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Enlightening Conversation With New Citizen And PR

Recently, I had chance to use a service and met two young boys. From their accent, I thought they were mixed local but turned out two boys were Pinoy descent. One boy was born here, the parents moved here more than 20 years ago, he served NS and other one, the parents are PRs and the son also given PR, he is not born here but in Philippines. So this PR boy is given a scholarship in NTU, never served NS. So we can conclude many foreigners are given scholarship without need to serve NS. So how about locals being deny vacancy at local universities and some third world inferior college qualification can easily be admitted. This is pretty unfair for many locals who studied and fought hard, served the nation but vacancies were reserved for foreigners.

The next thing is quite exciting, the other local boy born here told me his parents already told him to plan to leave Singapore for Australia as soon as he finished his degree. He said they all understand Singapore cannot make it, everything will be sky price, people have to work and pay all the way, there is no room for retirement plus many PMETs will be losing their jobs after certain age. Seems like new citizens also understand the problems we are facing. The next shock is the PR boy also planning to leave Singapore, he said he agrees with the observations from many locals including his parents. He added many other places such as Canada, UK and Australia also better than here, very difficult to survive in Singapore.

Singapore govt complains that locals are dumbs and foreigners are smarter, I can tell you this is true. They are only 22 or 23, they already know what Singapore is all about. But again, their parents already told them to plan to exit Singapore. They even added, already had their friends and relatives awaiting for them to go there.

The govt said we need foreigners for two key things:
1. Aging Population
2. Foreign Talent – more hard striving, speak better English and smarter.

They insisted it is not for political allegiance. But what I can see here is, they gave them PRs and new citizenships so easily. On top, inferior quality college graduates from third world can get scholarships so easily in Singapore, albeit a third years bond to lock them in to convert to PRs and new citizens. You see the ruse?

Recently, the govt said there is lack of male enlistees for NS. Isn’t this a big joke? After importing a few millions of foreigners and converting so many to PRs and new citizens, they still tell you we don’t have enough males to do NS? The second big joke is they still complain about aging population. Did they say we need foreigners because of aging issues but why aging issue is still a big problem? Who did they import? Foreigners above 40s are converted to locals and they bring their aged parents and they still complain! Isn’t it an irony?

My friends those die hards and internet brigades keep singing nice tunes of this govt but many already know this place cannot make it. And the truth is new citizens also see this coming!!! Do you agree?!

 

Jamie Tan

 

 

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38 Responses to “Enlightening Conversation With New Citizen And PR”

  • Pay And Pay:

    Boohoo… No one to blame except stinkies themselves who are gutless and continue to vote for PAP. Stop your KPKB and suffer for u deserve what you voted for

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  • Cancel the PAP:

    Dishonorable leadership has thrived SG.

    No Blame Culture has ENSHRINED in SG politics as de facto management.

    Both has BEGUN to have DEADLY TERMINAL CONSEQUENCES to DESTROY Singaporeans GRADUALLY into DEGENERATION into a SLUM and, PROBABLY extinction, BACK to where when Sir Stamford set foot decades ago.

    Good luck SG – Loong said en bloc has worked, served SG well.

    But the missing truth was, previously and NOW are entirely different.

    Previously NO DISHONOUR rules, NOW Dishonor is the template, norm standard.
    Previously leaders were selfless. Now leaders are selfish.

    Previously within is inside, NOW WITHIN is OUTSIDE.

    Previously discussion on Indians, in particular, is almost neutral, no bias connotations, now discussion on Indians is RASCIST.

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  • labour market is tight:

    // Seems like new citizens also understand the problems we are facing. The next shock is the PR boy also planning to leave Singapore, he said he agrees with the observations from many locals including his parents.//

    aiyoh. once FTs understand the situation here, they will also kpkb ?? even low wage cleaners (FTs) will also want to slide upward to a better job (kopi tiam F&B or something even better ???) ??? perhaps the reason why businesses keep on kpkb that the labour market is tight ???

    //Recently, the govt said there is lack of male enlistees for NS. Isn’t this a big joke? After importing a few millions of foreigners and converting so many to PRs and new citizens, they still tell you we don’t have enough males to do NS?//

    if daft sinkies listen too much from the 160th media standard, many will become ‘zombies” and stupig ??? so many people, still labour market is tight (maybe tight because businesses want supermen quality but paid the level of interns ??) ???

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  • myfirstscrew:

    With poorer and lousier policies, popularity has deteriorated especially Pinky took over. The deterioration started with Ah Goh and got worst under Pinky. As you can see these days, citizens go online to insult ministers calling them lap dogs and even one threatened Pinky recently that ended being taken in. This sums up the growing discontent with this party. Basically, the PAPPY strategy was to replace locals who are beginning to be disgruntled with new citizens from more than 20 years.

    What we have imported are mainly from third world countries who appreciated the jobs and security rolled out in red carpet and branding them as talents. From inferior or third rated universities, they got good PMET jobs in Singapore and fast treked to be PRs and new citizens. Of course, their loyalty go to the party who let them in and converted them. The leaders have given much of our local lunch to these imports and often using media and speech to ask locals to stop studying further and downgrade to hawkers, self employed, PHV drivers or food delivery. With such arrangement, it is hard to not to believe why they have been losing ground.

    These third world foreigners came but they were not doctrined by the system, they are opportunists seeking better life, many avoided NS and many of their sons also avoided NS successfully. This explains why they said not enough male enlistees even after importing a few millions of them.

    The last part is these foreigners had let tough life back at their hometown, their survival instincts are better, this article explains correctly why they are already seeing the problems of Singapore and making plans early even for their kids. While Singaporeans are easily brainwashed or hoodwinked by the twisted and politically aligned news and social media sponsored by ruling, they already have back up plans and understand the whole situation a lot better than locals.

    We are going to be like Hong Kong soon where there is no middle class, it will be rich and poor, and poor people will need to live in cage as property prices will be sky since we are still importing and converting and prices of BTOs have crossed millions. Thanks to the dumb 61% or locals who are highly educated but mostly dumb.

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  • P Against People:

    Now that you are enlightened, what are you going to do? Run or fight, or sleep through?

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  • Hhh:

    Me at swimming pool bus stop

    1. PRC
    2. PINOY
    3. MALAYSIAN

    ALL GOT KIDS.

    THANKS TO PAPPY.

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  • theforgottongeneration:

    Recall even LKY, when he saw how the 3G team was using importing of population to solve the TFR/aging issues, said: “We will be lucky if 30% of them decided to stay.”

    Now after 18+years of Loong’s ‘long-runway-but-still-cannot-fly’ policies, there should be enough data to show how many New Citizens and/or PRs do stay long enough so that their sons actually did NS. 30% or less? or 90+%? CCS once said we have BATTALIONS of such ppl doing NS each year. Just release the data for Singaporeans to see, lor. Why are they so afraid to throw out some data? Afraid for Singaporeans to see how many Free Riders that the pappies have imported?

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  • xoxo:

    Sg,effectively,is merely used as a *stepping stone* by many mercenary FTs/PRs.
    To be honest ,it is not valued as a country of choice by most of these FREE-RIDER$ which the FT POLICY helps dump here to a great extent.
    Oh,*they* claim they love in Singapore but in truth,they only love ($)ingapore.
    Take away the ($) ,they will tell the truth.⅗

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  • xoxo:

    To be frank,i used to love Singapore but not anymore!

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  • Trust only myself:

    Only the liars choose not to know the problem when smart locals know these new citizens are Free Riders without loyalty……get them to serve some form of NS even from age 30 and see what happen……

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  • Stupid Singaporeans Vote PAP:

    To all the people here, don’t blame PAP, FT, kpkb, complian oe anyone. Sinkies are simply the stupidest stupid in the whole wide universe.

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    This is just petty market rant or to be precise Opposition fake news … not to be taken seriously unless whole island every Singaporeans think this way.

    Just like the 2019 Hong Kong protest, does the protestors represent all Hong Kees ?

    Coward Hong Kees protestors dare not take off mask when challenge by granny.
    https://bit.ly/3IVZOwS

    If you vote out PAP, Hong Kee gangsters and hooligans will rule the street.

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    SO many talk cawk sing song here but dare not show face to lead?

    Why? Because they are unclean ? They are gangster ? They are cheater ?

    Wife caught husband cheating ..hahaha
    https://bit.ly/3v5sNZi

    Just a simple question: how many donated to TRE ? hahahahahahahaha

    TRE only need $40K to continue operation but as of now the donated amount is less than 10K. hahahahahahahaha

    Oppositions are truly talk cawk sing song king…. do nothing except whining
    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    No one is willing to charge at the frontline but expect Andrew to do it ?

    Luckily Andrew is smarter than Ukrainian President Zelensky and refuse to be make use of as canon fodders.

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  • Temusik Patriot:

    I personally know couples from China,Vietnam & India heading for Canada & Australia after recieving their Red Book not Moa’s ToTs but Mouse tot…reason??? Avoid NS

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  • SINGAROAR:

    Without our passports Canada, Australia, New Zealand etc, will not accept these third world foreigners. So they enter Singapore, get the HDB and the scholarships to our universities, complete the bond term, apply overseas for citizenship, sell the HDB, empty the CPF and scoot from Singapore. We, true blue citizens lose over and over because the HDB price is driven up by demand created by new citizens and PRS who do not intend to live here for life. Our children lose out once again in the universities as nos. are limited. Japan has an ageing population but the govt. is not opening its doors to new citizens. There is really no need to have new citizens continuously. Foreigners can come here, work and leave once their contract ends. If foreign spouses want citizenships, give it to them when they have children. Be like Switzerland. LKY made our passport valuable. He was extremely selective of the foreigners who wanted to live here permanently. Under LHL, even prostitutes can get citizenships and pinoys who are listed as married in the Philippines can make false declarations and marry Singaporeans without any legal repercussions from our law Ministry. So we have also lost the Law and order we once had. If we want this to end, we have to vote in the opposition so that our families can be protected.

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  • Evereadyly:

    Not only I cannot produces own food,

    I can,t even COOK!

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  • "We" need them:

    This party is surviving by new votes. That is the only one reason for getting so many foreigners in.

    Old Sinkies already want to get rid of PAP, but our votes are overwhelmed by the new votes.

    SINGAROAR:
    Without our passports Canada, Australia, New Zealand etc, will not accept these third world foreigners. So they enter Singapore, get the HDB and the scholarships to our universities, complete the bond term, apply overseas for citizenship, sell the HDB, empty the CPF and scoot from Singapore. We, true blue citizens lose over and over because the HDB price is driven up by demand created by new citizens and PRS who do not intend to live here for life. Our children lose out once again in the universities as nos. are limited. Japan has an ageing population but the govt. is not opening its doors to new citizens. There is really no need to have new citizens continuously. Foreigners can come here, work and leave once their contract ends. If foreign spouses want citizenships, give it to them when they have children. Be like Switzerland. LKY made our passport valuable. He was extremely selective of the foreigners who wanted to live here permanently. Under LHL, even prostitutes can get citizenships and pinoys who are listed as married in the Philippines can make false declarations and marry Singaporeans without any legal repercussions from our law Ministry. So we have also lost the Law and order we once had. If we want this to end, we have to vote in the opposition so that our families can be protected.

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  • ah seng:

    61% voted for this…. we are being replaced by foreigners.

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  • Harder Truths:

    ah seng:
    61% voted for this…. we are being replaced by foreigners.

    Already replaced. $inkies who did not vote Regime – better to leave now or you will regret for the rest of your life.

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  • 2Daft2Live:

    The truth is many PRs are smart enough not to give up their native nationalities for the pink IC. Personally, I have come across a number of professional Malaysians working in Singapore who are doing very well. Unlike the earlier generations of Malaysians, many are not keen on giving up their citizenships. Most of them will work for as long as they can in SG and eventually retire handsomely in Malaysia.

    Frankly, I am happy for these people altho some may call them opportunistic. Me, I think they are just looking out for their interests….a simple thing that the average Singaporeans can’t even do anymore because they had been brainwashed stupid.

    Go where there’s opportunities. Don’t be shy and seize the day! As long as nothing illegal is done, whether people call you smart or opportunistic or whatever, remember you are not breaking the law. Everyone has a right to look out for themselves…..unfortunately, a simple thing that idiots can’t even do properly.

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  • Soccerbetting2:

    I read some internal conversations between different players in a game that I played.One conversation says India are very funny and purchase cheap gas from Russia to sell it to Europe.Another conversation suggest both Greece and Croatia may be on Russia black list. Don’t know such rumours are true or not.If India is really selling most of the cheap gas purchased from Russia back to Europe,then India is making lots of money profits.And if Singapore is in any way buying expensive gas from Europe ,ask why India did not sell cheap gas to Singapore since both Singapore and India are “good friends” if you ever watch one of Bakakrishnan tik tok video conversation on India.So that is why I have say before that our cost keep rising is not mainly due to Russia war !It is all some evil people are choosing how to make more evil women b**** backside money for their own pockets !

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  • Stupid Singaporeans Vote PAP:

    There must be an association out there for scammers. Their sharing is Sinkies are the most brainwashed & stupidest yet most greedy people on earth. Perfect candidate meeting all requirements.

    Millions have been lost by greedies to scammers. S$32M to two smart foreigners taking up citizenship, disguising themselves as true blue got away their money. Bet you, it will not stop. More millions will be lost cause the stupids keep repeatingly voting the same government who gave them hell is an ideal candidate to scammers.

    Such people never learn are the most stupid. Don’t blame PAP!

    2Daft2Live:
    The truth is many PRs are smart enough not to give up their native nationalities for the pink IC. Personally, I have come across a number of professional Malaysians working in Singapore who are doing very well. Unlike the earlier generations of Malaysians, many are not keen on giving up their citizenships. Most of them will work for as long as they can in SG and eventually retire handsomely in Malaysia.

    Frankly, I am happy for these people altho some may call them opportunistic. Me, I think they are just looking out for their interests….a simple thing that the average Singaporeans can’t even do anymore because they had been brainwashed stupid.

    Go where there’s opportunities. Don’t be shy and seize the day! As long as nothing illegal is done, whether people call you smart or opportunistic or whatever, remember you are not breaking the law. Everyone has a right to look out for themselves…..unfortunately, a simple thing that idiots can’t even do properly.

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  • Naive Politician:

    Good friend drops soap also screw. What’s more is only “good friend”?

    Soccerbetting2:
    I read some internal conversations between different players in a game that I played.One conversation says India are very funny and purchase cheap gas from Russia to sell it to Europe.Another conversation suggest both Greece and Croatia may be on Russia black list. Don’t know such rumours are true or not.If India is really selling most of the cheap gas purchased from Russia back to Europe,then India is making lots of money profits.And if Singapore is in any way buying expensive gas from Europe ,ask why India did not sell cheap gas to Singapore since both Singapore and India are “good friends” if you ever watch one of Bakakrishnan tik tok video conversation on India.So that is why I have say before that our cost keep rising is not mainly due to Russia war !It is all some evil people are choosing how to make more evil women b**** backside money for their own pockets !

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  • SINGAROTTED:

    Dear SINGAROAR

    You naive or what? Lol
    It sounds to me the same as “Vote PAP for more GOOD Years”.

    Oppo use what to protect ‘families’?
    Can they be big enough to change our constitution to ORIGINAL?
    Will they?
    Or they will continue the MIW legacies, conveniently?

    Up till today I have not heard any oppo talk about getting back our original constitution.

    And do you know how much is needed to change constitution?
    Our last few generations ignorantly gave blank cheque for the constitution to be alter, it changed our basic citizen rights, decentralized power to each individual ministries and greater control and watch over individuals.

    All the ‘signs’ you see today is the result change of fundamentals.
    The generations of stupid Singaporean did not see (or choose not to see) that, and yet, the newer TRUBLUE so call Singaporean are conditioned by education and numbed not to see it.

    You roar and roar, roar and pissed on the wrong patch of grass.

    SINGAROAR:
    If we want this to end, we have to vote in the opposition so that our families can be protected.

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  • Singaporean R Free Rider:

    SINGAROTTED: You roar and roar, roar and pissed on the wrong patch of grass.

    Hahahaha … hilarious

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  • Orang kayu kapala:

    Spoke only to two people from the Philippines and this mei mei knows exactly the thinking of millions in Sinkiland?

    Only “tao ka lip chwee “ ones will go along!

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  • Singaporean R Free Rider:

    Orang kayu kapala:
    Spoke only to two people from the Philippines and this mei mei knows exactly the thinking of millions in Sinkiland?

    Only “tao ka lip chwee “ ones will go along!

    Well said..clap..clap..well said

    This is just petty market rant or to be precise Opposition fake news … not to be taken seriously unless whole island every Singaporeans think this way.

    Just like the 2019 Hong Kong protest, does the protestors represent all Hong Kees ?

    Coward Hong Kees protestors dare not take off mask when challenge by granny.
    https://bit.ly/3IVZOwS

    If you vote out PAP, Hong Kee gangsters and hooligans and mobs will rule the street.

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  • Jus:

    https://www.facebook.com/592308557475467/posts/pfbid0BPiSiTEKaL68qyeNf4bDZgbnxWh6FYmSXADdeycsCF2TJFH1L3pbhrD7bMjyUoqAl/

    Multiple survey findings had revealed that “more than one in five youths” struggle with career opportunities, and desire support for career guidance and planning.

    To be hawkers and care givers?

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  • Dee:
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  • Foreigners everywhere:

    The legs of massive immigration wide open

    Foreigners everywhere

    Crime rates up – new citizens aka Singaporeans. Ex China shoe salesman ran away with $32M. 3AC ex China man disappeared with other 2 ang mo.

    RECORD BTO $ above million to new citizens

    IPS survey 90% trusted govt to some extent. LOL Trust that they continue to open their legs to massive immigration?

    NTUC survey said young people worried about jobs.

    STIMES JOBS DOUBLED.

    One said so many freaking jobs for Singaporeans, Singaporean youth worried no jobs.

    Contradicting stories.

    SOMEONE SO ANGRY AND threatened Pinky.

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  • Smart Nation:

    Singaporeans are outsmarted by foreigners. Foreign parent and their kids are granted citizenship and/or PR by the PAP govt. They take on local jobs, buy HDB flats and later sell them for a profit. Their kids get a good foundational education in SG schools and then leave for another country to avoid enlistment, and there is nothing the govt can do about it because these are still foreign citizens. Why is the govt not making their parents pay back for their kid’s education? Why were they not made to sign an under-taking before giving them citizenship or PR, that if their kids default on NS, they would have to pay back the full-cost of their children’s education? Hold their HDB flat or property as guarantee until their kids have done NS, and if they sell them prior to enlistment, hold back a sum as a bond until their kids finished NS or forfeit the money if they default. In the past, the govt expected that of SGpn parents by way of a guarantor. My guess is the PAP is not serious about NS for PRs and New Citizens. But they treat locals more harshly, with fines, imprisonment, or surrender of citizenship.

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  • Singaporean R Free Ride:

    Smart Nation: Singaporeans are outsmarted by foreigners.

    Your statement is not correct.

    It should be 10 years series templated Singaporeans with no hands on and ground level experience are outsmarted by foreigners.

    Though I also use 10 years series to pass my exam but I am willing to start from ground level and get my hand dirty.

    As such, I am able to outsmart both bookworm Singaporeans and foreigners.

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  • idontbelieveinccpbs:

    My friend told me, one local start up by few NTU grads on 3D printing was eventually invested by Temasick….. These grads were formerly Malaysians, 1 ang mo.. later they brought all their FT friends into the company. Temasick was so glad that this FT infested company (many turned into new Singaporeans) is going to be major success, sent President Milo to go shake hands and visit. These FTs turned new citizens nearly sank the company after 2 years, Temasick had to step in… and what did they do? They hired another few ang mos…….. and the head of design was Vietnamese new citizen from NTU… who could not even design IC board and used wire wrapping for their product. LOL So these ang mos aka the foreign talents together with the new citizens sank the company even further. The company was put on sale…. LOL Now you know why they keep changing C_PF policies. Then someone they gotten a LOCAL SINGAPORE to come fix the company product issue as the FT clowns and new citizens could not deliver any decent product. The LOCAL SINGAPORE FIXED THE PRODUCT ISSUE in few months, now the company managed to avoid being sold off. The story is, all these govt bs about foreigners better than Singaporeans are just to justify their massive open leg policies to import lousy quality foreigners to convert to PRs and new citizens.

    This also explains why now Singapore quality has dropped drastically and KPI has been removed or changed to accommodate poorer quality outcome, mostly due to inferior quality third world PMETs plying their trade in SG and becoming locals via PRs and new citizenships. As you can see; expressway collapses, bank scams, flooding, corruption increasing…. all because they have flooded this country with all kind of FTrash.

    Thanks to 61% who voted for this.

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    idontbelieveinccpbs: My friend told me, one local start up by few NTU grads on 3D printing was eventually invested by Temasick….. These grads were formerly Malaysians, 1 ang mo.. later they brought all their FT friends into the company. Temasick was so glad that this FT infested company (many turned into new Singaporeans) is going to be major success, sent President Milo to go shake hands and visit.

    This is a fake story with aims to discredit out great PAP.

    Anyone can come up such a fake story without providing proof like company name, staff names (since writer claim to know them)

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  • idontbelieveinccpbs:

    @Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    anything to u is fake?
    1. Train break down fake?
    2. Ponding once in 50 years fake?
    3. SGX down few times by Pinoy CTO fake?
    4. Scams by New citizens $32M and 3AC also fake
    5. Yang Yin scammed Singaporean lady millions also fake
    6. Expressways collapsed also fake
    7. Millions of foreigners imported into SG fake
    8. New citizens increased by millions also fake
    9. PMETs becoming PHV or food delivery fake

    Yeah all fake, only u real.

    LOL

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  • ah seng:

    My friend company in Malaysia said his staffs moving to Singapore!!! He said Singapore can make a lot of money!!!

    Number 1 migrants are Malaysian and more are coming!!!

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  • annelise:

    so WHO ARE THE REAL FREERIDERS as you know who called those who didnt vote his party?????

    their eyes still closed or dont want to see the truth

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  • talented or competent:

    //My friend company in Malaysia said his staffs moving to Singapore!!! He said Singapore can make a lot of money!!!//

    Strong sgd currency ???? labour arbitrage ??? but the doggy gang (many interested parties & their kaki lang ??) will turn the table around to say daft sinkies are “not talented or competent” enough ??? now so-called converted new citizens will choose their own kaki lang (to reach enough critical mass) to give good old daft sinkies a “BIG KICK” ??? daft sinkies are so brainwashed to naively welcome so many “talents” (many just average workers) NOT knowing that these “foreign talents” are not so welcoming of daft sinkies ????

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