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The Carnage Wrought By A Rentier Society

Yang Zhenhao shared this with me today. It demonstrates the evils of a rentier society. It is the ordinary man who ultimately suffers.

“I feel that you are the best person whom I can share this with. Yesterday while having lunch at the kopitiam foodcourt at Jurong East Mrt station, I noticed that so many foodstalls had closed down thus leaving many empty stalls. Rentals have been soaring, moreover due to social distancing businesses had been badly affected I guess. If the present Gov had been doing enough the stallowners wouldn’t need to undergo such a fate.”

This is the reason why our economic model must change. A rentier economy is not a productive. It is the product of neoliberalism, which has been tossed into the bonfire of the New Economy. For Singapore to progress, We must be more creative and productive.

 

Lim Tean

 

 

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36 Responses to “The Carnage Wrought By A Rentier Society”

  • MarBowling:

    Pathetic sight!

    Like elsewhere in SinKapore, for DONKEY Years and pre-Covid19, these xxx numbers of hawkers were PROVIDING FOODS for the Residents of Jurong East area after PAYING “MARKET RATE” RENTALS to secure a TINY SPACE to earn a LIVING and make enough money to put food on the table for family members.

    By the same token, there are 10 times, 100 times more residents patronizing these xxx numbers of hawker stalls everyday 365 days to PROVIDE FOODS FOR FAMILY MEMBERS!

    The HUGE DIFFERENCE, is during the more than 2 years of DIRE Economic situation faced by those xxx numbers of hawkers is the DWINDLING business due to those GREAT and WONDERFUL measures and RESTRICTIONS imposed by the World Class Ministerial Trash Force of the 3 STOOGES. These pitiful folks have NO CHOICE but to endure POOR business and eventually have to raise the WHITE FLAG! Their REGULAR customers have a CHOICE to go to another place or ORDER their FOODS online!

    Most likely in the coming GE in 2024/2025, most of these ex-hawkers will SHOW MAI HUM the Middle Finger, while those customers WILL CONTINUE TO VOTE FOR MAI HUM AND GANG FOR MORE GOOD YEARS!

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  • myfirstscrew:

    IT IS NOT JUST RENTAL, EVERYTHING HAS BEEN PUSHED FURTHER UP BY GOVT.

    Japan was on this model, pushes cost of living every year till the society was going to break, that was like more than 15 years ago… They finally understand that pushing all prices up cannot be sustainable long term as wages were stagnant and not rising as much. Japan stopped the hike model and prices of things remain stable from then and Japan economy grew and things have become more affordable now.

    Singapore has been pushing prices of all things up… from property, oil, coe, erp, utility, rental etc. All these hikes indirectly affect rental and also raise cost of living. And PAP keeps saying we cannot ask for higher pay because it will raise business cost, thats the hypocrisy.

    The largest landlord is govt, the other landlords are learning from the govt, keep raising rental every year.

    So this is inevitable honestly, unless the PAP is voted out.

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  • John Doe:

    The PAP Administration has clearly arrogantly pressed on stringently their aggressive agenda rich people invited to SG create jobs.

    This is likely a 99 per cent lie, a lie WHICH SG can conjure it up to be. There are no facts and figures, to support it, like one Millionaire was here, 300 jobs was created, for example. Or, Eduard Saverin came here, parked 50 million here with DBS, another example, he created 800 jobs in 2018 in the I T sector.

    This should be a solid presentation that PAP leaders has to show to sound convincing. But alas, alas, all PAP Administration came up short to ‘REMAKE SG’ a BS remake which they repeated and repeated year after year with only MORE AND MORE useless foreign trash invading our shores as can be seen in the HOPELESS productivity over the many decades.

    The PAP Administration had stopped for some 10s of years building of hawker centres the simple concept of which is more centres create competition and give more choices to people. But a BIG NO NO NO NO.

    Did they used tax payers money to MONOPOLIZE hawker food like buying up Kopitiam and run food stalls themselves?

    Some years ago, the NTUC ran a coffee shop at near the Bedok Interchange and SURELY THEIR PROMISES that time was to PROVIDE CHEAP MEALS. It must BE ANOTHER LIE of the NTUC/PAP symbiotic relationship.

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  • PAP the Price Gouger:

    BTW, was the photo of closed empty stalls verified, and not a picture taken during CNY? Just a bit of caution in case social media (TRE) taken to task which is another of the last things under this autocratic democracy of SG need.

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  • Jiak:

    Kopitiam is being priced out of the market, many stalls have flown the coop. To be fair, their food is not really good. The up and comer is Malaysia Boleh or chiak.

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  • TheWorldInCrisis:

    Same at many heartlands hawker centers and wet markets.
    Many stalls are closed down.
    So sad…one da no more wet markets or hawker ctrs.
    In place will be new Food courts and supermarkets..
    Prices of food already rising so fast..in fact weekly!
    The global food crisis has already begun..
    Mils are starving all over the world..
    Here in SG our PM and wife went across to Msia to receive a Datokship from Johore Sultan..
    Where are their priorities?
    Wonder what the Clown Prince PM promised them in return..?¿
    Cunning politics! Nothing else.
    Maybe buying more land up in malaysia in return for millions more malaysians to enter our little crowded SG to work???

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  • Stupid Singaporeans Vote PAP:

    Wrong. For Singapore to progress, we must change government.

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    For Singapore to progress, We must be more creative and productive.
    ====================================================
    Yes, Lim Tean I agreed with you…

    But before you talk so much, where is the video that you said you will make to teach Singaporeans how to avoid being sued for defamation?

    Have you forgotten what you said before?

    Where is your integrity and trust ?

    Come on, Be true to your word.

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  • Sg no hope liow:

    This pappy gov has created a downward spiral for most Singaporeans. People have lousy employment that depend on more population to survive. Those who rent their hdb, do delivery, drive cabs, do condo security, run food store, all depend on more population to survive. However, more population means even lousier employment. Foreigners also compete for these lousy jobs, which pay better then their jobs back home.

    Singaporeans are in a hopeless downward spiral. Only a big turnaround can save us. Kick out this gov.

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    For Singapore to progress, We must be more creative and productive.
    ==================================================================
    BTW, case you are not awre, you are out of touch with reality you know.

    Singaporeans are already very creative..to give you one example.
    the day before public holiday, Singaporeans will creatively fall sick and go on MC.

    after holiday, Singaporeans will also creatively fall sick and go on MC.

    Friday 29 April 2022 Singaporean go MC
    Saturday 30 April 2022 Non working day
    Sunday 01 May 2022 Labour day
    Monday 02 May 2022 Public Holiday in lie of Labour Day
    Tuesday 03 May 2022 Public Holiday for Hari Raya
    Wednesday 04 May 2022 Singaporean take urgent leave.

    See, Singaporean creative or not ?

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  • Marquis⩙of⩙Dalhousie:

    The New Economy Mr Yang mentioned wants to rid of Mom and Pop’s biznez’s.
    This inflation is manufactured and a long time in planning. The world’s a stage and all are but players; until the guy in the audience in the corner stands up and ends it all, because he owns the theater and stage.

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  • what a joke!!:

    The clowns only know how to implement polices to collect more $$ through “FINES” Good example is the return trays policy in hawker centers!!
    But, when come to solving the issue of birds nuisance in hawker centers, they are blind and deaf as if the nuisance of the birds never existed!!
    The birds nuisance in most hawker centers are getting from worse to worsest!!
    Just don’t know what the hell NEA officials are doing!! Don’t they have eyes to see for themselves that the birds are causing nuisance in hawker centers??

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  • illiterate pap voters:

    when we were in pap island, more than 10 years ago, we were already heavy buyers via Internet.

    we try to avoid buying locally because for every S$ we spend, the bulk goes to subsidizing rent. only a small portion pays for the value of whatever we buy.

    we are lucky because we don’t live in pap island. we keep pink I/C only so that we get to vote OPPO whenever we get to vote.

    we are also very lucky we left early. we hear soon cotton sheep needs to pay tax when buying via Internet.

    this is really bad news. take a pen refill. each costs over a S$ when bought locally. we get 10 of them at a S$ when we buy via the Internet. the same with scotch tape. actually, the same with most Necessities.

    cotton sheep is so stupid. they pay more for the thing thinking paying more equals better quality. actually what cotton sheep is paying is not for value but pure pap inefficiency.

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  • xoxo:

    Yes indeed.
    Landlord$ are over-charging,thats for sure
    Rents are eating into profits.
    The landlord$ are the main beneficiarie$,the end-consumers foot the price but the hawkers find it *fruitless* to work so hard just to eke out a meagre income unless you are a top rated renown stall where you can also overpriced your goods and still have long queue?

    The G must look into this with sincerity.

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  • xoxo:

    The richest person in UK is worth only £18 Billions or USD 22 BILLION ONLY.
    Compare Tiny $g’s top billionaires possess nearly the same amount?

    Greed is rampant here.
    But no one beats U$a?
    Elon Mu$k,Jeff Bezos?
    Even Warren Buffett pales in compari$on.

    What a $-crazed world.

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  • BIG STORY :Stop the PAP Steal:

    The FW dorms made huge tons of money – bosses even can buy Sentosa bungalows to display.

    And SGpn taxes used by the Administration to clean up, to sanitize covid infections on behalf of these private businesses.

    Where in the world such frivolous treatment to the rich? Only Smart SG is Unique.

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    what a joke!!:
    The clowns only know how to implement polices to collect more $$ through “FINES” Good example is the return trays policy in hawker centers!!
    But, when come to solving the issue of birds nuisance in hawker centers, they are blind and deaf as if the nuisance of the birds never existed!!
    The birds nuisance in most hawker centers are getting from worse to worsest!!
    Just don’t know what the hell NEA officials are doing!! Don’t they have eyes to see for themselves that the birds are causing nuisance in hawker centers??

    I beg to be differ. The birds problem is caused by Singaporeans who order too much food and cannot finish it. Thus it attracts the birds and this cause problem.

    If Singaporeans did not order too much food and finish it with no more food (not even crumbs on the plate) do you think birds will come?

    See, it is Singaporeans fault. Not our great PAP fault.

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  • Pen refill ?:

    Montblanc ?

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  • myfirstscrew:

    Few things came to mind about PAP:

    1. They probably cant make money outside Singapore, perhaps massive losses

    2. They squeeze whatever they can control, so all these rental, COE, ERP, Utility, NTUC…… they keep pushing up prices

    3. They have no ideas how to grow the economy except massive immigration and price hikes.

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  • illiterate pap voters:

    myfirstscrew:
    Few things came to mind about PAP:

    1. They probably cant make money outside Singapore, perhaps massive losses

    2. They squeeze whatever they can control, so all these rental, COE, ERP, Utility, NTUC…… they keep pushing up prices

    3. They have no ideas how to grow the economy except massive immigration and price hikes.

    Very well said.

    Agree.

    But cotton sheep votes pap all the time.

    So the best thing to do is to let cotton sheep suffer.

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  • John Doe:

    myfirstscrew:
    Few things came to mind about PAP:

    1. They probably cant make money outside Singapore, perhaps massive losses

    2. They squeeze whatever they can control, so all these rental, COE, ERP, Utility, NTUC…… they keep pushing up prices

    3. They have no ideas how to grow the economy except massive immigration and price hikes.

    Your points are so bloody valid.

    Look AT ALL these PAP affiliated failures but became profitable, when changed ownership, when others pay a pittance to PAP to take over – Chartered Semiconductor, Neptune Orient Lines.

    The best part was Chartered was valued at $20 a SHARE during good times, and dropped to probably 0.80 cts or $2.00 when managed by ‘PAP’.

    Look at the $800,000.00 consultation fees spent on a trash compound.

    And here, the expensive PM whose wife exclaimed $600,000.00 is what? PEANUTS

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  • Harder Truths:

    There is no free market in $inkapore. Not when the Regime is the sole owner of every asset and sets prices it wants.

    This is the outcome of communism. The Regime demands the rent that fulfills its own agenda. Prices bear no relation to actual supply and demand. Soon it might be we will have to queue to get essential goods. This is the USSR before its collapse in the 1980′s.

    Make no mistake – a nation without a workable economy is already kaput. It might be this island will survive as a FT hub to draw out as much income as it can from foreigners, but for locals they are finished. Locals are the economic pariahs that will be the mandatory beggars serving whomsoever they are able to be employed by.

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  • many shops gone:

    Many shops already gone…

    Now the economy open but they are dead already.

    Sad.

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  • China bestest:

    This is what 3/4 oppressed Sinkies have to do to get some holidays. The fully oppressed Sinkies work every day. They don’t have the “luxury” to do this.

    Look to China, they have many week long holidays. China people don’t have to do this.

    Singaporeans R Free Riders:
    For Singapore to progress, We must be more creative and productive.
    ==================================================================
    BTW, case you are not awre, you are out of touch with reality you know.

    Singaporeans are already very creative..to give you one example.
    the day before public holiday, Singaporeans will creatively fall sick and go on MC.

    after holiday, Singaporeans will also creatively fall sick and go on MC.

    Friday 29 April 2022 Singaporean go MC
    Saturday 30 April 2022 Non working day
    Sunday 01 May 2022 Labour day
    Monday 02 May 2022 Public Holiday in lie of Labour Day
    Tuesday 03 May 2022 Public Holiday for Hari Raya
    Wednesday 04 May 2022 Singaporean take urgent leave.

    See, Singaporean creative or not ?

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  • Spineless Sinkie Syndrome:

    myfirstscrew:
    IT IS NOT JUST RENTAL, EVERYTHING HAS BEEN PUSHED FURTHER UP BY GOVT.

    Singapore has been pushing prices of all things up… from property, oil, coe, erp, utility, rental etc. All these hikes indirectly affect rental and also raise cost of living. And PAP keeps saying we cannot ask for higher pay because it will raise business cost, thats the hypocrisy.

    The largest landlord is govt, the other landlords are learning from the govt, keep raising rental every year.

    So this is inevitable honestly, unless the PAP is voted out.

    Spot on comment.

    The PAPies are The BIGGEST Landlords in this island. LOL.
    PAPies are the true “owners” of all HDBs (which is ~75% of residential market). They lease HDB to 99 year long-term Sinkie RENTERS, yet collect a HUGE Up-Front payment from Sinkies. Yes?/No? LOL.

    Then, when it comes to commercial properties, PAPies also have significant shares in Capitaland, Frasers, REITS etc. via that “HoLEE Jinx” “TermaSick” arm which had “Makan-ed”… I mean “funeIIed” all of Sinkies PUBLIC “Cheated Ponzi Funds” i.e.) C-the-P-the-F into their PAPies PRIVATE porkets liao lor. Yes?/No? LOL.

    Fact is, WHO forced up the reserve prices for land bids? PAPies mah.
    So, its not the developers who of course, will mark-up from the baseline, in order to make a profit.
    PAPies do NOT produce any goods or build the properties at all. They just pump up the baseline reserve land sale price, then OUTSOURCE to others to build it.

    Thus, PAPies are the top echelons promoting this RENTIER Economy – because its the EASIEST for them – LEAST work but get the World HIGHEST pay mah. Yes?/No? LOL.

    All the others you pointed out – GST, COE, ERP, electricity costs, petrol costs mostly either due to GREEDY PAPies profiteering or cavalier Mis-management of long-standing socio-economic problems with Sinkiepore. LOL.

    Unfortunately, Sinkies with SSS with still Luv their PAPies no matter what. So let it be… I alleady give up of Sinkies long ago, which is why I attribute the SSS syndrome to them. LOL.

    So don’t set your hopes up that they will be VTO. LOL.
    Don’t be surprised next “General eRection”, PAPies may instead WIN even HIGHER % lor. LOL.

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  • Spineless Sinkie Syndrome:

    Singaporeans R Free Riders: I beg to be differ. The birds problem is caused by Singaporeans who order too much food and cannot finish it. Thus it attracts the birds and this cause problem.

    If Singaporeans did not order too much food and finish it with no more food (not even crumbs on the plate) do you think birds will come?

    See, it is Singaporeans fault. Not our great PAP fault.

    @Singaporeans R Free Riders, You talking rubbish again?! LOL.

    Last round, I verbally slap you CB face until you head swollen like Goldfish, then you quietly ran away from me, but now come back again? LOL.

    Trying your best at DISTRACTION with irrelevant topics again… about what birds?
    People talking about our Swiss standard “Cost of Living”, but you purposely talk rubbish about “birds”? LOL.
    “Bird-brain” like you better shaddup or I may slap your CB-face again, ok? LOL.

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  • P Against People:

    This is not communism in China.
    It is also not political capitalism in US, where politicians are funded by and work for capitalists.
    It is “politician capitalism” where politicians are also the capitalists. There is of course no free market since the conjoined twins regulate supply and demand and price. Yes, this is a unique situation where supply, demand and price are all regulated by a single body. HDB is the perfect example.

    Harder Truths:
    There is no free market in $inkapore. Not when the Regime is the sole owner of every asset and sets prices it wants.

    This is the outcome of communism. The Regime demands the rent that fulfills its own agenda. Prices bear no relation to actual supply and demand. Soon it might be we will have to queue to get essential goods. This is the USSR before its collapse in the 1980′s.

    Make no mistake – a nation without a workable economy is already kaput. It might be this island will survive as a FT hub to draw out as much income as it can from foreigners, but for locals they are finished. Locals are the economic pariahs that will be the mandatory beggars serving whomsoever they are able to be employed by.

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  • Singaporeans R Free Rider:

    China bestest:
    This is what 3/4 oppressed Sinkies have to do to get some holidays. The fully oppressed Sinkies work every day. They don’t have the “luxury” to do this.

    Look to China, they have many week long holidays. China people don’t have to do this.

    Hahaha.. China had long holidays…hahaha

    The evil CCP make Chinese workers work from 9am to 9pm Monday to Saturday.
    While business and CCP rakes in huge profits, the Chinese workers earn pittance.

    Pathetic… don’t propagate fake news here ….

    Tech: It is a FACT that China has plenty of LONG HOLIDAYS, like their 10-1 and Lunar New Year. It is also true that some workers also work long hours, BUT they have OT pay according to the laws.

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  • Sialan:

    Singaporeans R Free Riders:
    For Singapore to progress, We must be more creative and productive.
    ==================================================================
    BTW, case you are not awre, you are out of touch with reality you know.

    Singaporeans are already very creative..to give you one example.
    the day before public holiday, Singaporeans will creatively fall sick and go on MC.

    after holiday, Singaporeans will also creatively fall sick and go on MC.

    Friday 29 April 2022 Singaporean go MC
    Saturday 30 April 2022 Non working day
    Sunday 01 May 2022 Labour day
    Monday 02 May 2022 Public Holiday in lie of Labour Day
    Tuesday 03 May 2022 Public Holiday for Hari Raya
    Wednesday 04 May 2022 Singaporean take urgent leave.

    See, Singaporean creative or not ?

    This type practised more than 30 years.

    Got some even worse. Don’t want to come to work say grandmother sick, or even grandmother mati.

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  • Partial truth?:

    @ I beg to be differ. The birds problem is caused by Singaporeans who order too much food and cannot finish it. Thus it attracts the birds and this cause problem.

    Hahaha.
    Birds also get smarter or lazier.
    Since theres free lunch at coffeeshops or hawkers. Whether its left overs or foods accidentally drop on the table/floor.

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  • PAP Don't Stop at Red lights:

    Spineless Sinkie Syndrome: @Singaporeans R Free Riders, You talking rubbish again?! LOL.

    Last round, I verbally slap you CB face until you head swollen like Goldfish, then you quietly ran away from me, but now come back again? LOL.

    Trying your best at DISTRACTION with irrelevant topics again… about what birds?
    People talking about our Swiss standard “Cost of Living”, but you purposely talk rubbish about “birds”? LOL.
    “Bird-brain” like you better shaddup or I may slap your CB-face again, ok? LOL.

    Well done. Supreme act. Cheers.

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  • theforgottongeneration:

    On hawker centers, it is only another example of the TOTAL FAILURE of the 3G team. They only know how to lip-service Singaporeans must keep learning and upgrading, yet they are the most COMPLACENT and SUPER-LAZY (aka self-entitling) lot. What have they done to our hawker centers in the last 20+ years? Only know how to milk our hawker food for Unesco points – i.e. just a cheap way to try to deceive THEMSELVES that they are worthy of their Ownself Award Ownself Million$ pay. Did it help the biggest stakeholders – our hawkers?

    Years back, I had already pointed out our hawker center model needs to evolve – yet all the incompetents did was to build nicer 1980-90′s concept hawker centers. Example: what had they done to nurture a culture of having clean tables after one’s meals? Yup the lazy ways – by employing cheap labor to clear tables and recently (in desperate by a certain useless minister) by mandating diners to clear their own plates … and that after 20+ years of CBL by the most expensive PM/ministers in the world. You need about 2+ years to nurture a new “culture” like civil-mindedness to (say) self-clear own plates (“taking ownership”) and maybe also 5-10 years to develop INCREMENTAL technologies to run the hawker centers better. Yet WHERE IS THE LEADERSHIP – having wasted 20 years still stuck at 1990′s model, several rounds of wayang rotating several minister-in-charge (yet achieving nothing), but drawing 2090-era million$ salary. Still wonder why our Golden Prince given a super-long runway still cannot fly, hor?

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  • theforgottongeneration:

    Sialan: This type practised more than 30 years.

    Got some even worse. Don’t want to come to work say grandmother sick, or even grandmother mati.

    No wonder our parliament sessions always seem very empty, hor.

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  • BIG READ :Stop the PAP Steal:

    Think on this carefully. Seriously decide what really has the PAP done to the SG economy, say, broadly over the last 10,20 years.

    Seagate the Gorilla employer PACKED their bags, dismantled all their drive spindles and motors SO DID Maxtor, Western D, Micropolis, and the rest of the apes.

    And tailing these Hard DD makers gorilla’s, were 100s of 1000s of mold makers, plastic precision parts makers, incl carton makers and anti static materials importers.

    Look at the PAP simply – does the PAP has any surgical solutions to enhanced and up the tech levels of our economy?

    Yes? No?

    No. The PAP LAZILY only DID 2 things TO ENJOY their MILLION DOLLARS SALARIES TO RUSE SGpns they are EXPENSIVE talents – establish tgther rent controls, rent increases to COLLECT more MONEY.

    2nd – TELLING SGpns they invite RICH people stay here to CREATE JOBS.

    Summary – the PAP DO NOT know how to SURGICALLY managed the SGpn.

    The PAP only HAVE AND USED BLUNT INSTRUMENTS.

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  • John Doe:

    Partial truth?:
    @ I beg to be differ. The birds problem is caused by Singaporeans who order too much food and cannot finish it. Thus it attracts the birds and this cause problem.

    Hahaha.
    Birds also get smarter or lazier.
    Since theres free lunch at coffeeshops or hawkers. Whether its left overs or foods accidentally drop on the table/floor.

    Please include at times after couple of mouthfuls the food taste bland or bad which happens often as generally much of the quality of hawker foods stds has dropped bcz nowadays many foreigners do the cooking which u shd know.

    Besides, portions offered varies, non standardised. Today s portion u order would be diff from tmrw if u are observant.

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  • Fake Info from SSS:

    Spineless Sinkie Syndrome: @Singaporeans R Free Riders, You talking rubbish again?! LOL.

    Last round, I verbally slap you CB face until you head swollen like Goldfish, then you quietly ran away from me, but now come back again? LOL.

    Trying your best at DISTRACTION with irrelevant topics again… about what birds?
    People talking about our Swiss standard “Cost of Living”, but you purposely talk rubbish about “birds”? LOL.
    “Bird-brain” like you better shaddup or I may slap your CB-face again, ok? LOL.

    @ SSS
    Not CB-face lah. After many years of carrying pappy here, should look more ‘lampar’ than CB.

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