Iswaran’s MP Allowance
Our elected MP’s monthly allowance is S$16,000.
Today, Parliament will deliberate if S. Iswaran (SI) who has been suspended by the pap themselves from all, I repeat, from ALL his ministerial and MP duties and activities because he is assisting the CPIB in their investigation into some corruption cases should continues receiving his MP allowance.
Currently, SI is paid a reduced ministerial salary of S$8,500 and including his MP allowance will come up to S$24,500/ each month for doing nothing. ( Please read this paragraph again).
MP allowance and ministerial salary do not drop like rain from the sky. What they earn are the collective results of many, many, many thousands of Singaporeans’ hard work, long hours of work, overtime work, sacrifices, creativity, innovative work, lesser time spent with their loved ones and much, much more.
Hand to heart, I ask if any one of us is suspended from work due to some CPIB investigation, will we continue to receive from our employer what SI is receiving from the pap government? The answer is so obvious.
So, I ask loudly what is so special about him?
To add salt to insult, too many fellow citizens don’t even earn in one year what SI is currently getting from our money in one month for doing nothing!
I sincerely hope that our parliamentarians are men and women who are made of sterner stuff and clearer conscience and not easily swayed or yield to clever and cunning arguments put forth by anybody to continue paying SI his MP allowance for doing nothing anymore.
However, going forward, his MP allowances could be back paid to him if he is subsequently cleared by the CPIB. I ask loudly too if that is so difficult for the pap government or anyone to accept?
Worse comes to worst, l call on and even challenge the pap government to have the courage to lift its parliamentary whip to enable our parliamentarians to vote on this matter according to their conscience.
Right thinking and patriotic citizens should never allow and tolerate the pap government or any of its members for treating our collective hard-earned money like free spending Santa Claus using it to favour its own kaki.
Think.
Simon Lim
$600 for peasants when PER CAPITA GRANT was claimed by MP as $23.5K out of Solidarity-Resilience Covid Budget.
But no worries,idle MP suspect can get $16K and part ministerial pay.
If “proven innocent”(?),will get back pay too.
Hard to prove guilty but easy to show innocence.
As for others,innocent can become easilyMADE GUILTY?
GO ASK THE POLICE.
They seem to enjoy bashing vulnerable sgs.
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it fraking day light robbery and all those jobless and poor Singaporeans must curse all frakers.
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Isn’t it common sense that if no work is done, there is no payment? It is because the PAP have majority that they want to use our monies to pay their crony. Iswaran should be asked to leave by tendering his resignation. LHL for once did the right thing by removing Iswaran from his Ministrial duty once CPIB reported to him. I don’t see the need for the $8500/-. I also don’t see a need for back pay as no work has been done on behalf of the Public. It is the Public’s monies that are being used in the investigation.
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Simon: I sincerely hope that our parliamentarians are men and women who are made of sterner stuff and clearer conscience…..
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Dear Simon,
Our great PAP is 101% men and women made of sterner stuff and clearer conscience.
Our great PAP tell the truth to Singaporean to be cheaper, better and faster to counter unfair and unethical Chinese from undercutting price tramping on workers’ rights.
If you question Opposition what should we do to counter the Chinese undercutting price, Opposition will all go silence diam diam diam.
EU to impose high tariff on Chinese Sweat Shop cars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b20PqtwwQAo
Be warned.
Chinacunt navy are now aggressively chasing Americunts navy away from Yellow Sea which is international water.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zAh9nGaClU
ASEAN must choose the side of Americunt and condemned Chinacunt for their unprofessional action.
It is a big disappointment that In God We Tru$t Americunt navy choose to run away/ instead of shooting them.
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Unfortunately there are not many “right thinking and patriotic citizens”…………..left.
So everything can tolerate…………not their money.
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Polis desperately scrubbing him whiter than white. He will pass corruption test with flying colors. After all, he is no more corrupt tha nthe est ofthem – except he was careless and got caught.
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Would you ask your dogs to vote on how many bones they should get?
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Young Singaporeans are right thinking and patriotic.
But not the old Singaporeans.
I just came across a video while browsing UT.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ah7_kdiXnsE
This video really show all the jiao liao bee old people singing strange songs and are happy with it.
And we had many jiao liao bee old people here.
Fist of Fury is correct on these Opposition supporters and I quote him:
85% are the middle-class, workers and the lowlifes living in HDB deluding themselves they are ‘rich’.
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Its time for all of us to vote out the PAP now.
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PAP will always protect their own people so won’t give a damn as to what citizens think. All they are interested is in proclaiming that Iswaran is not guilty should he be found innocent.
The way they do things it comes as no surprise that more and more do not see them in a positive light nor trust them. Let’s see how long this investigation takes and whether the election will be called before then.
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I believe the result should be out when the next GE is announced, then the party can claim that they are the most fair and no-nonsense party in the world.
Anyone not think so?
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@TRE Tech
If you are right, he will be found not guilty like the Maharajahs of Ridout.
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Looks like the virtual safety car is still out on the F1 track waiting for S.Iswaran to rejoin the formation.
Does he even know the rules?
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No work no pay…
If not guilty..then need to compensate back…
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As expected, the Wayang Party is also against the suspension of Iswaran’s pay.
Understandably, both Mr Pritam Singh and Mr Faisal Manap are also currently under investigation, if the motion by PSP is allowed, then it has to apply to ALL MPs under investigation, guilty or not.
Party interest over the people, like the lightning party? lol
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To The Whites, any immediate withdrawal of salary payment is akin to a guilty plea on all alleged charges.
Tio Bo?
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This is very different from renting a B&W bungalow.
Not so easy to defuse.
At last, a worthy challenge for the in-house scholars.
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This is sickening from PM down please listen , a Parlimentarian
Is under investigation for alleged corruption, why must
he be paid from public purse ? He is suspended.
What is Iswarans’s stand ? Are you happy being paid when you
can’t perform as an MP? Your colleagues are doing your work .
Have some dignity, sir. My students do stints at fast food joints
for pocket $.
No one , no one owes u a living .
Best part is , disgraceful Parliamentarians
trying to defend this .
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Under a well tested system where “the rule ( by/of) law” can be applied under a perfectly controlled situation,that honorable corruption case by SG’s “whiter than white” CPIB a department within the”honorable”Office of our “honorable”PM may end up with “case closed”If the ultimate decision to charge or no to charge rested with the AG another”X”honorable personal lawyer of our “honorable PM.Writting is clearly on Pappy’s”wall” that this honorable victim shall only be reprimanded and asked to resign in dignity from the party for another high paying job within one of the government owned companies.As usual this case will be swept under that overflowing.What do you think??
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@TRE Tech
Party interest over the people…
That is correctly said.
WAYANG PARTY-GOER$ go the $ame way$ as PAPy$.
Such standard of GOVERNANCE is even less steingent than PRIVATE GLOBAL CORPIRATION pertaining to employees’ misconduct.
P$ jumped up to brush aside Ms Poa’s proposition.
Thats OPPO VS OPPO?!
VERY GLARING!
WHY P$ NEVER EVER JUMPS IN SUCH “LIGHTNING SPEED” WHEN LEONG WAS ATTACKED EACH TIME BY THE PAPy$ on issues relating to common sgs’ interests???
So,the WP’s LEEder has ultimately REVEAL his true colours.
PAPy$ must feel so shiok that the MAIN OPPO (THE ONLY OFFICIALLY ELECTED OPPO) is on their $ide.
All said,MONEY TALK$.
Everything else is bullcrap,eh?
WP’s LEEder dances to the tune of King “$”!
Money,money,money
Its a rich man’s world….
ABBA,you sang it so right!
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Nice photo of SI showing his kissing lip ready to do it on IR & PS.
https://gutzy.asia/2023/09/19/lim-tean-expresses-outrage-over-indranees-counter-motion-on-minister-iswarans-mp-pay-suspension/
“Lim Tean expressed his disappointment, criticizing what he sees as another example of the PAP having one set of rules for its members and favored individuals, while applying another set of rules to ordinary citizens.”
NOT GOOD – one nation, two set of rules!
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“This contrasts starkly with MPs like Mr Singh or Mr Faisal, who continue in their roles amidst investigations. The concern here revolves around an MP who voluntarily abstains from duties yet draws both a ministerial and MP salary.”
https://gutzy.asia/2023/09/20/public-faces-unfair-status-quo-as-psps-motion-to-suspend-iswarans-salary-is-rejected-despite-him-not-fulfilling-mp-duties/
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Animal farm says 4 legs good but 2 legs better…
Some people are more equal….sad but true ?
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@TRE Tech
Except that Faisal and PS are still working as MPs and Iswaran has been stopped by the PAP party itself. So Iswaran should be asked to resign in the interest of the Public as he is not doing any work to stop the allowance.
Tech: The PM has the power to stop both PS and Faisal pending the investigation, why didn’t he? lol
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the 70 pc ok with this. only 24500 a month what. if I were the opposition I won’t even bother raising the issue. and all opposition should boycott the next ge. no point fighting for such spineless brain washed brain dead voters
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the source of the problem is the 70 pc who support this. so you can have more scandals even surfacing in future, no difference to say sg is governed. we have lost the battle a long ago. chee s j etc are wasting their time fighting. just pack up la. sinkies deserve the government they vote
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I really see vv little, nay, no hope. and newly minted voters will out vote us. I day, we have passed the point of no return. if can uproot, uproot la from this country, no longer my country
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Corruption Payable Fund (CPF)
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” The former chief executive of Singapore-listed New Silkroutes Group Goh Jin Hian and three other men were slapped with a total of 132 charges related to false trading offences in the State Courts on Wednesday.
The other three men charged are the healthcare and energy firm’s former chief corporate officer Kelvyn Oo Cheong Kwan and former finance director William Teo Thiam Chuan, as well as Huang Yiwen, the sole director of GTC Group, a commercial market maker that New Silkroutes had engaged.
Market makers help ensure there is enough liquidity in the markets.
Goh, 54, the son of former prime minister Goh Chok Tong, was chief executive of New Silkroutes from 2015 to 2020. In 2020, he also stepped down as non-independent and non-executive chairman of the group.” – The Straits Times
https://www.straitstimes.com/business/ex-new-silkroutes-group-ceo-goh-jin-hian-three-others-charged-with-market-manipulation
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@TRE Tech
LHL has no powers to remove an MP’s allowance. He reduced the Minister’s allowance to $8500/- because there is a provision in the civil service but not an MP’s allowance. So PSP tried to pass a motion to suspend the allowance but was stopped by IR and PS. However as in TCJ and LP’s cases the party can ask or make them resign to safeguard taxpayers’ monies as no work is being done by Iswaran. Will the PAP do it immediately or are they going to bleed the Public for months and maybe years? The ball is in their court and the onus to sack Iswaran is on them.
Tech: Ah yes, I understand that. But Pritam is receiving more as LOO, that part is considered an MP’s pay?
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@SpecOps:War WITHIN the Papigs is really on.
Has just been intensified. About 2 scandals every month involving papigs and family members.
Matter of time before open warfare—if not already.
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News Headlines
“Son of Singapore’s former PM Goh Chok Tong among 4 men charged with false trading”
This is the Way.
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@TRE Tech
As the Leader of the Opposition he gets double the allowance, amounting to $385,000/- annually. 3paid Legislative Assistant and a secretary. He also gets an office and the use of a meeting room. This arrangement and allowance last until the end of the electorate term. LHL cannot remove him just like Iswaran at Parliament level.
Tech: MP of course cannot touch, but LOO setup by PM, can remove, dio bo?
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According to the UK system, the PM has no such power. According to the Singapore system, haha, haha, …
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Wah…
This Goh no longer in the party meh? I tot he ESM, no gib face ar?
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At this point in time, it is considered to be shameful even if it is only a conditional warning for S. Iswaran.
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””He decided to make an offer for 26 Ridout Road in 2018 since he has “long liked black-and-whites”.”’The Sham
”Son of Singapore’s Former Prime Minister Charged With False Trading Offenses
a misleading appearance of the price of its securities on 31 trading days between February and August of 2018, ”
Maharajahs of Ridout scandal started in 2018.
Woody Goh’s son ‘crimes’ occurred in 2018.
Within weeks, both revealed for the whole world to see.
When it rain it pours!
Read with TCJ dated scandal, Iswaran-gate, and Fujian Gangs crimes since 7 long years ago—-all point to very serious political infighting.
And…not even mentioning Hsien Yang and OxleyGate.
No runway Lawrence Wong better book the same flight out as Heng SK.
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There are 2 sets of law. One for the MIWs and their cronies and another for the peasants. If you are in the 1st group, you know that this is your birthright as an elite. If you don’t understand why, that is because you are a peasant.
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Most likely punished but not condemned as that would reflect badLEE on the PAPrty.
May even go scotfree,who knows?
From TH to Cabinet to Kena-nab?
Still get paid hand$omely.
For many others,got to run road only.
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In all fairness, Iswaran should be PRESUMED innocent until proven guilty. He has not even been charged in court, everything against him is just pure allegations and the ONLY avenue to convict him is the courts.
We all know that it is so easy to hurl baseless allegations against anyone, like how the lao aunties made AWARE that Tan Kin Lian is a supposed colorwolf.
The LEEder only suspended Iswaran’s ministerial duty, I don’t recall Iswaran being suspended of his MPship, which the LEEder has no power to do so, only Clubhouse can do that. Until then, he remains a duly elected MP. So cry father cry mother all you want, he should be paid his MP allowance.
In Sinkieland, a person can be “under investigation” for the most anak anak of reasons and these investigations take months or maybe even years to complete, like how Pritam case is “under investigation” for almost a year now, why not also cry father cry mother on his LOO allowance?
For example, some one slapped me and I lodged a report. A responsible IO ,may immediately decide its VCH and refer me to Small Claims, case closed. For a newbie IO, he may decide to detain the suspect, released him on bails for several months and then decide its VCH (non-seizable offence). So during these few months, would it be fair to suspend that someone for an anak anak case?
So IMHO, as long as a person is not officially charged in court, he should not be assumed to be guilty and pre-mature action taken against him.
Anyway, I would guess that Iswaran’s case would be completed just before the next GE, so about 1 year to go. At most waste 1 year of his MP allowance nia, if he is charged, so sup sup the water compared to what Temasick and GIC have lost over the years. lol
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”SINGAPORE banks are increasing scrutiny of some Chinese-born clients with other citizenships, following last month’s crackdown on money laundering ”
Oops, why they did not think of that earlier.”
””At least one international bank is closing some accounts of clients with citizenship from countries including Cambodia, Cyprus, Turkey and Vanuatu,”’
Thanks to Wang Yi, MAS and bankers now know how to think.
Any Chinese-born client with newly minted non-Chinese Passport buying high value assets in Money-Laundering-Pore most likely means one thing.
Wang Yi have to remind them.
Also
….’Car COE prices hit new record; premiums for larger cars cross S$140,000 for the first time’
Maybe Wang Yi need to go to LTA to take off his tie.
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@TRE Tech
Except that Iswaran himself is not attending Parliament or doing any work in his constituency. So isn’t this an absent without leave situation? So LHL as the leader of the PAP and the PM should ask for Iswaran’s resignation. The priority and onus should be on saving taxpayers’ monies and Iswaran can be said to have absconded from Parliament.
Tech: I believe that it was the party that asked Iswaran to take a break, no?
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opposition should ask if lky had then offered the cheang wan reduced salary whilst he was under investigation. I doubt it, lky would find it unthinkable, it would have ruined his reputation
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Iswaran was asked to lim kopi by CPIB for 10 hours.
Pinkie gave the ok to proceed investigation when shown the evidence.
Is there any soul on this money laundering Green Dot that believe Iswaran is innocent?
Then why pay him $300,000 per year for doing absolutely NOTHING at home.
Seems like an open and shut case.
CPIB should file report ASAP to save taxpayers monies.
And save papigs face; if it is possible.
No work, no pay.
Tech: The lightning do everything must be dramatic and rewards one, how can any how close case now. Wait for near GE, then case can reveal charge in court, then can claim lightning super-duper clean, dafts believe, another 70% for the lightning, sure win, dio bo?
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If Iswaran can still receive his salary during interdictment, it can only mean that this is a prelude to his not guilty verdict by CPIB.
Don’t believe me ?
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Any MP OR OFFICIAL UNDER INVESTIGATION SHOULD BE SUSPENDED FROM DUTY AND THEIR RENUMERATION WITHDRAWN TILL PROVEN NOT GUILTY.
As such,THE CPIB,SPF AND OTHER LAW ENFORCING AGENCY MUST BE UPRIGHT THEMSELVES.
WE SHOULD NOT ANYHOW SUSPECT ANYONE AND SUBJECT HIM/HER TO UNDUE INVESTIGATION IN THE FIRST INSTANCE.
BUT ONCE DUE DILIGENCE IS DONE,ANY MP OR OFFICIAL UNDER INVESTIGATION SHOULD BE SUSPENDED FROM OFFICIAL DUTIES WITH RENUMERATION WITHDRAWN.
IT SHOULD NOT BE DISCRETIONARY AS DISCRETION IS VERY SUBJECTIVE AND ARBITRARY.
SUKA-SUKA POLICY IS NO POLICY.
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P$’s LIGHTNING PARTY-LIKE response to Ms Poa regarding MP allowance for MP ISWARAN is sub-parish as OPPO MP.
In fact,all OPPO MPs must be more diligent if they are to be the “CHECK AND BALANCE” for the ruling party.
How can anyone has the moral authority to check others when one is sub-par?
Therefore,WP MPs and MP Iswaran ought to be suspended from duties without pay until INVESTIGATION and court demonstrate NO GUILT.
It is imperative that we must be quite certain before we start accusing.
The onus falls on LAW ENFORCERS.
WE EXPECT EXACTING STANDARDS FROM CPIB N SPF,CAD,ETC.
By best practices,PS N MANAP should also be suspended.
There cannot be half-measure approach to maintaining INTEGRITY,PERIOD.
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@rice
Disagree on the suspension of PS and FM as theirs is not a criminal act and it can be read as the PAP using RK to attack them. There is no loss to the Public. In Iswaran ‘s case CPIB has given their findings to the PM and based on their report Iswaran was relieved from his Ministrial duties and access to govt. departments has been denied. So basing on LHL’s judgement, Iswaran should be asked to step down as an MP at party level. By not asking for the resignation, it seems like they are helping him keep his MP’s remuneration which is unfair to the Public.
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Good Point.
But standard have drop a lot since.
CPIB and CAD should be very busy if we have a whistle-blower program.
Many more cases ,few got caught.
Fujian Gang ”detected ‘ 6 years too late.
There is a political nuclear war going on in papigs.
”Goh Jin Hian, the former chief executive officer of investment holding company New Silkroutes Group, was charged on Wednesday (Sep 20) with false trading offences. The 54-year-old is the son of Emeritus Senior Minister Goh Chok Tong.”
”Ministers Shanmugam, Vivian Balakrishnan sue Lee Hsien Yang for defamation over Ridout Road claims”
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Bunch of useless clowns masquerading as the peoples’ champions. Nowadays there are only goondus and unemployable graduates who enter politics. Sometimes we get fornicators to spice things up. Don’t expect anything from them other than wayang kulit.
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@Harder Truths
About a decade ago, TRE was then known as Wayang Party (WP) and the former owner had strongly opined that WP was PAP’s Team B.
Then it was confirmed later by Low, who stated on record that the WP was contended to be just the co-driver.
Now with WP’s monthly extra allowance on the line, WP has once again put the interest of the party above the people.
Clearly, the previous owner of TRE was NOT wrong in his assessment of WP, since its own Sec-Gen has stated everything on record.
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Corruptedness is not just outrightly linked to dollars and cents.
It can be INDIRECT but still a matter of self-interest$?
INTEGRITY OF MPs is utmost.
Commitment to CHECK N BALANCES call for INTEGRITY.
It must not be compromised for those who aspire to be the Check and N Balance.
Else,where is moral authority?
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