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Appointing allies into the Politburo Standing Committee

China's Politburo Standing Committee

Many western media reported that Xi Jinping has consolidated his power and appointed his allies into the Politburo Standing Committee, which is the top decision making body of the Communist Party of China.

I find this narrative to be dishonest.

Surely all leaders appoint their allies into the key positions in their government. This is the case with the cabinet of the American President and the UK Prime Minister. They do not appoint their opponents into the key positions.

It is already a big challenge to run any large country. It becomes more difficult, maybe impossible, to run any country if there is constant disagreement among the top ministers in any administration.

If the team appointed by Xi Jinping does not perform, it is up to the Central Committee of the CPC to replace the leader and the team at the end of the term, or maybe earlier.

Xi Jinping and his team is accountable to the higher body, i.e. the Central Committee, and to the country at large, to run the country effectively and achieve the goals that they set out in their plan. If they fail to achieve the goals, they can be replace, and should be replaced.

The system adopted by Xi Jinping is inline with the practice in “democratic” countries around the world. It is not proper for the western media (or a large segment of it) to smear this system.

 

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48 Responses to “Appointing allies into the Politburo Standing Committee”

  • xoxo:

    No doubt XJP has sealed his power base.
    And appoint closest allies to the PSC.
    It can be seen as autocratic by some especially the angmohs.
    On the other hand,XJP has much to do ,both doneatically and internationally.
    By consolidating his PSC ,he is trying to seek quicker consensus to his plans for China n her people.
    There is adversorial WESTERN POWER working against his planned re-unification with Taiwan.
    There is Covid n corruption to take care of.
    He needs to make on-the-spot decisions concerning the Straits tensions should external forces become apparent.
    He cannot be impeded by internal party politics that may be costly.

    We are mere spectators and we can make things sound so simple when they are indeed not.

    Wish Taiwan Chinese and China Chinese peoples seek a peaceful resolution without war.
    God bless the two chinese peoples .

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  • TKL is half right:

    Look at how US President appoint the people around him. Any Tom, D, H, he wants, including his family members.

    This is not possible for China. It will be counted as corruption.

    The system in China is more stringent than the practice in “democratic” west.

    Tech: Actually you are not wrong. Mosty top (public) posts are vetted and have to be approved by the CCP committee or in the West, a senate committee. For example high court judges in the states need to be approved by the senate committee, in China, it has also to go through a committee, sort of a Public Service Commission. I am not sure about the 6 ‘elderlies’ in the PSC, but most, if not all high appointments are chosen from a few candidates and they go through a vote in a select committee in China. Even the chief of police or a mayor in a city is not hanf-picked and appointed, a few candidates have to be recommended and they go through a committee. One thing I do know is that in the states, the highest presidential aide, like the chief of staff, is appointed, maybe along with all the political appointees, like Sec State, etc, just like in Sinkieland. However in China, the appointment is fairer a committe has the finaly say, from among a few candidates.

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  • only stupid people vote pap:

    We love esteemed Mr Xi Jinping.

    We believe if only esteemed Mr Xi Jinping has the time, and the desire, he can make Singapore great again.

    Western media all talk like pap, that is, lies.

    When hu jintao, who is sick, wanted to leave the conference, every western media talk like there is disagreement with Mr Xi Jinping.

    We know for sure whatever the western media say, they are lies. The so called west, as we know it, is a decaying piece of shit like pap is.

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  • $300 million smear budget:

    Western media are very highly motivated.

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    The system adopted by Xi Jinping is inline with the practice in “democratic” countries around the world. It is not proper for the western media (or a large segment of it) to smear this system.
    ======================================================================
    An yes TKL, just this one, I agreed with you.

    Crony Capitalism, American Style
    https://www.hbs.edu/ris/Publication%20Files/15-025_c6fbbbf7-1519-4c94-8c02-4f971cf8a054.pdf

    Yes, it’s legal for Trump to hire his family as White House staff
    https://qz.com/1496272/yes-its-legal-for-trump-to-hire-his-family-as-white-house-staff/

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  • Why:

    Why are the 22 volunteers arrested as communist(Teo Soh Lan and group), where the REAL communist Tan Kin Lian was in the PAP CEC committee and in charge of NTUC?

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  • All the President men:

    Always good to have diversity.
    Check and balance.
    Worst for absolute Power. Chances of major mistake higher.
    Look at Mao Cultural Revolution.

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  • idontbelieveinccpbs:

    You can see how CCP and Russian lovers loves to twist logic. Why is TKL still in Singapore and not move to China yet?

    Fyi, XJP has made himself chairman of all committees, this is the first time in history that only Mao did that and now him. And all the committees, he purged all the oppositions that do not toe his line with corruption charges. So it is like if Botak does not agree with GST, Pinky will fire him and put another puppy in place.

    This a 200% autocracy model with no feedback loop nor any willingness to listen to alternate views. This is quite similar to Singapore model. Why? Who can check XJP? He is chairman of everything! Who can check Pinky?

    If XJP model is so welcome, why Chinese markets slumped and lost billions?
    https://www.barrons.com/articles/alibaba-tencent-baidu-china-stock-price-hang-seng-index-51666604482
    https://sg.news.bullshitter.com/xi-jinping-third-term-begins-123901880.html
    https://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/23/economy/china-gdp-released-xi-third-term-stock-market-intl-hnk/index.html

    XJP model is absolute dictatorship like Mao, he is one man making all decisions and surrounded with his appointed parties, similar to what is happening in SG.

    TKL and CCP Russian lovers are spouting bs here, nothing can convince them.

    Tech: You are wrong. When it becomes a fact that China has invaded Taiwan, then we will be convinced. In the meantime, its mere speculation and opinion, not a matter of fact.

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  • myfirstscrew:

    A lot of CCP and Russian lovers said if Taiwan does not declare independence, China will live with it. As the situation unravels, it shows that this is no longer the case and acceptable to XJP and his lust for power like Putin.

    —————————————-
    US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said Wednesday that China has rejected the longstanding status quo on Taiwan, reiterating an assessment that Beijing is speeding up its timeline to take the island.
    https://sg.news.bullshitter.com/blinken-says-china-rejected-status-211147701.html

    How ruthless is XJP towards his comrade
    https://sg.bullshitter.com/news/footage-sheds-more-light-moment-135952850.html

    China is spying and policing in foreign land with no respect for soverveignity
    https://www.justice.gov/usao-edny/pr/six-individuals-charged-conspiring-act-illegal-agents-peoples-republic-china-0

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/10/24/justice-china-telecom-giant-spy-investigation/

    This is the kind of democracy TKL and CCP/Russian lovers embrace, they are ok with what China is doing outside China and still have cheek to say its democracy.

    If China invades Taiwan without Taiwan declaring independence, they will say its China internal business.

    They kiss the axxx of whatever China does, right or wrong, they will defend their love. We cannot debate with people with no logic.

    Tech: Just curious, are you citing a matter of fact, that China has invaded Taiwan, or they are just a matter of opinions?

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  • P Against People:

    Because the gov think like you.

    Why:
    Why are the 22 volunteers arrested as communist(Teo Soh Lan and group), where the REAL communist Tan Kin Lian was in the PAP CEC committee and in charge of NTUC?

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  • MarBowling:

    xoxo:
    October 26, 2022 at 10:52 pm (Quote)
    No doubt XJP has sealed his power base.
    And appoint closest allies to the PSC.
    It can be seen as autocratic by some especially the angmohs.
    On the other hand,XJP has much to do ,both doneatically and internationally.
    By consolidating his PSC ,he is trying to seek quicker consensus to his plans for China n her people.
    There is adversorial WESTERN POWER working against his planned re-unification with Taiwan.
    There is Covid n corruption to take care of.
    He needs to make on-the-spot decisions concerning the Straits tensions should external forces become apparent.
    He cannot be impeded by internal party politics that may be costly.

    We are mere spectators and we can make things sound so simple when they are indeed not.

    Wish Taiwan Chinese and China Chinese peoples seek a peaceful resolution without war.
    God bless the two chinese peoples .

    Response: totally agree with your Great and Insightful comments. China under XJP, Jia Yu!

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  • Western Sxxxx:

    Do you still believe that since WW1, US has not killed anyone in Asia?

    Just checking whether your brain can take in any new information.

    idontbelieveinccpbs: TKL and CCP Russian lovers are spouting bs here, nothing can convince them.

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  • only stupid people vote pap:

    idontbelieveinccpbs:
    You can see how CCP and Russian lovers loves to twist logic. Why is TKL still in Singapore and not move to China yet?

    Fyi, XJP has made himself chairman of all committees, this is the first time in history that only Mao did that and now him. And all the committees, he purged all the oppositions that do not toe his line with corruption charges. So it is like if Botak does not agree with GST, Pinky will fire him and put another puppy in place.

    This a 200% autocracy model with no feedback loop nor any willingness to listen to alternate views. This is quite similar to Singapore model. Why? Who can check XJP? He is chairman of everything! Who can check Pinky?

    If XJP model is so welcome, why Chinese markets slumped and lost billions?
    https://www.barrons.com/articles/alibaba-tencent-baidu-china-stock-price-hang-seng-index-51666604482
    https://sg.news.bullshitter.com/xi-jinping-third-term-begins-123901880.html
    https://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/23/economy/china-gdp-released-xi-third-term-stock-market-intl-hnk/index.html

    XJP model is absolute dictatorship like Mao, he is one man making all decisions and surrounded with his appointed parties, similar to what is happening in SG.

    TKL and CCP Russian lovers are spouting bs here, nothing can convince them.

    Tech: You are wrong. When it becomes a fact that China has invaded Taiwan, then we will be convinced. In the meantime, its mere speculation and opinion, ot a matter of fact.

    You are so stupid no medicine can cure.

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  • only stupid people vote pap:

    myfirstscrew:
    A lot of CCP and Russian lovers said if Taiwan does not declare independence, China will live with it. As the situation unravels, it shows that this is no longer the case and acceptable to XJP and his lust for power like Putin.

    —————————————-
    US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said Wednesday that China has rejected the longstanding status quo on Taiwan, reiterating an assessment that Beijing is speeding up its timeline to take the island.
    https://sg.news.bullshitter.com/blinken-says-china-rejected-status-211147701.html

    How ruthless is XJP towards his comrade
    https://yahoo.bullshit.com/news/footage-sheds-more-light-moment-135952850.html

    China is spying and policing in foreign land with no respect for soverveignity
    https://www.justice.gov/usao-edny/pr/six-individuals-charged-conspiring-act-illegal-agents-peoples-republic-china-0

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/10/24/justice-china-telecom-giant-spy-investigation/

    This is the kind of democracy TKL and CCP/Russian lovers embrace, they are ok with what China is doing outside China and still have cheek to say its democracy.

    If China invades Taiwan without Taiwan declaring independence, they will say its China internal business.

    They kiss the axxx of whatever China does, right or wrong, they will defend their love. We cannot debate with people with no logic.

    Tech: Just curious, are you citing a matter of fact, that China has invaded Taiwan, or they are just a matter of opinions?

    You are for sure a pap IB.

    So many different monikers in one Forum – idontbelieveinccpbs, myfirstscrew, pap liar.

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  • @idontbelieveinccpbs

    I am not sure if the head of all committees is true or not, but I highly doubt so, there are thousands and thousands of committees in China, he where got time? Anyway, for the sake of discussion, let’s assume that he did, what difference does it make whether he is Chairman or not, since he is already the leader of the entire China?

    BTW, unlike the PAPies where one man say all listen, China is run collectively by all in the PSC, major decisions are made in consultation with those in the PSC. Before you go shooting off crap again, let me tell you that Xi CANNOT remove anyone from the PSC without the majority consent of the other PSC members, and he can be removed by a majority of the PSC members.

    And if my understanding is correct, the members of the PSC can be removed by the about 200 senior members of the CPC and the CPC is checked by the over 2000 members of Renda (人大), it’s like the lower and upper house in the states. BTW, Those Renda have no powers worth writing about, but they get to vote during the annual party meetings. They are just common folks, with no official title to be proud of, anyone can be a Renda, even farmers, businessmen and businesswomen, etc.

    There are therefore proper checks and balances in the Chinese system, ensuring that no single person can amass too much power in case he/she goes bonkers.

    If, like you alleged, Xi is an emperor one hand cover all, then why does he even need to seek re-election? He can just change the system and declare himself emperor and China a dynasty, right?

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  • Foreigners everywhere:

    https://sg.news.bullshitter.com/former-us-pilot-worked-china-122811255.html

    Chinese tech better than US?
    Why do this?
    Then act blur???

    ——————–

    Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs spokesperson Wang Wenbin was asked at his regular news briefing in Beijing on Tuesday to comment on a report of Duggan’s arrest amid investigations of pilots being hired to train China’s military.

    Wang replied, “I’m not aware of the situation you mentioned.”

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  • xoxo:

    Dear MarBowling

    Just my humble take.
    Cheerio.

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  • xoxo:

    Now,we would expect the RICH looking to leave with their riches,even former official$ and their family members.
    Enriched $cholar-gahmen not of like-mindedness with XJP’s COMMON PROSPERITY goal would find escape route$ to enjoy the HIGH LIFE in angmoh *citie$* which will be more than happy to welcome them.
    Tsinghua alumni and other ELITE varsities’ alumni are already showing unhappiness.
    Just like our Elite-$cholar group would?

    Will XJP FALTER?
    WILL CHINA FALTER?
    Think it will be A BETTER CHINA without SELF-$erving scholar-elite$.
    China has vast talents n other economic resources to see things through.
    Good chinese talents who remain will bring China to a higher plane.

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    @ We love esteemed Mr Xi Jinping.

    We believe if only esteemed Mr Xi Jinping has the time, and the desire, he can make Singapore great again.

    Totally irrelevant.

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  • MarBowling:

    Foreigners everywhere:
    October 27, 2022 at 11:07 am (Quote)
    https://sg.news.bullshitter.com/former-us-pilot-worked-china-122811255.html

    Chinese tech better than US?
    Why do this?
    Then act blur???

    ——————–

    Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs spokesperson Wang Wenbin was asked at his regular news briefing in Beijing on Tuesday to comment on a report of Duggan’s arrest amid investigations of pilots being hired to train China’s military.

    Wang replied, “I’m not aware of the situation you mentioned.”

    Response: Don’t THINK that joker former US Pilot Duggan is being hired to TRAIN China’s military! LEARNED NOT TO FLY AIRPLANES BUT MOST LIKELY TO WASH AIRPLANE’$ HEAD. LOL!

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  • myfirstscrew:

    If, like you alleged, Xi is an emperor one hand cover all, then why does he even need to seek re-election? He can just change the system and declare himself emperor and China a dynasty, right?

    ———- this is a joke right? —————

    Only simpleton will write such reason. Firstly, CCP told all citizens that their decisions are based on citizens rights. If XJP goes and declare himself as Emperor, then it is a slap in CCP face.

    Xi is already Emperor by removing all oppositions just like Lee Con Yeu in removing all the old guards to make way for his son. Emperor Pinky is similar to XJP isnt it?

    Who dares defy XJP? Look at how Hu is treated and all those neutral and well liked by citizens like Le Ke Qiang, removed before he even reach retirement.

    ———————————————-the second joke———–

    There are therefore proper checks and balances in the Chinese system, ensuring that no single person can amass too much power in case he/she goes bonkers.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/oct/15/china-xi-jinping-communist-party-congress
    https://english.elpais.com/international/2022-10-23/xi-jinping-becomes-the-most-powerful-chinese-leader-since-mao.html

    —->>> Ultimate joke here, XJP is the ultimate, chairman of all committees, he amassed ultimate power.

    And you tell me that no single person can amass too much power in case he goes bonkers???? U serious? You joking or????

    Check and balance against XJP? How? He is his own check like Emperor Pinky? LOL

    Bro, you want to write, you need to write sensibly. LOL Your love for CCP is so deep, we know…difficult to debate with you… your logic defies gravity.

    Tech: I already gave you all the facts as it is, you can argue until the cows come home also won’t change a thing. You are entitled to continue believing what you want, if that will make you forget that you are jabbed and have been screwed. lol

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  • @myfirstscrew

    You are clearly not reading what I have written and choose to continue on your own tirade against Xi. You did not even address my question to you as to how and why Xi should be the charman of All committee, considering that there are thousands and thousands of committees in China. I am very sure that Xi is not the chairman of my estate’s 业主委员会, his name is not there? “All” did you not say?

    I also said that Xi can be removed if there is ever such a need by the PSC, you did not address that too. You divert to Sinkieland and made comparison with the PM , so since you mentioned it, may I ask WHO can remove the PM in Sinkieland compared to the PSC in China “legally”? Did you know that despite the removal of the term limit, the chairman has to be re-elected every 4 years? Was SInkieland’s PM re-elected in the same way?

    BTW, which idiot told you that Hu was forcibly removed by Xi during the ceremony? Another Sinkieland Yahoo bull of a shit media contexting from some snippets? have you watched the full report on the ceremony, from the beginning to the end of whats available?

    Anyway, just wondering if you have ever been to China, worked there and lived there long enough to understand the country?

    There is an obvious difference in reading about China from some publications claiming to know about China and having really lived in the country and experienced it. That having said, if I am not a citizen of Sinkieland, having studied and grown up in the country, then I would choose to STFU and not pretend to know everything about the country just because I know how to use Google. lol

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  • Western Shxxx:

    Some people here are very consistent.

    They: The sun rises from the west.
    Scientific + kindergarten evidence: The sun rises from the east and set in the west.

    They: See, We are right. The sun rises from … the west. Do you even read what you post? We are right! The moon also rises from the west.

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  • xoxo:

    @TRE Tech
    i visited China on a few occasions only, but i went about to see things for myself.
    China’s speed of progress is truly amazing,almost unmatched even by Americans.
    That may be why americans are weary,its inly human.

    I like that Biden says USA does not want a conflict with China and XJP reciprocates by saying China will *go along* with USA,thats some peace-making.
    Nice.

    Hope NO MORE WAR.
    Humans’ common enemy now is COVID.
    Let all peoples work together to make this troubled A BETTER PLACE.

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  • @xoxo

    Yes, China has improved a lot under Xi as opposed to Hu. The commoners have benefitted a lot under Xi, go everywhere can see.

    I find it funny that some people thought that because they know how to Google or have climbed the great wall, they, therefore, know everything about China, what a joke. lol

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  • myfirstscrew:

    Here are my replies to CCP Russian Lover TR Tech:

    the chairman of my estate’s 业主委员会, his name is not there? “All” did you not say?
    -> All committees meaning committees which had direct impact on all major country policies such as army, police, security, financial, development, foreign affairs etc. These roles were all distributed under different leaders but now he made himself chairman of all these to consolidate power into his hand. Please do not bs about your toilet needing repair and he is not the chairman. Its difficult to debate with a person who has different frequency.

    I also said that Xi can be removed if there is ever such a need by the PSC, you
    -> He already placed all his pets in the committee, would he be removed? Would Pinky Loong be removed? Every 4 years, all his pets installed in the committee, who dares to vote against him? Those who echoed anything negative are removed, just look at Pinky and also XJP. Are you this gullible?

    BTW, which idiot told you that Hu was forcibly removed by Xi during the ceremony?
    -> I watched it slowly and carefully and observed the people near him and their reactions. They tried to forcefully lift him from the chair as he refused to leave with XJP looked irritated. If XJP is so nice and kind as u would think, he would have turned his friendly face and help since he was next to Hu. LOL… you will say its western propaganda as usual.

    Anyway, just wondering if you have ever been to China, worked there and lived there long enough to understand the country?
    -> I lived in China for years to understand CCP and Chinese people, dont think you are the only who lives in China and know China. I know many politicians, soldiers and high profiles who fought the war with Japan and in Vietnam and were all given key positions to make $$$. They are taking money for projects and doing favour. You think you know better than me?

    There is an obvious difference in reading about China from some publications claiming to know about China and having really lived in the country
    -> Only you live in China, in some remote village and claim to know China. We only read from western propaganda and they only serve to make China look bad.

    You are seriously deeply brainwashed. Maybe you should ask some of your Singapore friends to read what you and me write and let them appraise who is really brainwashed.

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  • myfirstscrew:

    Yes, China has improved a lot under Xi as opposed to Hu. The commoners have benefitted a lot under Xi, go everywhere can see.

    I find it funny that some people thought that because they know how to Google or have climbed the great wall, they, therefore, know everything about China, what a joke. lol
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    Answers:

    China has improved since the day Deng Xiao Ping decided to open up. Life has improved from then through Jiang, Hu and XJP. Dont bs about just Xi doing the merits. For your information, China worst performing economy is during Xi’s time and now while flourishing under Jiang and Hu. I think you dont study finance and economy, you only focus on the Chinese propaganda of China standing to the West because West want to undermine China’s rise. Fyi Chinese economy recent data shows that economy is less than 3% growth and worst than 1970s. The day XJP declared third term, the Chinese market slumped 100s of billions instead of rejoicing. If Xi is good, you wont see so many PRC billionaires and multi millionaires moving assets and migrating to Singapore, that includes Li Ka Shing who claimed to be a patroit!!!

    Yeah only you live in China and understand China, all of us just google and use western propaganda, we should read Chinese Daily and watch CCTV just like Mediacorp News and repeat what they told you. LOL

    Tech: Okay okay, so Xi bad bad man, so tell me, what has he done that adversely affected the commoners so much so that they have no roof over their heads, no food on the table? Name me one of the policies that does that and I will STFU over anything you post in future. aND BTW, during jIANG AND Hu’s time, the civil servants are all gangsters, how does that help improve the commoner’s life? I was already in China during Jiang and Hu’s time, we dare not even go out at night!

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  • Bad Boy:

    @ Western Shxxx

    Tsk tsk tsk.

    三国秦宓与张温舌战
    张温又问:“天有头吗?”秦宓说:“有头。《诗经》有言‘于是眷恋西望’。由此推论,头在西方。

    张温问:“太阳在东方诞生吧?”秦宓说:“虽然它诞生在东方,但最终还是归宿在西方。

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  • @myfirstscrew

    I don’t want to go through all the bull that you have been shitting so I will just cut it short and sweet. Just so I am clear, according to you, Xi has made himself the chairman of the banking, public service commission, 公检法, etc, are you sure? Do you even know how many such high-level committees are there in China that deals with national affairs? I suggest you use your cow brain for a second before even attempting to reply, say PM Lee already a PM, why should he make himself the head of the PSC, CSC, MAS and etc etc etc? You think these chairman position more powerful than his current post as PM? Like you said, if PM wanted his buddy to be a police head, those in the police service commission dare say no meh? 多此一举.

    As for you claiming you have lived in China for a long long time to enough understand China (I assume more than my 20 years in Shenzhen, GuangZhou, Beijing, Shanghai, Wuhan and some other ulu ulu towns), may I ask how long was your VISA and under what cat of VISA were you residing in China then? P/S: Quick, go use Google and cook one VISA to reply. lol

    BTW, in politics, there is no such thing as buddies forever, there is a saying in China, 你不下去, 他们怎么上来? Simple politics 101, so what pets are you talking about? Only when you are a good leader will everyone keep you there, screw up and someone will take care of you. How do you think all those big shots kenna picked up during the corruption cleaning that Xi initiated? They were sold by their own peers and subordinates, I think you already know that, don’t you?

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  • Western Shxxx:

    It’s western propaganda, enhanced. Now the sh*** can do self-propaganda without looking at western propaganda. But they work together to create a super shxxx.

    This is called, see (silent) video, write story.
    The deep philosophy is: I think so, and therefore it is so!

    myfirstscrew: BTW, which idiot told you that Hu was forcibly removed by Xi during the ceremony?
    -> I watched it slowly and carefully and observed the people near him and their reactions. They tried to forcefully lift him from the chair as he refused to leave with XJP looked irritated. If XJP is so nice and kind as u would think, he would have turned his friendly face and help since he was next to Hu. LOL… you will say its western propaganda as usual.

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  • Western Shxxx:

    The answer is obvious. Better don’t say, to avoid this.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXUvlJtCJr0

    myfirstscrew: You are seriously deeply brainwashed. Maybe you should ask some of your Singapore friends to read what you and me write and let them appraise who is really brainwashed.

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  • China very good:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaglT06UaJo

    This is the answer for people who are scared that once China is strong, it will follow America/G7′s example: impose its model on other countries, invade other countries and massacre/genocide them.

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  • myfirstscrew:

    @TR Tech

    1. You said China flourished under XJP, I told you it was beginning to flourish ever since Deng decided to open up. And under XJP now is the worst performing…. and you quickly move to many gangsters during Hu and Jiang time? What has this to do with economy? But XJP has banned all these complaints and criticisms on Social Media that they are either blacklisted or locked up. XJP is the worst performing but most powerful because he has removed all oppositions. China citizens are now experiencing impact of Covid 0 with economy sinking back to 1970s. Covid 0 you may love it or whatever, when it hits your bank account and prevent you from putting food on table, people start to complain and rebel. Its ok, China wants Covid 0, by all means… its their internal decision.

    2. Lets not kid ourselves that autocracts install their friends and make themselves leaders of all the critical things with no check and balance on themselves. Unlike Biden, he can be sued and charged in court, this will never happen in China or Singapore. This is not what I said, its all over news that XJP made himself chairman of all critical committees to ensure total control over the country. But again, you move to your toilet committee, what has this to do with your toilet committee?

    3. Your circle of friends are mostly lower tiered, talking about bread butter like many sinkies who dont know politics, only care about when they going to receive vouchers, your 20 years are spent mingling with them. You read China Daily and watch CCTV and repeat their observations. Again, what Visa i have, does it matter? There are many ways to live in China, ha ha. Sir, you can fly out every 14 days or just go to HK and stamp…. or you can get 1 month visa or you can have 1 year visa. All these can be arranged, if you pay the right price… But of course, you will say there is no corruption in China. LOL Oh please….. all these loop holes are well known.

    4. Finally, if China is so damn good like what you been promoting here, why all their rich are migrating assets out? And migrating to Singapore and elsewhere? They should be like you, have all sort of appreciation of XJP and policies and invest 100% in China. Don’t kid yourself lah….you also refuse to engage on this… because you dont have answers.

    But I am happy that XJP is running third term or limitless term and continue with Covid 0. I also hope he invade Taiwan….Then he will go down as the clown who destroy China’s growth to prosperity starting from Deng. And hopefully you live long enough to see this. LOL

    You dance from topic to topic, you dont engage directly, there is no point debating you. I gave up. OK China is the best, XJP is God and you are right.

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  • Bualasgurah:

    Needless to say, English is so far the only dominant language in the world.

    Being the dominant language commands many privileges. One of which is able to disseminate information much faster.

    Prolonged domination would result in many detrimental consequences. One of which is brain washing people mind to think only in one direction.

    Eg democracy has many flaws but English has been employed to create an impression the world over that it is the best way to rule whein fact it is not, no one on earth could use the language to persuade people to believe otherwise!

    Languages are disappearing, tanks to the dominant language. People are becoming more and more to think inside the box created by speaking English, creativity, talent, solutions to the world problems, objectivity when approaching problems…..would be lost in the years ahead! People capability to live life to the fullest will be much curtailed!

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  • @myfirstscrew

    To cut it short and sweet, your VISA game, been there, done that. Unless you have lived in China for more than 2 decades, you really should not be pretending that you know a lot. At best, you can only be said to have visited and toured China.

    Anyway, commoners like us only interested in roof over our heads and food on the table, its common throughout the world. Wealthy people like you would want to see the country as a whole, simi lansai economy lar, simi tech lar, simi business lar, simi politicss lar, fair for you, but not for us. Frankly whether China invades Taiwan or not is none of our business and my “low in the food chain friends” are not interested. We only want a stable life with basic needs covered, thats where you and I are different. When you visit KTV, you look for hostesses that wear Prada and probably with their nipples pierced with gold rings, not me. I can bonk and get to cum in her can liao, understand?

    To you, it’s “I think so, and therefore it is so”, to me, I am more realistic, I see and I experience. As long as I have the basics catered to, it’s good enough. So Xi can get re-elected for another 10 terms, I am happy because at least he can give us a normal and adequate life, nevermind the supposed fact that he wants to squeeze and slap the rich.

    Oh btw, just about 2km away from my estate, is a former ISD senior officer who was the IO for Teo’s case. He has been in China for 30 years (after retirement) on and off and he agrees with mostly what I said. He has a few apartments in Beijing, Shanghai and even in the city that I am based in. So he also “shallow” and “uneducated” like me?

    Whatever, to each his own.

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  • xoxo:

    @TRE Tech

    What you said is very true.
    Only when we live in a country long enough,e only have a *glimpse* of whats inside.
    Much like in Sg.
    Only older tru blu sgs experience first hand the CHANGE/S ,good or bad.
    Even a petty thing like hawker food.
    Many new birds think our hawker food damn good,damn cheap?

    Older,sgs like me know best.

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  • Western Shxxx:

    Don’t be so naive lah. Very rich people invest in many countries. Americans do it. British do it. Singaporeans also so it.

    myfirstscrew: 4. Finally, if China is so damn good like what you been promoting here, why all their rich are migrating assets out? And migrating to Singapore and elsewhere? They should be like you, have all sort of appreciation of XJP and policies and invest 100% in China. Don’t kid yourself lah….you also refuse to engage on this… because you dont have answers.

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  • idontbelieveinccpbs:

    Looks like TR Tech is always moving target when countered by a guy who actually knows China but have different opinions.

    He asked him what Visa? And he told him the Visa game and corruption.. and then he said he only toured China? The guy also lived in China on a Visa game, so living in China on VISA game is not the same as him living in China with a partner VISA? So if u live in China on a VISA game, you are considered not living in China but touring China. So this man has toured China for years and dont know China unless he has partner visa like TR Tech?… LOL he does not know real China unlike TR Tech. What does this VISA game has to do with XJP and his lousy polices?? LOL

    He then said the IO from Singapore with a few properties know China and agree with him? People with properties know China? Any brainwashed selling vegetables or picking rubbish in China or Singapore would agree with TR Tech. No need to own properties lah. This guy is saying he interacted with high circles (govt related business men and officials) in China to come to conclusion about China’s govt and policy making, not just some IO who owns condos in China and know China through reading China Daily and watching CCTV.

    TR Tech also never answer why so many China rich are running away from China??? Why so good, they running to Singapore and elsewhere?

    There is no head and tail to the counter arguments. I also give up debating.

    Tech: For someone who has no idea what toying with VISA is, you really should not be commenting on this subject. I NEVER had to pay an extra cent to corruptly get a VISA (one year), it is always through the embassy in Hong Kong and subsequently at local Foreign Affairs. So just because he did and was involved in corruption means he knows China inside out? Anyone who truely knows China should not even be toying with the VISA at all and would have known where to get one without paying extra.

    Anyway, to quench your thirst for answers, here my take on the rich, maybe they think Sinkieland or some other places can offer them more pros hostesses that wears Prada and have a gold-plated a$$e, who knows? Simply a case of to each his own. As for the argument that just because you wine and dine with say Jack ma, that makes you a high-class commoner? Pathetic and lame argument, IMHO.

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  • ah seng:

    https://sg.bullshitter.com/news/china-economic-slowdown-drag-asia-010131908.html

    Investors fled Chinese stocks earlier this week after President Xi Jinping broke long-standing precedent to seal a third term in power, fuelling fears that virus lockdowns and other measures harmful to the economy would continue.

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  • Dee:

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-27/xi-s-6-trillion-rout-shows-china-markets-serve-the-party-first?utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_medium=social&utm_content=business&cmpid=socialflow-facebook-business&utm_source=facebook

    Happy for XJP and China.

    Markets
    Xi’s $6 Trillion Rout Shows China Markets Serve the Party First
    Attracting capital seen less important than Xi’s ideology

    28 October 2022 at 07:00 GMT+8
    China’s marriage of communism and capitalism has for four decades powered the country’s economic rise and lined the pockets of money managers from New York to London and Shanghai. The union was so paradoxical that it was only a matter of time before the two ideologies clashed.

    And clash they did, in a spectacular, $6 trillion stock-market blowup that came to a head this week after President Xi Jinping secured a third term surrounded exclusively by close allies. Xi’s consolidation of power scared off international funds who had hoped the Communist Party’s new leadership would include market-friendly officials known to be more sympathetic to ideas such as transparency and liberalization.

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    @ Anyway, commoners like us only interested in roof over our heads and food on the table, its common throughout the world.

    This is 簡單的說法. Macro simple but micro different.
    Life is never simple. Yeah, For some lucky ones very simple.

    Even going to coffeeshop to drink a coffee or tea also not simple. You do a plan list. Maybe on the way pick up some groceries or daily goods or whatever. So you dont have to walk again another round. Or top up mobile data or go to the bank.

    You look at our chinese funeral versus Indian or Malay ones. Sometime like lights show. Or music show or even lion dance show.

    Tech: Yes, it was a general feeling among those (low class) I know, not applicable to those who bonks hostesses that wear Prada and have pierced nipples. lol

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  • The first screw confirmed 2 things

    1. There is corruption in China.

    2. Rich running away because XJP is hammering them with more laws and restrictions.

    But TR Tech would divert from these conclusions talking about paying more or paying corrupt officials and even said they are moving to SG for Hostess and Prada.

    Tech: Why are you putting words in my mouth? Which ear, left side or right side did you hear me say there is no corruption in China? Also, ther rich run away I also say its their perogative, to each his own. Which part of my statement you do not understand?

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  • Western Shxxx:

    Typical western propaganda, really fits the appetite of western shxxx. World economic slowdown? Blame China. The obvious big cause? Pretend not to see.

    ah seng:
    https://sg.*****.com/news/china-economic-slowdown-drag-asia-010131908.html

    Investors fled Chinese stocks earlier this week after President Xi Jinping broke long-standing precedent to seal a third term in power, fuelling fears that virus lockdowns and other measures harmful to the economy would continue.

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  • A rose by whatever name:

    Afternoon@yahoo.com:
    The first screw confirmed 2 things

    1. There is corruption in China.

    2. Rich running away because XJP is hammering them with more laws and restrictions.

    But TR Tech would divert from these conclusions talking about paying more or paying corrupt officials and even said they are moving to SG for Hostess and Prada.

    Tech: Why are you putting words in my mouth? Which ear, left side or right side did you hear me say there is no corruption in China? Also, ther rich run away I also say its their perogative, to each his own. Which part of my statement you do not understand?

    PAP is even more corrupt. PAP pays upfront, S$m pa, to its own people so that they are never caught.

    Under Mr Xi, and those great leaders before him, anyone caught with corruption for sure jailed and/or must pay RMB10 for the bullet that goes into their head.

    In sinkie land, no such thing lah. OPPO hold signboard, guilty. PAP hold signboard, ok. OPPO ask questions, never get answer. PAP ask questions, ownself ask ownself answer.

    Worst of all in sinkie land, PAP abuses sinkie money to pay for PAP states times. Every sinkie is so happy with it they voted PAP again every time there is a GE.

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  • While the Pappies Prosper....:

    We’re kind of fortunate you’re not President of Singapore Mr. Tan, because you’re constantly forwarding your point of view on the political economy of the mainland China without due philosophical sophistication… but come to think of it a Milo president has been delegated into that place, and we’ve no idea what’s in her own mind…. haven’t heard a single significant point of view at all….

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  • knnn:

    Lucky TKL was not selected as EP, he is another PAPPY/CCP type admirer with little brains. But again, he is not moving to China…

    His arguments are so shallow with little evidence or back up from news/research etc.

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    TRE Tech: Anyway, commoners like us only interested in roof over our heads and food on the table, its common throughout the world.

    This must make sticky and flash on every topics post.

    Yes, commoners just want roof over our heads and food on the table.

    And it is the same throughout the world.

    Vote PAP. Only PAP could put a roof over your head and food on your table.

    Voting for self preservation is not selfish nor self centered.
    Why Hungarian voted for autocratic PM Viktor Orban?
    Because PM Viktor Orban promised:
    1. not to send Hungarian soldiers to Ukraine to be evil Americunt canon fodders.
    Facts#1:
    Gen. Jack Keane: We are not doing the fight. We are funding it. US’ $66 billion investment in Ukraine is well worth it.
    https://bit.ly/3zvtwoV
    Facts#2:
    “We paid only 66 billion for Ukrainians to die for US interests in the war with Russia”
    https://bit.ly/3DlJeEb

    2. cheaper Russian gas for Hungarians.
    Facts#3
    https://bit.ly/3NlnpJB
    “This isn’t our war, we have to stay out of it,” Orban said Friday to hundreds of supporters in the central Hungarian city of Szekesfehervar. “We can stay out by not sending soldiers or weapons, and not allowing arms shipments through Hungary’s territory, because then we’ll immediately become a military target.”

    Let’s debate. Is the Hungarian wrong in voting for self preservation ?

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  • P Against People:

    The Hungarians are right! Your pappy master is wrong. Singapore is now listed by Russia as an unfriendly country.

    Singaporeans R Free Riders: “This isn’t our war, we have to stay out of it,” Orban said Friday to hundreds of supporters in the central Hungarian city of Szekesfehervar. “We can stay out by not sending soldiers or weapons, and not allowing arms shipments through Hungary’s territory, because then we’ll immediately become a military target.”

    Let’s debate. Is the Hungarian wrong in voting for self preservation ?

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