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Who I F or don’t F is none of your business

One of the scariest things about the 377A debate is that it often reveals a national obsession with a**holes. If you scroll through enough forums, you will notice a strange belief that has been placed in the national psyche, which is a belief that there is an evil conspiracy by the West to make Singapore decay by allowing gay people to have sex.

Whenever I read these comments, I am inevitably reminded of one of the greatest lines in cinematic history, which was “Who I f**k and who I don’t f**k is none of your f**king business,” which came from the movie “The Fabulous Baker Boys,” staring Bo and Jeff Bridges alongside Michelle Pfeiffer.

Our obsession with what other people get up to in the privacy of the bedroom has become hysterical and it would be funny if we did not have serious social issues that need to be addressed. OK, I get that not everyone is going to be comfortable with the very idea of two guys in a relationship. However, while that idea might not be the most comfortable to entertain, there is no reason why two consenting adults should be considered criminal in the eyes of the law (despite the government’s promise not to enforce it). At the same time, the homosexual community needs to understand that things are not going to change overnight and making people comfortable with your choices is going to get you further than antagonizing them.

So, now that the most useless and pointless of laws is going to be repealed, its time for the us to move on. The homosexual community should celebrate a small victory and then move onto the next battle, which is to get the rest of society ready to accept that homosexual unions need legal protections, which was a point that was ironically raised on social media by Ms. Stephanie Thio, joint-managing partner of TSMP Law.

On the other hand, our “religious” community needs to understand that their faith’s require them to be so much more than the police of other people’s bedroom activities. If you take the Christian Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John) for example, you will notice that Jesus was more interested in feeding the poor and healing the sick than who f**ed who. Jesus was not the only great teacher obsessed with relieving suffering. In Islam, there is a belief that God does not intend poverty for people and Muslims are obliged to donate towards the less fortunate.

Much as the government may not want to admit it, we have a growing underclass and there are plenty of people that have fallen through the cracks of our glorious system. Thanks to Covid, we have migrant workers who do our back breaking work in return for the right to live in places where we would not step into unless we were in a hazmat suite. You have employers who take pride in not paying such workers.

If you want to limit the scope to born and bred Singaporeans, look at the plight of many of our elderly, who make up an unhealthy portion of the homeless and hungry. Go into any fast-food joint and you will inevitably see an elderly person doing the heavy lifting because, well they need something to pay for their old age.

Sure, our number of horribly poor may be less than many other places but you consider the fact that we are one of the “richest” nations on a per capita basis, there is no reason why our own people, from the hardest working generation, digging through trash cans to survive.

There are enough horror stories of how many of these people ended up that way because the kids they helped make into success stories screwed them. I don’t know about you but each one of these horror stories shows that there was a decay in values somewhere along the line and like or not, this was happening in Singapore long before the government entertained the idea of repealing 377A.

This is where our religious organisations need to step up. They have “moral” authority, financial means, and a network to get things done. Think about someone like Professor Thio Li-Ann, who is by all accounts a brilliant scholar of laws. Can you imagine if someone of her capabilities focused on making the law protect us when we are at our most vulnerable (in our old age) instead of worrying about everyone’s a***hole being poked. Think of Joseph Prince of New Creation Church, who is clearly very gifted when it comes to raising money (I believe his record is $21 million in 24 hours) to build bigger and better facilities for his church and ensuring that the homeless have shelter.

Think about how much better we would be if the people who claimed to speak for God focused a little less on who was f***who and the plight of those who were being f**ed by the system. This was what Jesus was focused on and we need to return to this basic when it comes to those who claim to be close speak for the Almighty.

 

Tang Li

*Although I’ve been based mainly in Singapore for nearly two decades, I’ve had the privilege of being able meet people who have crossed borders and cultures. I’ve befriended ministers and ambassadors and worked on projects involving a former head of state. Yet, at the same time, I’ve had the privilege of befriending migrant labourers and former convicts. All of them have a story to tell. All of them add to the fabric of life. I hope to express the stories that inspire us to create life as it should be.

 

 

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50 Responses to “Who I F or don’t F is none of your business”

  • panyusg:

    The focus on gay sex is so outdated in today’s situation of Wars, Diseases, Corruption, Oppression, State-sponsored murders, Drugs, Prostitution, Porn and many other happenings.

    HIV is a controversal topic since since its “discovery” in the late 1980s. Untold numbers have committed suicide out of depression when told they have HIV. That law on disclosure to your sex partner needs to be looked at too.

    Medical science is laced with controversies.

    Time to move on.

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  • Charch and Bieble:
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  • Destitute Sgs:

    The growing number of poor elderly is visible everywhere especially where the crowd is: at MRT stations, at market places, hawker centres, etc. Elderly peddling tissue paper, collecting cans, is a perfectly pathetic scenario of people who are left behind in a rich country.

    It’s true and can never be POFMAd.

    Shouldn’t CDC/MSF and/or the relevant authorities jointly make every effort to eradicate this societal enigma? Is giving $100 CDC vouchers enough? ($100 out of $23k?)

    Nay,it’s a meagre sum just to pacify crying infants in the pangs of hunger.

    Well, looks like the PioneerDAS too shall remain at $100/mth despite the runaway inflation. And 8 years have passed since the scheme was introduced…

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  • xoxo:

    You obviously *Pick and choose* what suit you from the Great Teachers’ teachings just to justify your own wayward preferences.

    But still who am i to judge ?
    You decide your own fate.
    Just dont cause harm to others and to society.
    If you want to poke backsides and get your backside poked,you bear your own consequences ,good or bad.

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  • Do more:

    All should do more for the poor and the elderly, especially MSF.As for the gay, can accept but not promoted.
    Anyway Mankind need babies to survive…a reality.

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  • theforgottongeneration:

    Seriously this author should read more widely and maybe enroll in some theology classes before shooting off strawmen arguments, clearly with an axe to grind.

    There is a reason why diseases like HIV, Aids, etc… are more prevalent in some groups of any general populate. Even the USA has reserved the (current) limited stock of Monkeypox vaccines for the LGBTs. So Jesus didn’t care who f**k who or what; but medicial authorities obviously do – better than Jesus, hor? The LGBTs even self-advising its members to restrain from f**king too much for the moment, until the Monkeypox situation is better understood. Again LGBTs care who they f**k, but not Jesus, hor? Very clear the author has an anti-religous agenda, and certainly not an authority on f**king, hor.

    I am certainly not a theologist – just using common sense. The Christians believe Jesus taught for about 3 years. Yet the bible books (author quoting Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John) probably can be read in ONE day. Meaning there is MUCH, MUCH, MUCH that Jesus would had taught which are not recorded by the bible writers (assuming Jesus worked 8 hours each day, excluding weekends). So it is extremely presumptuous (actually to the point of stupidity) to say Jesus didn’t care/taught about who f**k who. Maybe he did and very frequently too, but the bible writers were too polite to include that in their text. Apparently Tang Li has no such politeness, nor qualms about hitting the relgious camps just to advance his own bigotted (and totally unfounded) views.

    (FYI, for those interested – theologists think the physical length of the parchment scroll at that time was the limiting factor why the bible books were short (probably expensive too). The writers therefore didn’t have much real space to write on – hence including f**king is probably a total waste. A preacher also probably wouldn’t want to haul several 10-kg scrolls around when moving from place to place. Remember they didn’t have photocopy machines, FB, Whatsapp, Twitter, TikTok, etc… in that era.)

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  • panyusg:

    Destitute Sgs:
    The growing number of poor elderly is visible everywhere especially where the crowd is: at MRT stations, at market places, hawker centres, etc. Elderly peddling tissue paper, collecting cans, is a perfectly pathetic scenario of people who are left behind in a rich country.

    It’s true and can never be POFMAd.

    Shouldn’t CDC/MSF and/or the relevant authorities jointly make every effort to eradicate this societal enigma? Is giving $100 CDC vouchers enough? ($100 out of $23k?)

    Nay,it’s a meagre sum just to pacify crying infants in the pangs of hunger.

    Well, looks like the PioneerDAS too shall remain at $100/mth despite the runaway inflation. And 8 years have passed since the scheme was introduced…

    Well said. POFMA is a blunt weapon with the threat of fines and imprisoment. No Asean country is resorting POFMA.

    As for the elderly peddling tissue paper, collecting trash, Government needs to provide take-away provisions. Those who can walk i.e. come out to peddle tissue paper can also use the excursion to the void deck as an excercise to pick up provisions several times a week.

    The elderly who cannot leave their homes due to infirmities can register for home delivery. Good to balance some extent of self-effort with government aid.

    I see much money being poured into road repairs just to give the impression that Singapore has no pot-holes. Why not just patch temporarily and do the major repaving till much later?

    I see major repaving at least three times a year in my neighborhood. The comment is that a high level Minister lives in the area…surely that cannot be reason for expensive repaving that involves removing existing asphalt, repaving, compacting, etc. Expensive when the old folks are struggling to buy food.

    I also see digging out roadside greenery to replant just to spend the budget perhaps.

    And I see a contractor coming several days a week just to sweep some sand on a short portion of the Ulu Pandan Canal. Totally unnecessary and cost $$$

    I hope the relevant Ministers and LW spend more time outdoors during active work hours and see for themselves the wastage…enormous.

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  • panyusg:

    theforgottongeneration:
    Seriously this author should read more widely and maybe enroll in some theology classes before shooting off strawmen arguments, clearly with an axe to grind.

    There is a reason why diseases like HIV, Aids, etc… are more prevalent in some groups of any general populate. Even the USA has reserved the (current) limited stock of Monkeypox vaccines for the LGBTs. So Jesus didn’t care who f**k who or what; but medicial authorities obviously do – better than Jesus, hor? The LGBTs even self-advising its members to restrain from f**king too much for the moment, until the Monkeypox situation is better understood. Again LGBTs care who they f**k, but not Jesus, hor? Very clear the author has an anti-religous agenda, and certainly not an authority on f**king, hor.

    I am certainly not a theologist – just using common sense. The Christians believe Jesus taught for about 3 years. Yet the bible books (author quoting Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John) probably can be read in ONE day. Meaning there is MUCH, MUCH, MUCH that Jesus would had taught which are not recorded by the bible writers (assuming Jesus worked 8 hours each day, excluding weekends). So it is extremely presumptuous (actually to the point of stupidity) to say Jesus didn’t care/taught about who f**k who. Maybe he did and very frequently too, but the bible writers were too polite to include that in their text. Apparently Tang Li has no such politeness, nor qualms about hitting the relgious camps just to advance his own bigotted (and totally unfounded) views.

    (FYI, for those interested – theologists think the physical length of the parchment scroll at that time was the limiting factor why the bible books were short (probably expensive too). The writers therefore didn’t have much real space to write on – hence including f**king is probably a total waste. A preacher also probably wouldn’t want to haul several 10-kg scrolls around when moving from place to place. Remember they didn’t have photocopy machines, FB, Whatsapp, Twitter, TikTok, etc… in that era.)

    Please stop talking about religion…this will invite the POFMA or prosecution. We can talk many issues without walking in a mine-field.

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  • Don't care:

    You spreading fake news again? Or you have simply FORGOTTEN?

    USA has not reserved monkeypox vaccines for the LGBTs.

    You even want to speculate about Jesus teaching and what the Bible missed out. You can be God lah.

    theforgottongeneration: USA has reserved the (current) limited stock of Monkeypox vaccines for the LGBTs.

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  • Spec Ops:

    Eventually they will allow for gay marriage, but if and when they do, it will not be because they care about your ‘rights’.

    Firstly you get a third party involved in your personal affairs which is government and their seal of approval who therefore by proxy is the overseer of the contract that states that you two are together. You don’t need government approval to love someone. You can love someone for years without marrying them.

    Secondly the tax structure, benefits, work privileges (maybe here, certainly in other countries for TRE readers outside Sinkieland) and HDB policies (Sinkieland) favoring married couples over singles is about reducing you to being domesticated animals tied down in a house together instead of being independent in mind and action.

    A single person whose cost of living is for himself only is a hard target for the control freaks.

    Thirdly the legal system that has shown recently it does not serve the People are eager for job opportunities when gay couples divorce to earn their cash.

    When a ‘privilege’ is given to you by these mediocre bureaucratic cretins of the governing class, its tailored in a way that stands them to have the most profit, and that’s not even the main priority as they have loads of money anyway.

    What they are really after is power and control over you, the great unwashed.

    All these ‘privileges’ offered are really about taking away your rights and locking you in further to their system of human farming. They believe they are exempted from Karma/Causality because you made the voluntary choice (even if it was in ignorance) to sign on the dotted line of the marriage certificate.

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  • theforgottongeneration:

    panyusg: Please stop talking about religion…this will invite the POFMA or prosecution. We can talk many issues without walking in a mine-field.

    Funny, you didn’t tell Tang Li to stop using religious references in the first place. It is OK to create a minefield but not OK to walk it, hor?

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  • theforgottongeneration:

    Don't care:
    You spreading fake news again? Or you have simply FORGOTTEN?

    USA has not reserved monkeypox vaccines for the LGBTs.

    You even want to speculate about Jesus teaching and what the Bible missed out. You can be God lah.

    You should go educate yourself.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/18/monkeypox-us-to-provide-vaccines-for-pride-other-events-attended-by-gay-men.html

    “….The U.S. will provide 50,000 monkeypox vaccine doses SPECIFICALLY for large events with HIGH ATTENDANCE by gay and bisexual men in an effort to better reach the community most at risk right now, health officials said Thursday…..”

    BTW, who brought in Jesus, teaching and bible in the first place? Me? Yeah, you Don’t care. Just care to f**k your partner freely.

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  • theforgottongeneration:

    Cherry-picking again by the pro-LGBTQ++++ camp. I only responded to what the author wrote, yet many want to imply I am bringing in religion. Why not tell Tang Li to write something else, then see if I respond with religion, hor? The fact seems to be many are afraid of religion, dun want to discuss it objectively, wants to blame it for all their bogeymen self-insecurity, totally ignorant of religious beliefs, etc.

    theforgottongeneration:

    There is a reason why diseases like HIV, Aids, etc… are more prevalent in some groups of any general populate.

    Why nobody wants to dispute the above open FACT? Don’t care or don’t dare? Is that being religious issue? Hmmmmm….

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  • theforgottongeneration:

    Tang Li: ” ….you will notice that Jesus was more interested in feeding the poor and healing the sick than who f**ed who …”

    Wow, the Great Theologist Tang Li and friends. Theology has a Hierarchy of Truths – the above statement will definitely be considered as totally false without any historical, ideological, theological, (not to include Religious) merits. But to be fair, can anyone provide a reference to ANY theologist/ideologist that supports this statement by Tang Li? Did he talk first to any priest/pastor before making this VERY BIG statement?

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  • Don't care:

    ” The U.S. will provide 50,000 doses for communities hosting Pride and other large events to offer vaccinations on site.
    The monkeypox vaccine, Jynneos, is administered in two doses 28 days apart.
    CDC Director Rochelle Walensky said it’s crucial to get both shots. Receiving one dose at an event will not provide sufficient protection against the virus, she said.
    The U.S. has delivered more than 1 million doses of the monkeypox vaccine across the country since the outbreak started in May, according to HHS.
    The U.S. has delivered more than 1 million doses of the monkeypox vaccine across the country since the outbreak started in May, according to the Health and Human Services Department. The federal government will make another 1.8 million doses available for states and other local jurisdictions to order on Monday.”

    Does this mean US RESERVE vaccines for LBGTs?
    You need to re-educate yourself at a good English school.

    theforgottongeneration: You should go educate yourself.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/18/monkeypox-us-to-provide-vaccines-for-pride-other-events-attended-by-gay-men.html

    “….The U.S. will provide 50,000 monkeypox vaccine doses SPECIFICALLY for large events with HIGH ATTENDANCE by gay and bisexual men in an effort to better reach the community most at risk right now, health officials said Thursday…..”

    BTW, who brought in Jesus, teaching and bible in the first place? Me? Yeah, you Don’t care. Just care to f**k your partner freely.

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  • AhTang:

    The two religious protagonist you mentioned: one is a scribe and the other a rich pharisee.

    Mat 5:20 KJV For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

    There are two kinds of righteousness; don’t follow the wrong one because it is very easy to be misled by “good deeds and intentions”.

    Ultimately, you, as a nation, and the world bear the fruits of the thrust of your brand of “righteousness”. Like the “rich ruler” who claimed to fulfil the laws but couldn’t let go of his wealth and thus Jesus said it is easier for the camel to go through the eye of a needle than the rich to get into the kingdom(the religious would have you believe the kingdom is within you or in the yonder dimension so they can carry on with their religious business on earth)

    But what do you expect the rich religious pharisees say to that in their hypocrisy?

    Obviously they draw upon their gospel of “righteousness”( ultra- grace or even the more widely digested misleading and idolatrous substitutionary atonement) to pander to the followers lusts(no less lustful than the godless)

    True in that the gospel does not venture into your “bedroom activities” but like any controversial influences, it is up to your people to “react” to their lusts.

    After all, your entire political system is driven by or pivoted on lusts so why the hypocrisy?

    Eph 2:3 KJV Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our FLESH, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

    You see, the dirty religious minded folks would look at your “flesh”(bodies) and pick at your dirty noses because the pharisees to day are blind to what that “flesh” means – the framing of your national body.

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  • theforgottongeneration:

    Don't care:
    ” The U.S. will provide 50,000 doses for communities hosting Pride and other large events to offer vaccinations on site.
    The monkeypox vaccine, Jynneos, is administered in two doses 28 days apart.
    CDC Director Rochelle Walensky said it’s crucial to get both shots. Receiving one dose at an event will not provide sufficient protection against the virus, she said.
    The U.S. has delivered more than 1 million doses of the monkeypox vaccine across the country since the outbreak started in May, according to HHS.
    The U.S. has delivered more than 1 million doses of the monkeypox vaccine across the country since the outbreak started in May, according to the Health and Human Services Department. The federal government will make another 1.8 million doses available for states and other local jurisdictions to order on Monday.”

    Does this mean US RESERVE vaccines for LBGTs?
    You need to re-educate yourself at a good English school.

    So your reasoning is that 50,000 is not enough to be considered “reserved”? Not happy, must be 1 million as reserved? Corner seats in MRT are reserved for the elders/handicapped, etc. But then this cannot be considered, must be the whole train then considered as having reserved, hor?

    Typical self-entitled attitude of your type, talking cock. The Don’t Care except for yourself mentality. Not surprised there will be push backs, not just from the religious camp. Oh, but you Don’t Care.

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  • The Unforgettable:

    @theforgottongeneration

    The above article is dedicated to you.

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  • Temusik Patriot:

    Who f… who is SINful enough for the Creator to DESTROY SINcity Sodom & Gomorra .sg. when 2 angels sent by Him was demanded to be Sodomised by its SINful Resideny Committee…no need 4 Lot morr to say

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  • Don't care:

    You don’t understand English.

    1. The vaccine is not “reserved” for LBGTs. Anybody can get it. The medical people won’t demand you show proof of poking somewhere.

    2. A “reserved” parking lot is only for the “reserved” car/person. Nobody else can use it. SMRT use lousy English, where reserved seat is not reserved, and you dutifully follow. Please see how other countries use the right words. London calls those “priority seats”. Canada calls those “courtesy seats.” “Reserved seats” are those you pay for and designated for you.

    3. You need to improve your English.

    theforgottongeneration: So your reasoning is that 50,000 is not enough to be considered “reserved”? Not happy, must be 1 million as reserved? Corner seats in MRT are reserved for the elders/handicapped, etc. But then this cannot be considered, must be the whole train then considered as having reserved, hor?

    Typical self-entitled attitude of your type, talking cock. The Don’t Care except for yourself mentality. Not surprised there will be push backs, not just from the religious camp. Oh, but you Don’t Care.

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  • xoxo:

    Just wanna to say dont try to shield one topic with another.
    LGBTQ N THE POOR are 2 distinct topics,pls dont mix them up.Thanks.
    I agree the poor here needs to be accorded more govt attention n public resources.
    Too much cover-ups like GST VOUCHERS etc.
    Remove GST or refund GST for basic necessities.
    Tax more on *luxury* n high salaries.
    Why add burden to the already suffering poor.
    Or else,CUT GOVT EXPENSES LIKE THE OUT-OF-THE-WORLD MINISTERIAL/TOP ECHELONS’ PAYCHECK$$$.
    It is rather contradictory when G told SG-PMEs they either ACCEPT LOW SALARIES OR GET REPLACED BY *CBF* FTs the G dumps here.
    But when Covid strikes,how come G needs to RAID sgs’ reserves of $100 Billion to pay generous furlough?
    Why cant the EXPENSIVE FTs accept pay-cuts or get replaced by jobless sgs the way the G replaced sgs with FTs for the same reasoning?

    $1000 pay is enough to even eat 3 meals,send kids to schools and buy HDB?

    PLS TAKE PROPER CARE OF OUR IMPOVERISHED NATION-BUILDERS FIRST BEFORE THROWING SGS’ RESERVES( SAVINGS) AT LESS DESERVING NON-SGS WORKING HERE.

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    Destitute Sgs:
    The growing number of poor elderly is visible everywhere especially where the crowd is: at MRT stations, at market places, hawker centres, etc. Elderly peddling tissue paper, collecting cans, is a perfectly pathetic scenario of people who are left behind in a rich country.

    It’s true and can never be POFMAd.

    Yes, I agreed. It’s true and it can never be POFMAd.

    But have you think deeper. Ask yourselves this question:

    “Did they bring this upon themselves by screwing around?”

    Wife caught husband cheating with mistress-Chua soon ho (Jackie Chua)
    https://bit.ly/3PMVWB3

    “Sir, would you like hot service ?”
    https://bit.ly/3QYHqGm

    18搖 (Chi Ko Pek KTV/)
    https://shorturl.at/vEKV3

    Destitute Sgs:
    Shouldn’t CDC/MSF and/or the relevant authorities jointly make every effort to eradicate this societal enigma? Is giving $100 CDC vouchers enough? ($100 out of $23k?)

    Nay,it’s a meagre sum just to pacify crying infants in the pangs of hunger.

    Well, looks like the PioneerDAS too shall remain at $100/mth despite the runaway inflation. And 8 years have passed since the scheme was introduced…

    Meagre sum? How much do you think we should give to aid recipient?

    $100 ? (Hawker Centre food)
    $500 ? (Air Con food court)
    $1000 ? (Restaurant)

    Aids is given to help one tide over your difficulties and not to make you rich.

    人算不如天算 Man proposes, Heaven disposes
    善心做人 ,不要算計 Be kind, not petty and calculative
    人可以窮 ,不可以懶 One can be poor, but never be lazy and unmotivated
    credit: Professor Dennis Peng at 10:21 https://bit.ly/3cDXQ84

    Thanks to Professor Dennis Peng who agreed with our great PAP.

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    Dear Tang Li,
    Our great founding PM LKY had already said, what you do in the 4 walls of your bedroom we do not wish to know.

    You can bonk a puppy, cat, cow or even spider in your bedroom and we don’t care.

    My question is: What’s next ?

    Demand greater publicity to promote LGBTQ life style ?

    ⭕️「對了,大家,我適GAY耶,我GAY,我喜歡跟男孩子肛肛 特別是13歲-16歲的」

    ⭕️「跟小男孩肛肛,很爽的,比較緊,我常常去一個叫做Ockland的地方,那邊父母都會賣小孩 一次30-40美金,就可以跟13歲男孩肛肛」

    (loosely translated: DPP王浩宇: I am gay. I love to poke teenage boy backside, especially 13 to 15 years old boys)
    https://bit.ly/3cNbJ4p

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  • xoxo:

    Liz Truss says she will make a bold plan to cut taxes n grow the UK economy.
    Here in $in City,LEE AH LONG said,at NDP RALLY,there is going to be GST INCREASES.
    LEE AH LONG IS *BOLDER* THAN MS TRUSS for sure!
    He does not have to worry about getting *unpopolar* votes like Boris?
    So easy pea$y job with WORLD’S HIGHEST $alary for a PM.
    Hey,i know where this little RED DOT is.
    But,where is UK?
    IS IT A SMALL ISLAND LIKE SENTOSA?

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  • xoxo:

    See,Ms Truss is talking about cutting taxes ,while,at the same grow the whole of UK economy.
    And,our *deare$t* PM says in order to *fund ageing population needs,he needs to increase GST.

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  • theforgottongeneration:

    Don't care:
    You don’t understand English.

    1. The vaccine is not “reserved” for LBGTs. Anybody can get it. The medical people won’t demand you show proof of poking somewhere.

    2. A “reserved” parking lot is only for the “reserved” car/person. Nobody else can use it. SMRT use lousy English, where reserved seat is not reserved, and you dutifully follow. Please see how other countries use the right words. London calls those “priority seats”. Canada calls those “courtesy seats.” “Reserved seats” are those you pay for and designated for you.

    3. You need to improve your English.

    You need to learn to read – already told you MRT seats are reserved for those of special needs BUT others can still use them. Dun blame English if you dun even know what your cock is for.

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  • theforgottongeneration:

    The Unforgettable:
    @theforgottongeneration

    The above article is dedicated to you.

    No the article is for the abnormal ppl happy consumption. Obviously that includes you.

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  • theforgottongeneration:

    theforgottongeneration:

    There is a reason why diseases like HIV, Aids, etc… are more prevalent in some groups of any general populate.

    Still nobody dares to address this? Don’t want to show how shallow the author’s understanding of f**ing is? No balls say no balls, lah. Who cannot talk big on f**king?

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  • xoxo:

    Real BRAIN-STORMING requires open-mindedness to arrive at the best options.
    Steering minds is the oppsite of STIRRING MINDS.

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  • What the beef?:

    Remember that lesbians and gays were born and are still born by NON-GAY parents in a ‘TRADITIONAL’ MARRIAGE.

    THESE LESBIANS N GAYS DID NOT come from poking each other’s backside or 2 gurls frontside, huh??

    So what the beef, may I asked?

    The worst is to see GAY WANNABEs?

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  • Smart Nation:

    The writer knows his Bible – Jesus was not obsessed with the sins of others; instead, he focused on healing the sick, feeding hungry, mending broken hearts and broken lives, and building bridges in a racially divided world. However, the writer conveniently left out the other part where Jesus also came to call sinners to repentance; (homosexuality is considered sin in the Bible); but Jesus did it with grace and compassion, not with a harsh, hypocritical and judgemental attitude. Decriminalizing homo-sex does not mean that the wider non-religious and religious community, which still hold on to conservative values, will accept homosexuals into the mainstream. While it stands, 377A is as an obstacle to the LGBT movement; its removal will result in a more overt and aggressive promotion of gay sex and gay marriage/union. We can expect the LGBT to demand for equal rights and protection under the law, school textbooks to be revised to show more inclusivity, legal challenges against discrimination, and other forms of LGBT activism.

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  • Don't care:

    You know you are wrong, and you go the vulgar route.
    I don’t blame English. I say you don’t understand English.

    You really don’t understand English. Read others’ writing, cannot understand. You write, also cannot understand what you write. You write so much at TRE, and mostly irrelevant or nonsensical.

    Go, if you have a car, go park it at reserved lots.

    theforgottongeneration: You need to learn to read – already told you MRT seats are reserved for those of special needs BUT others can still use them. Dun blame English if you dun even know what your cock is for.

    Tech: TRE is indeed an interesting platform, you find commentators that have no freaking idea what they are talking about. lol

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  • PAP Cares More About Gay Sex:

    The PAP is spending time and resources on topics such as who is farking whose asshole. The real issue now is Inflation, High Cost Of Living, Unemployment, Low Salary etc..

    Now there are many old and retired people, some are sick who have problems to get food and some are homeless. These people are from the Pioneer and Merdeka Generation people who had worked very hard to bring Singapore to the current state. Why can’t the PAP government help them now when they are actually suffering ?

    Instead at my block in Bedok, I saw Contractors breaking the cement of the drain around the block and putting new cement on the drain again when there was nothing wrong with the original drain. The same thing happened at the children playground. They break the cement on the playground and then put a fresh coat of cement over the surface. In actual fact there was nothing wrong with the children playground.

    After some consideration , I realized that the PAP town council is giving business to the Contractors who are also PAP members.

    Can we accept this ? If not we will need to vote the PAP out as this is some form of corruption.

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  • The Unforgettable:

    theforgottongeneration: No the article is for the abnormal ppl happy consumption. Obviously that includes you.

    You pride yourself normal but actually you are just stupid and stubborn.

    Your replies to other posters are proof.

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  • with the stats:

    //Our great founding PM LKY had already said, what you do in the 4 walls of your bedroom we do not wish to know.//

    don’t bring ah kong in ?? he is no more lar ?? sinkie land is so much different now from the time when ah kong was around lar ??? too many, he was indeed a legend lar ??

    did he also say this ??

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-singapore-homosexuality-idUSSIN33351020070423

    he also said something in his will (clear black and white ?) and his offsprings do not quite agree on certain points leh ????

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  • Temusik Patriot:

    TangFastic claims he scored BRLLIANTLY in Bible knowledge le! But decide to follow Buddha instead not to return as s cockroach but Achieve Nirvana

    Smart Nation:
    The writer knows his Bible – Jesus was not obsessed with the sins of others; instead, he focused on healing the sick, feeding hungry, mending broken hearts and broken lives, and building bridges in a racially divided world. However, the writer conveniently left out the other part where Jesus also came to call sinners to repentance; (homosexuality is considered sin in the Bible); but Jesus did it with grace and compassion, not with a harsh, hypocritical and judgemental attitude. Decriminalizing homo-sex does not mean that the wider non-religious and religious community, which still hold on to conservative values, will accept homosexuals into the mainstream. While it stands, 377A is as an obstacle to the LGBT movement; its removal will result in a more overt and aggressive promotion of gay sex and gay marriage/union. We can expect the LGBT to demand for equal rights and protection under the law, school textbooks to be revised to show more inclusivity, legal challenges against discrimination, and other forms of LGBT activism.

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  • xoxo:

    We are all sinners,one way or another.
    If i remember,Christ said the WAY TO MY FATHER’S KINGDOM IS THROUGH THE NARROW GATE(eye of the needle).
    Its never easy not to sin.
    We bear the consequences of our sins.
    And ,Buddha taught about KARMA N PURIFYING.
    The same it is as was taught by Jesus.
    We are all humans on a *pilgrim* journey.

    Along the WAY,we may *fall n falter* but,each time,we *GET UP* and move on till our *pilgrimage* is done,here on earth or into *eternity*…
    We must not lose our *bearings*.

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  • panyusg:

    xoxo:
    We are all sinners,one way or another.
    If i remember,Christ said the WAY TO MY FATHER’S KINGDOM IS THROUGH THE NARROW GATE(eye of the needle).
    Its never easy not to sin.
    We bear the consequences of our sins.
    And ,Buddha taught about KARMA N PURIFYING.
    The same it is as was taught by Jesus.
    We are all humans on a *pilgrim* journey.

    Along the WAY,we may *fall n falter* but,each time,we *GET UP* and move on till our *pilgrimage* is done,here on earth or into *eternity*…
    We must not lose our *bearings*.

    I am a Christian and I am a Sinner…and I am happy to be a Sinner. A sinner is not a criminal, not a death row convict. The Bible has to be read with wisdom and not word for word.

    The Bible as we know it today was a collection of hundreds of chapters written long after Jesus died. No chapter was ever written during his life.

    A few hundred years after Jesus’s death, a big conference was held in Constantinople and scholars selected which book or chapter constituted the Bible.

    So, the Bible is not one document written by God and brought down from a holy mountain by someone. It is man-made perhaps inspired by the wisdom from God.

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  • xoxo:

    Sure,a sin may not be a crime.
    I am just sharing my humble thought.
    Greed is not a crime unless you are caught cheating ,for example.
    Nonetheless,greed is sin.

    So is lust,etc.
    Just my simple thought.
    Cheerio mate.

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  • theforgottongeneration:

    Don't care:

    Go, if you have a car, go park it at reserved lots.

    So 50,000 parking lots for the special needs ppl out of 1m parking lots is considered “reserved”, but 50,000 vaccines for high-risk groups out of 1-2m vaccines is not considered “reserved”.

    No wonder you are confused what your cock is for. Take English lessons also cannot help your condition.

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  • theforgottongeneration:

    The simplest way to spot a pseudo-theologist is when that person claims something is not mentioned in the bible (or any religion references), then he/she interprets that as can do or cannot do, according to what best suits his/her agenda. So when it is claimed Jesus didn’t say this or that, it is ASSUMED that who one F or don’t F is unquestioned. Did Jesus say it is NOT right to bonk a cow, goat or spider? No, so according to the article writer logic, he can bonk cow, goat or spider. The next level will be Radicalization, when warped ppl act on misinterpreted beliefs that they convinced themselves to be correct. Suicide bombers or those acted on Jan 6 are examples.

    This is why it is important to see if contentious issues are argued logically. It shows if our society is on a slippery slope. Unfortunately, the arguments here so far shows SG is indeed on a VERY slippery slope on the 377a AND ITS IMPLICATIONS.

    The good thing about TRE is it allows anyone to discuss (or argue, scream, shout, etc) on issues. The bad thing about TRE is that it also attracts those that are convinced that the Apollo landings are a big hoax, and screamed at those who disagreed with them.

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  • Don't care:

    The Unforgettable: You pride yourself normal but actually you are just stupid and stubborn.

    Your replies to other posters are proof.

    theforgottongeneration: So 50,000 parking lots for the special needs ppl out of 1m parking lots is considered “reserved”, but 50,000 vaccines for high-risk groups out of 1-2m vaccines is not considered “reserved”.

    No wonder you are confused what your cock is for. Take English lessons also cannot help your condition.

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  • theforgottongeneration:

    Don't care:

    So, you just confirm you are stupid? Reserved or not reserved? Dun cry, maybe go ask your parents.

    Where are your multi-posters?
    - Take care – Forgotten
    - Don’t FUCK care – forgotten
    - Don’t care -forgotten
    - The Unforgettable – to be forgotten

    Generate more posters to help TRE? Very good.

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  • Don't care:

    You are so “stupid and stubborn”, as said by @Unforgettable. There is no point in reasoning with you.

    theforgottongeneration: So, you just confirm you are stupid? Reserved or not reserved? Dun cry, maybe go ask your parents.

    Where are your multi-posters?
    - Take care – Forgotten
    - Don’t FUCK care – forgotten
    - Don’t care -forgotten
    - The Unforgettable – to be forgotten

    Generate more posters to help TRE? Very good.

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  • Don't care:

    You can’t understand even a simple word “reserved”. How can you understand the Bible?

    theforgottongeneration:
    The simplest way to spot a pseudo-theologist is when that person claims something is not mentioned in the bible (or any religion references), then he/she interprets that as can do or cannot do, according to what best suits his/her agenda. So when it is claimed Jesus didn’t say this or that, it is ASSUMED that who one F or don’t F is unquestioned. Did Jesus say it is NOT right to bonk a cow, goat or spider? No, so according to the article writer logic, he can bonk cow, goat or spider. The next level will be Radicalization, when warped ppl act on misinterpreted beliefs that they convinced themselves to be correct. Suicide bombers or those acted on Jan 6 are examples.

    This is why it is important to see if contentious issues are argued logically. It shows if our society is on a slippery slope. Unfortunately, the arguments here so far shows SG is indeed on a VERY slippery slope on the 377a AND ITS IMPLICATIONS.

    The good thing about TRE is it allows anyone to discuss (or argue, scream, shout, etc) on issues. The bad thing about TRE is that it also attracts those that are convinced that the Apollo landings are a big hoax, and screamed at those who disagreed with them.

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  • theforgottongeneration:

    Don't care:
    You are so “stupid and stubborn”, as said by @Unforgettable. There is no point in reasoning with you.

    And yet you keep answering my baits….. Proven you are the stupid one.

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  • theforgottongeneration:

    Don't care:
    You can’t understand even a simple word “reserved”. How can you understand the Bible?

    Which points I raised about the bible teachings is wrong? You don’t dare say because you are INCAPABLE, dun want to show how stupid you are. Again go ask your parents.

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  • Don't care - just talk LJ:

    @Don’t care, why so easy to point out faults, but you never put points forward for discuss.

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  • Talkcock lah:

    The only point you understand is the LJ point. Where is the LJ pointing. That is the all consuming point for you.

    Don't care - just talk LJ:
    @Don’t care, why so easy to point out faults, but you never put points forward for discuss.

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