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The conflict that has dragged on too long

I read with sadness the Editorial, “The conflict that has dragged on too long” (ST, Dec 6).

Undoubtedly, any war is disastrous, having no advantages whatsoever.

Besides the huge loss of “countless” lives (including humans: civilians and military soldiers, and animals), crops, precious properties and catastrophic damage to the earth planet, the Ukraine war have created indescribable fears and tremendous negative sequelae to the world.

Since war is so terrible, and it has detrimental consequences. Then, why Russia wants to wage/initiate war against Ukraine?

There are two main possible reasons:

Russia feels that its sovereignty, territory and national interests would be threatened, as Ukraine had expressed its intention and had been planning to join NATO. Once Ukraine joins NATO, NATO could deploy its nuclear weapons at the doorstep of Russia.

The long and complicated historical entanglement between Russia and Ukraine have provided a golden opportunity for Vladimir Putin to “liberate and rescue” the Russian ethnicity in the territories of Ukraine, and fulfilling Putin’s ambition to glorify the history of the old United States of Soviet Union.

Needless to say, the Ukraine war has dragged for more than nine months still never shed light on any negotiation of peace.

We need to ask a pertinent key question: Why Putin or Volodymyr Oleksandrovych Zelenskyy is not sick and tired of the heinous war?

I believe both of them (or the both countries) wish to end the war in a way that preserving their own prestige and dignity.

However, for the near-term, it shows no good sign of it.

Nevertheless, if the Ukraine war is aimed or expected to be shortened/ended, I assume the following could be the “Wish List” for the both countries, Russia and Ukraine: -

Of course, on the Russia’s side, Putin intrinsically wish that the international community, especially the US and its close allies could lift their economic sanctions on Russia, and release all the frozen or confiscated financial assets which belong to him and his fellow officials.

Simultaneously, he might want a mutually agreed treaty to be formulated which will restrict Ukraine to accede to NATO permanently.

On the Ukraine side, Zelenskyy might wish all the cities (Donetsk, Luhansk and Zaporizhzhia) which had been captured or annexed by the Russian Federation to be unconditionally returned.

Ukraine also hopes that external financial assistance will be rendered from IMF (The International Monetary Fund), US and NATO to help Ukraine facilitating its redevelopment or rebuilding of its vastly destroyed cities in all aspects if the war ends.

Despite all the above, the international community also hope that Ukraine and Russia could uphold their sincerity and quickly resolve their resentments, grievances or old scores at the negotiation table. This will greatly facilitate the stability of world order, oil prices, foods supply and the vibrancy of global supply chain.
 
 
Teo Kueh Liang (Mr)

 

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85 Responses to “The conflict that has dragged on too long”

  • Soccerbetting2:

    To stop this war,only one way ,and that is Ukraine surrender and USA backed off its support.Russia certainly has zero possibility of backed off,right ? And remember don’t donate to support Ukraine else ukraine won’t surrender and war won’t stop.Only donate to Ukraine when war ended else Russia may take revenge for helping Ukraine.Russia already view Singapore in a poor light for Singapore stupid women wing previous support of Ukraine.

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  • No more trust:

    Merkel has admitted deception over Minsk peace deal – Russia
    The former German chancellor has disclosed that the accords were meant to ‘give time’ for Ukraine to strengthen its military.

    Former German Chancellor Angela Merkel has confirmed her government’s duplicity regarding the conflict in Ukraine by confirming that the 2014 ceasefire agreement was meant to give Kiev time to build up its military, Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova has said.

    In an interview with Zeit magazine published on Wednesday, Merkel said that the Minsk protocol brokered by Germany and France was “an attempt to give Ukraine time,” which it used to “become stronger” as evidenced on the battlefield now. She was referring to the first of the two documents known collectively as the “Minsk agreements” that were designed to help Kiev reconcile with rebels in the east, who had rejected the outcome of an armed coup in the capital in 2014.

    Berlin and “by extension, the West” never intended to implement the Minsk agreements, Zakharova concluded based on Merkel’s remarks. The US and its allies “simulated supporting the UN Security Council resolution” which endorsed the roadmap to peace while pumping weapons into Ukraine and “ignored all crimes committed by the Kiev regime … for the sake of a decisive strike against Russia,” she explained in a social media post on Thursday.

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  • Asd:

    I think writer wants a fast nuclear war

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  • myfirstscrew:

    You are a clown honestly, you want the war to end because of your interest. You dont even write sense or even logic.

    1. Nuclear proximity, there are several NATO countries next to Russia. If they want to place Nuclear, they already did. You dont even study geography, then come to BS us.

    2. Want to liberate Russians in Ukraine? A clown that cannot think may tell us this. There are millions of Malaysians living in Singapore and Indians and PRCs. So Malaysia, India and China should liberate them by attacking Singapore.

    You want the war to end because you are affected, thats your summary. Btw, whether the war end or not end, COE will not drop, BTO will still rise above million, SP will not lower their utility bill, Rental will not drop… These parts you probably over look. Yeah PAPPY tell you all these are due to war, you actually believe their bs.

    Your article is complete full of bs with no critical thinking.

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  • TheObelisk:

    The only way to stop this is for Europe to have balls, and I don’t mean the unelected bureaucrats in BRU.

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  • xoxo:

    Maybe the angmoh democracy supporters here
    CAN VOLUNTEER to go to Ukraine to help chase away the russian *communists* instead of talking nonsense here?

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  • Surrender?:

    There’s the only solution.

    Either Ukraine surrender, disarm, and get closely monitored by Russia.
    Or Russia lose badly, and nuclear bombs are activated.

    For the world, including Ukrainians, the first solution is the only solution.

    Soccerbetting2:
    To stop this war,only one way ,and that is Ukraine surrender and USA backed off its support.Russia certainly has zero possibility of backed off,right ? And remember don’t donate to support Ukraine else ukraine won’t surrender and war won’t stop.Only donate to Ukraine when war ended else Russia may take revenge for helping Ukraine.Russia already view Singapore in a poor light for Singapore stupid women wing previous support of Ukraine.

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    Ah Teo ah, why end the war so soon when your In God We Tru$t Americunts are the only party benefitting. Yes, only the Amercunts are benefitting it.

    This what In God We Tru$t benefitted:

    Facts#1
    Americunt exploit EU by selling LNG gas at 4 time the price…
    https://saharareporters.com/2022/10/11/ukraine-war-us-taking-advantage-energy-crisis-exploit-eu-selling-gas-four-times-price

    And instigating others to go to war and died so that they Americunt$ profit from arms sales killing millions of people?

    Facts#2:
    We paid only 66 billion for Ukrainians to die for US interests in the war with Russia. US’ $66 billion investment in Ukraine is well worth it.
    https://bit.ly/3FhzdJl

    https://bit.ly/3zvtwoV

    A peaceful religion indeed..Glory be with the dollars

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  • Asd:

    I think its not russia or Ukraine but it is usa who don’t want Russia to sell gas to Europe but they themselves want to sell their lng to Europe so the problem created by usa via using nato membership as bait

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  • MarBowling:

    All concerned GLOBAL folks may want the Holee Russo-Ukraine to end ASAP! Fat Hope. It will ONLY END or SHORTEN unless the Military Defense Industries of UNLCE SAM and NATO THINK that they have ALREADY made ENOUGH Obscene MONEY out of the PROXY War currently raging on in Ukraine. Btw SINKAPORE is also a Lapdog of Uncle Sam led-party SECRETLY contributing arms and equipment to Monica Zelensky.

    Btw our World Class Defense Minister, Chicken HEN is expecting a double or triple bonus packet from Mai Hum this year end for FOLLOWING ORDERS! So too are those jokers who imposed sanctions on 4 Russian banks here!

    Btw, History has shown that Russia ALWAYS WIN whenever any Holee War is waged in the Cold Winter!

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  • NotMyProblem:

    “…. the Ukraine war has dragged for more than nine months still never shed light on any negotiation of peace.”

    What negotiation of peace? All it needs is for the invader to stop the invasion and there will be peace!

    There is nothing the defender could do if the invader keeping fighting!

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    Asd:
    I think its not russia or Ukraine but it is usa who don’t want Russia to sell gas to Europe but they themselves want to sell their lng to Europe so the problem created by usa via using nato membership as bait

    Yes, Americunt use nato membership as bait and the corrupted and stopid Zelensky bite it…

    Watch the hard truth here.
    烏克蘭被出賣 Americunt betrays Ukraine.
    https://bit.ly/3VkZ3Tl

    Ukrainian has no one to blame but themselves who voted in a stopid Opposition Zelensky.

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  • Legions:

    Pariahment should pass a law allowing a team of Singapore legions or individuals to support the Ukraine war against the Russians!

    This will horne our soldiers in the ‘art of war’.

    So that our generals are no longer known as ‘paper’ generals!

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  • Asd:

    I think the writer don’t understand it is the west that is the problem they kpkb cannot burn coal but now this winter they burning they kpkb free market but now want to cap oil.price at $60 go study history to know who are the aggressors and what they looted from other weak countries

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  • Peace:

    The only way to stop the war is to increase the damage to the invader’s land/army camp like the one that uses the drone to destroy the air force aircraft.

    So far Russia is happily destroying Ukraine building, school homes and farms.

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  • Common:

    Buttin. Should go stay where warhead not facing him! Problem solved!

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  • Paris&Germany, pay up:

    France and Germany owe ‘genocide compensation’ to Donbass – Moscow
    The Ukraine crisis is a result of the EU nations’ deceitful policies, Vyacheslav Volodin claims.

    Berlin and Paris should pay reparations to the Donbass civilians who have been suffering Ukrainian attacks since 2014, according to Vyacheslav Volodin, the speaker of the State Duma – Russia’s lower house of parliament.

    His comments came after former German chancellor Angela Merkel admitted that the Minsk peace agreements had been just a ploy to provide Kiev with enough time to build up its military.

    Merkel’s confession means that Berlin and Paris – who brokered the deal – “bear moral and material responsibility for what is happening in Ukraine,” Volodin wrote on Telegram on Saturday.

    The premeditated failure to fulfill obligations under the accords constitutes “not only a loss of trust, but also a crime for which the signatories of the Minsk agreements – Merkel, [former French president Francois] Hollande, and [former Ukrainian president Pyotr] Poroshenko – must answer,” he stated.

    “They will have to pay compensation to the residents of Donbass for eight years of genocide and damages,” Volodin added.

    According to the MP, the ongoing Ukraine crisis has been brought about by “the deceitful policies” pursued by the French and German leaders.

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  • SGrunner:

    Dumb Teo Kueh Liang, you worried too much!

    Latest report on Putin mentioned his serious intention to go exile (Plan “Noah’s Ark”) in a few places: Argentina, South America, and even considered China.

    But, China was ruled out because the Chinese will not be kind to losers. Who knows will export him in containers to US if Putin dares to ‘evacuate’ to China?

    Thus, Russia is no longer a threat, its time to finish up the unfinished job on red commie China. Unless Xi decided to destroy CCP with his own hands, Xi might not have good ending, no better than Putin.

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  • SGrunner:

    Read so many interesting characters here, yours most interesting!
    Dotard.
    The one who started war is Russia, but, now you say US and NATO is making a lot of war $$$. So what if it is truth? Russia provided the opportunity! Even China is making heaps out of it.

    And btw, Russia always wins war in cold winter? You still living in WWII era?
    Hello… go do some proper research on modern warfare okie? Winter is already here, by mar 2023, we will know if you are god damned right!

    MarBowling:
    All concerned GLOBAL folks may want the Holee Russo-Ukraine to end ASAP! Fat Hope. It will ONLY END or SHORTEN unless the Military Defense Industries of UNLCE SAM and NATO THINK that they have ALREADY made ENOUGH Obscene MONEY out of the PROXY War currently raging on in Ukraine. Btw SINKAPORE is also a Lapdog of Uncle Sam led-party SECRETLY contributing arms and equipment to Monica Zelensky.

    Btw our World Class Defense Minister, Chicken HEN is expecting a double or triple bonus packet from Mai Hum this year end for FOLLOWING ORDERS! So too are those jokers who imposed sanctions on 4 Russian banks here!

    Btw, History has shown that Russia ALWAYS WIN whenever any Holee War is waged in the Cold Winter!

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  • SGrunner:

    I 100% agree with you, should send our paper generals to Ukraine-Russia battle field to proof their STARS worth. Also SG pays hundreds of thousand a year on one general, they need to proof their worth.

    Legions:
    Pariahment should pass a law allowing a team of Singapore legions or individuals to support the Ukraine war against the Russians!

    This will horne our soldiers in the ‘art of war’.

    So that our generals are no longer known as ‘paper’ generals!

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  • dave:

    SGrunner:
    Dumb Teo Kueh Liang, you worried too much!

    Latest report on Putin mentioned his serious intention to go exile (Plan “Noah’s Ark”) in a few places: Argentina, South America, and even considered China.

    But, China was ruled out because the Chinese will not be kind to losers. Who knows will export him in containers to US if Putin dares to ‘evacuate’ to China?

    Thus, Russia is no longer a threat, its time to finish up the unfinished job on red commie China. Unless Xi decided to destroy CCP with his own hands, Xi might not have good ending, no better than Putin.

    American paid operative is back in another nick.

    We will exposed you. You cannot hide.

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  • War:

    In War the people suffer.
    No winner.
    Better to stop it….UN not working ?

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  • LN:

    The writer , Teo Kueh Liang (Mr)

    “…….. the international community also hope that Ukraine and Russia could uphold their sincerity and quickly resolve their resentments, grievances or old scores at the negotiation table. ……..”

    Many are not aware , Ukraine is only a proxy for the hegemon , US. To get more accurate information on the situation of the Ukraine _RF’s SMO , I suggest you please read below link by MoA and

    Moon Of Alabama. MoA

    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/12/ukraine-sitrep-catastrophic-losses-failing-wonder-weapons-nato-escalation.html

    Catastrophic Losses, Failing Wonder Weapons, NATO Escalation (MoA)

    And regular updates :https://www.moonofalabama.org
    :

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  • UN is good:

    UN is a good place to gather all your running dogs and go hunting. Bark ferociously until the victims run into the open. Then the shots begin.

    War:
    In War the people suffer.
    No winner.
    Better to stop it….UN not working ?

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  • Soccerbetting2:

    Watch this Tik Tok on Russia-Ukraine US involved war.Link -”https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS8NDqhPt/”

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  • nathan chen:

    The end of this war will only cease when countries dare to nuke Russia proper.

    Russia President seems willing to take the first strike but the rest of the world is reluctant.

    If US, NATO,and US allies don’t make the first, Putin will strike first and to hell with the consequence.

    Presently there are no political, diplomatic, only full scale military operation.

    The world cannot keep on appeasing Putin too long.

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  • Idiot:

    Stupid. Nuke on Russia means nuke on USA and NATO countries. 1000s of nuclear bombs exploding. Your ass would be vaporized.

    nathan chen:
    The end of this war will only cease when countries dare to nuke Russia proper.

    Russia President seems willing to take the first strike but the rest of the world is reluctant.

    If US, NATO,and US allies don’t make the first, Putin will strike first ssiand to hell with the consequence.

    Presently there are no political, diplomatic, only full scale military operation.

    The world cannot keep on appeasing Putin too long.

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  • Soccerbetting2:

    Russia Ukraine war won’t kill us .Watch this Tik Tok -”https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS8NCASm9/”and see what will kill us .

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  • Soccerbetting2:

    The conflict that has drag on for too long ???? No ,not long.This maybe just the begining going to last few years more,who knows ?

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  • Soccerbetting2:

    Watch this recent news on Ukraine Russia war ?Putin score another victory -”https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS8NC4J6E/”

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  • idontbelieveinccpbs:

    Putin wants to end but he wants to keep what has invaded.
    Zelensky does not want to let go of any land.

    Go think about this, if you are Zelensky, what do you want? People attack your home and take your things and now they said as long as you ok with the stolen items and let go, we can pretend nothing has happened.

    Would you?

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  • myfirstscrew:

    If you are citizens of Ukraine, would you agree to end? I dont think so.

    People here are calling them to negotiate because their lives are impacted. Not because the war is dragging too long or too many people died. Their own personal and selfish reasons.

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  • Real democracy:

    When the Americans start a war, it is meant to last for decades. Vietnam War lasted 30 years. Afghan Invasion lasted 20 years, fighting tribesmen wearing sandals looking after goats but called a threat to America.

    The Invasions of Iraq and Syria are still going on for more than 10 years and do not seem to end. Everyone forgot about the reason for invading Iraq? WMD, but proven a lie. But the American soldiers are still there. fighting what now?

    Ideally the Ukrainian War should last for 30 years to keep the American war industries busy and making more money without losing the lives of American boys and girls. Fight to the last Ukrainians.

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  • Real democracy:

    nathan chen:
    The end of this war will only cease when countries dare to nuke Russia proper.

    Russia President seems willing to take the first strike but the rest of the world is reluctant.

    If US, NATO,and US allies don’t make the first, Putin will strike first and to hell with the consequence.

    Presently there are no political, diplomatic, only full scale military operation.

    The world cannot keep on appeasing Putin too long.

    What drug are you smoking?

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  • Real democracy:

    idontbelieveinccpbs:
    Putin wants to end but he wants to keep what has invaded.
    Zelensky does not want to let go of any land.

    Go think about this, if you are Zelensky, what do you want? People attack your home and take your things and now they said as long as you ok with the stolen items and let go, we can pretend nothing has happened.

    Would you?

    You are still here. You can’t hide no matter what nick you are using.

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  • nathan:

    @ Real Democracy.

    Go and ask your grandfather or father, if you are still young,how the second World War ended. Just needed 2 hydrogen bombs.One in Hiroshima. One in Nagasaki to wake up the Emperor, the Imperial Army of Japan.After this the World has enjoy peace.

    Putin’s Russia had been considerably weaken, since the start of the Ukraine war nine months ago.

    A nuclear war with Russia need not necessarily leads to a devastating Third World war.

    The US and NATO have overestimate the nuclear capability of Putin. The World super military power have even gone as far
    as sacrifying Ukraine to avert a nuclear war with Putin. Putin won’t be satisfied with just Ukraine.He will engage in more insane and criminal wars with countries near and far.

    The world must use it’s combined military to bring Putin’s to his knees.

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    Real democracy:
    When the Americans start a war, it is meant to last for decades. Vietnam War lasted 30 years. Afghan Invasion lasted 20 years, fighting tribesmen wearing sandals looking after goats but called a threat to America.

    The Invasions of Iraq and Syria are still going on for more than 10 years and do not seem to end. Everyone forgot about the reason for invading Iraq? WMD, but proven a lie. But the American soldiers are still there. fighting what now?

    Ideally the Ukrainian War should last for 30 years to keep the American war industries busy and making more money without losing the lives of American boys and girls. Fight to the last Ukrainians.

    Well said..

    You are NOT SWALLOWING all the cream, lies I meant from white man.

    You are definitely NOT CANON FODDER material.

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  • Real democracy:

    nathan:
    @ Real Democracy.

    Putin won’t be satisfied with just Ukraine.He will engage in more insane and criminal wars with countries near and far.

    The world must use it’s combined military to bring Putin’s to his knees.

    You confused Putin with the Americans and NATO. They are not satisfied with just all the former Soviet Union states and Ukraine. They are insane and wanted to run over Russia and China. The world must put an end to the warmongering of the Americans and NATO.

    Is this too difficult for you to grasp?

    The 2 A bombs ended the war because no one else had A bombs then. Does this statement makes you wiser?

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  • MarBowling:

    Singaporeans R Free Riders:
    December 13, 2022 at 9:39 pm (Quote)
    Real democracy:
    When the Americans start a war, it is meant to last for decades. Vietnam War lasted 30 years. Afghan Invasion lasted 20 years, fighting tribesmen wearing sandals looking after goats but called a threat to America.
    The Invasions of Iraq and Syria are still going on for more than 10 years and do not seem to end. Everyone forgot about the reason for invading Iraq? WMD, but proven a lie. But the American soldiers are still there. fighting what now?
    Ideally the Ukrainian War should last for 30 years to keep the American war industries busy and making more money without losing the lives of American boys and girls. Fight to the last Ukrainians.
    Well said..

    You are NOT SWALLOWING all the cream, lies I meant from white man.

    You are definitely NOT CANON FODDER material.

    Response: WOW! BESTEST, GREATEST and MOST INSIGHTFUL Comments of year 2022 by Real democracy! And not forgetting the parting words by Singaporeans R Free Riders!

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  • Idontbelieve...:

    US has not killed any Asian since WW1. Those HYDROGEN bombs must be from Russia’s secret advance lab.

    “After this the World has enjoyed peace.” This I believe. The World has enjoyed peace since WW2. Absolutely zero wars around the earth.

    nathan: Go and ask your grandfather or father, if you are still young,how the second World War ended. Just needed 2 hydrogen bombs.One in Hiroshima. One in Nagasaki to wake up the Emperor, the Imperial Army of Japan.After this the World has enjoy peace.

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  • WW3. UK attacking Russia:

    UK admits it sent troops to Ukraine
    The Royal Marines took part in “discreet operations” several months into the conflict, a senior general stated.

    British Royal Marines conducted high-risk operations in Ukraine in April, Lieutenant General Robert Magowan wrote in the force’s official journal. Before Magowan’s admission, Russia’s claims that NATO troops were active in Ukraine had been dismissed by Western analysts and media.

    Members of 45 Commando Group of the Royal Marines left Ukraine in January after evacuating the British embassy in Kiev to Poland. However, some 300 members of the elite unit were sent back into the country in April to reestablish the British mission in Kiev, before going on to conduct “other discreet operations,” Magowan wrote in the force’s magazine, according to a report by The Times on Tuesday.

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  • Real democracy:

    Idontbelieve...:
    US has not killed any Asian since WW1. Those HYDROGEN bombs must be from Russia’s secret advance lab.

    “After this the World has enjoyed peace.” This I believe. The World has enjoyed peace since WW2. Absolutely zero wars around the earth.

    The Korean War, a few hundred thousand of Chinese and North Koreas were killed by the Americans.

    The Vietnam War, a few hundred thousand of Vietnamese were killed by the Americans.

    The Afghan Invasion, a few hundred thousand of Afghans were killed by the Americans.

    They are all Asians. The Syrians and Iraqis are also Asians, west Asia. The Pakistans and Iranians are also Asians. The Americans have yet to be charged for war crimes and crimes against humanity and violation of human rights in these countries.

    The Americans have been fighting wars continuously since the Korea war in 1950. Non stop wars. One after another and still fighting in the Middle East and of course Ukraine.

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  • Idontbelieve...:

    Bad Nathan. Knn, I say I believe you, and I get a good lesson on American wars. Now Idontbelieve you. Very lack of truth.

    Someone also say nitrogen bombs. He says no such bombs on Hiroshima and not on Nagasaki. Don’t know you, your father or your grandfather got it wrong.

    nathan: Go and ask your grandfather or father, if you are still young,how the second World War ended. Just needed 2 hydrogen bombs.One in Hiroshima. One in Nagasaki to wake up the Emperor, the Imperial Army of Japan.After this the World has enjoy peace.

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  • Soccerbetting2:

    Watch a joke on Tik Tok -”https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSJwRNw4q/”

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  • xoxo:

    This is NO WAR!
    Its just one-sided intrusion.
    War is like how Israelites fight back and COUNTER-ATTACK into intruder’s land.
    Americano$ only talk cock to XJP as they know XJP is not mad like a RusPUTIN?

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    Real democracy: The Korean War, a few hundred thousand of Chinese and North Koreas were killed by the Americans.

    The Vietnam War, a few hundred thousand of Vietnamese were killed by the Americans.

    The Afghan Invasion, a few hundred thousand of Afghans were killed by the Americans.

    They are all Asians. The Syrians and Iraqis are also Asians, west Asia. The Pakistans and Iranians are also Asians. The Americans have yet to be charged for war crimes and crimes against humanity and violation of human rights in these countries.

    The Americans have been fighting wars continuously since the Korea war in 1950. Non stop wars. One after another and still fighting in the Middle East and of course Ukraine.

    YES, The Americans have yet to be charged for war crimes and crimes against humanity and violation of human rights in these countries.

    Up for you.
    Facts#1:
    We paid only 66 billion for Ukrainians to die for US interests in the war with Russia. US’ $66 billion investment in Ukraine is well worth it.
    https://bit.ly/3FhzdJl

    https://bit.ly/3zvtwoV

    Facts#2
    Former Trump adviser John Bolton admits to planning foreign coups
    https://bit.ly/3PwJ3KR

    And the biggest lie is Iraq has Weapon of Mass Destruction. Where ?

    Oh..the canon fodders, oops I meant Pro Democracy will twist it and say it is for The greatest good for the greatest number of people and this has for a long time been the guiding principle of a democracy.

    And for whose greater good ? for the Americunt good of course…it was never for your good except theirs.

    Only idiots like the Hong Kees canon fodders will believe it is for their good..

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  • All fakes:

    There are many videos reporting “great news” for various countries, east and west. I believe many are by individuals trying to attract views and ad monies.

    Latest news, Putin hiding in Peru.
    Latest news, US carriers entering Black Sea. la di di la la di

    Soccerbetting2:
    Russia Ukraine war won’t kill us .Watch this Tik Tok -”https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS8NCASm9/”and see what will kill us .

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  • Soccerbetting2:

    Watch this Tok Tok on how 46 countries spent $1 billion to help Ukraine.Germany give another $50 millions.-”https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS8F6h8jg/”

    You all wonder whether Singapore got pump any huge amount of millions behind the scene to through other countries to give to Ukraine ? I don’t know but better not !Wait till Putin become angrier with Singapore and may send his missile all the way fired from Russia halfway round the world to hit Singapore,who knows. And Singapore two submarine manufactured by Germany has delivered announced on news.No wonder Germany now so rich to give probably another $50 millions ,who knows ?

    And in another Tik Tok video got the suggestion that NATO may have the intention to attack Russia later on .Better wake up shameless woman Grace Fu,minister of substainability(should change title to Minister of Unstainability) to wake her up on food supplies to be substainable during World War 3.

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  • nathan:

    @ idiot.

    Tell me your solution to this intractable war. The candle has been burning in both ends for more than 9 months.

    There is no long-lasting political settlement in sight. All bridges have been burnt so to speak. There is no middle point or anywhere near it for an amicable resolution to end the Ukraine war. Instead, the possibility of this war extending and engulfing other nations grows by each passing days and months.

    It’s time long past to deliver an ultimatum to Putin. It’s time for the world to take the war to Russia, once and for all, including Russia’s remaining allies.

    The superpower leaders should move over and let the military experts take over.

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  • nathan:

    @ lan Jiao Real Democracy.

    After 9 months of Putin madness, brutality and military aggression in Ukraine, you are still insisting Putin is justified in his failed attempt invasion of Ukraine. You are the one who is confused not me, not the US, NATO, EU members and all the breakaway states of the former Soviet Union and last but not least, the rest of the world. Putin is a real threat to the world peace and stability including his own motherland Russia. You must be a sicko to think any other way to support Putin. And don’t you dare deny it. The evidence are in all your posts here.

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  • Real democracy:

    nathan:
    @ lan Jiao Real Democracy.

    After 9 months of Putin madness, brutality and military aggression in Ukraine, you are still insisting Putin is justified in his failed attempt invasion of Ukraine. You are the one who is confused not me, not the US, NATO, EU members and all the breakaway states of the former Soviet Union and last but not least, the rest of the world. Putin is a real threat to the world peace and stability including his own motherland Russia. You must be a sicko to think any other way to support Putin. And don’t you dare deny it. The evidence are in all your posts here.

    The Americans still paying you to write such rubbish and thinking people did not know where you are coming from?

    The greatest threat to world peace is the warmongering Americans. Who are you trying to bluff? Everywhere the Americans are starting fires and fighting wars. You want to be the resident American mouthpiece here, not so easy. Everyone knows who you really are.

    Tech has noted down your IP.

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  • idontbelieveinccpbs:

    Not so sure why some clowns here keep referring to middle east countries such as Syria, Iran, Afghan etc? Are the citizens there happier now? Or are they suffering? Afghan fallen after US withdrawal, are they better off or worst off?

    Putin his face is more important than withdrawal, he wants negotiation to start when he is allowed to keep his gain. Would you agree if u are Ukraine?
    Whether NATO has expanded or not, it does not give any reason for anyone to attack another country. Even at war, why do they hurt innocent? And those rapes, those killing of innocent civilians and destroying infrastructure are only what animals will do.

    People who support Russia doing this to innocent are probably sick and selfcentred.

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  • Western worshiper:

    What do you know about war? You even believe US was not in any war in Asia since WW1.

    You must be a US puppy. You pretend to be against war, but you love US war in Iraq, Afghan. You also pretend that US wars there did not kill innocent or rape people.

    Go eat a bone from the garbage.

    idontbelieveinccpbs:
    Not so sure why some clowns here keep referring to middle east countries such as Syria, Iran, Afghan etc? Are the citizens there happier now? Or are they suffering? Afghan fallen after US withdrawal, are they better off or worst off?

    Putin his face is more important than withdrawal, he wants negotiation to start when he is allowed to keep his gain. Would you agree if u are Ukraine?
    Whether NATO has expanded or not, it does not give any reason for anyone to attack another country. Even at war, why do they hurt innocent? And those rapes, those killing of innocent civilians and destroying infrastructure are only what animals will do.

    People who support Russia doing this to innocent are probably sick and selfcentred.

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  • dave:

    idontbelieveinccpbs:
    Not so sure why some clowns here keep referring to middle east countries such as Syria, Iran, Afghan etc? Are the citizens there happier now? Or are they suffering? Afghan fallen after US withdrawal, are they better off or worst off?

    Putin his face is more important than withdrawal, he wants negotiation to start when he is allowed to keep his gain. Would you agree if u are Ukraine?
    Whether NATO has expanded or not, it does not give any reason for anyone to attack another country. Even at war, why do they hurt innocent? And those rapes, those killing of innocent civilians and destroying infrastructure are only what animals will do.

    People who support Russia doing this to innocent are probably sick and selfcentred.

    You changed your nick again. We are watching every one of your posts. You have been exposed. Stop deluding yourself that people here did not know who you are.

    American operative.

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  • xoxo:

    Angmohs say we’re as white asnow.
    Some diehard believers say die die we believe so!
    We,observers,say we dont know.
    It doesn’t seem so.
    Only God knows.
    White is good is a lie!

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  • Western agent:

    Yes, that one must be an agent with a mission. Nobody can be that ignorant.

    dave: You changed your nick again. We are watching every one of your posts. You have been exposed. Stop deluding yourself that people here did not know who you are.

    American operative.

    idontbelieveinccpbs:
    Not so sure why some clowns here keep referring to middle east countries such as Syria, Iran, Afghan etc? Are the citizens there happier now? Or are they suffering? Afghan fallen after US withdrawal, are they better off or worst off?

    Putin his face is more important than withdrawal, he wants negotiation to start when he is allowed to keep his gain. Would you agree if u are Ukraine?
    Whether NATO has expanded or not, it does not give any reason for anyone to attack another country. Even at war, why do they hurt innocent? And those rapes, those killing of innocent civilians and destroying infrastructure are only what animals will do.

    People who support Russia doing this to innocent are probably sick and selfcentred.

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  • nathan chen:

    @lan jioa real democracy and cb free rider.

    I am talking about earth shattering world wars like the First and Second world war. Not by the Korea Wars, the Vietnam war, or Afghan, Syria and It’s. And so many more to mention.

    Idiots.Get my point? After the two big bangs the Japanese renounced and abandon all expansionist policy Renounced, never to wage war on any country.

    You got to fight, you fight. Countries got to go to war they should go. Sanction is not going to end the war. Neither is supplying arms to Ukraine help to end the war.

    The only option is nuke Russia. If the Internation community keep on dragging it it’s feet. Putin will fire first. He will have the pleasure for taking out NATO member countries one at a time.

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  • SINGAROAR:

    The war continues because Putin refuses to return Ukraine land that he has annexed.So now sadly for the Ukrainians, their country is being used to test the capability and capacity of various weapons.It is being used as a showroom for various weapons.Both sides are also cleaning out outdated weapons.Eventually the Russians will get tired as in Afghanistan and pull out.Invasion may have been possible but occupation is not easy.Ukrainians are defending their homes so they will not concede.

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  • Maniac:

    ‘Who will blink first?’ Is nuclear war between Russia and the US possible?

    But if this war happens, it will be the last in the history of mankind, civilization will roll back to the Stone Age.

    Nathan would get his ass cooked, together with all his relatives. On the other hand, he could be a lonely man with no relatives or friends, and wants a “glorious” death.

    Mass suicidal maniac.

    Tech: IF Russia has the balls to launch a nuclear ICBM, China would shoot it down before it ever leaves Russia’s airspace. It would be absurd to even think that China is closing both eyes and not monitoring the situation or not having its warheads pointed at Russia, IMHO.

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  • xoxo:

    The world needs messengers of PEACE ,not envoys of war.
    Putin will have to pay for his transgressìon.
    Biden n the other war-mongering angmohs as well.
    Sad to see world leaders seeking conflict in various forms from military to economic.
    The world needs LEADERS OF PEACE.

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  • xoxo:

    There exist too much arrogance and greed in this world.
    The Rich and Powerful act like they are gods; God of War and God of Wealth.
    Darkness engulfs this present world.
    Even with viruses attacking humans,people think nothing of creating more troubles for other humans?
    Who are good?
    Who are promoting goodness?
    All claim goodness when what they do are evil.
    May Light shine on this wretched world and set all humans free…

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  • Stewpig to the core:

    “The Jap has renounced and abandoned all expansionist policy, never to wage war on any country “.

    Really?

    Only stewpig to the core type will say so!

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  • dave:

    Stewpig to the core:
    “The Jap has renounced and abandoned all expansionist policy, never to wage war on any country “.

    Really?

    Only stewpig to the core type will say so!

    Totally agree. And the couple of stupid ones trying to hijack this site to spread the hate propaganda of their masters and refuse to mention a single word about the war crimes and crimes against humanity, against human rights committed by their masters. And those of the cruel and barbaric Japanese, thinking that now they wore suits and bow and bow, very polite, very peaceful and friendly.

    The Japanese are tearing away the Pacifist Constitution imposed on them by the Americans, with the consent of the Americans to become another aggressive imperial power again.

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  • dave:

    Maniac:
    ‘Who will blink first?’ Is nuclear war between Russia and the US possible?

    But if this war happens, it will be the last in the history of mankind, civilization will roll back to the Stone Age.

    Nathan would get his ass cooked, together with all his relatives. On the other hand, he could be a lonely man with no relatives or friends, and wants a “glorious” death.

    Mass suicidal maniac.

    Tech: IF Russia has the balls to launch a nuclear ICBM, China would shoot it down before it ever leaves Russia’s airspace. It would be absurd to even think that China is closing both eyes and not monitoring the situation or not having its warheads pointed at Russia, IMHO.

    Tech, what is wrong with you? The stewpig Nathan was talking about Russia and Nato. What is this China shooting down Russian ICBM?

    Tech: OK, I was saying that Russia going nuclear is not an option that China would allow, NATO or even Ukraine.

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  • Billy ma:

    This war will continue as long as the West want it, especially the USA & allies.

    It may sounds hilarious, but the president of Ukraine may not want the war to end too soon. He’s enjoying global adoration & it’s addictive.

    And last but for least, Putin surely has not reach his goals for this invasion, so he won’t be the one to stop it.

    Meanwhile a pack of opportunists are waiting at the sidelines to jump in on vast business opportunities & contracts to rebuilt Ukraine.

    This is the reality.

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  • Sudamakanrehatkandiri:

    U worry w/o any reasonable cause!

    The people republic of China is @, any rockets with nuclear warheads in space will be shot down at once by the almighty rocket army of the people republic of China in due course!

    Rehatkandiri lah!

    Maniac:
    ‘Who will blink first?’ Is nuclear war between Russia and the US possible?

    But if this war happens, it will be the last in the history of mankind, civilization will roll back to the Stone Age.

    Nathan would get his ass cooked, together with all his relatives. On the other hand, he could be a lonely man with no relatives or friends, and wants a “glorious” death.

    Mass suicidal maniac.

    Tech: IF Russia has the balls to launch a nuclear ICBM, China would shoot it down before it ever leaves Russia’s airspace. It would be absurd to even think that China is closing both eyes and not monitoring the situation or not having its warheads pointed at Russia, IMHO.

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  • nathenchen:

    I have unpublished post pre-dating Maniac’s post here, why a nuclear war is necessary to put a final stop to Putin’s insane and criminal war in Ukraine. And why and how a nuclear war with Putin won’t necessarily mean the end of the world for mankind.

    Aiyah, Dave. I am used to your kind. Japanese has remained a pacifist nation until recent. Threats from China and North Korea necessitates they depart from being a pacifist nation for the sake Japan’s sovereignty and security. Every nation has the right to armed themselves in defence of severe provocation and the threats of invasion. If I am a stewpig then you are worse than a fcuking swine.

    Why you dare not accuse the PAP of hunam right abuse How about your Godfather Lee Con You war crimes during the Japanese Occupation working for the Jap. Keep your own house in order first before talking about other nation lack of humanity.

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    Yes, China is dangerous.

    Give our Abang who question China a Tiger beer please.

    https://bit.ly/3htyvAR

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    nathenchen: Japanese has remained a pacifist nation until recent. Threats from China and North Korea necessitates they depart from being a pacifist nation for the sake Japan’s sovereignty and security. Every nation has the right to armed themselves in defence of severe provocation and the threats of invasion.

    Yes, a full sovereignty state MUST have their own security forces.

    And Yes, I fully support Japan to re-arm itself and for it to return to a normal sovereignty state without Amercunts on their soil.

    Tomorrow 1140am watch this analysis by Yale professor Kuo

    ’22.12.19【觀點│亮點交鋒】美國放日出籠 對抗第一島鏈
    https://bit.ly/3HTBqgG

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  • Colony army:

    When India was under the British, India had “its own” army. The Indians were sent to fight in many other countries. They died.

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  • Real democracy:

    nathenchen: Japanese has remained a pacifist nation until recent. Threats from China and North Korea necessitates they depart from being a pacifist nation for the sake Japan’s sovereignty and security. Every nation has the right to armed themselves in defence of severe provocation and the threats of invasion.

    Singaporeans R Free Riders: Yes, a full sovereignty state MUST have their own security forces.

    And Yes, I fully support Japan to re-arm itself and for it to return to a normal sovereignty state without Amercunts on their soil.

    Tomorrow 1140am watch this analysis by Yale professor Kuo

    ’22.12.19【觀點│亮點交鋒】美國放日出籠 對抗第一島鏈
    https://bit.ly/3HTBqgG

    Two stupid asses echoing each other’s ignorance.

    Japan invaded and ruled Korea brutally, colonising the Koreans and treated them like slaves.

    Japan invaded China and killed more than 20m Chinese in WW2.

    Did Korea or China invade Japan? Japan a pacifist country, being provoked by Korea and China? What did Japan do to Korea and China before it was defeated, nuked to go down on their knees?

    Stop being stupid. Read history to save you from sounding so childish and so ignorant.

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  • Real democracy:

    To the two ignorant twits.

    Japan overran South East Asia, invaded every SE Asian countries from Vietnam to Australia, from Myanmar to the Philippines, to the Pacific Islands, and bombed Pearl Harbour. In the process they massacred hundreds of thousands of people in SE Asia, including Americans in Pearl Harbour, and the Brits and Aussies in Malaya and Singapore.

    Now, why am I explaining history to twits that are incapable of understanding and remembering the recent past?

    Japan a pacifist country, under threat from China and Korea? If the Americans did not nuke and kill the two hundred thousand Japanese in Nagasaki and Hiroshima, you would be speaking Japanese and ruled by the barbaric Japanese and slapped on the street if they did not like your stupid faces.

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  • Western Sheep:

    Some commenters are intentionally “ignorant.”

    One believes that since WW1, US has not killed anyone in Asia. Another supported him.

    One believes US is a very benign hegemon. This blur kuku has disappeared.

    One mouse believes this region has no wars since WW2. Nathan is one-up. He believes the world is at peace since WW2.

    People who post here cannot really be so ignorant. So they are intentional.

    Real democracy:
    To the two ignorant twits.

    Japan overran South East Asia, invaded every SE Asian countries from Vietnam to Australia, from Myanmar to the Philippines, to the Pacific Islands, and bombed Pearl Harbour. In the process they massacred hundreds of thousands of people in SE Asia, including Americans in Pearl Harbour, and the Brits and Aussies in Malaya and Singapore.

    Now, why am I explaining history to twits that are incapable of understanding and remembering the recent past?

    Japan a pacifist country, under threat from China and Korea? If the Americans did not nuke and kill the two hundred thousand Japanese in Nagasaki and Hiroshima, you would be speaking Japanese and ruled by the barbaric Japanese and slapped on the street if they did not like your stupid faces.

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  • Soccerbetting2:

    Watch this Tik Tok -”https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS8Yu6aH8/”

    Don’t know how accurate is it ?Wow,Putin so powerful to make USA fall ? Singapore has a lot of investments in USA .If really happening,better wake up our government before all the money invested in USA become worthless .

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  • Soccerbetting2:

    Watch this Tik Tok -”https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS8YXQ3mW/”

    Dubai super rich countries has no oil as per Tik Tok video.So next time ,everybody may depend on Russia Putin for oil ,who knows ? How long will Dubai last ? Will it go bankrupt like some of those Europe countries ?

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  • Soccerbetting2:

    Watch this Tik Tok -”https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS8YqsTaN/”

    Zelensky wife spent $40,000 shopping in Paris while demanding countries to give more to Ukraine !How outrageous is this ! The country is at war yet the Ukraine President wife is spending money like water.And Singapore is donating our hard earn money which eventually never go to Ukraine needy but for the President wife to spent ! So now all of you know where donation money from women wing will eventually end up to ?-their own women pocket siphoning off till nobody knows !Help the needy is also another dirty word !

    Tech: You have been posting the official links to TikTok ver so often now, you are now the paid poster boy for TikTok?

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  • P Against People:

    We already know how money gets distributed in a country.
    $100 billion, roughly $23,000 per citizen, every citizen.
    But we adults get $600. Each of our $22,500 disappeared.
    somewhere. Babies and children get $0. All their $23,000 disappeared.

    Soccerbetting2:
    Watch this Tik Tok -”https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS8YqsTaN/”

    Zelensky wife spent $40,000 shopping in Paris while demanding countries to give more to Ukraine !How outrageous is this ! The country is at war yet the Ukraine President wife is spending money like water.And Singapore is donating our hard earn money which eventually never go to Ukraine needy but for the President wife to spent ! So now all of you know where donation money from women wing will eventually end up to ?-their own women pocket siphoning off till nobody knows !Help the needy is also another dirty word !

    Tech: You have been posting the official links to TikTok ver so often now, you are now the paid poster boy for TikTok?

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  • Soccerbetting2:

    Stated by Tech :Quote-”Tech: You have been posting the official links to TikTok ver so often now, you are now the paid poster boy for TikTok?”

    Response :Look like Tech is much more imaginative than me.I don’t get any single cent from Tik Tok at all.That is the fact.

    Tech: Just me being curious, I heard that people can make money from TikTok and I thought you are doing it. lol

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  • Soccerbetting2:

    Watch this Tik Tok -”https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS8Ywx7F3/”

    Ukraine sabotage Putin oilfield and probably bomb it.And Tik Tok video suggest that World War 3 may be coming soon.One thing for sure,Putin will retaliate with more bombings to Ukraine.If World War 3 maybe hoing to start soon,how prepare is Singapore going to live it out ! If war come to Singapore,don’t expect me to fight the war for Singapore !I already serve my 2.5 years of National Service to the Nation plus some reservist.And this really destroy off all my life with NS that wasted our lifes with no benefits gain!Instead all the benefits goes to the women wing giving them super high pay expecting all of us to work like slaves for lousy pay that cannot survive !This is what Lee Hsien Loong government really is ! Pui !

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  • Soccerbetting2:

    Stated by Tech :Quote-”Tech: Just me being curious, I heard that people can make money from TikTok and I thought you are doing it. lol”Unquote.

    Response :I repeat that I am not related to Tik Tok and don’t earn any single cent from Tik Tok at all hope you get that ! For those 主播that have account with Tik Tok and are broadcasting “live” show and some of them really make a lot of money from their “live” show.Some sell their overpriced technology items or super-expensive overpriced branded clothes online in Tik Tok and through their thousands or millions fans,they sell fast and make huge tons of money through it.And many 主播in Tik Tok receive gifts or flowers with different prices and this is their second source of income in Tik Tok .And when they do “PK”(meaning challenge other主播”online in Tik Tok,the winner and think loser also receive some more sources of income through gifts. Think you can use your credit card ,Paypal or whatever and buy “digital coins” online and use these “digital coins” to buy gifts to give to those pretty Tik Tok 主播 though I had never try it till today ! Tomorrow,I don’t know.I don’t have any account with Tik Tok at all that Tik Tok pay any single cent to me. So I don’t receive any money from Tik Tok and I am not any 主播 in Tik Tok.Really,some pretty famous 主播with their tjousands or millions followers will make huge tons of money per month.If you subscribe to them for their videos,they charge a fees of almost $8 (don’t know what currency co share with Tik Tok company).So popular 主播 inTik Tok are rich for every month that subscriber monthly fees of $8 multiply by million follower give abother source of income to them .So if Tech is handsome or pretty enough,can change line and join Tik Tok to earn your “millions” LOL.

    Tech: Ah I see, maybe I can start selling my DIY negative ions generator on TikTok too. lol

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  • privilege to serve:

    //I already serve my 2.5 years of National Service to the Nation plus some reservist.And this really destroy off all my life with NS that wasted our lifes with no benefits gain!Instead all the benefits goes to the women wing giving them super high pay expecting all of us to work like slaves for lousy pay that cannot survive !This is what Lee Hsien Loong government really is ! Pui !//

    hahahaha, ask all the white idiots (since it is a privilege to serve ??) and gang + FTs + white horses + regulars (some of these regulars are champions in pulling ranks ??) to do it first lor AND to set good examples of what the white idiots know how to preach so well ???

    and talking about women, sometimes hor the women in sinkie land have better guts then the men whose “”gonads”" have been squeezed during the 2.5year or 2 years of conditioning ???

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  • Zhenzidan:

    Soccerbetting2:
    To stop this war,only one way ,and that is Ukraine surrender and USA backed off its support.Russia certainly has zero possibility of backed off,right ? And remember don’t donate to support Ukraine else ukraine won’t surrender and war won’t stop.Only donate to Ukraine when war ended else Russia may take revenge for helping Ukraine.Russia already view Singapore in a poor light for Singapore stupid women wing previous support of Ukraine.

    Stop talking thru your a$$e! Ukraine knows by surrendering, they will make Russia bolder and will find the next target, Moldova being a possibility. Ukraine knew well that it was because they surrendered Crimea easily that the Russians think that the whole Ukraine will be easy target.

    When China lost the Opium War to Britain, they also surrendered and signed many humiliating treaties, ceding HK to Britain and pay 30 million taels of silver to compensate for war damages. Did they enjoy peace after that? No! A few years later, France joined in the 2nd Opium War to demand for more trading privileges in China, and burnt down the Summer Palace. Many wars followed, and China suffered one humiliation after another.

    Ukraine obviously know Chinese history well enough and they know they cannot be as useless as the China Manchu govt.

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  • Zhenzidan:

    Ah Teo ah! You are just like those typical Russian ass-lickers, hoping to see a Russian victory by pretending to be understanding towards Russia’s reasons (or excuses) for the invasion. Like all Russian ass-lickers, you purposely never mentioned Russia’s invasion of Ukrainian Crimea and annexed it, resulting in Ukraine thinking of joining NATO.

    Putin also hopes to end the war but without losing face. He wants Ukraine to concede all areas annexed by Russia to be Russian territories to save his face. But Zelensky showed him the middle finger.

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  • Famous French Fries US:

    US making Europeans suffer – de Gaulle’s grandson
    Washington is profiteering from the “economic war” against Moscow, Pierre de Gaulle has said.

    “I revolt and protest this intellectual dishonesty in the Ukraine crisis because the triggers of the war are the Americans and NATO,” Pierre de Gaulle told the Franco-Russian Dialogue Association last week.

    “The United States, unfortunately, continues the military escalation, making not only the Ukrainian population suffer, but the European population as well.” 

    The scale and the number of sanctions show that all of this was organized a long time in advance. It is an economic war, from which the Americans are the beneficiaries. The Americans sell their gas to Europeans for a price four to seven times higher than they do in their own country.

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  • Willing cannon fodder:

    Ukraine on ‘NATO mission’ – defense minister
    Aleksey Reznikov has argued that Kiev is shedding blood for the military bloc and expects weapons in return.

    Kiev is shedding blood to carry out the mission NATO set for itself and expects the “civilized West” to provide weapons and ammunition in return, Ukrainian Defense Minister Aleksey Reznikov has said in an interview for a domestic TV channel.

    “Today, Ukraine is addressing that threat. We’re carrying out NATO’s mission today, without shedding their blood. We shed our blood, so we expect them to provide weapons,” he said.

    Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    Up for you.
    Facts#1:
    We paid only 66 billion for Ukrainians to die for US interests in the war with Russia. US’ $66 billion investment in Ukraine is well worth it.
    https://bit.ly/3FhzdJl

    https://bit.ly/3zvtwoV

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