiasu’, ‘kiasi’ and ‘kiabor’ (scared wife).
    Sg men either got their balls *shrink* during NS or by the mRNA vaccine. None dare to even fart. So how? She at least dare to show some *action* but I don’t mean illegally.

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  • oxygen:

    @ Biden Flatuous Blurps

    MATE, YOU SHOUTED OUT correctly 5 DAYS ago.

    Biden's Flatuous Blurps: Oxygen got works to do!

    Saw what happened in NY last night? The market risks aversion flee is across the board. Bond and equities tumbled after firm opening. US dollar somersault, and STUNNINGLY GOLD PRICE and north American gold stocks did the same. Remember this, gold, like commodities are priced in USD, and they tend to move in opposite direction.

    Go google the website – Bigcharts.com – and key in “gld”, you will see SPDR Gold share ETF got a caning.

    OZZIE gold stocks got the same treatment today. There is NO SAFE HAVEN.

    Gold bugs, including me of course, are sweating now.

    @ Xoxo and market optimists better watch-out.

    xoxo: Gold price will be net up in coming year,2022.
    Rising inflation etc.
    Fed n others raiding rates.
    $2000 will be breached,i think.

    Stocks to correct,then up again.
    My humble 2 cents.

    The Covid-19 damaging impact on inflation, interest rate, global economy is on-going – THE VACCINES IN USE ARE ALL USELESS!

    Why add risks, misery and suffering of vaccine impact of piling inoculation of no infection blockage and doubtful of beneficial outcome balance to statistics euphemistically described in statistical warp and propaganda as “mortality” due, inexplicably, to “multiple comorbidities” after apparently successfully hiding away for nearly 2 years now for the unvaccinated?

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  • Marker:

    Body will have naturally low antibodies present when is feeling ok(not invaded by virus).whether is 270 days or 1000days!

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  • oxygen:

    @ Biden Flatuous Blurps

    IF YOU CARE TO CHECK it up on Bigcharts.com, only Pfizer (PFE) struggling to hold of its 1-yr share price peak, the other Big pharma Moderna (MRNA) and BioNtech (BNTX) have long fell deeply on the other side of the share price cliff.

    THAT IS HOW FINANCIAL MARKET RATES THEM of safe/beneficial no risk mNRA innoculation no-vaccine!

    If the mRNA experimental concoction is universally useful/beneficial and no risks as touted, BNTX/MRNA would prosper alongside PFE, wouldn’t it be?

    PFE have long been the preferred baby of CDC and FDA “approval” process.

    CDC now urges everyone 12 and older to get Pfizers COVID booster

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/cdc-advisers-support-covid-boosters-for-12-to-15-year-olds-01641421616?mod=mw_latestnews

    And you must ask how this happens?

    Please view this U-tube presentation on 4 November 2021.

    ‘What Percent Of CDC Employees Are Vaccinated?’: Cassidy Grills Walensky At Senate Hearing

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QabAtYBnqro

    Think about this – what percentage of CDC and FDA employees REFUSED VACCINATION which their employer/s “approved” for mass public inoculation roll out?

    If it is now “SAFE” (presumably) of booster jabs for 12-15 year olds (AND UNSPOKEN SILENT THAT IT IS NOT SUITABLE/UNSAFE FOR THOSE AGE 5 TO 11 presumably), how come CDC/FDA don’t make it mandatory for their own WORKING employees presumably older than 15 years of age?

    Rochell Walensky and Anthony Fauci GOT THE ANSWERS!!

    Waiting patiently to hear from them!!

    UNTIL THEN, IT MUST BE OUR BODY, OUR CHOICE!

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  • OYK talk male cow droppings:

    “We are now regarded by the Americans as a country which does not provide data on the virus situation. We are basically an opaque country, where citizens are kept in the dark about the true virus situation.” -Lim Tean

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  • Cotton Sheep Inc.:

    Sheep take part in Covid-19 vaccination campaign.

    A German man has come up with a unique idea for a campaign to encourage people to get vaccinated against Covid-19.

    https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2022/01/05/sheep-syringe-covid19-vaccination-germany-lon-orig-tp.cnn

    Response: This German is making a sarcastic statement by using sheep. Singapore sheep may not get it.

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  • Biden's Flatuous Blurps:

    oxygen: Saw what happened in NY last night? The market risks aversion flee is across the board. Bond and equities tumbled after firm opening. US dollar somersault, and STUNNINGLY GOLD PRICE and north American gold stocks did the same.

    Thank you.
    All true, multi-factorial problems are indeed difficult. The pandemic being primary of course and this time, its different. Larry Summers is right on this issue of the likelihood of a need for a hard landing, let me recommend these within-the-last-few-days statements of the Summers view. That said, history doesn’t have much to offer when we’re experiencing never-seen-before forces acting on a global economy.

    Summers’ Washington Post Opinion:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/12/16/lawrence-summers-fed-inflation/

    https://www.pbs.org/wnet/amanpour-and-company/video/fmr-treasury-sec-lawrence-summers-recession-coming-kenxc3/

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  • Fire:

    What a shit states time

    When some guy mentions about myocarditis .

    A stark contrast .

    Israel taking 4th Jab .

    Will see .

    https://www.channelnewsasia.com/world/israel-reports-very-few-myocarditis-cases-among-12-15-year-olds-after-covid-19-vaccine-booster-2417256

    Fire:
    States time execution is fast .

    US Covid death 823K and more .

    https://www.channelnewsasia.com/world/pfizers-covid-19-shot-causes-mostly-mild-side-effects-young-kids-us-cdc-2408421

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