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Is it necessary to close business premises for deep cleaning?

When an infected person visits a mall or food center, the ministers decide to close the close the business premises for a few days for deep cleaning. They said that it was necessary to stop the spread of the virus.

I wonder if this approach makes sense.

I am aware that the virus can stay alive on surfaces for one or two days. They experts made this pronouncement. I do not doubt it.

But I ask – is the virus on the surface likely to be stronger than the virus that are still in the human body which is being transmitted by the host to nearby people?

I suspect that the virus on the surface is likely to be mild, even if it is still active.

Our bigger risk are the virus that are still in the bodies of a few hundred or thousands of infected people.

If my reasoning is correct, then I conclude that the closing of business premises for deep cleaning is probably not helping much to stop the spread of the virus.

We have to accept that the virus will spread, and hope that in most cases the virus are mild. So far, this appears to be the case in Singapore.

I do not agree with the closure of the business premises that are visited by the infected persons. The risk of spreading the virus is low. The collateral damage is huge.

Many businesses in the affected premises will be badly affected by the temporary closure.

So far, few people question the necessity to close the business premises. They seem to accept that it is necessary. They disregard the collateral damage in the interest of “doing everything possible to eradicate the virus”.

Surely we can afford to live with the virus, if it remains largely mild?

I hope that some experts will enlighten me on my reasoning.

Idiots who think that they are smart should refrain from showing their arrogance and giving their nonsensical views.

 

Tan Kin Lian

 

 

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17 Responses to “Is it necessary to close business premises for deep cleaning?”

  • No logic:

    Do they deep cleaning the buses and trains. So funny, no one Kenna in bus interchanges and MRT stations. We better camp there, since so safe.

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  • liew mun leong must be jailed:

    No logic:
    Do they deep cleaning the buses and trains. So funny, no one Kenna in bus interchanges and MRT stations. We better camp there, since so safe.

    according to pap BS, covid virus never stays in mrt bus one.

    covid virus only stays outside mrt bus.

    that is why, for false security reasoning sake, pap mandates market cleaning, school cleaning but never mrt bus cleaning.

    pap PA paid IBs say, those who carry covid virus on mrt bus cannot be captured.

    hahaha. then, WTF is the token for?

    we don’t take bus mrt. so we don’t know if there is token tapping in when boarding the bus mrt or not. but if going into a place needs toekn tapping, surely going into bus mrt must token tapping too since an infected person going into bus mrt can spread covid virus sama sama as when same person goes into a place.

    can any bro or sis tell whether going into bus mrt need to tap token or not. Thank you very much in advance for the information.

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  • Mr Tan very good person, always speak up for the local SMEs. Must support!

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  • Pioneer:

    I also disagree with the closure of business premises just bcos infected persons have visited the said premises. I dunno how they arrived at this logic. Furthermore, cleaning only the dinning tables and chairs, and other things outside the food stalls is an incomplete regime, when most of the food stalls are closed and no cleaning is being carried out inside the stalls as well. This is called an half-past-six job being carried out or not thorough at all !

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  • @Pioneer

    I cannot, not agree with you on this.

    All the measures so far are half-baked, good to see but none so effective, a complete waste of time and resources.

    The C19 can only survive a few hours, at most a day on fomites, clean what clean? At most close the shop for a day or two more than sufficient to kill/weaken the C19 virus.

    Besides with packed MRT and buses, what’s the point if only the shops are specky clean?

    Like I have said many times, a team of idiots taking Sinkies on multiple merry-go-round spins. lol

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  • closed shop:

    Many business will closed shop if this continue..
    Must find a better way to control the Virus spread…
    Not one size fit all.

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  • I bet u bet:

    Many hawkers have dirty habits.
    Saw them went toilets,did not wash hands and back to stalls,even food courts’ hawkers.

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  • What's wrong ?:

    Its Ok. Business closed for short term. After all, these business owners were making tons of money pre Covid 19 and what have they contributed to the public.

    TKL you sounds very angry. What’s wrong with you ? You have been making a lot of comments but don’t forget that you are not a Medical or Scientific expert at all. Ha ha

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  • Low-Bat:

    One day, token battery died, went to CC to change token battery. A special counter was set & a lady sat (I believe) whole day doing nothing waiting for people to change battery. So much for productivity but this is not my point here.

    After changing battery, I asked where can I buy the battery. She replied we can’t no counter sale, is free. Sound good. Then I asked what happened if on going into establishments suddenly low bat not working how? We replied, use TT App, I said old people don’t have app only token cause G insist compulsory, how? Then she said, use NRIC lor.

    Now, do you see my point? Wtf spending unnecessary money making compulsory scanning by app or token, if we can simply scan NRIC?

    If token failed can use NRIC who’s bothered to go change battery? This encounter with the lady at CC taught me one lesson – next time token no battery don’t bother to change. Just carry it along, go through the motion to scan in. Failed, use NRIC.

    THEN, YOU BEAT ONE FORM OF “BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU” ALSO THE SO CALLED SMART NATION SYSTEMS. YOU DIG?

    liew mun leong must be jailed: according to pap BS, covid virus never stays in mrt bus one.

    covid virus only stays outside mrt bus.

    that is why, for false security reasoning sake, pap mandates market cleaning, school cleaning but never mrt bus cleaning.

    pap PA paid IBs say, those who carry covid virus on mrt bus cannot be captured.

    hahaha. then, WTF is the token for?

    we don’t take bus mrt. so we don’t know if there is token tapping in when boarding the bus mrt or not. but if going into a place needs toekn tapping, surely going into bus mrt must token tapping too since an infected person going into bus mrt can spread covid virus sama sama as when same person goes into a place.

    can any bro or sis tell whether going into bus mrt need to tap token or not. Thank you very much in advance for the information.

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  • Smart Nation:

    I read that the viral load is low for the vaccinated who are infected. If that’s true, there is no reason to restrict them from gathering together or going back to work. There may not even be the need for them to wear mask when they are together in one place. If they fall ill, just have to see the doctor and recover at home. With vaccination, tracing, quarantine and treatment, businesses (including F&B) can open, religious services can resume, and the vaccinated can return to work. As for the older people and unvaccinated they just have to wear their masks and be more careful around others. The MTF will have to make up its minds whether or not to open up the economy so that the people will not be kept in a limbo.

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  • Trains & Buses = Covid19 HUB:

    Trains & Buses are undeniably the conspicuous Covid19HUBs but remain deliberately promiscuous.

    Commuters of all creeds and ages are ezlinked and multilinked in jampacked cabins and decks, day-in-day-out.

    Those ‘Unlinked’ cases could be easily traced to public transport if contact tracing were carried out 100%.

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  • House of laughing hyenas:

    Deep Cleaning is a False Understanding.
    The air ducts are not replaced. What deep cleaning?

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  • #06-191 Bang your head and die:

    Yes

    TRE Techie:
    @Pioneer

    I cannot, not agree with you on this.

    All the measures so far are half-baked, good to see but none so effective, a complete waste of time and resources.

    The C19 can only survive a few hours, at most a day on fomites, clean what clean? At most close the shop for a day or two more than sufficient to kill/weaken the C19 virus.

    Besides with packed MRT and buses, what’s the point if only the shops are specky clean?

    Like I have said many times, a team of idiots taking Sinkies on multiple merry-go-round spins. lol

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  • become a cold number:

    //I suspect that the virus on the surface is likely to be mild, even if it is still active.

    Our bigger risk are the virus that are still in the bodies of a few hundred or thousands of infected people.//

    aiyoh. virus may be weak on surface (over a period) lar but when it goes into the body (a nice cozy host ??), it may get “”nourished”" to become strong lar ??

    like when one is weak and sick and after that he goes to a hospital or clinic to get medicated (nourished ??), he becomes like a “”superman”" lar ???

    even superman (strong body) is afraid of “kryptonite” lar ?? and everyone’s body system reacts differently to different thing (some people get sick and ill easily ???) lar ??? anyway, if you study or get involved too much on statistics, it may just become a cold number lar ???

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  • Flipping Prata Agani & Again:

    They do have notice to remind commuters to scan in when going into MRT Stations, but not strictly implemented like malls and others must scan-in otherwise cannot go in.

    I am sure they happily not strictly impose the compulsory scan-in for whatever reason you know. If I am running such system, I also don’t want any data to be known, bad publicity you know.

    Same for bus interchanges, but nothing to scan when one boards the bus.

    PAP closes one eye here. OYK, over to you, how? None of PAP MPs including Opp MPs raise this in Parliament. WTF!

    liew mun leong must be jailed:

    can any bro or sis tell whether going into bus mrt need to tap token or not. Thank you very much in advance for the information.

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  • oxygen:

    THE UNLINKED CASES might be the undetected without symptoms who is already in
    their own recovery fightback of their own natural immunity.

    If the aforementioned is not true, they would collapse suddenly and die on public street or transports, right?

    Yet this is not happening.

    UNLINKED CASES IS UNKNOWN UNKNOWN.

    Trains & Buses = Covid19 HUB: Those ‘Unlinked’ cases could be easily traced to public transport if contact tracing were carried out 100%.

    How many unlinked cases – if not detected by MOH – then goes on to their own natural recovery path and came out stronger than vaccinated case?

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  • MarBowling:

    Thousands of commuters are taking MRT and bus to work and elsewhere to do their stuffs. At peak hours, the transport system are sardin-packed! Could we assume that some of those KTVs and JFP INFECTED folks have taken rides on either bus or MRT during the BIG HUHA KTV/JFP fiasco. And yet there was NO REPORT of Health Minister Ong Toh giving instruction to INVESTIGATE this LIKELY SOURCE of infection.

    This CLEARLY SHOWS how our World Class Ministerial Trash Force has been VERY SELECTIVE when they DISH OUT their daily MASSAGED data on Covid19 situation for SinKaporean! Was wondering whether those KTV/JFP INFECTED folks ALSO have visited the Polyclinic or Hospital near their home? THINK just a few of these folks seeking medical treatment in the RESPECTIVE Polyclinic/Hospital all over the shop in SinKapore MAY INFECT other patients as these places are jam-packed during the peak hours nowadays! Am sure with Impotent oops Important DATA from that damn Holee Trace Together Token, Ong Toh should be able to KNOW whether there is ANY CROSS-INFECTION as a result of the DAILY MASS INTERACTION of our folks all over the shop in SinKapore? THINK there must be INSTRUCTIONS from his Big Boss to ACT BOTH BLUR and SMART! Otherwise, if GO BY LOGIC, when a Polyclinic or Hospital Kenna INFECTED like KTV/JFP, they too have to be CLOSED and undergo CLEANING until they are CERTIFIED CLEAN AS BABY before reopening again!

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