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Ong Ye Kung sued by 9-year-old boy for false statements and harassment

A 9-year-old boy has taken Health Minister Ong Ye Kung to court, for allegedly making false statements and harassment.

The boy (plaintiff), who cannot be named due to a court gag order, is represented by his mother in the States Court.

The lawsuit arises from a post (screenshot below) which Mr Ong made on 16th December 2021 on his personal Facebook page, with regards to the vaccination of children.

The plaintiff took issues with the above 2 highlighted statements made by Mr Ong, as they are, in his opinion false and not a statement of fact.

During the first Court hearing, there was a question on whether Mr Ong Ye Kung can be taken to Court for he has immunity as a Member of Parliament and Minister of Health.

The plaintiff argued that Mr Ong had made the statements on his own personal Facebook page, which is not an official communication channel of the government, and as such he has made all the allegedly false statements as a normal citizen, therefore, he can be brought to court and immunity, in this case, does not apply.

The Court has agreed to that view and has instructed the plaintiff to serve notice on Mr Ong.

The team at Healing The Divide has put together a very informative and detailed info-media on the plaintiff’s arguments as to why the statements by Mr Ong are false and why he and his parents feel harassed.

The info-media is embeded below.




 
On a related note, we would like to inform our readers that the Class Action Suit against the MTF, MOM and MOH has been scheduled on 12 January 2022 at 9.30 am for a pre-trial conference.

 

 

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82 Responses to “Ong Ye Kung sued by 9-year-old boy for false statements and harassment”

  • Harder Truths:

    So it begins … sometimes fools are caught with their pants down by a nine-year-old.

    Is he going to jail like Amos?

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  • Harder Truths:

    Vultures- the Bird of Death, have now come to $G.

    No doubt to feast on the carcass of the vaxxed dead and dying.

    https://sg.yahoo.com/style/wildlife-around-singapore-the-birds-and-the-bees-024048873.html

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  • Calvin, the old turtle:

    Imagine being cross-examined by the nine-year-old. “uncle, you bluff me, you lie,lie,lie…..” Imagine he has to prove his credibility to a nine-years old: “boy, boy, uncle don’t bluff one, come,come have sweets, let’s go corner play marbles” lol

    Tech: Ong or his lawyers will have a very hard time trying to defend the case if really the boy go pro se. How to discredit and slam a boy without being called a bully? lol

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  • Hardessssssst truth:

    Ha, job of a 9-yr-0?

    So sooooooooo naive!

    Harder Truths:
    So it begins … sometimes fools are caught with their pants down by a nine-year-old.

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  • Calvin, the tiko turtle:

    Hey, I think that’s a good idea. Even if lost the case there will be a gag order to protect the child which in turn also protect the parents. More parents should do that. No need to put adults’ names just put children suing on parent’s behalf because lost jobs, no money to support them.

    Tech: Parents also protected under the gag order as mentioning them will expose the children. So you mean the parents get the child to sue, trial by proxy?

    Come to think of it, if 365 children line up to sue Ong, then he will be attending court almost on a daily basis and won’t have time to cook bull of a shit policies liao, not a bad idea hor. lol

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  • Sack Ong, Make Boy Minister:

    Ong got no brains trapped by 9 year old boy. Let boy take over his job. Good Idea ?

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  • 苍生有难!:

    真的是“唯恐天下不乱”的行为?

    损人又不利己,天下最丑陋的嘴脸?

    如果让这类人当道,苍生有难!

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  • Fire:

    Good idea .

    After all , it is decorated with cartoon
    superb hero .

    Sack Ong, Make Boy Minister:
    Ong got no brains trapped by 9 year old boy. Let boy take over his job. Good Idea ?

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  • Pause lah:

    Better to have a pause at this stage.
    Set up a bigger Committee of real experts to go through the data available and make wise decision on children vaccination.
    No need to rush to follow others.
    Maybe it is better for them to build natural immunity after all if the effect of Covid is mild on them.
    Parent should be the decision maker for their own child.They bear the consequence of their action for life.

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  • oxygen:

    THE SEQUENTIAL ORDER of testimony, IMHO, is crucial and maybe even decides the law outcome.

    If the defendant is given first opportunity to explain, illuminates his/her position stance, and the court “believes” and “accepts” that as his/her faithful opinion of conviction and belief of claim, IT IS EASY ENOUGH FOR THE SITTING JUDGE TO SUMMARILY DISMISS THE APPLICANT’S PETITION AS ALLEGEDLY “vexatious, without merit or even lacking in substance” WITHOUT THE APPLICANT PROTESTATION being heard FIRST or given the opportunity to be heard of the MUCH-DETAILED substance of his complaint brought to the court.

    I have compelling apprehension – if that above should eventuates – that the public mind will concluded (rightly or wrongly) that “procedural unfairness” have been applied against the law-untrained kid as the complainant.

    IT WILL BE VERY SAD INDEED. I hope that won’t happen.

    Kid tells in court proceedings “as a matter of factly or as it is/was” in testimony – unlike mature intelligent adults, and this is generally known and accepted in courtroom hearing. For this reason, it is desirable, maybe incumbent upon the law to hear out the kid’s complaint, and then the defendant to substantiate his/her position in refutation.

    WHATEVER THE JUDGMENT SO DERIVED later, it would be interesting to read the court’s reasoning of its determination.

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  • Stupid Singaporeans:

    Are you surprised they have decided to stop PCR test to all non-VTL visitors? Is this to make them look good in case OMG cases surge without the public knowing how many are imported?

    PAP should be sacked immediately.

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  • No wonder:

    Very good stand. Nobody can figure out which side you are on.

    苍生有难!:
    真的是“唯恐天下不乱”的行为?

    损人又不利己,天下最丑陋的嘴脸?

    如果让这类人当道,苍生有难!

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  • oxygen:

    WHAT IF THE “DUMB” KID (if given the first/front opportunity) tells the court this?

    CDC reports heart inflammation cases among young kids who got Pfizer COVID19 shot

    Fri, 17 December 2021, 5:11 am

    The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said on Thursday it had received reports of eight cases of myocarditis, a type of heart inflammation, in children aged 5-11 years who received Pfizer and BioNTech’s COVID-19 vaccine.

    https://sg.yahoo.com/news/cdc-reports-heart-inflammation-cases-211151170.html

    And repeat his allegation that he feels “harassed” of this untold risks but now confronted by this ongoing fear since 17 December 2021?

    And adding that his mother could not or cannot afford to buy him a “new brain” to replace the “damaged” one?

    HILARIOUS!

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  • NotMyProblem:

    That shows only the adults, especially 61%, “smart enough” to believe the emperor was wearing clothing. Only a kid can expose the naked emperor!!

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  • Pappies are corporate honchos:

    https://www.biopharma-reporter.com/Article/2020/06/30/BioNTech-receives-investment-from-Temasek

    BioNTech receives $250m investment amid vaccine development from Temasek.

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  • 苍生有难!:

    你真的是太水皮了!

    No wonder:
    Very good stand. Nobody can figure out which side you are on.

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  • OYKOYOK Advertising Gimmicks:

    Pappies are corporate honchos:
    https://www.biopharma-reporter.com/Article/2020/06/30/BioNTech-receives-investment-from-Temasek

    BioNTech receives $250m investment amid vaccine development from Temasek.

    OMG!
    No Wonder!

    Duzzit or duzznit sound like advertising for big pharmas?

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  • Trust only myself:

    Maybe there is still a slim hope that the unthinking Singaporeans can see through the liars and believe the comment by the 9 yo is also correct……

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  • Harder Truths:

    COVID Antiviral Pills Cause Life-Threatening Reactions When Used With Many Common Meds: FDA

    In the next phase of extermination, the Regime will demand citizens take these ‘antiviral’ pills instead of jabs. Big Pharma is using $G as a testing factory. So remember you die your business.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/covid-antiviral-pills-cause-life-threatening-reactions-when-used-many-common-meds-fda

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  • PM Lee talking cock:

    Straits Times: 2022 will be transition time as economy recovers; Budget will touch on GST: PM Lee

    “Transition” to what? More “transactional jobs for locals and good jobs for foreigners?

    GST offsets are “on-offs” while GST increase is continuing to the foreseeable future. Off-set are “loose change” / “table scraps” and only given to those who stay in over-priced, poor quality, depreciating to ZERO HDB flats.

    Why is GST increase necessary when self-funding stat boards (not included in Budget) like SLA, URA, JTC, CAAS, LTS, etc. make billions each year and are holding billions more. Budget is already in surplus so self-funding stat boards keep the surplus cash as “hidden government reserves”.

    Singapore can only judge if system is indeed “progressive and fair” if the government is open and transparent. It is not. Trust PAP is an oxymoron. It should be “trust but verify”. Verification requires openness and transparency. There are also needed for real accountability.

    “Let’s go Brandon”
    “Let’s go PAP”
    “Let’s go LKY”
    “Let’s go LHL”

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  • Billy ma:

    Pride comes before the fall.
    Always true all the times.

    These PAP dudes are so arrogant.

    But then will the court dares to punish them?
    Not so sure really but let wait & see.

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  • Those guys at HTD really 够绝的, push out a young boy to sue Ong. Now Ong fight win also die, lose also die.

    He fights the case himself or get Davinder regardless he will be seen as a BIG bully, 搞到里外不是人.

    If a few more below 12 come out to sue him, he can flush his face down the toilet liao. lol

    Must really give it to the gang at HTD, they sued SPH and won the case without the court even ruling that they won, by getting the so-called journalist to admit that what she wrote was NOT a statement of fact, i.e. false statement.

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    Music 唔錯. Copy from where ?

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  • Who's next?:

    PAPs and their mil$ paid cronies have become a big joke to citizens.

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  • Asd:

    I thinking why no pforma on this personal fb post is allowed ar

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  • Bernard Tan:

    Sue until his pants drop.

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  • oxygen:

    IMHO, ANYONE SERIOUSLY INTERESTED in discovering the safety or otherwise of vaccine should view/listen to this video presentation.

    https://rumble.com/embed/voaxg5/?pub=qdzr7

    You will find the presentation informing of rigorous scientific research – whether you agree or disagree with its contents.

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  • Calvin, the lau tiko turtle:

    TRE Tech:
    Those guys at HTD really 够绝的, push out a young boy to sue Ong. Now Ong fight win also die, lose also die.

    He fights the case himself or get Davinder regardless he will be seen as a BIG bully, 搞到里外不是人.

    If a few more below 12 come out to sue him, he can flush his face down the toilet liao. lol

    Must really give it to the gang at HTD, they sued SPH and won the case without the court even ruling that they won, by getting the so-called journalist to admit that what she wrote was NOT a statement of fact, i.e. false statement.

    Win/lose. Boh rasa lah! 沒有影響. He is just one ‘fall guy’. The ‘anointed’ one will soon make an entrance and viola, Your future PM!
    Anyway, I believe they’ll fight base on the premise that a minor is being exploited & groomed by adults. As for OYK, another way out is to try and play marbles with boy and lose. lol

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    叫一個豆記仔出來 ? 好 low blow!

    Learn from gms?

    唔洗得嘅.
    Not mature not independent. No academic background nor medical nor law knowledge.

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  • Very Serious:

    If this kid wins, it means what?

    It means the MTF handling of the pandemic is based on wrong understanding of covid-19 and its vaccines. Singaporeans have been screwed. MTF must resign.

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  • Smart Nation:

    Very Serious:
    If this kid wins, it means what?

    It means the MTF handling of the pandemic is based on wrong understanding of covid-19 and its vaccines. Singaporeans have been screwed. MTF must resign.

    If the kid wins, the public should call for the resignation of the Minister for spreading misinformation. It’s unlikely to happen unless you are living in another part of the planet. LOL!

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  • Commercials, Commercials:

    Some kind of commercial?
    Some kind of advertorial?
    Or simply infomercial?
    Who benefit the most?

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  • Hm… the entire MTF have blood on their hands and they are “immune”?

    With new data emerging every day, it is clear that it was their policies and obsession for vaccination that injured and ‘murdered’ thousands of people, is it not?

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  • theforgottongeneration:

    LOL, if this is not malu, then don’t know what is for the pappies. PM-calibre minister sued by 9-YO??? Maybe Ong can crowdfund his case, see how many of the “61% majority” will actually support him.

    Again, a Stupid Boss can only begets Stupid Ministers.

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  • 让孩子做孩子该做的事!:

    九岁的孩子,可能连饭是怎么煮的都不知道,却被利用来到莊严的法庭控告部长?

    可怜可怜这孩子吧,让孩子做孩子应该做的事,别让孩子背上他们不应该背上的包覆!

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  • John Doe:

    This boy is certainly a pro player in snake and ladder games and sure take great offence at OYK saying about Covid Omicron is like playing it which made this boy F angry

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  • KMT:

    An epic act by a 9-yr-0?

    What a joke!

    So much about human rights, so much about individual freedom to choose what to do and what not!

    What about this beautiful and courageous 9-yr-0?

    Fully understand what is going on? An informed decision to sue? Acted on one’s free will? What psychological impact will there be in the future?………

    It is just cruel!

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  • xoxo:

    Give credit to the boy’s parent.
    If only more young sg-parents have such courage.
    As for the boy,me thinks he will be well brought up.

    Kudos!

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  • theforgottongeneration:

    Not surprised if they quickly pass new bill allowing pappies to use their SGVouchers to fund OKY defense. So sia suay nowadays, rest of world really laughing at us.

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  • Can't fool everyone always:

    Time for OYK & LHL to take take responsibility and ownership for any and all of the mendacious decisions which they have mandated in their public policies over Singaporeans. We’ve given them the longest runway and the best of our loyalty to this country…. but not to an indulgent money-raking corporation.

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  • NotMyProblem:

    Who's next?:
    PAPs and their mil$ paid cronies have become a big joke to citizens.

    And you blame the PAP. Ever heard this before?

    “Dumb politicians are not the problem, the problem is the dumb people that keep voting for them”.

    Bukit Batok and Bukit Panjang voters proved the above!!

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    @ If only more young sg-parents have such courage.
    As for the boy,me thinks he will be well brought up.

    Yeah right. Might as well you come forward and take over fight. Better Right ?

    Nicer for you to say if only i and my family have such courage but no balls.

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  • Fire:

    Let’s

    Bless this courages Boy & Family .

    PAP mandate strong:
    @ If only more young sg-parents have such courage.
    As for the boy,me thinks he will be well brought up.

    Yeah right. Might as well you come forward and take over fight. Better Right ?

    Nicer for you to say if only i and my family have such courage but no balls.

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  • Immunity how?:

    Do show us how immunity is accorded to MPs!

    Can miniSTIRs make false statements outside the domain of pariahment?

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  • illiterate pap voters:

    We watched the kDrama, THE Devil Judge.

    After that, we just shake our heads at the stupidity of cotton sheep in pap island under pap misrule.

    1, in the kDrama, the king fixers all sit over luxurious dinner and drinks and discuss who is to be the next president. If cotton sheep is able to get the inside information, this is how pap discusses who the next pm too.

    2, in the kDrama, once a candidate steps forward, all manner of deals are made priorly, who to get what lucre. If cotton sheep is able to get the inside information, this is also how pap rewards those who agree to the candidate to be pm. If cotton sheep just take a look at who gets what S$m job in pap gic in pap temasick in everything pap runs, the answer is right there. The S$m pap jobs without a single responsibility.

    3, in the kDrama, a judge came forward to thwart the group. If cotton sheep is smart enough, Singapore too has such a judge, and is generally known as OPPO. alas. Over and over again cotton sheep has thrown such a Singaporean judge aside to remain under the tyranny of S$m pa ownself pay ownself under pap ownself justify ownself system. Now some cotton sheep wants to fight the No Vax No Play Rule by pap. hahaha. so comic. As if the pap courts will overturn such a pap rule.

    In the end, if cotton sheep really want a bright and honest society, then, no choice lah but to accept the judge in our midst, whether WP PSP SDP or such.

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  • The case of Justice Bao.....:

    Bao Zheng was born into a scholar family and studied diligently as a youth. Ultimately, he passed the imperial civil service examination at the age of 29, and was soon offered a government job as a county magistrate.

    However, his aged parents were in poor health at that time and Bao Zheng decided to put filial piety first. He resigned from the prestigious position and returned home to take care of his parents for nearly a decade until they both passed away.

    Bao Zheng then returned to government and served as a local official. Being honest and judicious, he was soon promoted to be magistrate of the Song capital, Kaifeng, which was a most challenging place to govern as many aristocrats and powerful families lived there.

    However, by implementing a series of reforms, Bao Zheng transformed it into an orderly place in just over a year. For example, traditionally, a plaintiff had to prepare a claim in writing and pass it on to the court through the clerk officials. Often, powerful families would bribe the clerks to drop or block a lawsuit.

    Bao Zheng decided to allow people to make oral complaints without having to complete paperwork. In this way, poorly educated people could avoid any injustices committed by officials who would manipulate the facts in the paperwork.

    This new approach greatly improved public order in the capital, as any serious complaint, no matter who was involved, would be dealt with fairly and impartially by Judge Bao. The stalwart magistrate soon came to be known as the “Iron-faced Judge” committed to Justice for All.

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  • LEEs betray Singapore:

    Nothing of this in the Straits Times. It proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that Straits Times editor is JUST A DOG SERVING HIS POLITICAL MASTERS THE PAP.

    It is a FUCKING DESGRASE that a potential future PM of Singapore can spread such falsehood and and pressure citizen into having their kids vaccinated.
    If the case goes before the courts and even if Ong is to win HE STILL WOULD HAVE LOST. The BEST AND RIGHT MOVE for Ong is to STEP DOWN AS HEALTH MINISTER.

    The attempts by LHL TO FIX THE WP has BACKFIRED. PAP has to PUT ITS OWN HOUSE IN ORDER FIRST.PAP UNDER LHL IS A JOKE.

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  • MarBowling:

    In this Historical Milestone lawsuit by a 9-year-old KID and his GREAT PARENT against World Class Minister SNEAKY-EYED Ong Yee Con, we NEED a Bao Zheng to METE OUT JUSTICE, Period! Any other joker appointed to squat on THE BENCH is JUST WAYANG AND FOREGONE CONCLUSION: Ong Yee Con WILL WIN THE CASE W/O HIS PANTS OR UNDERWEAR, period!

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  • Dont trust PAP:

    Why no COP?
    Can WP raises one even though all PAP MPs may squash it?
    Why no COP on Vivian Balakrishnan’s “honest” mistake on tracetogether?
    If Lawrence Wong knew and reported to his boss regarding the latter brother’s dealing with the government department, I wonder why the police chief, Perm Sec, Shanmuggan or the PM did not tell Vivian about his mistake until many months later. Something is not right.
    That is the problem with autocratic rule.

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    北京冬奥颁奖服曝光 网友惊:我妈都不想穿
    https://sports.creaders.net/2022/01/02/2436695.html

    China HK even Taiwan no lack of international level fashion designers.

    咁慳!

    Rumours of pocket no longer deep enough is true ?

    喂. China and pro china fans cannot criticize ok. Against 習思想. 不許崇洋媚外!

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  • illiterate pap voters:

    pap propaganda machinery is now in very, very, very high gear.

    If we were to listen to it without ang inkling, we would have thought pap island is doing very well now economically.

    Every piece of news from pap is that 2021 the pap island GREW, GREw, GRew, grew.

    Why all such news starting now from pap folks?

    hahaha.

    To pave the way to justify raising GST from 7% to 9%.

    cotton sheep, you MFs, can you wake up please? you hardly make median wage S$3,500pm, and you believe the pap folks who pay each other S$m pa that GST is for your good?

    ffff.

    If you make pap wage, for sure 9% GST is nothing. Even 19% GST is nothing.

    BUT for ffff sake, you hardly make median wage, and many of your children with degrees from so called world class NUS cannot even secure a job against a fake degree holder from ceca land.

    How long do you want to remain as cotton sheep, the illiterate sheep who produce cotton for pap folks?

    One more thing. pap propaganda is saying HDB resale prices have risen las year 2021.

    Honestly, is rising price for an overpaid HDB rental unit with a fixed lease a good thing?

    Are you so stupid that rising HDB resale prices only mean one thing, HARDSHIP for the next generation which is your grandchildren and great grandchildren.

    For 50+ years now, aren’t you wise enough to know pap is spinning about economic growth to make you poorer?

    After all, most of you are hardly employed, and if ever employed are mostly agents property or insurance, and if in an office, cannot even make S$3,500 pm.

    ffff.

    Why are you so ffffing stupid?

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  • xoxo:

    Whatever,PAP’s puppie$ only good at misconstruing truths and telling lies.
    Sucking up and licking dirtied boots while wagging tail$?

    If PAP MANDATE STRONG,why need GRC ,WHY REQUIRE POFMA and all you *por lam par$*?

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  • Tr, ue Blue Singaporean:

    What an exploitation of a 9 year old boy. unless he is super gifted with IQ of 200, he would have not read, understood or be concerned with this. BTW, are 9 year old allowed to have Facebook account?

    In either case, there is nothing wrong in what OYK said. if it is then Xi jinping, Biden, fauci etc all need to be in jail too.

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  • LEEs betrayed Singapore:

    Ong GO FUCK SPIDER.

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  • LEEs betrayed Singapore:

    Ong GO FUCK SPIDER. One potential PM candidate DOWN.LHL must be HAVING NIGHTMARES. The next time someone must sue MAI HUM TILL HIS UNDERWARE DROP. It is a sight worth waiting for. After so long still no news of a future PM. The saying POWER IS MORE ADDITIVE THAN OPIUM IS VERY TRUE.
    MEI HUM SO ADDITIED TO BEING PM had he will not give up his seat willingly. At the very lest he will be MM till he go up the lorry, like his old man LEE KAYU.

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  • Just a soft update:

    Rumour has it that Iris Koh is trying to get a lawyer to represent the little boy, but all the lawyers that she have contacted dare not take the case.

    I heard that one of the possible side effects of the mRNA vaccines is that they shrink the balls of the male patient? Dunno true or not? lol

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  • theforgottongeneration:

    Everyone seems to forget that ministers are EXEMPTED by POFMA to be accountable if they had made FALSE statements. Backside fully covered, lah.

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  • mrWie:

    He has a new nickname: Mr. ONGmicron

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  • Spineless Sinkie Syndrome:

    According to PAPies recent MSM news, more than 50% of Sinkie parents have “registered” their kids for the Xperimental jabs. LOL.

    PAPies trying to coerce the other 50% of parents through cheap tricks of peer pressure again? May work very well on spineless Sinkies though… LOL.

    Anyway, if its really true, that so many millions of parents are putting their kids up for the (Russian Roulette) Xpermimental jabs; then at the very least SHARE the below BATCH No. info widely with all Sinkie parents ASAP:

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/Av10voXA0ukB/

    Good Luck to those Sinkie kids!

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  • Calvin, the carnivorous turtle:

    Coronaviruses have a spike-like structure on their surface called an S protein. COVID-19 mRNA vaccines give instructions to immune cells for how to make a harmless piece of an S protein. After vaccination, cells begin making the protein pieces and displaying them on cell surfaces. The immune system recognizes the protein and begins building an immune response and making antibodies. After delivering instructions, the mRNA is immediately broken down. It never enters the nucleus of the cell, where DNA is kept.

    READ CAREFULLY: After delivering instructions, the mRNA is immediately broken down. It never enters the nucleus of the cell, where DNA is kept.

    Sure? broken down. Never enters the nucleus of the cell, where DNA is kept? Now we know why mRNA vaccine is different from other vaccines in the past. No joke

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  • Spineless Sinkie Syndrome:

    Calvin, the carnivorous turtle:
    Coronaviruses have a spike-like structure on their surface called an S protein. COVID-19 mRNA vaccines give instructions to immune cells for how to make a harmless piece of an S protein. After vaccination, cells begin making the protein pieces and displaying them on cell surfaces. The immune system recognizes the protein and begins building an immune response and making antibodies. After delivering instructions, the mRNA is immediately broken down. It never enters the nucleus of the cell, where DNA is kept.

    Calvin, don’t try to deflect attention leh.
    Your comment is only HALF the story and purposely? avoid mentioning the key point.

    So allow me to elaborate on your HALF-TRUTH comment with the KEY point within the <<>> section here:

    “…After vaccination, cells begin making the protein pieces and displaying them on cell surfaces. The immune system recognizes the protein and then…

    <<>>”

    So, now do you get the whole story of your deliberate or accidental half-truth? LOL.

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  • “After delivering instructions, the mRNA is immediately broken down.”

    BULLSHIT !!!

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  • Calvin, the carnivorous turtle:

    Spineless Sinkie Syndrome: Calvin, don’t try to deflect attention leh.
    Your comment is only HALF the story and purposely? avoid mentioning the key point.

    So, now do you get the whole story of your deliberate or accidental half-truth? LOL.

    TRE Tech:
    “After delivering instructions, the mRNA is immediately broken down.”

    BULLSHIT !!!

    SSS you got my drift. TRE Tech need reading glass liao.
    Too direct, wait POFMA by MFT. Oops… which is which? MTF or MFT? lol

    Read my last paragraph above: [Sure? broken down. Never enters the nucleus of the cell, where DNA is kept? Now we know why mRNA vaccine is different from other vaccines in the past. No joke]

    Tech: Bo read wrong lar, you use soft words, I used a stronger one. lol

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  • Spineless Sinkie Syndrome:

    My full comment somehow did not display correctly above.

    Repeat here again for Calvin (the Half-Truth turtle. LOL) and the benefit of other readers. I continue your HALF-TRUTH story below :

    “… After vaccination, cells begin making the protein pieces and displaying them on cell surfaces. The immune system recognizes the protein and then …

    … Your immune system (e.g. T-Cells) ATTACKS and kills those cells with the Spike protein on its surface. In simple terms, the Xperimental mRNA jabs HIJACKS your body’s cells (such as Heart cells, liver cells, nerve cells etc.) to produce these FOREIGN & BAD Proteins, so that your own body’s immune system ATTACKS itself !!!
    That is why so many get auto-immune, nervous system or other organ failures and severe side effects and even DEATH after these Xperimental jabs. It is basically, an EVIL system to turn your healthy cells into production factories for BAD Proteins, which then causes your own T-Cells to attack your own cells.”

    There… I help to finish the WHOLE TRUTH of the “chow” Turtles HALF-TRUTH. I think Calvin the turtle surely “buay tahan” me liao. Happy New Year. LOL.

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  • Calvin, the carnivorous turtle:

    Spineless Sinkie Syndrome:
    My full comment somehow did not display correctly above.

    Repeat here again for Calvin (the Half-Truth turtle. LOL) and the benefit of other readers. I continue your HALF-TRUTH story below :

    “… After vaccination, cells begin making the protein pieces and displaying them on cell surfaces. The immune system recognizes the protein and then …

    … Your immune system (e.g. T-Cells) ATTACKS and kills those cells with the Spike protein on its surface. In simple terms, the Xperimental mRNA jabs HIJACKS your body’s cells (such as Heart cells, liver cells, nerve cells etc.) to produce these FOREIGN & BAD Proteins, so that your own body’s immune system ATTACKS itself !!!
    That is why so many get auto-immune, nervous system or other organ failures and severe side effects and even DEATH after these Xperimental jabs. It is basically, an EVIL system to turn your healthy cells into production factories for BAD Proteins, which then causes your own T-Cells to attack your own cells.”

    There… I help to finish the WHOLE TRUTH of the “chow” Turtles HALF-TRUTH. I think Calvin the turtle surely “buay tahan” me liao. Happy New Year. LOL.

    WOW WOW WOW thank you for this. Just fascinating. All I can say is… WOW! Imagine the suicidal greed it takes to not share your protocol with the rest of the world.

    But I’ve already have enough information on the final product to design processes. And also there is the magic mixing step where RNA meets lipid, which the engineers were afraid to tinker with. I agree.
    The lipids are a big part of the equation. I assume they help negotiate the mRNA past the plasma membrane and into the cell, where the mRNA can begin protein manufacturing, which grow the spikes on the outside of the cell, which are the antigens that elicit an antibody response. Happy New Year. Tyger, tyger burning bright. Beware it bites! lol

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/health/pfizer-biontech-covid-19-vaccine.html

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  • Spineless Sinkie Syndrome:

    Calvin, no need to WOW WOW WOW 3 times lah… that’s a little superfluous and a tad insincere. LOL.

    Anyway, since you’re so well-read into this, then there’s really no need for me to tell your most erudite highness, that the mRNA and spike protein is just 1 of the MANY potential problems with the components of these Xperimental jabs.

    For example, there are already peer-reviewed medical studies that indicated those lipid nanoparticles you mentioned (i.e. the shell casing which holds the mRNA) by itself tends to accumulate in high concentrations within ovaries, lymph nodes as well as the bone marrow. Ok, now’s the time to cue your “WOW WOW WOW”…

    In any case, your guess is as good as mine, on what will be the LONG-TERM side effects of these NON-NATURAL stuff accumulating in these places within the bodies of those “vax-addicts”, especially when they take in more endless “boosters”, yes? LOL.

    https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Accumulation-of-C-12-200-lipid-nanoparticles-in-bone-marrow-Nanoparticles-of-70-80-nm_fig5_260950230

    Beware too the Tiger Tiger year may turn out to be a “Sick Cat” 《病猫》LOL.

    Btw, did you take the Xperimental (mRNA) jabs yourself?
    Don’t be shy to answer here, ok? ;-)

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  • Calvin, the carnivorous turtle:

    Spineless Sinkie Syndrome: For example, there are already peer-reviewed medical studies that indicated those lipid nanoparticles you mentioned (i.e. the shell casing which holds the mRNA) by itself tends to accumulate in high concentrations within ovaries, lymph nodes as well as the bone marrow. Ok, now’s the time to cue your “WOW WOW WOW”…

    In any case, your guess is as good as mine, on what will be the LONG-TERM side effects of these NON-NATURAL stuff accumulating in these places within the bodies of those “vax-addicts”, especially when they take in more endless “boosters”, yes? LOL.

    Beware too the Tiger Tiger year may turn out to be a “Sick Cat” 《病猫》LOL.

    Btw, did you take the Xperimental (mRNA) jabs yourself?
    Don’t be shy to answer here, ok? ;-)

    OK. The lipid nanoparticles are an amazing technology in their own right with a polar and non-polar end so when you put a bunch of lipids together, they form a ball with the non-polar ends on the inside, and the polar ends on the outside. This is also how soap works to remove dirt. Molecular biologists used these methods (some of them 50 years ago) to purify DNA and RNA.

    In this case, it’s pretty safe to suppose that the production timelines and the use of several highly qualified facilities significantly contributes to both the safety and efficiency of the final product. Speeding up the production timeline and compressing logistics steps ALSO means that there would be higher vulnerabilities and less time to selectively intervene if issues with some batches should surface during the batch testing phase. Faster is only better up to a point – you don’t have the “luxury” of doing a recall to fix a quality issue once a dose is poked into someone’s arm.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7239045/

    Btw: I don’t give takeaways answers. You need to do some brain work. I would like to post an article here “The Toxicity of mRNA” but refrained because I don’t want to scare the living shits out of SS with the exception of you with a “脊柱” a tiger’s favorite! lol
    (Ok. Answer your million $$$ question. I am not vaccinated. No 1,2 or booster even mandate I will try to siamz)

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  • MarBowling:

    Spineless Sinkie Syndrome:
    January 9, 2022 at 11:08 pm (Quote)
    Calvin, no need to WOW WOW WOW 3 times lah… that’s a little superfluous and a tad insincere. LOL.

    In any case, your guess is as good as mine, on what will be the LONG-TERM side effects of these NON-NATURAL stuff accumulating in these places within the bodies of those “vax-addicts”, especially when they take in more endless “boosters”, yes? LOL

    Beware too the Tiger Tiger year may turn out to be a “Sick Cat” 《病猫》LOL.

    Response: The New Lunar New Year of the TIGER falls on 1st Feb 2022! As TIGER sounds like “HU”, Hopefully from then onwards SinKapore would NOT BE (in Cantonese)“HU KUO TEE TEE”! aka Kenna VERY and DAMN BITTER scenario!

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  • Spineless Sinkie Syndrome:

    Calvin, the carnivorous turtle: OK.

    Btw: I don’t give takeaways answers. You need to do some brain work. I would like to post an article here “The Toxicity of mRNA” but refrained because I don’t want to scare the living shits out of SS with the exception of you with a “脊柱” a tiger’s favorite! lol
    (Ok. Answer your million $$$ question. I am not vaccinated. No 1,2 or booster even mandate I will try to siamz)

    Calvin, don’t need to “hold back” the Truth or scared that Sinkies are scaredy cats lah. LOL. If Sinkies scared of FACTS & DATA, then they deserve the label of being brainless & spineless, so it does not matter anyway.

    “Holding back” is why Sinkingpore has gotten to this sad state of affairs where everyday Sinkies all “hold back” & do NOT dare to even ask QUESTIONS about too many issues & the Piss Poor policies of the “FamiLEE Dynasty” over the past DECADES lor. LOL.

    In any case, I don’t do easy “takeaways” either, but I’ll take your word for it that you did NOT take any (mRNA) Xperimental jabs and I applaud you for having a spine & a brain, so I won’t “脊柱” with you, ok? LOL.

    However, you still seem enamored of all these fanciful new bio-tech stuff, that’s why I had suspected you to be an eager “early adopter” to these jab.

    I too like new gizmos & technological progress in general, but only when its properly tested and and does not potentially “screws” with your health / bodily integrity. These Xperimental (mRNA) jabs clearly are neither.

    Saying that these “work the same as soap” or trying implying that they are just as “safe & efficacious” is just an over-simplification and dangerous to say the least.

    You know, washing your hands with soap is a TOTALLY different ball game from injecting “similar” stuff into your circulatory system, yes? LOL.

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  • Calvin, the carnivorous turtle:

    Spineless Sinkie Syndrome: Calvin, don’t need to “hold back” the Truth or scared that Sinkies are scaredy cats lah. LOL. If Sinkies scared of FACTS & DATA, then they deserve the label of being brainless & spineless, so it does not matter anyway.

    “Holding back” is why Sinkingpore has gotten to this sad state of affairs where everyday Sinkies all “hold back” & do NOT dare to even ask QUESTIONS about too many issues & the Piss Poor policies of the “FamiLEE Dynasty” over the past DECADES lor. LOL.

    Sorry, but your analysis seems woefully inadequate and misleading. “brainless & spineless” is a pejorative meant to put a negative judgment on someone. LOL. What’s implied is that cowardice is a bad thing. I would counter this all with the definition of courage reputed to come from John Wayne: “Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway.” Perhaps the outstanding aspect for ordinary Sinkies to contemplate, is not look for a comfortable, easy niche in the common stream of life.

    The difference between the courageous and the foolhardy, which is often determined only in retrospect. Our political system selects for neither wisdom nor courage, but rather empty oratory and jingoism. As long as we continue to elect leaders who cannot master their own childish fears we are doomed to be without true leaders. lol

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  • Spineless Sinkie Syndrome:

    Calvin, the carnivorous turtle: Sorry, but your analysis seems woefully inadequate and misleading. “brainless & spineless” is a pejorative meant to put a negative judgment on someone. LOL. What’s implied is that cowardice is a bad thing. I would counter this all with the definition of courage reputed to come from John Wayne: “Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway.” Perhaps the outstanding aspect for ordinary Sinkies to contemplate, is not look for a comfortable, easy niche in the common stream of life.

    The difference between the courageous and the foolhardy, which is often determined only in retrospect. Our political system selects for neither wisdom nor courage, but rather empty oratory and jingoism. As long as we continue to elect leaders who cannot master their own childish fears we are doomed to be without true leaders. lol

    Analysis? What “analysis” did I put forth??
    Me saying washing hands with soap is a totally different ball game from injecting stuff into your bloodstream is COMMON SENSE lah.

    There is NO “analysis” there, Calvin, so don’t over-analyse it or philosophize it to death with some John Wayne movie quotes (which aren’t even relevant to our discussion LOL.)

    In any case, your last para highlighted the same points I’ve always made. You said “Our political system selects for neither wisdom nor courage…As long as we continue to elect leaders …”
    So, its still goes back to the electorate, yes?
    i.e.) Its still Sinkies who are the ones being suckers for all the lies of PAPies in exchange for some small “trick or treat” every GE – which goes back to my point of Sinkies being “Spineless & Brainless”, yes? LOL.

    So, if that’s the case, then I agree with you that majority Sinkies are the problem.
    Further, as I’ve also pointed out, part of solution to this is to constantly give FACTS & DATA to Sinkies and not “hold back” anymore.

    In critical times like ours, I think we need more people to say it like it is, rather than mince words or use flowery jingo or to take a page from the famous PAPie English dictionary (of “ponding vs flooding” LOL).

    Look. If its Black, then just say its black. No need to be a Slippery Snake or a Lawyer twisting ones words until black turns into white, yeah? LOL.

    I’m not your boss and neither are you my superior in this forum, so why “hold back” the Truth and nothing but the truth?

    If you want to “hold back” or do “self-censorship” on FACTS & DATA to state your logical argument, then what else do you want to rely on? Pray tell me. LOL.

    Btw, feel free to tell me what’s a non-pejorative term you’d use for those Sinkies who I term as “brainless & spineless”, if you prefer to be more PC about this or are so sensitive to them snowflakes loosing their rainbows? LOL.

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  • Calvin, the carnivorous turtle:

    Spineless Sinkie Syndrome: Analysis? What “analysis” did I put forth??
    Me saying washing hands with soap is a totally different ball game from injecting stuff into your bloodstream is COMMON SENSE lah.

    There is NO “analysis” there, Calvin, so don’t over-analyse it or philosophize it to death with some John Wayne movie quotes (which aren’t even relevant to our discussion LOL.)

    In any case, your last para highlighted the same points I’ve always made. You said “Our political system selects for neither wisdom nor courage…As long as we continue to elect leaders …”
    So, its still goes back to the electorate, yes?
    i.e.) Its still Sinkies who are the ones being suckers for all the lies of PAPies in exchange for some small “trick or treat” every GE – which goes back to my point of Sinkies being “Spineless & Brainless”, yes? LOL.

    So, if that’s the case, then I agree with you that majority Sinkies are the problem.
    Further, as I’ve also pointed out, part of solution to this is to constantly give FACTS & DATA to Sinkies and not “hold back” anymore.

    In critical times like ours, I think we need more people to say it like it is, rather than mince words or use flowery jingo or to take a page from the famous PAPie English dictionary (of “ponding vs flooding” LOL).

    Look. If its Black, then just say its black. No need to be a Slippery Snake or a Lawyer twisting ones words until black turns into white, yeah? LOL.

    I’m not your boss and neither are you my superior in this forum, so why “hold back” the Truth and nothing but the truth?

    If you want to “hold back” or do “self-censorship” on FACTS & DATA to state your logical argument, then what else do you want to rely on? Pray tell me. LOL.

    Btw, feel free to tell me what’s a non-pejorative term you’d use for those Sinkies who I term as “brainless & spineless”, if you prefer to be more PC about this or are so sensitive to them snowflakes loosing their rainbows? LOL.

    The power of rhetorics works for all sides. And what is your answer to propaganda? (not asking for your takeaways when I also don’t; lol) “Cleansing” means removing dirt! The phrase “DNA and RNA cleansing” clearly implies.
    You know what scares me? FACTS & DATA! Research projects need to have a take-home message that sounds important to someone with essentially no training in the field? But I agree completely with your critique that transparency deserves support.

    Intellectual discourses serves as a template for real life. It is a humbling experience. Your limitations become clear after the first minute, both physically and mentally. But it also strengthens your character and teaches respect for your opponent. So don’t “buay tahan” me, ok? I recommend it ;-)

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  • Spineless Sinkie Syndrome:

    Calvin, the carnivorous turtle: The power of rhetorics works for all sides. And what is your answer to propaganda? (not asking for your takeaways when I also don’t; lol) …
    You know what scares me? FACTS & DATA! Research projects need to have a take-home message that sounds important to someone with essentially no training in the field? But I agree completely with your critique that transparency deserves support.

    Intellectual discourses serves as a template for real life. It is a humbling experience. Your limitations become clear after the first minute, both physically and mentally. But it also strengthens your character and teaches respect for your opponent. So don’t “buay tahan” me, ok? I recommend it ;-)

    You’re not making sense now. You seem to be the one making flowery rhetoric for the sake of it, and then accusing others of doing so. LOL.

    First, you ask me “what is my answer to propaganda?” I thought I already said FACTS & DATA. Is it too difficult for you to follow my reasoning?
    FACTS & DATA provides the foundation for reasoned arguments to dispel propaganda, political fear-mongering, emotional manipulation etc.

    Then you said facts & data “scares” you. Huh?

    Like I keep saying, if you can’t base your arguments on facts & data, then what do you have? Your flim-flam rhetoric? LOL.
    Then you talk about supporting “transparency”. So, how does one support transparency, if you have no FACTS nor DATA ?? LOL.

    Next, you try to cover-up your own inadequacies by trying to insinuate that others “limitations become clear after the first minute”… LOL. Oh Please lah… that’s just pathetic. Everyone can see that you’re out of your league there, but still trying desperately to hang-on by your finger-tips. LOL.

    Go to my arguments and debate me logically, if you can; instead of making presumptions about others (esp. physically & mentally), when you don’t even know me. You have not even seen a photo of me, so physically can you be sure you don’t look more handsome than me? LOL.
    As for mental capabilities, your condescending tone coupled with your flailing response that’s all over the place, already tells me more than enough. LOL.

    TBH, I don’t respect you at all. :)
    But from what little interaction I have from your hare-brained & irrational comments here, you can hardly be called an “opponent”. Perhaps, your riposte is more like “cheap thrill” entertainment for me. LOL.

    So, don’t worry I won’t “buay tahan” you at all. In fact, I’m having a good laugh now.

    Btw, can you add more refreshing “rhetoric” instead of just doing copycat my use of “buay tahan” phrase?
    If you can’t debate me logically, then at least try a little harder to fake an intellectual superiority complex with some creative use of language lah. LOL.
    Good night Calvin. :)

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  • Calvin, the carnivorous turtle:

    FACTS & DATA provides the foundation for reasoned arguments to dispel propaganda, political fear-mongering, emotional manipulation etc. – Spineless

    FACTS & DATA! Research projects need to have a take-home message that sounds important to someone with essentially no training in the field? – turtle

    Let’s focus on mRNA ‘FACTS & DATA.’ Leave out your “propaganda, political fear-mongering, emotional manipulation etc. Those sn*ke oil tools used by salesman like you. ok? Are you too DENSE to understand what I am trying to say, above? Maybe I need to write like you. lol

    Spineless, you don’t express contempt? Seriously? You write of not being “buay tahan” but your comments are dripping with it! lol.

    Spineless Sinkie Syndrome:
    You have not even seen a photo of me, so physically can you be sure you don’t look more handsome than me? LOL.

    Contempt also shows from your gratuitous mockery of somebody’s appearance. True contempt should be reserved for stupidity, ignorance, self-righteousness and intolerance for people like you. (Btw: I beats you in looks HANDS DOWN!! VERY 100% sure. So keep your wifey away, lol)

    Spineless Sinkie Syndrome:
    these Xperimental jabs. It is basically, an EVIL system to turn your healthy cells into production factories for BAD Proteins, which then causes your own T-Cells to attack your own cells.”

    There… I help to finish the WHOLE TRUTH of the “chow” Turtles HALF-TRUTH. I think Calvin the turtle surely “buay tahan” me liao. Happy New Year. LOL.

    I have no respect for those who live in the world of “alternative facts” and attempt to foist their ignorance on the rest of the world. If you don’t accept science, if you try to curtail other’s rights because of your own bigoted beliefs, if you mock people who read and think – you deserve nothing but contempt from me, also.

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  • Spineless Sinkie Syndrome:

    Calvin, the carnivorous turtle:

    FACTS & DATA! Research projects need to have a take-home message that sounds important to someone with essentially no training in the field? – turtle

    Your “Take home message” is TV one-liners like “pandemic of anti-vaxers” right? LOL. Or some other dumb-downed tagline for MSM propaganda precisely because there are NO facts & data to show.

    Calvin, everyone can see you lost the plot but you still want to argue for the sake of arguing using nonsensical statements. Ouch. LOL.

    You are assuming people with “no training in the field” means people should not have the facts & data (to decide for themselves)? That’s such a condescending tone isn’t it? And, yes I’m purposely giving you the same tone in return, so you get back what you deserve. LOL
    So, what kind of “expert” is Mr Turtle? so much so that you can be the arbiter of Truth for everyone else? How’s that for condescension & contempt…for a Turtle? LOL.

    Next you say “Let’s focus on mRNA ‘FACTS & DATA.’ & Leave out your “propaganda…”, but from all the above comments thus far, YOU were the one who’s been giving loads of propaganda without a shred of data at all, except “John Wayne” quotes. LOL.
    Then you try very hard to turn the tables and twist like the reptile that you are, by foisting your own obvious faults onto others (like calling others Snake Oil salesman when you were exposed by me earlier as the Slippery Snake). Nice try but such tricks may work only for amateurs. LOL

    Ok, since you say “Focus on FACTS & DATA” so here’s some facts & data for you: https://swprs.org/covid19-facts/

    The above URL has a summary of info (with further links to resources/studies) showing the madness of current COVID mandates & mass Xperimental jabs.

    Now, YOUR TURN.

    SHOW people where are your FACTS & DATA that support your arguments (esp the one with your insidious implication that injecting lipid nanoparticles is “like” soap washing away dirt. LOL)

    Then, you say:
    “Contempt also shows from your gratuitous mockery of somebody’s appearance…. (Btw: I beats you in looks HANDS DOWN!! VERY 100% sure. So keep your wifey away, lol) etc.”

    I first gave you the benefit of the doubt that you might be more handsome, but you can’t handle my graciousness? Then, why be angry with me for your parents’ fault? LOL.
    Once again, you demonstrated your own delusional mentality to everyone here, when I already said you have NOT even seen a photo of me, so on what factual basis do you claim you are “100% sure, you beat me in looks, hands down”? LOL.
    Then, in your adolescent ego trip, you claim I should keep my wifey away? Other people’s old wife you also want ah? LOL. Since you’re so “in heat”, my neighbor has a pet chihuahua so perhaps that is most suitable for you. No? LOL.

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  • Calvin, the carnivorous turtle:

    LOL. Can see you’re slowly losing that ‘cool’ of yours. What happen to your:

    Spineless Sinkie Syndrome:
    That is why so many get auto-immune, nervous system or other organ failures and severe side effects and even DEATH after these Xperimental jabs. It is basically, an EVIL system to turn your healthy cells into production factories for BAD Proteins, which then causes your own T-Cells to attack your own cells.”

    There… I help to finish the WHOLE TRUTH of the “chow” Turtles HALF-TRUTH. I think Calvin the turtle surely “buay tahan” me liao. Happy New Year. LOL.

    Being nice, civil, respectful has not worked with hard heads like you. They see it as weakness. Now, I will use the same tactics, except we will use the facts, not lies of your above. If we were dealing with rational adults who have the nation’s best interest at heart, rather than their own selfish agenda like yours.

    How’s that for contempt? It is extremely difficult not to objectify and hold contempt for, those who have the audacity to lie to my face. I am initially very open and forgiving; understanding others hold dearly to beliefs that may have no basis in fact.

    Spineless Sinkie Syndrome:
    “It is basically, an EVIL system to turn your healthy cells into production factories for BAD Proteins, which then causes your own T-Cells to attack your own cells.

    This is all pretty basic technology that was largely developed by scientists. I used these methods. I have never produced a vaccine, but I could do every step in this procedure except producing the lipid nanoparticles – and I use similar technology to that for proteins, producing what are called nanodiscs. Does that answers some of your questions?

    Btw: I choose the chihuahua. (Sorry mean no respect to her. She is not involved) I rather commit bestiality. LOL

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  • Spineless Sinkie Syndrome:

    Calvin, the carnivorous turtle:
    LOL. Can see you’re slowly losing that ‘cool’ of yours. What happen to your:

    LOL. Don’t know who is losing the “cool” liao..
    I neglect to quote the rest of your nonsense.. even the one where you openly lusts for a chihuahua. LOL.

    Anyway, all your comment is hogwash and rhetoric with no substance again, so I won’t waste time.

    I’ve offered my FACTS & DATA, so its still YOUR TURN now:
    – WHERE ARE YOUR FACTS & DATA sources??

    PS: Don’t try to “siam” again leh… LOL.

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  • Quiet road:

    Even 9 year old wants to check 0n ong.

    (After ong own self checked itself).

    How u wish he (ong) can use all his

    Own self check itself determined mind

    Spend 0n handling covid SPREAD!

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  • Spineless Sinkie Syndrome:

    Calvin, the carnivorous turtle:

    This is all pretty basic technology that was largely developed by scientists. I used these methods. I have never produced a vaccine, but I could do every step in this procedure except producing the lipid nanoparticles – and I use similar technology to that for proteins, producing what are called nanodiscs. Does that answers some of your questions?

    Btw Calvin, you claim with some perfunctory manner that its all “pretty basic technology” or that you’ve used these methods, but in the same breath you said you have never produced a vaccine yet you “could” do every step in this procedure. LOL.

    So, what’s your point? Your statement above is all irrelevant and just strawman distraction to our debate.

    You being able to make such stuff does NOT mean its safe to inject into the human body, yes? LOL.

    Even if your claim is true that you could make whatever “nanodisc” (even if nanodisc wtf? is same thing as “lipid nanoparticles”)
    It still answers NOTHING and does NOT address my questions about safety & efficacy of injecting these into the human body.

    Are you stupid or trying to “play dumb”? LOL.

    If you’re dumb enough to try such failed arguments, then I doubt you can make even a banana cake, much less some high-tech “nano-stuff”. LOL.

    Btw, everyone here is still waiting for your supporting FACTS & DATA leh.

    Still nothing? Calvin the Turtle totally embarrassed liao, until his turtle head shirking back into his shell already & dare not come out to respond? Ouch. LOL.

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  • Calvin, the carnivorous turtle:

    Spineless Sinkie Syndrome: Btw Calvin, you claim with some perfunctory manner that its all “pretty basic technology” or that you’ve used these methods, but in the same breath you said you have never produced a vaccine yet you “could” do every step in this procedure. LOL.

    So, what’s your point? Your statement above is all irrelevant and just strawman distraction to our debate.

    Do I owe you an answer? It is just me ‘politely’ telling you to bugger off. You’re really dense. LOL

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  • Spineless Sinkie Syndrome:

    Calvin, the carnivorous turtle: Do I owe you an answer? It is just me ‘politely’ telling you to bugger off. You’re really dense. LOL

    Someone named Calvin, show that he is the one who really “buay tahan” me liao. LOL.

    Some more, he got no expressions of his own… keeps doing copycat of my terms and now even follow my style of using “LOL”. LOL.

    Alamak, Calvin the turtle, cannot make it in debate, then “boh seh” (hokkien “lose form”) some more. LOL.

    In the end, the “chow turtle” no capability to defend himself, because he cannot show any FACTS & DATA, except his baseless claims and fanciful wishy-washy rhetoric.

    Finally, this No substance turtle shrink his head into his shell and then sticks his head out of his reptilian tail to squeak “please don’t disturb me leh & make me more embarrassed, ok?” LOL. Then say other people “dense”, when he himself totally cannot debate logically, and only give out BS from his Turtle mouth. LOL.

    Let me rub in some more salt into his wounded Pride – Calvin you Turtle, you may not be spineless (since you claimed to have NOT taken any of the Xperimental jabs yourself) but you are proven to be brainless & SELFISH too.

    Calvin is SELFISH because he keeps insinuating (without supporting facts & data) that those lipid nanoparticles are “safe” to inject into other PEOPLE, but YET he himself never inject himself with it, yes? LOL.

    Ownself don’t dare to inject with Xperimental stuff, but then want to “psych” others into taking it??
    This are the kinds of SELFISH people we should all EXPOSE for everyone else to see lor. LOL.

    Bye bye! Calvin the selfish & brainless turtle. LOL.

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  • nansha:

    OYK lawyers will tear this lawsuit apart.. Does a 9-year old have the command of knoweldge to even file a lawsuit and be in such details? It is obvious his parents are the real plaintiffs.

    I doubt you can use a kid to file a lawsuit.

    If such is the case, I can use a 1-year old baby to file a lawsuit too.

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