Tan Wah Piow’s Marxist Analysis

Tan Wah Piow

Recently Tan Wah Piow posted on Facebook on Marxism, commenting that “Marx is not dead”, and that he is “even more relevant”. I am not making this up. It can be found on Facebook.

Now, we have socioeconomic issues that deserves and needs to be debated, such as the adequacy of our safety nets, depreciating value of HDB flats, CPF policy and a “capitalist” system where most of the economy is monopolised by GLCs. POFMA and the actions by the PAP government against civil society are harmful to our society and need to be spoken up against.

It is one thing to debate these issues and bring them to attention, which we definitely need to do.

But it is another to promote Marxism and Marxist analytics. For promoting Marxism and Marxist analytics is no different from promoting Nazism or Nazi analytics – both ideologies and their analysis of societies have led to the mass murder of millions (in face, according to the Black Book of Communism by Harvard University Press, Communism and Marxism murdered 100 million people and counting, and that is considered by some scholars to be an underestimation), the ravaging of societies, a trail of decay and destruction and the impoverishment of societies from Eastern Europe behind the Iron Curtain to China under Mao to Cuba and North Korea.Critiquing our socioeconomic issues using Marxism is no different from overthrowing Hitler and replacing him with Himmler.

As such, I would like to call out Tan Wah Piow to renounce his comments on Marxism and Marxist analytics, if not he is no freedom fighter of Singapore.

 

Joe Ng

 

 

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20 Responses to “Tan Wah Piow’s Marxist Analysis”

  • patriot of TUMASIK:

    Joe, Wah-Piow posted his views on an Interview between 2 Brilliant Minds…is that WRONG??? does that make him a Marxist thus justifying the PAP’s condemnation of him…LKY the bast**d praise Deng a 100% commie who slaughtered his people in the Tien An Men Square and LKY agreed to his actions…

    Tell me Joe who is WORSE Wah-Piow or LKY???

    chicken running around to say the sky is FALLING??? can only happen in SingaporeINC

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  • LIONS:

    PAPi$m is not better.
    *whats wrong with collecting more money*..
    from peasants?
    *your CPF is NOT yours*?
    *you die,your business*?

    The world does not need *-ism*, the WORLD NEEDS LOVE N COMPASSION.

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  • For what it's worth: Governanc:

    Isn’t your argument Joe, somewhat analogous to someone being cynical about Lee Kuan Yew who claimed in 2007 he was promoting Confucian values in Singapore as a ballast against the encroachment of Western values and culture: which cultural values excuse me if you please?

    Why, what’s wrong with the Enlightenment values of natural aristocracy that were wrought and nurtured amidst the revolutions in Europe and America? Enlightenment thinkers frowned on autocracy and its associated legalism – which unfortunately the “benevolent dictator” has bequeathed to his generational successors.

    To date, the evolution of LKY’s party since the 90′s has deviated on a trajectory quite contrary to what Kung Tze taught: the ethical personality of the leaders have become questionable; they are avaricious in the utilisation of people’s lifetime savings and overbearing in innovating rules and regulations that subjugate the people’s rights to civic discussion as we silently labour on with miniscule wages into our twilight years to meet our freedom at long last …

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  • HarderTruths:

    Another paid stooge going about the normal business of making up fake news about TWP. The real story is quite different.

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  • Who is the biggest ...:

    Be neutral, do a historical analysis, who is the biggest murderer?
    communism
    Marxism
    capitalism
    add some religions, etc.

    I suspect capitalism, partly because of its long history.

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  • This is our answer:

    patriot of TUMASIK:
    Joe, Wah-Piow posted his views on an Interview between 2 Brilliant Minds…is that WRONG??? does that make him a Marxist thus justifying the PAP’s condemnation of him…LKY the bast**d praise Deng a 100% commie who slaughtered his people in the Tien An Men Square and LKY agreed to his actions…

    Tell me Joe who is WORSE Wah-Piow or LKY???

    chicken running around to say the sky is FALLING??? can only happen in SingaporeINC

    Tell me Joe who is WORSE Wah-Piow or LKY??? — We are not Joe but our answer, 100% true, is this, lky is worse, much worse. because lky lied and for political expediency abused power to anyhow lock up innocent men and women, for own political advantage.

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  • The sky is falling down and ,,:

    The sky is falling down and it is TWP’s fault.

    Eh, Joe, read up more about Marx. TWP is not the only person to say Marx is more relevant now. He’s only not the first person to say so.

    See these, a sampling from Google search? All published by news sources ranked better than 154th.

    Why Karl Marx is more relevant than ever | Financial Times
    https://www.ft.com/content/cf6532dc-4c67-11e8-97e4-13afc22d86d4
    May 3, 2018 – On August 24 1857 the Ohio Life Insurance and Trust Company failed. Within months, more than 1,400 banks had collapsed across America …

    Why the ideas of Karl Marx are more relevant than ever in the 21st …
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/…/karl-marx-relevant-21st-century
    Jan 25, 2013 – Bhaskar Sunkara: Marxism enjoys new currency in economic crisis. But as Marx said, the point is not just to interpret the world, but to change it.

    Why Marxism Explains the World – Foreign Affairs
    https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/world/2018-06-14/marxist-world
    Jun 14, 2018 – Karl Marx’s theory remains one of the most perceptive critiques of capitalism … What makes Marx acutely relevant today is his economic theory, …

    150 years of ‘Das Kapital’: How relevant is Marx today? | History | Al …
    https://www.aljazeera.com/…/150-years-das-kapital-relevant-marx-today-1708171154...
    Aug 22, 2017 – It is quite amazing that Karl Marx’s Capital has survived and been … After all, this big, unwieldy book (more than 2000 pages of small print in …

    Why Marx Is Relevant | Harvard Political Review
    https://harvardpolitics.com/books-arts/why-marx-is-relevant/
    May 21, 2011 – By Eagleton’s account, though, such practical concerns just get in the way of Marx’s more visceral truths. Though his assessment of the …

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  • Cowardice = powerless people:

    Joe bangs in the wrong hole.

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  • Bapak:

    This is why they need POHMA – they can spread FNs but you can’t.
    This is why they need POHA – they can harrass you but you can’t.

    It is like telling your enemies, they can only use rubber bullets whereas we can.

    Now you understand Singapore will never win a war fairfight way. Everything must be one-sided then can win.

    THE STUPIDITY OF SINKIES IS UNBELIVEABLE!

    patriot of TUMASIK:
    Joe, Wah-Piow posted his views on an Interview between 2 Brilliant Minds…is that WRONG??? does that make him a Marxist thus justifying the PAP’s condemnation of him…LKY the bast**d praise Deng a 100% commie who slaughtered his people in the Tien An Men Square and LKY agreed to his actions…

    Tell me Joe who is WORSE Wah-Piow or LKY???

    chicken running around to say the sky is FALLING??? can only happen in SingaporeINC

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  • Bapak:

    How stupid are Sinkies? Stupidity of Sinkies can be measured by 3 letters – L, K & Y.

    1) The day he put his unless son up he lied to Singapore wholesales. Yet Sinkies gave face to these 3 letters, accepted him & suffer thereafter BUT NEVER LEARN.

    2) When the 3-letter up lorry, stupid Sinkies yet again gave face to the 3 letters, suffer more thereafter under the useless son.

    Gladitude is not servitude my friend.

    This is our answer: Tell me Joe who is WORSE Wah-Piow or LKY??? — We are not Joe but our answer, 100% true, is this, lky is worse, much worse. because lky lied and for political expediency abused power to anyhow lock up innocent men and women, for own political advantage.

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  • nihon:

    not sure if twp said what exactly.

    but marx is irrelevant. his ideas will not solve today’s problems.

    however, must read the full text of what twp said to ascertain if he is indeed a marxist.

    marx ideas are very dangerous. look at n korea. it won’t work. and mao’s china was a big failure.

    and europe is stagnant as it went too far left.

    today’s wealth disparities and its tensions have to be solved by increased taxation on the leeches and building a bigger safety net. but france has done that, and it leads to stagnation. there are other factors.

    globalisation and printing money only benefited the leeches.

    minimum wage to protect the workers and lower housing and healthcare costs and more social spending to alleviate poverty are needed measures.

    lim chong yah suggested increase pay for lower 20% and freezing pay of the top 20%.

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  • Bapak:

    Part 2,

    The problem is the Useless Son knew how stupid are Sinkies, kept exploiting them with the 3 letters. But the idiotic-stupid-nincompoop Sinkies don’t know they are so stupid kept worshipping the 3 letters, to the extent knowing their future, their children future are ruined by the useless son still don’t care.

    SG is hopeless with these bunch of idiotic-stupid-nincompoop Sinkies around.

    Bapak:
    How stupid are Sinkies? Stupidity of Sinkies can be measured by 3 letters – L, K & Y.

    1) The day he put his unless son up he lied to Singapore wholesales. Yet Sinkies gave face to these 3 letters, accepted him & suffer thereafter BUT NEVER LEARN.

    2) When the 3-letter up lorry, stupid Sinkies yet again gave face to the 3 letters, suffer more thereafter under the useless son.

    Gladitude is not servitude my friend.

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  • omoon:

    Marxism: the ideology of Marxism has 2 parts. The economic ideology and political ideology.
    The economic ideology centers on the distribution of labor surplus (profit) which according to Marx was unfairly distributed. The working class was getting less than its fair share. The capitalists retained more than their fair share of the labor surplus (profit) from the labor of the working class.
    Efforts to redress the unfair distribution is called socialism, in short.

    The political ideology centers on the class struggle, which according to Marx and Lenin was the only way that the working class could get their fair share of the labor surplus. The capitalist class controlled the production and political power and hence the working class could never and would never be able to receive their fair share. This was the class struggle in Marxism.
    Further Marxism proposed armed struggle and the use of force and violence if necessary to achieve the goal of fair distribution of wealth. Its call for armed revolution to topple the established governments and the existing political and social orders was viewed as unconstitutional. The call for the use of force tantamounted to the terrorism of sorts and therefore Marxism (Communism) was outlawed in many countries. Singapore is one of those countries.
    There is nothing wrong or illegal about socialism in itself!

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  • patriot of TUMASIK:

    As I see it… both K Marx & Lenin are Jews…orthodox or otherwise…both witness the UNFair distribution of wealth and EXPLOITATION of Human Resources for the few Privilege…

    Look no Further…we have here in SingaporeINC a group supposedly serving the People who are having Privileges Beyond Belief… they earn in a DAY what an ordinary working man earns in a MONTH or MORE!!!…

    Marx is a Philosopher and Lenin is a Nationalist…similar to Aristotle and Dr Sun Yat Sen…So what is wrong with that and should his follower Commit Horror is that their Fault???

    and…who is LKY???… a bast**d who slaughtered his Unborn or the Parents get Penalised to ADHERE to the Devil Almighty Dollar as AGREED with Kissinger for INVESTMENT in 1974 when he enacted The LEEgal Abortion Act in ORDER to Depopulate the world of Lower Class Human Beings and Create an Elite society that is Singapore today???…

    Is it worth it???…when today you have to Fill the Lost Generation through LEEgal Abortion and be REPLACED by Fake Foreign Talents???

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  • LIONS:

    Seriously,NOTHING IS WORSE THAN A BUNCH OF GREEDY GAHMEN.
    With greed comes SELF-SERVING.
    This is the case in $in City.

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  • pap pliant parleeement:

    Isn’t pap 1 pap law 2 pap interpretations worse than any marxism communism?

    The elephant in the room is not some theorist in far away land but the big white lying clan of S$m parleement approved liars in our small island.

    So what Mr Tan WP said this or that? So what what Mr Tan WP thinks? Not a single dot on our anything.

    But the pap clown and wife and their S$m clan, aha, every lie they make hurts us and their docile 70% sheep supporters alot. pap clown and wife and their S$m clan, as a group, is the big white elephant in the room, not Mr Marx nor Mr Commune nor Mr Tan WP.

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  • pap cina IB:

    pap pliant parleeement:
    Isn’t pap 1 pap law 2 pap interpretations worse than any marxism communism?

    The elephant in the room is not some theorist in far away land but the big white lying clan of S$m parleement approved liars in our small island.

    So what Mr Tan WP said this or that? So what what Mr Tan WP thinks? Not a single dot on our anything.

    But the pap clown and wife and their S$m clan, aha, every lie they make hurts us and their docile 70% sheep supporters alot. pap clown and wife and their S$m clan, as a group, is the big white elephant in the room, not Mr Marx nor Mr Commune nor Mr Tan WP.

    pap PA used to employ Msia IBs who write in england.

    lately due to cost constraints pap employing cina IB writing in cina.

    WTF. so ffffing low standard May 2019 pap IBs writing in cina.

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  • Anonymous incognito:

    Marxism is a very stupid analysis of capitalism. He never bothered to ask real businessmen or study a real business. He spent most of the time in the British library. He mocked of his buddy Engrls.
    He didn’t even acknowledge the marginal revolution in economics.
    Nope he and his intellectual descendants are useless and dangerous

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  • Either here or there:

    What he meant maybe to imply some form of Marxism policies will help to ease the burden of the poor like equal distribution of income and wealth which is also reflected in today’s economic policies. Full capitalism can have a spiralling down effect on the poor where the economically weaker ones will always be exploited till the end to help enrich the rich who will become richer. He just wanted to help the poor.

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  • Kuanyiew - God of No Mercy:

    Do not confuse Marxism with the form that Xitler & Nazi-wannabes – and their Glate Cheman Mau before – are using in today’s Sinaland, something they have no justification for but inherit anyway since it’s there (not unlike LKY-ism handed down from PAPer God of No Mercy) and free for the taking which they then so ‘creatively’ call Lenin-Marx Socialism with Chinese Characteristics that, like so many things in today’s CCP-Land, is a bastardized corrupted form of the original.

    Just like the cheap Xiaomi in your hand right now. Yes, talking about you, you cheapo Stinkypoorean, YEW!

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