Some thoughts about new citizens

I would like to share some thoughts about new citizens (NCs).

Right thinking citizens must conclude that our country’s taking in of NCs are, on balance, doing more good than bad. Nonetheless, understandably, I also recognise that it can be an emotional struggle for many native Singaporeans.

Genuinely talented individuals are scarce and many countries are wooing them to add value and create even more opportunities for their host country wherever they go. So, why do many Singaporeans still view NCs with an unwelcoming altitude and harbour suspicions? I will offer 4 reasons.

Firstly, there are charlatans who successfully slipped through our ICA and MOM’s vetting, evaluation and eventually become NCs – people such as Yang Yin have managed to get their PR application approved. Logically, no citizens will likely to meekly accept that.

Secondly, NCs may also be perceived as intensifying and taking away Singaporeans’ jobs instead of adding value to our country and depressing local wages. In addition, they game our system to take advantage of us in order to take and take from us instead of give and take together with us.

For example, healthy male NCs are exempted from national service and male foreigners could wait until they are 35 and above before applying to become NCs in order to avoid serving national service.

Thirdly, if NCs remain unmarried, they will exacerbate our already dire total fertility rates and our greying population challenges and burdens. Lastly, NCs are viewed by many native Singaporeans as a safe electoral vote bank for the PAP government even though many have concluded that they now have an incompetent government.

If the PAP government is any far sighted and serious enough, I do hope that they can take real and useful steps to assuage and assure native Singaporeans the 4 points that l have listed above.

 

Simon Lim

 

 

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29 Responses to “Some thoughts about new citizens”

  • TruBlu:

    To qualify as NEW CITIZEN$,you need to be GAINFULLY N DECENTLY EMPLOYED one way or another.
    There are DOMESTIC HELPERS who worked here for 30 years but can never even get PR!
    They could easily qualify as FT if they have not come here to work as maids???

    So, once these PR-TURNED-NEW CITIZENS gradually have their DECENT JOBS robbed from them by the FT POLICY-MAKERS,and, given to newer batches of FTs, they would oso begin to feel like the TruBlu sgs whose DECENT JOBS they,themselves, ROBBED from us!

    Its a FOOLS’ GAME…
    Only IDIOTS N DAFT $cholars try to explain?

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  • PAP.GUARANTEE.WIN.GE2019/20:

    Simon Lim:
    I do hope that they can take real and useful steps to assuage and assure native Singaporeans the 4 points that l have listed above.

    Dear Singaporeans,
    PAP ICA has always been very careful in vetting the background of FT before granting them citizenship.

    PAP ICA knows that many of you here, especially those with Ang Mo Tua Kee mentality, adorned HK coward masked face black shirt people.

    PAP ICA will not allow these people into Singapore, much less granting them citizenship.

    One Ang Mo Tua Kee Oxygen claim that Hong Kong police are thugs bullying school children without verifying and understanding the whole event of Hong Kong.

    I reiterated here, HK police crack down on school teens within school compound is unnecessary. There should be better way to do it.

    The question is:
    1. Who influence the school teens to do this ?
    Answer : The teacher. Watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3XrzKdYA_o

    2. Why all the democracy champion HK MP never tell their own teens to go on the streets to protest ?
    Answer : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaUAI4kZGQw

    3. The coward black shirt rioters are nothing but canon fodder who thinks they are hero. Singaporeans, do not be canon fodder for opposition.

    This Ang Mo Tua Kee Oxygen even claimed that the coward black shirt rioters attacking passenger in Prince Edward station was just an isolated case.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwVX_T9NMJ0

    Yes, he said isolated case and he lied. If you had been following Hong Kong event since July, you will know that Ang Mo Tua Kee Oxygen is lying.

    It is not an isolated case.
    The coward black shirt rioters are harassing/attacking anyone who disagree with them.

    1) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CncSvFiiYXQ

    2) http://news.tvb.com/local/5d4805a9e6038361613c4480/%E8%8D%83%E7%81%A3%E6%9C%89%E7%A4%BA%E5%A8%81%E8%80%85%E5%8C%85%E5%9C%8D%E5%8F%8A%E7%A0%B4%E5%A3%9E%E8%AD%A6%E8%BB%8A-%E6%B2%99%E7%94%B0%E6%9C%89%E5%8F%97%E9%98%BB%E5%8F%B8%E6%A9%9F%E6%8C%81%E6%96%A7%E9%A0%AD%E6%8C%87%E5%9A%87

    And now, the people are fighting back the coward masked black shirt rioters.

    1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cRAkNAMKzs
    2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg1CXiwK8qs

    It is clear now that Carrie Lam and the police had much credibility than <a href="#comment-1861191"…

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  • patriot of TUMASIK:

    Our FOUNDING GENERATION leaders were mixed of Foreign & Local Born and they had ONE common Denominator…Love for Nation or Nationalists after studying or settling here from neighbouring countries…Malaya-Indonesia with the Chinese mainly from China seeking their Fortune and got it through Hard Work and remain as a Nationalists to their New Home and later to be CONdemned by a bast**d as Communists…

    Fast forward… todays New Citizens are people of CONvenience more than COMMITMENT…

    1st sign of trouble they will pack their Panties and run while the NS boys turn man had to do the dirty work…Boys of FT will be packed and sent back to Country of Origin with their PR intact and see through their youth with the Best of Both Worlds…

    Am I wrong??? enough of FTs to KNOW…and this is their Basic Survival INSTINCT…are they WRONG??? absolutely NOT… it is a Privilege given and Taken with No Thank YOU!!! you need me and I am there for you so long as things go well…

    I am The Brains and you are The FOOL…Idiotic Fool to be precise

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  • oxygen:

    @ Simon Lim

    LEE-jiapore Immigration is a laughing joke. We got Yang Ying and South Asian with MBAs from degree mills found working in our public service before caught.

    Imagined the dire tragedy of this reality actually happening – she sneaked through immigration lax quality control and with that advantage sneaked through employment vetting again in public service sector hiring.

    THESE THINGS WON’T HAPPEN IN AUSTRALIAN TIGHT IMMIGRATION CRITERIA-TESTED APPLICATION PROCEEDINGS.

    Simon Lim :Firstly, there are charlatans who successfully slipped through our ICA and MOM’s vetting, evaluation and eventually become NCs – people such as Yang Yin have managed to get their PR application approved. Logically, no citizens will likely to meekly accept that.

    EVEN VIOLENT CRIMINALS who beat up our taxi driver at Suntec city got their PR status approved whilst in court for trials of public violence which the applicant pleaded guilty.

    IMMIGRATION CONTROL HERE IS A LAUGHING JOKE.

    That is why we will continue to harvest strange species looking like rubber-tappers, durian pickers and janitorial experts masquerading as something more worth I hope not as engineers, accountants or would be astronauts.

    Some got even written communication skills problems like this example.

    PAP.GUARANTEE.WIN.GE2019/20: Ang Mo Tua Kee mentality, adorned HK coward masked face black shirt people

    “adorned” cowardice when he actually adored police thuggery criminal behavior??

    RUBBER-TAPPING AND DURIAN PICKING ARE EASIER PROFESSIONS.

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  • Rabble-rouser:

    @ PAP.GUARANTEE.WIN.GE2019/20:
    Your quantity of posting got no quality. HK situation not for you to comment unless you have a stake in that political mechanism. Don’t be a busybody or be like a meddlesome housewife whose got nothing better to do!

    You’re just parroting what was being reported in the MSM news narrative. How much of their reported content & their narrative were accurate is itself a question?

    Comparison to HK an ingenious ploy to sidetrack S’poreans away from their own concerns. S’poreans have greater concerns than to concern themselves with HK’s situation!

    Go back to where you orinally came from! Pig farm, Durian plantation, Rubber plantation – you go back there & stay there!

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  • Another brainwashed critic:

    “Right thinking citizens must conclude that our country’s taking in of NCs are, on balance, doing more good than bad.”

    A little mix is good. A full influx will drown the natives.
    Look at Australia. What happened to the natives?
    Look at America. What happened to the natives?

    Mis-informed Singaporeans still dream that they are the core.
    Know what happen to apple cores?

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  • never voted pap:

    sooner and no later these new become old and begin to realize they have made a bad mistake UNLESS they are of S$billions which enable them to move elsewhere as soon as they realize the pap scam.

    pap lets them in not because they are any good. pap lets them in to boost GDP growth numbers. pap goes by the pap madness called GDP growth by more mouths. and these new are suckers being abused for pap GDP growth bonus.

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  • UniQ:

    @ PAP.GUARANTEE.WIN.GE2019/20

    Fuah !!

    You are so missed informed between the territorial claims from shanghai to HK between the 江 Family and 習 cadres within politburo !!

    Either you have not been doing your research or you have not been going around long enough doing business globally…

    Thus, don’t anyhow throw rhetoric, you may fool some, but not all that are informed to plan businesses that will affect thousands of families.

    Knowing or unknowingly, you could ruin many people’s life with your half truth or even failed facts.

    If media can be trusted today, the entire global economy would have collapse all ago. MSM today are for strictly for watching or reading pleasure only.

    The eyes watching the macro movement would be the thermometer today.

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  • UniQ:

    with the USD exchange dropping below the 7RMB marked and heading towards 7.44, what do you think the Ah Tiong in Singapore would do today in Singapore ?

    * Hint *

    Chinese are living on an ocean of Debts. No forgetting the obligations to ‘return’ to motherland.

    I could only say that their high net worth are mainly Chinese, what would they do if their net worth has depreciated drastically and yet you economy could not support their loss when you have promise them a paradise ?

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  • Harder Truths:

    Any bodok can become an NC and have all the advantages and none of the burden. After a number of years they will return to their country to enjoy what they gained here.

    If I was in their shoes I would do the same. $G is a place where people come to sh*t and go. The locals have to clean up the mess.

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  • Kick Them Out:

    The terror in HK has awaken the world that rising China is not a suitable balance of power player in world politics. The dictatorship in China is incapable of conducting itself as a fair arbitration of power and keeping world peace.
    The communist system has allowed the the whole country to be captured by a few Kleptocrats at the top who has run the country like it’s own money making machine because of the lack of check and balance in the Chinese political system. There is no rule of law, but rule by law, by thuggish greedy people in power, to keep themselves in power to steal more wealth.

    The Chinese playbook, is an expanded version of Sillypore, because of its sheer size and population, it’s a real threat to world peace and order. The one-party system, the censorship, the propaganda, the use of global media to spread falsehoods, to shape opinion to it’s favour, the use of government monopoly, government related businesses and crony networks to enrich, to amass wealth are all bigger mirrors of this Sillyplace. The use of social engineering, education, learning the right things, sophisticated media fabrication, to brainwash, to control, to manipulate the citizens are all similar tactics. Mobilizing citizens to pit against each other, divide and conquer, like mainland Chinese vs HKers are again the similar.
    The one minor difference perhaps, is that it has to pander to great power politics for survival and to project a fake democracy to hookwink the west. That difference has at least given us the election, despite much gerrymandering and fake presidential election, a small chance for the citizens to bring about great changes to set themselves free. But will the brainwashed serfs wake up in time to vote right?

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  • oxygen:

    @ UniQ

    YOU ARE DEAD RIGHT ON THESE OBSERVATIONS of @ PAP.GUARANTEE.WIN.GE2019/20. Me too can’t quite figure out whether he is a consummated unrepentant liar, just plain ignorant of truth and arrogant of deceptions or plain hypocrite or desperate to display a mendacity for hypocrisy or synthesis of all of the above.

    UniQ: @ PAP.GUARANTEE.WIN.GE2019/20

    Fuah !!

    You are so missed informed between the territorial claims from shanghai to HK between the 江 Family and 習 cadres within politburo !!

    Either you have not been doing your research or you have not been going around long enough doing business globally…

    Thus, don’t anyhow throw rhetoric, you may fool some, but not all that are informed to plan businesses that will affect thousands of families.

    Knowing or unknowingly, you could ruin many people’s life with your half truth or even failed facts.

    If media can be trusted today, the entire global economy would have collapse all ago. MSM today are for strictly for watching or reading pleasure only.

    The eyes watching the macro movement would be the thermometer today.

    APPARENTLY, HE FEELS NO SHAME PUBLISHING HIS EXCITED UTTERANCE AS THIS CONFESSION, unprompted by me or anyone else.

    PAP.GUARANTEE.WIN.GE2019/20: I reiterated here, HK police crack down on school teens within school compound is unnecessary. There should be better way to do it.

    Thugs have justifications for all crimes and HE DENIED THIS THUGGISH BASHING OF UNIFORMED SCHOOL KIDS RIGHT ON THE COMPOUND OF SCHOOLS IS PRIMAE FACIE CRIME which all parents must have absolute faith of safe sanctuary for their kids to pursue education.

    it is also justifiable that “thugs-law” enforcing thugs bashed up commuters INSIDE PUBLIC TRANSPORT without the evidence of any wrongdoing accused of being presented first in the court of law.

    IT WAS PLAIN THE HK POLICE THUGS INVENTING AND DISHING out their own thugs law, and HE ENDORSED IT PROUDLY HERE.

    @ PAP.GUARANTEE.WIN.GE2019/20 is shameless of no condemnation of crime, seemingly admiring of thuggish abuse of criminal law.

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  • oxygen:

    @ UniQ

    EXACTLY RIGHT of your observations below. The current generation of Chinese have NOT yet tasted defeat of a looming bloodbath. Foreign investors have been largely shut out of the Chinese financial market – largely sheltered from global turbulence EXCEPT FOR ITS CURRENCY FLUCTUATION. When crisis hit, they print money AND DEBT out of thin air, just like the Fed.

    UniQ: Chinese are living on an ocean of Debts. No forgetting the obligations to ‘return’ to motherland.

    I could only say that their high net worth are mainly Chinese, what would they do if their net worth has depreciated drastically and yet you economy could not support their loss when you have promise them a paradise ?

    and you are SPOT ON on this accounting.

    UniQ: The eyes watching the macro movement would be the thermometer today.

    YES, MACRO MOVEMENT specifically reflect in USD/Yuan exchange rate. The USD is a reserve currency, the Yuan is NOT and can’t be. So the US print money and pay for the excess of consumption to foreigners with “kim chua” (hell money). To shore up its balance sheet and protect the collapse of the Chinese Yuan, PBOC – chinese central bank – bought gold BUT YOU CAN’T AFFORD TO BUY GOLD FOREVER.

    WHAT IS THE IMPLICATIONS?

    The Yuan will fall in value in exchange rate relative to USD. Here is the 20yr historical chart of US$/Yuan parity.

    https://www.macrotrends.net/2575/us-dollar-yuan-exchange-rate-historical-chart

    US$1 bought 8.1 Yuan in yr 2000, that means that by 2014, Yuan APPRECIATES to 6.04 to one USD representing 36% loss on exchange rate for Chinese invested abroad. Who knows how much of these Chinese capital invested abroad is funded out of debt??

    Since January 2014, the Yuan DEPRECIATES relative to the US$, Chinese capital invested abroad “profits” from its currency depreciation BUT RETURNS ARE THINNING OUT in a world of negative interest rate environment IMPEDING INVESTMENT OUTLOOK AND RETURN. Just remember this, the 30 yr US bond yield was sub-2% this week!!

    IN GLOBAL ECONOMIC TURBULENCE NEXT, WHO KNOWS WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO CHINESE YUAN, AND RESOLUTION OF WAY OVERLEVERAGED CHINESE ECONOMY WITHOUT THE ADVANCE OF A RESERVE CURRENCY THAT US$ ENJOYS?

    SCARY for all other countries dependent on Chinese hot money inflow.

    IF CHINESE MONEY FLEE LEE-JIAPORE, I SEE A SUDDEN DEATH COLLAPSE OF OUR PROPERTY MARKET.

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  • NotMyProblem:

    Harder Truths:
    Any bodok can become an NC and have all the advantages and none of the burden. After a number of years they will return to their country to enjoy what they gained here.

    If I was in their shoes I would do the same. $G is a place where people come to sh*t and go. The locals have to clean up the mess.

    BBC reported UN’s 2017 estimate that 46% of Singapore population are ex-foreigners!

    PAP doesn’t care if these ex-foreigners come to shit here or not, PAP only want their votes. These ex-foreigners don’t care if the locals have to clean up the mess, they just leave when the time is right.

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  • Ah Lee Baba Booba:

    America – Red Indians over taken by migrant ang mos.
    Australia – Native Aborigines over taken by ex British convicts. Then in 1993, Pauline Hanson famously said:”Australia is swamped by Asians.”

    Another brainwashed critic:
    “Right thinking citizens must conclude that our country’s taking in of NCs are, on balance, doing more good than bad.”

    A little mix is good. A full influx will drown the natives.
    Look at Australia. What happened to the natives?
    Look at America. What happened to the natives?

    Mis-informed Singaporeans still dream that they are the core.
    Know what happen to apple cores?

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  • Ya Keep On Adding FT:

    Our Water Agreement with Malaysia will end in 2060s. By then unless LHL and his offspring are agreeable to drinking their own urine, then continue to keep on adding more people into this country.

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  • Great Asia:

    Anyone who believe that PAP has the resources to check whether the 1,000,000 FTs in Singapore are carrying a real or fake education certificate must be an idiot.

    Ha ha ha!

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  • PAP.GUARANTEE.WIN.GE2019/20:

    UniQ:
    @ PAP.GUARANTEE.WIN.GE2019/20

    Fuah !!

    You are so missed informed between the territorial claims from shanghai to HK between the 江 Family and 習 cadres within politburo !!

    So you think only you know about the feud between the 江 Family and 習 cadres within politburo ?

    I will say I know reasonably better than you..

    http://blog.dwnews.com/post-1137242.html

    But my job here is to educate opposition supporters not to be canon fodders…

    PAP.GUARANTEE.WIN.GE2019/20

    See, Opposition supporters are unable to analyse much and could be make use of to be canon fodder….I am trying to help them see the light…

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  • Get Your Brain Washed:

    PAP.GUARANTEE.WIN.GE2019/20: So you think only you know about the feud between the 江 Family and 習 cadres within politburo ?

    I will say I know reasonably better than you..

    http://blog.dwnews.com/post-1137242.html

    But my job here is to educate opposition supporters not to be canon fodders…

    PAP.GUARANTEE.WIN.GE2019/20

    See, Opposition supporters are unable to analyse much and could be make use of to be canon fodder….I am trying to help them see the light…

    PAP.GUARANTEE.WIN.GE2019/20: So you think only you know about the feud between the 江 Family and 習 cadres within politburo ?

    I will say I know reasonably better than you..

    http://blog.dwnews.com/post-1137242.html

    But my job here is to educate opposition supporters not to be canon fodders…

    PAP.GUARANTEE.WIN.GE2019/20

    See, Opposition supporters are unable to analyse much and could be make use of to be canon fodder….I am trying to help them see the light…

    Don’t come here to talk cock, your job is to earn yourself 50cents per comment, selling misinformation cheaply for your greedy masters.
    Only paid dogs will give themselves silly “SureWin” names and call their postings “jobs”. You have the arrogance of any PaaP pigs.
    The Chinese global propaganda effort 大外宣 had already been exposed.
    The public can get related books in Taiwan.
    The west are also fully aware of the mainstream media infiltration in their countries and are taking actions.
    All your links on HK terror are related to the CCP cronies websites working as CCP propaganda machinery, and why are you defending the evil CCP regime like defending the PAP? obviously you have been sharing and reading the Right stuffs.
    It is now blindly obvious that CCP and PaaP are brothers, learning terror and evil from each other.

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  • UniQ:

    @ PAP.GUARANTEE.WIN.GE2019/20

    Appreciate for proving my point. The rest of your post are just peddling. I see no objective peddling desperately, it just reflect the contrary. What educating are you referring ?

    Work harder, do your research or spent more time climbing the corp ladder, you’ll gain more than doing this. My advise.

    PAP.GUARANTEE.WIN.GE2019/20: So you think only you know about the feud between the 江 Family and 習 cadres within politburo ?

    I will say I know reasonably better than you..

    http://blog.dwnews.com/post-1137242.html

    But my job here is to educate opposition supporters not to be canon fodders…

    PAP.GUARANTEE.WIN.GE2019/20

    See, Opposition supporters are unable to analyse much and could be make use of to be canon fodder….I am trying to help them see the light…

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  • UniQ:

    @ Oxygen

    On the contrary, I would see that the Chinese will ‘wash’ RMB out and reprint all the monies to reset the fail monetary policies. For decades they have loss control of the RMBs ‘Black’ or legal. Plus those monies that the peasants kept underneath their bed.

    Inorder to draw out all the available monies, the most likely move will be for the Chinese to reprint new notes. That will temporary slow the bleed. As for the peasants, and property market, My take is that they would want it fall if they reprint the notes. This will enable a selected few to gobble up cheap assets. Bottomline, its still greed and $$. Never the men on the ground. See the similarity, on Sinkiland these recent years ?

    IF CHINESE MONEY FLEE LEE-JIAPORE, I SEE A SUDDEN DEATH COLLAPSE OF OUR PROPERTY MARKET.

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  • oxygen:

    @ UniQ

    MATE, NOT SURE HOW THAT WORKS for you of the MECHANICS of Chinese “washing” RMB out and reprint all the monies to reset the fail monetary policies -PARTICULARLY IN THE CURRENT CONTEXT.

    You haven’t explain how this washing is achieve or achievable of outcome.

    UniQ: @ Oxygen

    On the contrary, I would see that the Chinese will ‘wash’ RMB out and reprint all the monies to reset the fail monetary policies. For decades they have loss control of the RMBs ‘Black’ or legal. Plus those monies that the peasants kept underneath their bed.

    POST GFC, the Fed and other Central Banks print money by buying their own debt – i.e. the Fed etc buy the assets (read/and actuality the liabilities debts of the Govt) flooding the banking system with excess liquidity.

    THERE IS A LIMIT TO SUSTAINABILITY OF THIS MONEY PRINTING. The Fed got to normalise its vastly expanded balance sheet and that raise interest rate last qtr of 2018. KAPUT, the bond market reacts, equities sank – forcing the Fed to cut interest rate in July 2019- THE FIRST SINCE GFC!!

    LIKEWISE, I am sure the Chinese hands are tied too. YOU CAN’T BURY DEBT WITH EVER EXPANDING DEBT. Why?

    CREDITORS GOT TO BE PAID WITH HIGHER AND HIGHER INTEREST RATE. Or like you said.

    UniQ: Plus those monies that the peasants kept underneath their bed

    Nobody will lend you (debtor) when you can’t and won’t pay interest and worst still return of capital!!

    Why did US 30 yr bond yield fell below 2%? The answer is very very simple. There is no entrepreneurial opportunities and investment available to yield better than 2% over 30 yrs!!

    So cash rich creditors won’t take risks with “BAD” business, they buy negative yield bonds.

    THAT SCREWED THE BANKS, NO PROFITABLE LENDING OPPORTUNITIES BUT DEPOSITORS WANT BETTER RETURN.

    NO LENDERS AVAILABLE.

    PRINTING MONEY IS DEAD END OF NO SOLUTION – YOU CAN’T BURY CREDITORS AND DEBTORS AT THE SAME TIME.

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  • oxygen:

    @ UniQ

    YOU FORGOT THAT in bad times, bubble deflation smack down asset values with very very very few and moment of escape for debtors.

    BORROWERS DON’T GET A DISCOUNT ON AMOUNT OF DEBT THEY OWE except in liquidation and bankruptcy insolvency.

    The one running fastest to the fire escape door might save his life BUT NOT FINANCIAL SOLVENCY.

    That is why I said this.

    oxygen: IF CHINESE MONEY FLEE LEE-JIAPORE, I SEE A SUDDEN DEATH COLLAPSE OF OUR PROPERTY MARKET.

    This is REALITY, MATE!!

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  • UniQ:

    I realised that my posting is abit loose, basically to explain what I think, the Chinese companies have to pay hundreds of millions every month in interest from the loan they have gotten. They CANNOT DEFAULT !! the only way is to snatch what available hard cash in the market and make them theirs.

    That’s communism for you.

    UniQ:
    @ Oxygen
    On the contrary, I would see that the Chinese will ‘wash’ RMB out and reprint all the monies to reset the fail monetary policies. For decades they have loss control of the RMBs ‘Black’ or legal. Plus those monies that the peasants kept underneath their bed.

    Inorder to draw out all the available monies, the most likely move will be for the Chinese to reprint new notes. That will temporary slow the bleed. As for the peasants, and property market, My take is that they would want it fall if they reprint the notes. This will enable a selected few to gobble up cheap assets. Bottomline, its still greed and $$. Never the men on the ground. See the similarity, on Sinkiland these recent years ?

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  • PAP.GUARANTEE.WIN.GE2019/20:

    Get Your Brain Washed:
    The Chinese global propaganda effort 大外宣 had already been exposed.
    The public can get related books in Taiwan.

    Taiwan ? hahahaha ….

    Taiwan ruling party Democratic Partyhad been caught lying many times…you are the one that need your brain checked…if you believe in democratic.

    Democratic is the most corrupted ruling party due to not paying them market rate.

    1) 20190723中天新聞 低階官員扛罪? 知情人士:走私是國安局華航陋習
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W_ThAt3hag

    2) Official probed for smuggling NT$6 million-worth of cigarettes
    http://focustaiwan.tw/news/asoc/201907220016.aspx

    Democratic Progressive Party now called cigarettes smuggling as “over buy” (超买)not cigarette smuggling.

    See, even your beloved Taiwan ruling party Democratic Progressive Party President 蔡英文 also follow my PAP master.

    PAP.GUARANTEE.WIN.GE2019/20

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  • PAP.GUARANTEE.WIN.GE2019/20:

    oxygen:
    @ PAP.GUARANTEE.WIN.GE2019/20 is shameless of no condemnation of crime, seemingly admiring of thuggish abuse of criminal law.

    Dear Readers, it is clear that Oxygen aka Ang Mo Tua Kee is the one who approve of violence.

    Therefore, his original statement above is actually describing himself and I shall use his statement on himself…
    Oxygen is shameless of no condemnation of crime, seemingly admiring of thuggish Black Shirt rioter abuse of criminal law.

    1) 香港黑衣暴徒破坏地铁收费并攻击不合作市民 (Black Shirt use violence (attack) on people who do not agree with them)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w4EIRUtJ1k

    2) 【示威者惡人先告狀!】還原831騷亂太子站事件真相、暴徒破壞車站後車廂製造衝突、疑換衫後扮乘客、速龍小隊趕到制服
    (Black Shirt use violence (attack) on people who do not agree with them)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMDlW_OMfdY

    3) 【專訪正氣小店】無懼惡意負評勇於發聲 深水埗神戶食堂老闆郭德英:示威愈來愈激進、年輕人令人心痛、自由是不能騎劫別人生活
    (Black Shirt rioters verbal harassed small business who disagreed with them)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x024HgjuJ0Q

    4) 黑衣人打爆港鐵站幕門後速逃片段流出 (Coward Black Shirt ran away after use of violence to break glass in MTR)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YWniPYQbuI

    5) 香港機場集會:女生自稱是示威常客 哭求堵路人士放行- BBC News 中文
    (“yesterday you were a protester, today a victim of demonstration.”)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV5zhAhmnFo

    Remember the girl whose right eye was blind from gunshot ?

    She claim that the police shot her but she refused to show her medical report to prove that the police shot her.

    She even get lawyer to stop police from checking her medical report.

    Why she dare not show the medical report if she is so confident that the police shot her ?

    Hong Kong people are really stupid to be con by this girl story.

    Singaporeans, please wake up and do not be be CANNON FODDER for opposition party.

    PAP.GUARANTEE.WIN.GE2019/20

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  • oxygen:

    @ PAP.GUARANTEE.WIN.GE2019/20:

    OI OI OI, RUBBER TAPPER aka durian picker from Bohleh-land, you have earned S$2 from farting fiction in this thread.

    The whole world knows that Piggy Lam’s dirty triad violent cops beat up protestors AND JOURNALISTS INDISCRIMINATELY on the streets of HK. That is why even lawyers, accountants and airline pilots risks sacking on the job and joined the protests.

    @ Get your brain washed is COMPLETELY RIGHT ABOUT YOU.

    Get Your Brain Washed: Don’t come here to talk cock, your job is to earn yourself 50cents per comment, selling misinformation cheaply for your greedy masters.
    Only paid dogs will give themselves silly “SureWin” names and call their postings “jobs”. You have the arrogance of any PaaP pigs.
    The Chinese global propaganda effort 大外宣 had already been exposed.
    The public can get related books in Taiwan.
    The west are also fully aware of the mainstream media infiltration in their countries and are taking actions.
    All your links on HK terror are related to the CCP cronies websites working as CCP propaganda machinery, and why are you defending the evil CCP regime like defending the PAP? obviously you have been sharing and reading the Right stuffs.
    It is now blindly obvious that CCP and PaaP are brothers, learning terror and evil from each other.

    You are such a scum in society. It is far more dignifying of self-respect to return to your rubber-tapping or durian Bohlehland to earn your living!!

    SHAME SHAME SHAME, YOU SHAMELESS POODLE.

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  • UniQ:

    @ Oxygen,

    Bro, I cannot deny that your views and points are valid. It is also a fact that I have not much knowledge nor experience in the financial industry. My experience are mainly from the decades of running a global company as a leader in Asia and having to deal with different sorts of industry and some government officials from the land.

    My views are just my view, based on how I know the Chinese would do. One cannot play by the rules with the Chinese, some how they only understand money, and for that they don’t respect the rule of the book.

    Example :
    Alibaba, Alibaba money making machine – Ant Investment, Tencent, etc

    When Alibaba happens, many companies that has work in progress for JV or other forms in China, pulled out immediately. Forget about MSM saying US has demanded the companies to pull out from China. Its a democracy, no US president can do that. There are matters that Companies would not share with the MSM. Thus, based on the mechanics how the Chinese works, the likelihood is to reprint all the monies and make everyone ‘old notes’ invalid.

    Basically, that is how stupidity and naïve thoughts brought down countless of our investments in China.

    oxygen:
    MATE, NOT SURE HOW THAT WORKS for you of the MECHANICS of Chinese “washing” RMB out and reprint all the monies to reset the fail monetary policies -PARTICULARLY IN THE CURRENT CONTEXT.

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  • oxygen:

    @ UniQ

    MATE, I WILL ALWAYS LEARN AS MUCH FROM YOU and others in TRE as you are learning from me and others too – NEVER MIND OUR VARIED EXPERIENCE AND DIFFERENT BACKGROUND EXPERIENCES.

    UniQ: @ Oxygen,

    Bro, I cannot deny that your views and points are valid. It is also a fact that I have not much knowledge nor experience in the financial industry

    And you are right, of course, on this – and after a few years roaming in China, I too, came to the same conclusion as you.

    UniQ: My views are just my view, based on how I know the Chinese would do. One cannot play by the rules with the Chinese, some how they only understand money, and for that they don’t respect the rule of the book…..Basically, that is how stupidity and naïve thoughts brought down countless of our investments in China.

    Foreign expats I met tells me this – CHINA IS NOT WHAT IT SEEMS. I saw so many cases of how Chinese, even public institutions, defraud them in legal contract.

    So it is NOT SURPRISE that this get headline read on Marketwatch.com read.

    Nasdaq thought it was diligent before a wave of Chinese reverse merger frauds

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/after-china-fraud-boom-nasdaq-steps-up-scrutiny-of-shady-listings-2016-06-20

    Red chip listings in LEE-jiapore and HK also have colourful reputations.

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