Political systems

Quite often, I see comments in my Facebook page that reflected a narrow mind – anything to do with communism must be bad; democracy and free markets are good.

I wonder why are these people so dogmatic? Can you do some critical thinking before giving their views?

I have read remarks by many well educated Americans who expressed dismay at their “democratic” political system. They said that their democracy is “bought” by the wealthy people who are able to get their sponsored politicians elected, who then passed laws to safeguard the interest of the rich.

They see a democracy that has produced a grotesque income gap, and where a large majority of people have to work hard and struggle to make a living and still not see any economic progress for them for a few decades.

I have also read the views of well educated people from the western world who had worked in China and in international settings. They hold a positive view about the communist system in China.

They said that the communist system produced a stable country, remarkable economic progress, improvement in the standard of living  and brought 300 million people out of poverty during a period when many people in the western world stagnated in their standard of living.

They are not saying that communism is a better system. They would probably prefer China to be more “democratic” but they are not sure if democracy can work for China at this time. There is no much evidence that democracy worked in other large developing countries.

Some fair minded people actually pointed out that the communist system in China is quite responsive to public opinion. If a large number of people are unhappy over a specific issue, the people in charge have to respond to their anger.

On the whole, the policies and practices of the communist party in China appear to be well accepted by the people.

The only real advantage of democracy is the ability for the voters to change the government that they do not support. This is more fiction than real. In many countries, the system of voting is corrupt and favor the incumbent. It takes a lot of effort to throw out a bad government in many corrupt countries.

In spite of this reality, there are still many people, mostly young people, in places like Singapore, Hong Kong and other countries, who still think that “democracy” is good and that communism is bad. They refuse to do any critical thinking and blindly believe in dogma.

 

Tan Kin Lian

 

 

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36 Responses to “Political systems”

  • Left to australia:

    Tan Kin Lian:

    *They see a democracy that has produced a grotesque income gap, and where a large majority of people have to work hard and struggle to make a living and still not see any economic progress for them for a few decades.

    * Views of well educated people from the western world who had worked in China and in international settings. They hold a positive view about the communist system in China.

    *On the whole, the policies and practices of the communist party in China appear to be well accepted by the people.

    Your points are flawed . Democracy created income gap? what are u smoking? . Singapore has the highest income gap in the world and it is not a democracy.

    China systems works? they rip off patents and copy the rest of the world.In reality the copied western system works, not the China system. Since when China invented anything original? A 5000 year old culture where people openly defecate in public?

    the policies and practices of the communist party in China appear to be well accepted by the people? u got to be kidding me… Did hkers accept it?

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  • Harder Truths:

    If you think communism is good then why don’t you go live in a communist country? Oh -I’m sorry – they have all COLLAPSED (except for $G).

    Even China is liberalising to survive. If you are saying communism is good – then show me one example of a real communist state that has succeeded. Venezuela? Cuba? USSR? Vietnam?

    Bullshit as usual.

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  • PAP.GUARANTEE.WIN.GE2019/20:

    Dear TKL, you said this:
    “In spite of this reality, there are still many people, mostly young people, in places like Singapore, Hong Kong and other countries, who still think that “democracy” is good and that communism is bad. They refuse to do any critical thinking and blindly believe in dogma.”

    My reply:
    Why Young people had such mindset that “democracy” is good and that communism is bad”

    It is because many Ang Mo Tua Kee(AMTK) and gang like Oxygen and Hong Kong students had been colonize until they don’t do not know how to think.

    Yes, the Ang Mo Tua Kee(AMTK) had been colonize until they think they too are Ang Mo Tua Kee and everyone must agreed with them if not, beat them up as show in HK demo.

    The cruel fact is the real Ang Mo Tua Kee do not recognize these as yellow as AMTK.

    As such, the real AMTK do not issue British passport to the yellow AMTK who see themselves as AMTK … hahahaha pathetic Hong Kong people and the like minded people like Oxygen.

    PAP.GUARANTEE.WIN.GE2019/20

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  • PAP.GUARANTEE.WIN.GE2019/20:

    To all Singaporeans,
    Please do not be canon fodder for the opposition.

    In Hong Kong, all the pro-democracy MP and their own children were not at the frontline.

    The pro-democracy MP merely instigate and make use of their supporters to charge while the MP and their children are far far away in the comfort of their homes.

    All voters must ask your opposition MP these 3 questions:

    Q1. Why you and your family members are not at the frontline leading the charge? Ask your opposition MP if they are sending their children away to a safe place such as UK.

    Point them to Hong Kong shameless pro-democracy MPs who hide at home while making use of their supporters to charge.

    Q2. Please show us if you possess other countries passport beside Singapore passport.

    Point them to the Hong Kong shameless 3rd class singer Denis Ho.
    She has Canadian passport and she is instigating the protestors to riot knowing she is safe as anytime she can run road to Canada.

    News from 港人講地:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV_pWmwt7pI

    Q3. What can you opposition do for me ?

    So, Singaporeans, Do not be canon fodder for opposition politicians.

    What can opposition do for you except talk cock sing song to make you song only but no real action ?

    Vote PAP. Vote for 9% GST. Vote for more FT so SG own son drive grab taxi.

    Vote PAP and huat, huat, huat ah.

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  • Reflections of the Ego:

    What system in the world is a “pure type” anymore, democracy included? But could one say that communism is the end product of a “realpolitik mindset” worked out to its logical conclusions? Where is Justice and Compassion in all these diabolical meanderings for self-entitlement and worldly power?

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  • Sinkie:

    The so-called democracy practiced here is internationally widely viewed as quasi-democracy or illiberal democracy — ie fake !

    Maybe communism is better.

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  • TUCK WAN:

    For once looks like Mr. Tan is making sense.

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  • NotMyProblem:

    Communist is good. Don’t believe me, you go to any branded goods outlet in Europe, you never fail to see PRC buying up all the luxury items. Even the black African salepersons have to speak Chinese now.

    In SG only a few can do that. You want to do that, join the PAP. You can also learn how to cook France cuisine. So no need to be communist, just join PAP.

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  • Bad Boy:

    https://xw.qq.com/cmsid/20190919A0RROA00?f=newdc
    太“坑”了!“万恶”的公摊面积真的是李嘉诚发明的吗?

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  • opposition dude:

    Democracy and communism are only as good as the people running it. While there is no perfect system there is no perfect government either.

    Look at Russia, are they in a bad shape? And then look at North Korea, years of famine and their nuclear weapons.

    Singapore is democratic but kiasees spoil everything in every election.

    So neither system is perfect because the people in charge do what they think is best.

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  • Bad Boy:

    只有中国人能在任何地方睡午觉

    https://xw.qq.com/cmsid/TWF2019081600888500

    Not only China, India Bangladesh , sri Lanka foreign workers….etc.
    Same thing in the afternoon, u see them sleeping in the hdb void deck. Mobile any how put on the floor.

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  • Population control first:

    India, philippines and some s.american nations should adopt the PRC system.
    ..esp the 1Child policy…
    The immense poverty in those countries are the worst in the world..
    How come their leaders arent bothering to educate their citizens..too many corrupted govs.
    Our world is dying due to humans’ demands on Mother Earth’s resources.
    Humans are the cause of “climate change”.
    Yes, the human race caused it!
    If every country control their population increases..our planet will have a chance.

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  • vincent tan:

    are you ok?, idiot tan
    want sg to embrace communism?.. sure or not communism?!
    good third try in 2 months.
    let me shout and repeat ! no no no communism for us forever.
    get it , stubborn head .
    might as well turn sg into LeeDynasty imperialist
    happy?!

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  • patriot of TUMASIK:

    Tan ahhhh!!! I think you are NOW beyond HOPE leh!!!

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  • Simpleton:

    TKL seems not to get it at all, he still thinks that the talk about communist china is just a clash of ideology. It is not.

    The reality is that the system is now a kleptocracy, where the top leaders enriched themselves with cronies, at the expense of the country and her citizens.

    The propaganda machinery serves to hoodwink the masses so that they could continue to stay in power and plunder.

    The Chinese communist party is a kleptocractic regime, exploiting the capitalistic system and greed to enrich themselves.

    TKL seems to be in his own world and not knowing what the current global issues are about and it’s recent development.

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  • RC level material:

    Your analysis is far worse than expected, not only lacking depth but totally inaccurate.
    You do not even bother to find out what the HK protest is about and started to spread rubbish.

    There are already netizens comments that are very educating, please read them.

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  • BK:

    Why are there more complains in democracies? Isnt this the nature of democracy?

    Can u criticize President Xi and get away with it in China? Everyone has a pop at Trump, even if he dosen’t liked it, he cant do nothing.

    Quote: “They said that the communist system produced a stable country, remarkable economic progress, improvement in the standard of living and brought 300 million people out of poverty during a period when many people in the western world stagnated in their standard of living.”

    LOL. China produced a standard of living without the Western world? If the Western nations had all been Communists you think there will be a WTO for China to prosper? Did the Soviet bloc presented economic opportunities for China, since they are Communist brothers?

    Well, the democracies are no longer liked democracies anymore, they are looking more liked Communists. See how u liked it with increasing trade wars and nativism.

    U think Communism is good, u think the nature of State enterprises are good, well, u gonna get it soon enough. If u look at it carefully, the democracies are now mirroring huge parts of Communism.

    In fact, the rise of China means China metamorphosis will be the other way.

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  • oxygen:

    GOONDU NEVER READ THIS RIGHT FROM THE HORSE MOUTH, Chinadaily.com – Mao hated peasants.

    Famous quote from late Chairman Mao Zedong: The masses’ eyes are discerning. We would like to share it with all those taking public hearings as cosmetic.

    http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/opinion/2009-12/25/content_9228239.htm

    He probably had more concubines than any other Chinese emperor.

    http://factsanddetails.com/china/cat2/sub6/item71.html

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  • Chinese Credit Crunch:

    Bad Boy:
    https://xw.qq.com/cmsid/20190919A0RROA00?f=newdc
    太“坑”了!“万恶”的公摊面积真的是李嘉诚发明的吗?

    This article is carried by Tencent, and its echoing the CCP lines. Tencent is just one of the many conduits of CCP propaganda. The founder was forced to step down, just like many other Chinese entrepreneurs recently.

    Jack ma, of Alibaba, had to give up his wealth and handover his company to save his life. Alibaba has the biggest big Data in the world and this data is under CCP control.

    Wanda founder, Wang jianlin, has to leave the property market and accede to princeling companies, sell their global assets to pledge loyalty.

    LKS may not be saint and is speculated to be a white glove for the Jiang family.

    In this incident, the CCP is using him as an example to start forceful take over of private assets, just like they bring down the landlords during the cultural revolution.

    Tech: Not saying that you are wrong, but just wanted to ask where did you get the info about Jack and Pony being supposedly forced to give up their wealth and company?

    As far as I know, Jack and Pony is still the richest top 10 man in China. Ali Baba is majority owned by SoftBank of Japan (since it being listed) and Tencent by another African VC company (can’t remember off hand the name), but that does not mean that the 2 men do not own any shares in these companies, although minor shares. Even Temasek has shared in AliBaba.

    Jack’s main business is no longer AliBaba and his major business is actually AliPay, which is drawing most of his wealth and it is family owned. As for Pony Ma of Tencent, he is still getting a lot of money from WeChat, which is developed jointly by his co-founder.

    As for Wanda, its a different story and his family was rumored to have offended some big shot when his business decided to venture into Malaysia, some offshore city project, if I remember correctly.

    It is said that China can do without Wanda but it cannot do without AliPay and WeChat because they combined are the LARGEST cashless payment processor in the country. Should the 2 decides to shut off AliPay and WeChat for a month, the banks in China would crawl on their knees.

    So which is why I am doubfull about the CCP allegedly fixing the 2 since they are now the 2 most powerful businessmen in the country. The CCP is surely not so stupid to shoot the 2, whose companies are keeping the economy going.

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  • Read The Right Things:

    Simple man is confused because he has been getting his materials from infiltrated media by Chinese propaganda machinery which is now very widespread,
    then rehash and parrot them.

    Why is he advocating for CCP in SG? Is he joining the communist party or beholden to them?
    he thinks Kleptocrats stealing from country is good or police violence is justified? or lack of transparency or accountability is good? that’s what the CCP is behaving like, rule by law.
    or is he confused between the CCP and pappy as they are so much alike?

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  • BK:

    Democracy is “ang no tua kee”? Karl Marx was Chinese ? U have a serious complex issue.

    Sun Yat Sen was enamored with the US, he also “Ang no tua kee”? That’s a kind of sickness permeating these PAP and China chauvinists.

    Young ppl of Singapore are much wiser than u are.

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  • The Right Stuffs:

    Simple man is confused because he has been getting his materials from infiltrated media by Chinese propaganda machinery which is now very widespread,
    then rehash and parrot them.

    Why is he advocating for CCP in SG? Is he joining the communist party or beholden to them?
    he thinks Kleptocrats stealing from country is good or police violence is justified? or lack of transparency or accountability is good? that’s what the CCP is behaving like, rule by law.
    or is he confused between the CCP and pappy as they are so much alike?

    oxygen:
    GOONDU NEVER READ THIS RIGHT FROM THE HORSE MOUTH, Chinadaily.com – Mao hated peasants.

    Famous quote from late Chairman Mao Zedong: The masses’ eyes are discerning. We would like to share it with all those taking public hearings as cosmetic.

    http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/opinion/2009-12/25/content_9228239.htm

    He probably had more concubines than any other Chinese emperor.

    http://factsanddetails.com/china/cat2/sub6/item71.html

    China daily belongs to the mighty party. they print the right stuffs.

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  • The Right Stuffs:

    Bad Boy:
    只有中国人能在任何地方睡午觉

    https://xw.qq.com/cmsid/TWF2019081600888500

    Not only China, India Bangladesh , sri Lanka foreign workers….etc.
    Same thing in the afternoon, u see them sleeping in the hdb void deck. Mobile any how put on the floor.

    tencent qq belongs to the mighty party, they print the right stuffs. it’s one of the BAT.
    fines are deducted immediately from WeChat. it’s part of the chinese tracking and surveillance network.

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  • DontBeDeceived:

    The evil of inequality is everywhere.China’s economic progress which had lifted millions out of poverty is still at a premature stage and it would be misleading to look at the initial fast tracked progress. China will not be the exception( like all others mature cities) once they past the ”romance stage” flirting with an unforgiving economy which will eventually set them all on fire.

    When that happens the head takes the rap and democracy facilitates the change of (person) at the helm which is not representative of the change of ”head of govt”.

    A one-party govt differs only in that the person seated in power, who ultimately decides what is good and evil for the nation, has or can have almost an eternal hold on power. The democratically elected leader however has shorted lived absolute(most powerful person) power.

    Structurally, whether your preference is democratic or otherwise(one party rule) makes no different because the ”Head of govt” is still the same(unchanged) and it will lead to the same outcome – constantly at war.

    In short, you can periodically change ”the person” at the helm or have a system which keeps ”the person” in power much longer but the stupid Head is still the same.

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  • PAP.GUARANTEE.FLOP.GE2019/20:

    You are really funny. 70% already canon fodder for PAP. So is there any need to exhort on so many artcles for Sporeans not to be canon fodder for oppo?

    What’s your stupid point? Democracy, autocracy or communism – they all have a leader who decides.

    Cont’d to mindlessly eat PAP puss*.

    PAP.GUARANTEE.WIN.GE2019/20:
    To all Singaporeans,
    Please do not be canon fodder for the opposition.

    In Hong Kong, all the pro-democracy MP and their own children were not at the frontline.

    The pro-democracy MP merely instigate and make use of their supporters to charge while the MP and their children are far far away in the comfort of their homes.

    All voters must ask your opposition MP these 3 questions:

    Q1. Why you and your family members are not at the frontline leading the charge? Ask your opposition MP if they are sending their children away to a safe place such as UK.

    Point them to Hong Kong shameless pro-democracy MPs who hide at home while making use of their supporters to charge.

    Q2. Please show us if you possess other countries passport beside Singapore passport.

    Point them to the Hong Kong shameless 3rd class singer Denis Ho.
    She has Canadian passport and she is instigating the protestors to riot knowing she is safe as anytime she can run road to Canada.

    News from 港人講地:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV_pWmwt7pI

    Q3. What can you opposition do for me ?

    So, Singaporeans, Do not be canon fodder for opposition politicians.

    What can opposition do for you except talk cock sing song to make you song only but no real action ?

    Vote PAP. Vote for 9% GST. Vote for more FT so SG own son drive grab taxi.

    Vote PAP and huat, huat, huat ah.

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  • Yah lah, yah lah:

    PAP.GUARANTEE.WIN.GE2019/20: To all Singaporeans,
    Please do not be canon fodder for the opposition.

    Being the canon fodder for one party is enough.
    You do NS, you die your business.
    You put all your income and life savings into HDB. In the end, it is kosong. You are economic canon fodder.

    Time to reclaim your freedom. VTO!

    PAP.GUARANTEE.FLOP.GE2019/20: ou are really funny. 70% already canon fodder for PAP. So is there any need to exhort on so many artcles for Sporeans not to be canon fodder for oppo?

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  • TruBlu:

    Western *educated* does not mean they are not communist-minded?

    What has western education got to do with political *systems* in the definitive?
    Must western education be equal to democracy?

    This is shallow thinking.

    Have no one heard of EURO-COMMUNISTS BEFORE,even from WESTERN EDUCATED MINDS?

    TKL,you are getting senile or are you a PAPpy Mole?

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  • oxygen:

    @ The Right Stuffs:

    IT WAS CHINA DAILY’s confession on what was wrong with Chinese politics and history in today’s context.

    MAO’S THOUGHTS WERE HYPOCRITICAL of advancing peasants’ interest.

    The Right Stuffs: China daily belongs to the mighty party. they print the right stuffs.

    His true color is revealed in private.

    oxygen: Famous quote from late Chairman Mao Zedong: The masses’ eyes are discerning. We would like to share it with all those taking public hearings as cosmetic.

    http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/opinion/2009-12/25/content_9228239.htm

    Just like his fake facade of austere public life, but in private, he was decadent as any other feudal Chinese emperors.

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  • Limpeh Say it swee:

    Any political model is fundamentally the same :

    Your have a top leader controlling the whole country, either president of communist party or Dictatorship or pm of democracy.

    Power structure is fundamentally the same.

    Difference is how that leader is Chosen or elected. Communist party election is not election per se because election is for the electorate. What it is , is a selection or appointment.

    But english being the tool for law, can let law makers have so much play that :

    1. Elected President can be one who was never elected by the electorate.

    2. Leasee is ‘Owner’ of flat Owned by hdb.

    This is singapore standard.

    Even a Democracy can effectively be a dictatorship. Case in point, the Democratic republic of North Korea.
    There is another asian small coubtry like this but out of self preservation i dare not say which country this is. So, sorry guys, you all will never know the answer.

    SO MY POINT IS, TKL IS RIGHT BECAUSE ITS NOT THE POLITICAL MODEL BUT THE quality of the LEADER and his ability to give the people a good abd progressive life that matters. Communism need not be bad. I feel sorry for the alleged marxists whose lives were essentiallu destroyed by a flawed logic in thinking. But there is no karmic effect on this wrong done to the victims of political power struggle.

    English is not a science but an art which means it allows for oral mastrbation enjoyed by liars.

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  • NimaHo:

    Quote:
    Q3. What can you opposition do for me ?

    So, Singaporeans, Do not be canon fodder for opposition politicians.

    What can opposition do for you except talk cock sing song to make you song only but no real action ?

    Vote PAP. Vote for 9% GST. Vote for more FT so SG own son drive grab taxi.

    Vote PAP and huat, huat, huat ah.

    Thumbs up. We compared the questions “What can you opposition do for me?” and What can the 4G PAP do for us? Seriously, after drawing the Do and Don’t chart, we have to put more oppos into parliament to get all the answers that we have been interested to know. We want Singapore and Singaporeans to live comfortably and has the freedom to chose own livestyle not restricted or constrained by lopsided law. Do not set retirement age for elderly just because you think they can and should work till they die. This is cruelty and like skinning elderly like kuey lapis. Vote Huat ah.

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  • manageable adaptive manner:

    //I have read remarks by many well educated Americans who expressed dismay at their “democratic” political system. They said that their democracy is “bought” by the wealthy people who are able to get their sponsored politicians elected, who then passed laws to safeguard the interest of the rich.//

    aiyoh. but at least the people can vote in freely for some unknown independents to change the undesirable order ?

    a freer system is always better than authoritarian system ? it lets steam to escape slowly and in a more manageable adaptive manner than an explosive burst in a bottled up system ?

    just that even in democracies, people can be hardwired to choose between two or three well or better known parties (lesser of the two or three evils) ?

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  • Ah Tech ah! AhTech ah!:

    If u call yourself a Tech, then do yourself a favour get outside the firewall and look outside for yourself mah!

    Will CCP ever allow anything to be called “powerful” inside China, other than the Party and the Party leadership? Even outside of China, China Chinese businessmen dare meh?

    TRE TECH: So which is why I am doubfull about the CCP allegedly fixing the 2 since they are now the 2 most powerful businessmen in the country. The CCP is surely not so stupid to shoot the 2, whose companies are keeping the economy going.

    Why CCP need to fix any China Chinese businessmen? When CCP is already themselves the businessmen?

    “In 2016, Xi chaired a national meeting that cleared the way for a more expansive role for the party in enterprise. In 2017, the measures were further extended, with the body overseeing big state companies directing them to write the party into their articles of association. In 2018, the securities regulator followed up by issuing a new corporate governance code requiring listed firms, at home and abroad, to include in their internal guidelines an expansive role for the party. Many Chinese companies listed in Hong Kong also wrote the party’s role into their articles of association”

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jul/25/china-business-xi-jinping-communist-party-state-private-enterprise-huawei

    Tech: Thanks for the info, will read up more on this.

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  • full of righteousness:

    //The only real advantage of democracy is the ability for the voters to change the government that they do not support. This is more fiction than real. In many countries, the system of voting is corrupt and favor the incumbent. It takes a lot of effort to throw out a bad government in many corrupt countries.//

    if the system of voting is corrupt, then it is no democracy and cannot be called democracy lar ?

    similar to lagi best sinkie land, all the grand hype about elected pestidency for a particular race but magically no elerection as somehow all others not qualified but only the white idiotic chosen one is qualified ?

    the white gang likes to preach (righteousness) about integrity to the lesser daft sinkies, but their own wayang is superb and of the highest order for bigger important matter like the elected pestidency ?

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  • Left to australia:

    PAP.GUARANTEE.WIN.GE2019/20: Denis Ho

    u are really weird. The 70% have been cannon fodder for the pap for a long long time..in fct the the Ft intake to replace sinkies are already a proof of this

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  • Bad Boy:

    Fake news or propaganda? At your own discretion.

    FT把腾讯和阿里拒向百行征信上交用户数据的行为给捅出来之后,影响已经开始慢慢发酵了。

    这件事情可能略微有些敏感,我尽量圆滑的来解释一下。

    百行征信这家公司,是央行在背后支持、银监会牵头成立的一个市场组织,本意是打破个人信用在互联网端的孤岛分布,由这个实体来统筹协调。

    所以主流的几家社会征信机构、以及实际上拥有了征信能力的腾讯与阿里两大巨头,都被拉到这个系统里来,每家认了8%的股权,然后大头给了互联网金融协会,占股36%。

    事实证明,这种平均主义的分配,仍然是违背商业规律的,尤其是你把互为死敌的两家公司都放进来,大家酒桌上可以打个哈哈畅谈合作愉快,私底下又怎么可能真的把逢场作戏当一回事。

    所以到了真要交数据的时候,腾讯和阿里不约而同的都给拒了,不好意思,不给。

    外媒对此大惊小怪的原因在于,这着实不太吻合中国的国情,哪有这样暴露政治觉悟的,当然他们也采访到了参与谈判的一线人士,后者借媒体之口道出了苦衷:如果是央行来要数据,我们肯定早就给了,绝无推辞。

    关键就是来伸手要数据的百行征信,它在资质上不是政府机构,而是一个和腾讯、阿里平级的商业公司,自身也是会开展市场业务的,所以,凭啥你要了我就得给?

    但是百行征信的血统也确实是来自央行的,央行自己有一套征信系统,数据来源于各大银行这类传统金融实体,和互联网公司不搭边,为了不产生遗漏,就用百行征信这个壳去统战互联网公司,大概是出于遵守市场游戏规则的用意,就以市场化的方式来推进项目,没想到顿时说话就不管用了。

    于是,在轰轰烈烈的成立并经营了一年多的时间之后,百行征信的用户数据只覆盖了区区6330万人,而腾讯和阿里都是10亿级别的用户数据,完全比不了。

    腾讯和阿里也很委屈,这都是我辛辛苦苦沉淀下来的资源,怎么能随便共享给自己并不信任的第三方民营公司,出了事情算谁的?数据安全谁负责?支付宝的数据哪天流到了腾讯那边怎么办?

    所以就一地鸡毛了,马化腾连腾讯征信的法人身份都不要了,大概也是生怕被迫亲触这笔糊涂账。

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  • Jman:

    Politicians in so called “democracies” are these days almost entirely beholden to large corporations and tech companies. They bend over backwards for these corporate leeches, to the point it has become clear to many that elected leaders have very little influence these days.

    Corporations run the show from behind the scenes. The very people who shouldn’t, but are running the show because the liberal capitalism has led to the widespread decay of politics in democracies.

    It has gone too far for too long. Costs cannot rise forever, and corporations need to be cut down to size, and politicians need to make decisions without giving such a wide berth to the money factor.

    You only have to look to HK to see the complete decay of their system underneath the shiny veneer of their buildings.

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