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Foreign Interference

The late Francis Seow

I feel really angry about these repeated, unfounded allegations that the late Mr Francis Seow was offered payment by the United States to join opposition politics and contest in the 1988 general election.

I was in prison when the 1988 general election took place. As we all know, Francis Seow stood as a candidate of the Workers’ Party in Eunos GRC. I was certainly excited that he had the guts to stand for election so soon after he was released from ISA detention. Some senior ISD officers bragged to me that the government had been very decent and magnanimous to release Francis Seow in time for him to contest the election. Big deal!

I do not believe the PAP’s allegation that First Secretary Hank Hendrickson was involved in cultivating lawyers to join the opposition. We must not forget that in 1986, Francis Seow was the president of the Law Society of Singapore. As a president, it was natural for ambassadors in Singapore to want to meet him. And it was also natural that Francis Seow would have brought along fellow lawyers to meet the ambassador.

ISD officers used to tell me that ambassadors are actually spies for their home countries. Their job is to know what is happening in the country and report to their government. I am sure our ambassadors are also spies for Singapore. Meeting people to get a feel of the political and economic situation of the country is part of their duty. And so for Frank Hendrickson to meet Francis Seow and other lawyers was the most natural thing to happen.

We must also not forget that in 1986, the Amendment to the Newspaper and Printing Presses Bill was presented in parliament. PM Lee Kuan Yew was very angry that the foreign presses had the gall to criticise his government. He accused them of commenting on “domestic politics”. The new law would forbid them from criticising Singapore. Only Singaporean politicians are allowed to comment on politics. Naturally, I think, Hendrickson would be interested to know the views of lawyers on this Bill.

In 1986, Francis Seow and many lawyers opposed the new Bill. As president, he appointed a committee to look into this bill and to present a report to the society to be sent to the attorney general.

I happened to be the chairperson of this committee and we worked very hard to prepare a report for the society. Upon completion, we sent it to the Law Society which in turn sent it to the attorney general, Tan Boon Teik. I was told that Tan did not even acknowledge receipt of the report. Such arrogance of an attorney-general is hard to fathom.

I cannot remember very much of events that took place more than 30 years ago. But I recall that in those exciting and troublesome days, I too met Hank Hendrickson together with a few lawyers, including the Late Mr Subhas Anandan over lunch. I cannot remember where but it could have been the American Club. I also cannot remember what we talked about but it certainly was nothing about him egging us on to join the opposition or promising us political asylum or money for going into opposition politics if we ever want to do so. What benefit would he derive from us joining the opposition? Now that I have disclosed this meeting, I wonder if the ISD would like to interrogate me.

I don’t know how often Francis Seow had lunch with Hank Hendrickson but I wouldn’t think it was a weekly affair or more often than PAP ministers meeting up with him. As for me, I can only remember it was just one occasion.

I recall that soon after the Amendment to the Newspaper and Printing Presses Bill was passed, all the foreign publications were gazetted i.e. they were not allowed to sell more than 500 copies in Singapore. Far Eastern Economic Review, Asiaweek, Asian Wall Street Journal, Times of London, Herald Tribune, Newsweek and even the Economist were gazetted within a matter of months. Foreign publications left our shores and Lee was happy. His government didn’t care because it knew that they would return one day as Singapore seems to be a very important city to them. So the PAP continued its oppression of the people after the foreign presses left our shores. It was good for them because no one would be able to criticise the government when it does bad things. The government then took the opportunity to arrest 22 people including me in May and June 1987. We were labelled Marxists not communists as in earlier times.

One would have thought that if foreign influence was the target in the 1987 arrests, I would have been interrogated for meeting Hank Hendrickson. Yet I was not. In fact, none of us was asked about lunches with the American ambassador. Why then did the ISD and the government raise this issue foreign interference only when they arrested Francis Seow one year later, in 1988?

The reason is very simple. Francis Seow cannot be labelled as a Marxist or communist. No one would believe the PAP if he was called a Marxist or communist. It would have been the joke of the town if they had done so. Francis Seow was a capitalist and loved life. So how can the ISD make up a “credible” story to justify his arrest? The simplest way or so they thought was to accuse him of being cultivated by the Americans to join the opposition. But even if this is true, the allegation is extremely stupid. What is wrong with joining the opposition and fighting against the PAP in a legitimate general election? It is for the people to decide whether to elect him or not.

In the general election rallies of 1988, the cowardly PAP did not accuse Francis Seow of being used by the Americans. Why didn’t they do so?

The answer is simple. Francis would be able to rebut and ask them to show proof. So they kept quiet throughout the election period. It was only after Francis Seow left Singapore that he was again accused of being an agent for the United States. The PAP knew that he would not be able to return to Singapore after he was denied of his NCMP seat.

But fortunately for us, Francis Seow in a recorded interview denied the PAP’s accusation against him and you can listen to what he has to say here. [LINK]

I am sure the ISD knew that I met up with Hendrickson for lunch. Yet when I was first arrested in May 1987, the ISD never asked me about my meeting with Hendrickson. Neither did they ask me about Hendrickson when Francis Seow was arrested when he came to interview me in prison. Why didn’t the government also accuse me of being made use of by Hendrickson? Or arrest Subhas Anandan for having lunch with Hendrickson?

This bogey of foreign interference is just a convenient tool of the PAP. It may have worked in Lee Kuan Yew’s time but I believe it will fail today. Singaporeans are smarter than the PAP leaders think.

Unfortunately, today’s PAP leaders are like old dogs which cannot learn new tricks. So they follow Lee Kuan Yew’s ways which to his credit, worked very well in his days.

Come on Ministers. Stand up for yourselves and don’t rely on old tricks of your long gone leaders.

 

Teo Soh Lung

 

 

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37 Responses to “Foreign Interference”

  • Harder Truths:

    “The fact that so many successful politicians are such shameless liars is not only a reflection on them, it is also a reflection on us. When the people want the impossible, only liars can satisfy.”

    ― Thomas Sowell

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  • born to lose:

    There is nothing anyone can do to stop this bill being passed.

    Lament, curse, write all you want.
    Every time, it is said that we will vote them out.. but each time all turn chicken and will vote them in.

    All are chicken.

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    Dear Teo,
    Have you not been backstabbed by Americunts or the racist Anglo Saxon race ?

    No ? Well please give France President Emmanuel Macron a call for an update.

    Just because Americunts everyday shout/tout human rights and Americunts are angels ?

    Do you want to be canon fodders to be manipulated, used and then dumped?

    Suddenly all the Ang Mo Tua Kees yellow banana all go into hiding and diam diam diam.

    香港示威「612」CIA/NED Briefing ?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtqws5QQHPY

    PAP supporters please print/distribute/share my post.
    In Dollar$ We Tru$t. Prai$e the Dollar$. Glory be with the Dollar$

    GE2024.PAP.Guarantee.Win.Again
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    Singaporeans must be Cheaperer, Betterer, Fasterer

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  • lamda:

    Yesterday 23.09.2021
    Melbourne Tens of thousands on the streets to protest.
    All sort of professions.

    Msm reported only ‘hundreds’ in protests instead and losing steam.
    Lucky there is social media to tell the truth.

    From media manipulation, now there is media blackout. Youtube is censoring too.
    Learning fast from HK administration in shutting down HK.

    God Bless Australia. Should Call China to learn how to shoot protesters in the eyes.

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  • MarBowling:

    Just follow the LOONG GONE LEEder’s PROVEN SCHEMES OF THINGS: What’s Wrong With Collecting More Money! What’s Wong With More Draconian Laws to ENSURE the PERPETUAL GRIP OF POWER BY the FamiLEE DieNasty and by extension the GRIP ON THE IMPERIAL THRONE!

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  • MarBowling:

    born to lose:
    September 23, 2021 at 11:17 pm (Quote)
    There is nothing anyone can do to stop this bill being passed.

    Lament, curse, write all you want.
    Every time, it is said that we will vote them out.. but each time all turn chicken and will vote them in.

    All are chicken.

    Response: well said. A CHICKEN oops SUCKER is born EVERY MINUTE, PERIOD! Hat off and salute the 61.24% to ENSURE THIS IS POSSIBLE AND NEVER ENDING!

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  • Can't fool all but yourself:

    What does it profit a man that he should gain Dominion over the whole world only to lose his own soul to eternity?

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  • Lie Con u eat shit:

    What I remember about Francis Seow was he was a FEARLESS MAN who talked his mind. There were many in the first generation of leaders who had the courage to talk back at LEE KAYU. If there is one thing that the KAYU cannot stand is people talking back at him and challenge his authority. That is why that people like Devan Nair, JBJ and Francis Seow HAD TO GO.

    I remember in one debate Francis Seow REALY GAVE IT TO THE OLD BASTARD LEE KAYU.LEE KAYU was fumbling for a reply. I HAD NEVER SEEN THE OLD BASTARD SO LOST THAN IN THAT DEBATE.

    LEE KAYU could only BULLY PEOPLE LESSER THAN HIM. He was a POLITICAL COWARD. This is the HARD TRUTH.

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    I rephrase my earlier post :

    Dear Teo,
    Have I have been backstabbed by Papigs or the racist South Asian race ?

    Yes ? Well please give most admirable China President Xi Jinping or Taiwan President Dr Tsai Ing Wen a call for an update.

    Just because Papigs everyday shout/tout anti-human rights and Papigs are angels ?

    We not only love Americans but my great grandmaster went further invited their navy to sail freely into our port for use of our naval base and facilities.

    My great grandmaster also purchased F35 planes and he was so happy flying his expensive toy at every NDP!!

    So much for Americunts that had bought over the hearts of my great grandmaster and his party who betrayed and stabbed me.

    I regretted and I don’t want to be canon fodders to be manipulated, used and then dumped.

    Suddenly all the Papigs yellow banana all go into hiding and diam diam.

    PAP supporters please print/distribute/share my post.
    In Dollar$ We Tru$t. Prai$e the Dollar$. Glory be with the Dollar$

    GE2024.PAP.Guarantee.Win.Again
    Majullah $PAP$ $PAP$ Huat$ Huat$ Huat$
    Singaporeans must be Cheaperer, Betterer, Fasterer

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  • LKY Ears Turned Red:

    I remembered watching the debate between LKY and Francis Seow on TV. At one stage of the debate, LKY face and both ears turned red as he tried to answer Francis allegation. Looked like LKY was struggling in the debate.

    On our color TV it can be seen very clearly the ears turning red.

    Fantestic Debate because LKY seldom struggle in any debate until he met Francis Seow.

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  • xoxo:

    Welcome Foreign Talents.
    It is not Foreign interference.
    These are FTs,dont be xenophobic?

    As we welcome FTs to take over jobs sgs supposedly cannot do or do better,we MUST LEAD BY EXAMPLE,BY WELCOMING FTs to our PUBLIC SERVICE so as to IMPROVE THE TALENT POOL.

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  • oxygen:

    WARY OF “foreign interference”?

    TO AVOID DOUBTS, just ask US VP Kamala Harris and Chinese FM Wang Yi why were they in ROTATION visited here and WHAT subject-matter they did both discuss with who privately with relevant counterparts in Singkieland?

    They could interact via internet, couldn’t they?

    The catchwords – foreign interference – have, to my knowledge, never defined in politics and law.

    Or perhaps it encompasses “anything” that lit the prairie fire under the a*ses of domestic politics squabbles of trivial pursuits but offending of sensitivities in some easily agitated quarters?

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  • What say WP ?:

    Kalama Harris ? Wang Yi?

    No need to point so far.

    The gas guy from Auzzie himself is good example of foreign interference.

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  • oxygen:

    @ What say WP,

    LOST YOUR KNICKERS, resort to ad hominem attack.

    What say WP ?: Kalama Harris ? Wang Yi?

    No need to point so far.

    The gas guy from Auzzie himself is good example of foreign interference.

    SHAMELESS mousey rat.

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  • Ozzygen:

    Well said. Well said.

    What say WP ?:
    Kalama Harris ? Wang Yi?

    No need to point so far.

    The gas guy from Auzzie himself is good example of foreign interference.

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  • oxygen:

    @ Ozzygen

    DULL, UNIMAGINATIVE, your vocabulary is limited to only 2 meaningless rant.

    Ozzygen: Well said. Well said.

    Paid at the rate of 10 cents per trolling post, it is not enough to pay for your school fees for mentally-retarded children.

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    lamda:
    Yesterday 23.09.2021
    Melbourne Tens of thousands on the streets to protest.
    All sort of professions.

    Msm reported only ‘hundreds’ in protests instead and losing steam.
    Lucky there is social media to tell the truth.

    From media manipulation, now there is media blackout. Youtube is censoring too.

    Why not you go on the ground and help us check whether it is hundreds or thousands protestors ?

    You trying to spread fake news here ?

    lamda:
    Learning fast from HK administration in shutting down HK.
    God Bless Australia. Should Call China to learn how to shoot protesters in the eyes.

    Shoot protesters in the eyes…

    hohohoho. You must be one of the stopid gullible Hong Kees who make good canon fodder to be make use of and later dumped like a soiled paper underwear.

    【on.cc東網】東方日報A1:爆眼女無爆眼 笑住去台灣
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s_5ofkRDqE

    Yes.. stopid gullible brainless people make good canon fodder for Dishone$t Hong Kee Lawyer Martin Lee who instigate the stopid students to charge at the frontline while he hides away from the front line and enjoy fine dining with his pastor, yes pastor.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXjSv3Hj-Xg

    PAP supporters please print/distribute/share my post.
    In Dollar$ We Tru$t. Prai$e the Dollar$. Glory be with the Dollar$

    GE2024.PAP.Guarantee.Win.Again
    Majullah $PAP$ $PAP$ Huat$ Huat$ Huat$
    Singaporeans must be Cheaperer, Betterer, Fasterer
    Workers must accept wage sacrifices to keep businesses going.

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    What say WP ?:
    Kalama Harris ? Wang Yi?

    No need to point so far.

    The gas guy from Auzzie himself is good example of foreign interference.

    Oh yes. Like one fellow forummer Mike say, if you want to talk SG politics,
    come to SG to talk.

    Don’t hide far far away like Hong Kee Martin Lee, who hide far away from the frontline enjoy fine dining while the stopid gullible brainless students face the police tear gas.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXjSv3Hj-Xg

    PAP supporters please print/distribute/share my post.
    In Dollar$ We Tru$t. Prai$e the Dollar$. Glory be with the Dollar$

    GE2024.PAP.Guarantee.Win.Again
    Majullah $PAP$ $PAP$ Huat$ Huat$ Huat$
    Singaporeans must be Cheaperer, Betterer, Fasterer

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  • Soccerbetting2:

    Reported on Straits Times :Quote-”Arrests, anger and court battles: The extradition case of Huawei CFO Meng Wanzhou

    Huawei Chief Financial Officer Meng Wanzhou leaves her home to attend a court hearing in Vancouver, on Sept 24, 2021.PHOTO: REUTERS
    PUBLISHED2 HOURS AGO
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    VANCOUVER (AFP, REUTERS) – The 2018 arrest in Vancouver of Huawei chief financial officer Meng Wanzhou on a US warrant, followed by China’s detention of two Canadians, sparked an unprecedented dispute between Beijing and Ottawa.

    On Friday (Sept 24), Meng reached an agreement with US prosecutors to end the bank fraud case against her, Assistant US Attorney David Kessler told a New York judge.

    The move should allow Meng to eventually leave Canada after nearly three years of detention and relieve a point of tension between China and the United States.

    Here is a timeline of Meng’s extradition case.

    Aug 22, 2018

    A New York court issues an arrest warrant for Meng to stand trial in the United States.

    Dec 1, 2018

    Meng is arrested by Canadian police in Vancouver as she changes planes. The arrest is not made public until Dec 5. The Chinese embassy in Canada demands her release.

    Dec 6, 2018

    Chinese officials say they have not been given a reason for Meng’s arrest. The White House and Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau both move to distance themselves from the case.

    Dec 7, 2018

    Court proceedings show that the United States issued the arrest warrant because it believes Meng covered up attempts by Huawei-linked companies to sell equipment to Iran, breaking US sanctions against the country.

    Dec 8, 2018

    China threatens Canada with consequences if it does not release Meng.

    Dec 10, 2018

    Two Canadians Michael Kovrig and Spavor are arrested in China.

    Dec 11, 2018

    Meng is released on bail to house arrest in Vancouver by a British Columbia court. US President Donald Trump tells Reuters he will intervene in the case if it would serve national interests.

    Jan 8, 2019

    Documents found by Reuters confirm Huawei’s links to companies suspected of operating in Iran and Syria, breaking sanctions.

    Jan 22, 2019

    The US Justice Department announces it will formally seek the extradition of Meng to the United States…”Unquote.

    Response : It is no surprise that US release Huawei rich chief financial woman officer Meng Wan Zhou.With money,still need to go to jail meh ! Look at Malaysia ex PM full of corruption also no need to go to jail yet still retain power in their Parliament ! And you all check whether “where is your badge” no mask rich woman got go to jail or not ? Those days of her in remand,isolation in covid hotel,at IMH probably added up and no mask woman don’t need to serve any single day in jail even her court sentence is jail ! Can Kasisviswanathan Shanmugam report out whether no mask woman is now inside jail or not ? Remand period isn’t really jail !

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  • oxygen:

    CONGRATULATIONS, ANOTHER PESKY troll above have just earned 10c for his/her troll in this thread for his “school fees” pretending to be “riding” on a stupid wooden horse persistently attacking HK/Taiwanese “opera” which is irrelevant to this thread and nobody else interested in knowing.

    So far (I counted) this mousey rat earned 40 cents for his/her MONOTONOUS circus buskering and carnival jestering theatrics over 24 hours.

    I suspect that tapping rubber or picking wild durians in the Malaysian jungles will be far more profitable than this pesky no enterprise “foreign interference” in Sinkieland’s politics/economics way above his/her empty intellect.

    I am actually left bewildered if his/her desiccated coconut can be found under his/her stinky armpit or inside his/her a*sehole.

    If I were to give this rat the full document of the Capitaland restructuring proposal to its shareholders to read and interpret, I am certain that his/her left hand would be found scratching his/her dessicated coconut and his/her right finger will be scratching his/her a*sehole AT THE SAME TIME.

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  • oxygen:

    THAT EXCEPTIONALLY HARDWORKING MOUSEY RAT referred to in my aforementioned post could only earned 40c over 24 hours stretch may find the Capitaland restructuring proposal way above the skills of a pesky circus buskering and carnival jestering of his/her accumulated experience.

    Maybe this asexual worm could try his luck in the casino of quick money, analysing and interpreting this smaller piece of financial news release.

    https://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/20210910/pdf/450c8trtgz9fhw.pdf

    THERE IS NO NEED FOR KNOWLEDGE IN GEOLOGY on this one, just some common sense insights will be sufficiently illuminating of risks analysis.

    It will take less than an hour to read of its content – far easier than working the ungodly hours of rubber tapping or durian picking or sleepless preoccupation with his/her own “foreign interference” in TRE earning 40c of “school fees”.

    If this ASX aannouncement is too hard, maybe this worm should still really go back to rubber tapping and durian picking, it is much less onerous of “skull-bashing” even though by then, this worm must know that his/her is really EMPTY OF INTELLECT obsessed solely with NEUROTIC bashing the intellects of HK and Taiwanese political actor/actresses.

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  • Ozzygen:

    Australia has become a brutal dictatorship.

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1441291518761783299

    More police brutalizing people already on the floor. Peaceful pro-democracy protesters get shot and get brutalized.

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  • MarBowling:

    LKY Ears Turned Red:
    September 24, 2021 at 2:01 pm (Quote)
    I remembered watching the debate between LKY and Francis Seow on TV. At one stage of the debate, LKY face and both ears turned red as he tried to answer Francis allegation. Looked like LKY was struggling in the debate.

    On our color TV it can be seen very clearly the ears turning red.

    Fantestic Debate because LKY seldom struggle in any debate until he met Francis Seow.

    Response: amidst Covid19 when there is so much restrictions on outside activities and also many dull programs being shown on TV, it would be GREAT if someone can manage TO RETRIEVE the video of that Holee Debate so that we True Blue Singaporean are able to watch that historical moment showing the ears of Lee Kayu turning RED, and maybe his Face Later Turning Blue!

    Tech: If I were the late Mr Lee, would I have allowed the video to be archived, I ask myself. If there was indeed a copy, it would certainly be worth millions.

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    I rephrase to supersede an earlier post hijacked by an imposter:

    Singaporeans R Free Riders:
    September 25, 2021 at 2:10 am  (Quote)

    lamda:
    Yesterday 23.09.2021
    Melbourne Tens of thousands on the streets to protest.
    All sort of professions.

    Msm reported only ‘hundreds’ in protests instead and losing steam.
    Lucky there is social media to tell the truth.

    From media manipulation, now there is media blackout. Youtube is censoring too.

    Why not I go on the ground to believe and get our stupoid ranked 167th MSM and debunk their lies that it is not hundreds but thousands of protestors ?

    You trying to debunk fake news and report the gospel truths here ?

    lamda:
    Learning fast from HK administration in shutting down HK.
    God Bless Australia. Should Call China to learn how to shoot protesters in the eyes.

    Shoot protestors in the eyes…

    hohohoho. I must be one of the stopid gullible Papigs who make good canon fodder to be make use of and later dumped like a soiled paper underwears.

    Yes.. stopid gullible brainless people like me making good canon fodder for Dishone$t. PAP Lawyers who instigate the stopid IB ball-lickers to charge at the frontline while they hide away from the front line and enjoy fine dining with my great grandmaster, yes great grandmaster.

    PAP SUCKERS please print/distribute/share my post.
    In Dollar$ We Tru$t. Prai$e the Dollar$. Glory be with the Dollar$

    GE2024.PAP.Guarantee.Win.Again
    Majullah $PAP$ $PAP$ Huat$ Huat$ Huat$
    Singaporeans must be Cheaperer, Betterer, Fasterer
    Workers must accept wage sacrifices to keep businesses going.

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  • Pappys Connivance & Deception:

    Machiavellianism is a personality trait that denotes Cunningness, the ability to manipulate, and the innate drive to use whatever means necessary to gain power for oneself. Machiavellianism is one of the traits comprising the Dark Triad, along with Narcissism and Psychopathy.

    The ”soft” dictator deems to ”guide” our democracy…..and needs a longer runway yet!

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  • xoxo:

    Sgs living abroad are not *foreigners*,unlike non-SGS LIVINVG N MAKING MONEY IN SG.
    So,for overseas SGS TO COMMENT ON SOCIO-POLTICAL MATTERS PERTAINING TO SG IS NOT FOREIGN INTERVENTION.
    ON THE OTHER HAND A FOREIGNER
    LIVING IN SG COMMENTING ON SG IS INTERFERENCE IN ALL SENSE!

    SGS’ LIVES HAVE BEEN INTERFERED IN A HUGE WAY BY THE GOVT’S FAKE FTs who form enclaves and bully sgs?

    FICA is another *chow kar* way of sgs-bashing.

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  • oxygen:

    @ Xoxo

    BANG ON the spot in every details, particularly the last line of your post comment.

    xoxo: Sgs living abroad are not *foreigners*,unlike non-SGS LIVINVG N MAKING MONEY IN SG.
    So,for overseas SGS TO COMMENT ON SOCIO-POLTICAL MATTERS PERTAINING TO SG IS NOT FOREIGN INTERVENTION.
    ON THE OTHER HAND A FOREIGNER
    LIVING IN SG COMMENTING ON SG IS INTERFERENCE IN ALL SENSE!

    SGS’ LIVES HAVE BEEN INTERFERED IN A HUGE WAY BY THE GOVT’S FAKE FTs who form enclaves and bully sgs?

    FICA is another *chow kar* way of sgs-bashing.

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  • oxygen:

    @ Ozzygen

    PLEASE TELL ME how many protesters were shot dead and how many hospitalized with gunshot wounds.

    Ozzygen: More police brutalizing people already on the floor. Peaceful pro-democracy protesters get shot and get brutalized.

    Otherwise your “overstatment” above fails of public entertainment.

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  • A note to Jedi Teo .....:

    “Your arrogance blinds you, Master Yoda. Now you will experience the full power of the Dark Side… You will not stop me! Darth Vader will become more powerful than either of us!”

    - Darth Sidious, Ep. III Star Wars

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  • Ozzygen:

    How can you treat the brutality as entertainment.

    Australian media/gov have practically imposed a blackout. Absolutely zero news about the injuries suffered by brutalized protesters. What happened to that Flinders man who got his skull smashed onto the hard floor?

    https://www.rt.com/news/535844-australia-freedom-human-rights-covid/
    So widespread horrific brutalization.

    That’s your democratic dictatorship.

    Even the police chiefs publicly backed the brutality. Those “police investigate police” actions are just for show. How many really get punished?

    https://www.sydneycriminallawyers.com.au/blog/police-brutally-assault-anti-lockdown-protester/

    The Chief Commissioner of Victoria Police, Shane Patton, confirmed that police are currently reviewing the footage and that an internal investigation is underway. At the same time, Mr Patton says his officer were by and large “responding proportionately in an environment that was dynamic, threatening and frightening.”

    “I couldn’t be prouder of them. What they’ve done and the way they’ve conducted themselves,” he stated.

    But like the Law Enforcement Conduct Commission (LECC) in New South Wales, the IBAC is chronically under-resourced and has no power to discipline let alone criminally prosecute police officers – it can only make recommendations, which may or may not be followed by police or the DPP.

    oxygen:
    @ Ozzygen

    PLEASE TELL ME how many protesters were shot dead and how many hospitalized with gunshot wounds.

    Otherwise your “overstatment” above fails of public entertainment.

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  • Ozzygen:

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1441380783676030983

    Australia police brutalize peaceful woman. Damn. Only a deranged person can still support the police.

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  • oxygen:

    @ Ozzygen

    YOUR EXCITED EXAGGERATION of implied gunshot harming of protesters – completely unsubstantiated when invited here – turned this dialogue into YOUR CONSTRUCTION of public entertainment I denounce.

    Ozzygen: How can you treat the brutality as entertainment.

    Nobody get punished for brutality? That is your speculation. You are not there to be in the know. I DONE freelance SOCIAL COMMUNITY WORK. Shouting ignorance (and excited utterance of non-existent

    gunshot) does not make you intelligent.

    Ozzygen: Even the police chiefs publicly backed the brutality. Those “police investigate police” actions are just for show. How many really get punished?

    Shane Patton is exactly right. His officer BY AND LARGE is only RESPONDING PROPORTIONATELY to evolving situation. Note the catchwords – BY AND LARGE qualifying exclusion – That is only one or two pigs(rogue officers) resorting to and engaged in excessive use of disproportionate force.

    THERE WILL BE CONSEQUENCES FOR OFFICIAL MISCONDUCT for this criminal behavior RIGHT IN FRONT OF PUBLIC EYE AND WITNESS in the digital social media. The attorney general will be call to account if it does not get there of criminal prosecution unless it wants Australia to turn into lawlessness like any other dictatorship.

    Ozzygen: At the same time, Mr Patton says his officer were by and large “responding proportionately in an environment that was dynamic, threatening and frightening.”

    CIRCUS BUSKERING AND CARNIVAL JESTERING might be fun for you here but it is false public entertainment.

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  • Ozzygen:

    When reality crashes with one’s imagination, one may attack reality. Stay safe in your cocoon.

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  • Ozzygen:

    Australia is a brutal regime. Oxygen, please skip the rest to preserve your great image of Australia.

    Report by Australian lawyers:
    Police Brutality Escalates Under the Cover of COVID
    26/09/2021 by Sydney Criminal Lawyers
    https://www.sydneycriminallawyers.com.au/blog/police-brutality-escalates-under-the-cover-of-covid/

    Australia watched on in disbelief as the violence on Melbourne streets escalated over the past week, with hoards of heavily armed police officers clashing with members of the public protesting against extended lockdowns and vaccination mandates.

    The mainstream media has focused heavily on violence and offensive acts allegedly committed by protesters, was largely overlooking the many instances of police brutality – whereby officers used excessive force to perform arrests and engaged in conduct amounting to dangerous assaults against members of the public.

    The media’s toeing of the government line continued even in the face of police prohibiting helicopters from the Melbourne skies, in what authorities claimed was a move to prevent protesters from organising but which many saw as a way to reduce publicity of the heavy-handed enforcement approach.

    Police later amended the direction to enable media to cover the incident, while at the same to telling the media they must delay their broadcasts.

    Footage of brutality

    Amongst all the melee, numerous members of the public took it upon themselves to film the many appalling instances of police brutality – including police officers apparently firing pellets indiscriminately into crowds and using extreme force to take down both those who were actively protesting and individuals who had already dispersed.

    The caption to one video which shows a line of heavily armed officers advancing towards and firing at crowds reads, “AUSTRALIA: Australian cops are shooting at people even if there are kids in the crowd. The weapons used here are VKS Pepper Ball firearms. These semi-automatic rifles can fire capsicum rounds or blunt force pellets the size of marbles. These pellets are extremely dangerous.”

    Pictures have been posted to social media which are said to show the injuries sustained as a result of these weapons – weapons which have been presented by the mainstream media as relatively harmless.

    (Image there shows gruesome photos of people shot by the Australian police)

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  • oxygen:

    @ Ozzygen

    I saw the VIOLENT anti-Vietnam war demonstrations on city streets in Australia in the early 70s of the last century. It DID NOT TURNED Australia into a police state. You could, even now registered yourself as a Communist Party of Australia or Green Party and contest any election. There is no sedition law you would find in a brutal (dictatorship) state.

    Even Gough Whitlam was sacked by the Governor General whom he appointed to office and forced to endure the humiliation of a defeated election thereafter. A brutal regime won’t tolerate this Crown intervention of partisan politic squabbles.

    Ozzygen: Australia is a brutal regime. Oxygen, please skip the rest to preserve your great image of Australia

    As for the mainstream media so-called “misinformation” in your weblink, ONLY A FOOL BELIEVES THIS NONSENSE. Mainstream media are like prostitutes, they spin tales, theatric, lies and bluff to get maximal audience reach and advertising dollar.

    Only two decades ago, a 60 seconds clip at prime time (dinner) exposure on television will costs the advertiser a cool $60K. Mainstream media DON’T SELL NEWS – that becomes stale very quickly, THEY SELL SENSATIONALISM – the more controversial the “circus, lies, fictions and dramatisation” the better is to capture and hold the audience attention.

    ONLY AN IDIOT LIKE YOU SWALLOW LOCK STOCK AND BARREL.

    That said, those violent episodes of your weblink IS COMPLETELY TRUE including the incident at Flinders railway station. I have no doubt about it. Neither do I believe that the perpetrator of that excessive force application will go scot-free. There is no “free lunch” of violent behavior of either the dirty pigs (cops) nor the demonstrators.

    NO LAW AUTHORISE CRIMINAL VIOLENCE Down Under.

    If there is one, show me the statutory law enactment. There are even cases of Ministers caught drink driving and fined – that can’t be a brutal dictatorship of your descript.

    As for the helicopter overhead ban, it is smartly read by demonstrators where the “hot action” is needing reinforcement. That is why police ban it but later allow it in delayed broadcast instead of live broadcast. It is stupid censorship because demonstrators can co-ordinate via social media WHICH IS NOT BANNED.

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  • oxygen:

    @ Ozzygen

    HERE IS THE SOLID PROOF that the political elites ARE NOT ABOVE the law in Down Under – forget the lowly-ranked rodents (cops) of your illumination!

    Australia deputy leader fined for not wearing mask in breach of COVID-19 rules

    https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/australia-deputy-leader-fined-not-wearing-mask-breach-covid-19-rules-2021-06-29/

    and here

    Covid 19 coronavirus Delta outbreak: Former Aussie PM Tony Abbott fined for not wearing mask

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/covid-19-coronavirus-delta-outbreak-former-aussie-pm-tony-abbott-fined-for-not-wearing-mask/NKR6EFUXWD4BHN5QKZK7MELT6Y/

    The rule of law in Down Under is UNSPOKEN CLEAR of this – you are or were a political elite and/or powerful political cow, SO WHAT?

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  • oxygen:

    @ Ozzygen

    YOU CAN BE AUSTRALIA’S MOST DECORATED war veteran but NOT beyond the law scrutiny for conduct in even war situation.

    The Age:Australia’s most decorated Afghan veteran, Ben Roberts-Smith, has been referred by the federal police to the Commonwealth Director of Public Prosecutions to face possible charges for alleged war crimes

    Ben Roberts-Smith may face war crimes charges after AFP probe

    https://www.theage.com.au/national/ben-roberts-smith-may-face-war-crimes-charges-after-afp-probe-20200506-p54qbe.html

    The most decorated veteran DENIED ALL THE ALLEGATIONS and sued the media.

    @ Ozzygen, where and from who, do you think the violent cops GET THE PROTECTIVE SHELTER from criminal prosecution in the light of evidences presented in the social media?

    The rodents will all be criminally “hanged” for offences in due course.

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