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Ministers should put their money where the mouth is

There is an interesting discussion going on in the thread “Do you have the capital to take the gamble?“, between our techie and a regular reader.

Our techie, Andrew have opined that since the experts at MTF are so dead sure that there are “no evidence” to suggest that the vaccines can cause serious injuries and even death to the children aged 5-12 years and the “benefits outweigh the risks” in having these children vaccinated.

The expert committee on Covid-19 vaccination has said the benefits of the vaccine outweigh the risks posed to young children. - Straits Times

Then it is only right for the various ministers to lead by example and volunteer their children and grandchildren aged 5 to 12 years to take the vaccination in front of live TV to allay any concerns which parents might have and to prove that they have absolute trust in the vaccines offered by the government.

Agreeing, a regular reader who goes by the moniker “Clowns Of Parleeament” proposes the following candidates, for starters:

CottonSheep’s youngest should be 9 now? Sim Ann’s youngest should be 10 ba. Sun Xueling has 2 daughters who are between 5-8 and not forgetting Tin Peiling’s oldest who should be 6 by now? I believe there’re a few more.

Why did we not hear them volunteering their children for the vaccination since their party keeps telling us it’s for the good of the children, the reader asked.

I agree fully that if these PAPies were to show us their children taking with the mRNA vaccine, many parents would be convinced that the jabs are safe. But no leh. All of them diam diam. Hiding their children now ah?

The reader then directed the following question to the Health Minister:

Hello, health minister! Since you say the vaccine is meant to protect these children, so are you gonna get your colleagues to send their kids for the vaccination first?

The team would also like to add all the eligible children and grandchildren of those in the “expert committee on Covid-19″ to the list, especially Kenneth who has been especially zealous in hoodwinking the masses.

Logically, if these ministers and the members of the expert committee on Covid-19 cannot even back up their own claims that the Covid-19 vaccines are safe and can be administered to one of their own, then why should anyone of us even trust anything they say?

If and until they start vaccinating those on the proposed lists, maybe we should all hold back on the decision to vaccinate our beloved child.

What do you think?

 

P/S: The take up rate for vaccinating the 5-12 children in Israel (the most vaccinated country in the world) is only about 10%.

 

 

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31 Responses to “Ministers should put their money where the mouth is”

  • Some liying through teeth clowns claim “no evidence”, then what do you call this?

    Spike Protein mRNA vaccines Increase Heart Attacks and Negatively effects the Immune ​System – The Herland Report

    “A new study of 566 patients who received either the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines shows that signs of cardiovascular damage soared following the shots. The risk of heart attacks or other severe coronary problems more than doubled months after the vaccines were administered, based on changes in markers of inflammation and other cell damage. Patients had a 1 in 4 risk for severe problems after the vaccines, compared to 1 in 9 before. (“If you like heart problems, you’ll love the Pfizer and Moderna Covid vaccines”, Alex Berenson, Substack)

    https://hannenabintuherland.com/usa/spike-protein-mrna-vaccines-increase-heart-attacks-and-negatively-effects-the-immune-%e2%80%8bsystem/

    I can understand these clowns are paid to lie, else they would be out of favour and out of a job, fair enough.

    But then these clowns would surely know the truth, although they cannot officially say it, right? So you think these clowns would dare to volunteer their children and grandchildren to go in front of the TV and take the vaccines? I don’t think so.

    However, it would become very interesting when the LEEders start ordering them to volunteer their children and grandchildren to go for the jab, to boost confidence when the take up rate is as low as Israel.

    Will they resign or lan lan push their children and grandchildren to go for the jab?

    What do you think they would do?

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  • 3 monkeys:

    Hear no evil. See no evil.
    Speak lots of evil. You die your business.

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  • MarBowling:

    TRE Tech:
    December 24, 2021 at 3:22 am (Quote)
    Some liying through teeth clowns claim “no evidence”, then what do you call this?

    Spike Protein mRNA vaccines Increase Heart Attacks and Negatively effects the Immune ​System – The Herland Report

    Response: Heaven has eyes. The Husband(Mai Hum)and Wifey(Holee Jinx)Tag Team now has finally MET THEIR WATERLOO. They have PAINTED THEMSELVES INTO A TIGHT AND SMALLEST CORNER ON PLANET EARTH! There is 61.24% NO U-TURN FOR THEM NOW! They are WALKING on a very TIGHT and THINNEST ROPE! They CANNOT OFFEND THOSE STAUNCH PAPIGS SUPPORTERS WITH YOUNG CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN BY PUSHING TOO HARD ON THE VACCINATION SCHEME OF THINGS AND ALSO THOSE JOKERS SQUATTING IN THE EXPERT COMMITTEE! BUT THEN GIVEN THE NATURE OF THOSE 61.24%, THE TAG TEAM MAY WIN AT WATERLOO!

    MAN PROPOSES GOD DISPOSES!

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  • Can use fake vaccines:

    Glad if leaders can show, on tv news, their kids and/or grandies taking the shot. Why not? But, be sure it’s not faked. Else, it’s just a wayang, smokescreening all the sheeples.

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  • Vaccine data:

    Wait for more data.
    No need to rush to vaccinate our young children.
    Not in the high risk group.Even if they get Covid,they will survive and build immunity.

    Tech: Maybe get Dr Yang of HTD to check and witness the vaccination? He is also qualified to administer the vaccine also.

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  • PAP d Predator:

    Liars of SG Parliament
    Traitors of SG Parliament
    Fraudsters of SG Parliament
    Deceivers of SG Parliament
    Cheats of SG Parliament
    Corrupters of SG Parliament
    - supported ably by the Judiciary
    - supported firmly by the Policemen

    Who are these disguised clowns by the way?

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  • Spineless Sinkie Syndrome:

    Can use fake vaccines:
    Glad if leaders can show, on tv news, their kids and/or grandies taking the shot. Why not? But, be sure it’s not faked. Else, it’s just a wayang, smokescreening all the sheeples.

    Well, I already said many months ago that the PAPies Elites & their own kids may be given “special” treatment with just saline solution lor. I learnt all Elites get “special” treatment from my NS days when I first learnt of “White Horse” terminology. So much for LKY’s Pledge of “Justice & Equality…” LOL.

    So, even if they appear on live TV to supposedly take their jabs/boosters, you can’t really say unless you physically go there to share half of the vial of that injection that they just took, and ensure that your HALF of your own vial goes into them yes? LOL.

    Some other countries already got whistleblowers saying their political Elites get only saline solution and NOT the (mRNA) Xperimental stuff. Of course, our “world-class” MSM here will NEVER publish such news, so that Sinkies cannot learn of such “Fake News”, yeah? LOL.

    So majority Spineless Sinkies can still be Blur Blur Kings/Queens and continue shouting “PAPies We Luv U Forever !!!” ? LOL.

    https://dailytelegraph.co.nz/covid-19/crisis-in-slovenia-whistleblower-nurse-says-politicians-receive-saline-instead-of-mrna-jab/

    Tech: When push comes to shove, I won’t be surprise if they use Sinovac instead, it is much safer. lol

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  • xoxo:

    To tell the truth; the minister$ put their mouth$ where the MONEY is???

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  • TKL missing:

    ”This Chinese city found a Covid cluster. All 13 million residents are now under lockdown…On Tuesday, the central Chinese city of Xi’an recorded 52 new Covid-19 cases. By Wednesday, authorities had imposed strict lockdown measures on its estimated 13 million residents.”’
    https://edition.cnn.com/2021/12/23/china/xian-china-covid-lockdown-intl-hnk/index.html
    Another very clear statement form TKL motherland—their very very very safe vaccine DOES NOT work.
    You want to be very safe, may have to migrate to Venus.
    52 cases and 13 million go into hard lockdown.
    What type of life does a commielander leads?
    Guess not much say in anything in the most democratic country in the world.

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  • Harder Truths:

    More data? Of course. See..see…see.. how people die from ‘vaccine’?
    We have to raise a new Syringe Cenotaph for ‘Our Glorious Vaccine Dead’.

    Fauci and Biden are Pathological Liars

    Both are alleging without providing a speck of evidence that 97% of Covid cases/hospitalizations/deaths are the unvaccinated. This is a total lie.

    Information from every country shows that it is the vaccinated who are suffering injuries and death.

    The “Omicron variant” is being used to create a new wave of public fear and government control over civil liberties and citizens’ bodies–essentially rape with a needle–despite the known fact that the variant is rarely harmful. Hospitals are falsely reported to be full of Omicron patients. The presstitute media stresses that the more or less harmless variant is highly contagious, and are creating fear out of the ease of catching it. People are urged to protect themselves by taking the jab even though it is a known fact that the Omicron variant is immune to the “vaccine.”

    Acquaint yourself with the facts

    In Scotland for August to November 2021 over 85% of deaths were in the vaccinated. Boosters are merely boosting COVID infections. Some 40,000 deaths have occurred in the USA, UK and EU following vaccination but Omicron is mild. The UK Government has manipulated the data to blame the unvaccinated but the vaccinated are at greatest risk.

    It was clear from the first cases in South Africa and now in the UK and EU that the new Omicron variant of the coronavirus results in mild disease and very few deaths [not from Covid but] “with COVID”. Indeed South African experts have advised stopping stop-and -trace and quarantining because most of the infected have no symptoms.

    More evidence of the failure of vaccines in the face of new infections comes from the USA where one of the largest US outbreaks of the new Omicron variant to date is believed to have occurred at Cornell University in Ithaca, New York, where almost all 930 cases over the past week are believed to be of the variant

    All of the confirmed Omicron cases in the Cornell University case are among people who are fully vaccinated, and some of them are in people who’ve also had the booster.

    The booster is of course more of the same in the hope that the third dose will do what the first two doses were supposed to do! And the new variant, “omicron”?

    Most of the Omicron cases in the United States have been among the vaccinated, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said in an update on Friday 10/12/21. Most patients have experienced mild symptoms.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/boosters-boost-infections-omicron-mild-least-vaccinated-countries-fewer-deaths-vaccinated-at-greatest-risk/5765128

    Source : https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2021/12/22/fauci-and-biden-are-pathological-liars/

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  • Harder Truths:

    REMEMBER TO VACCINATE THE CHICKEN AND FISH AND VEGETABLES AND MARS BAR.
    IF THEY DON’T GET YOU ONE WAY THEY WILL GET YOU BY ANOTHER!!!

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  • John Doe:

    Seems that the SG Govt compulsion of SG males serving NS is to prepare to PROTECT AND DEFEND Millionaire POLITICAL LIARS in SG.

    What else is there TO PROTECT SG from? Against whom?

    Enemies of SG are lurking in SG are more likely the ones SG needs to ‘protect’ – what else is THERE (the sovereignty of SG?) to talk about to protect by NS men, when LOCAL leaders ARE ULTRA HYPOCRITES.

    I strongly suggest have a mutiny against NS if one were to protect Political Liars.

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  • Do u mean they lie:

    Since indranee has no children, she should take these ministers to task like she did with her compatriot from WP n screwed them like what she did to her. WP should contact Tech for the info n call for a ommittee of privilege committee on their lies, perhap taking opportunity to grope in the Jinx $25 m Court liars n the AGC for not bringing damning charges else evidence of CoI charges r true n Indianee should be damned with lefal lie of career success garbage. It is time also for Tommy to show his democracy claim else eternally shut his gap n learn from commo inclined Income presidentoal cand insurance agent.

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  • @TKL missing

    That’s how zero-C19 policy works. The people in China DO NOT want to live with the virus BS like Sinkieland, so they are all willing to endure some inconvenience so that they need not worry about being bitten by the C19 or have to wear mask daily.

    Besides, unlike the BS implemented in Sinkies, the authorities protect and take very good care of those under lock down. Additionally the unvax are not discriminated against in any way and the vaccines even if taken, are much much safer than the mRNA ones used in Sinkieland.

    Those people may have missed this Christmas, but they can look forward to enjoying the long CNY with their entire family INTACT, no member missing.

    With the C19 rampaging through Sinkieland now, every day of being alive is a blessing, especially for those vaxed, with threats of serious injuries and death lurking around every corner from the vaccine and C19 itself. In case you are not aware, people who are vaxed are dropping like flies all around the world, mostly from heart failure. Their hearts simply gave up and stop working, thanks to the toxic spike protein generated by the mRNA vaccines.

    If I were you, I would spend more time worrying for Sinkies than the relatively very much safer residents in China.

    Besides, the current cluster in Xi’an is Omicron, a very mild virus, BUT even then, the people in China just don’t want to live with ANY C19, hence the lockdown is needed.

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    @ If I were you, I would spend more time worrying for Sinkies than the relatively very much safer residents in China.

    Okay. Quite a few like to compare sg quoting China. Therefore its fair in the reverse as well.

    Xi An there 2 diseases. 1 covid 2 dont know whats it call in english ( spread by rats ).

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  • Good example:

    Don’t worry lah.
    Our leader always set good example.Super strong faith in the Vaccine.
    Their Children or grand children will be the first guinea pig.
    You follow Ok ?

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  • Trust only myself:

    Israel is only 10% but the liars here want to have 90% for children to tell the world they are the best……….if not how to justify earning their millions………

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  • We love Lockdown:

    @Tech-”-BUT even then, the people in China just don’t want to live with ANY C19, hence the lockdown is needed.”
    So I guess the people in the most democratic country in the world voted for lockdown.
    They probably voted for the very very very safe vaccine, which has no real purpose since they love to be lockdown.
    ..’Three doses of Sinovac’s CoronaVac COVID-19 vaccine do not produce adequate levels of antibodies to fight the Omicron variant of the coronavirus, researchers from Hong Kong said in a statement….’The latest study was conducted by researchers from the University of Hong Kong and the Chinese University of Hong Kong, ‘
    https://www.reuters.com/world/china/chinas-sinovac-covid-19-booster-weaker-against-omicron-hong-kong-study-2021-12-23/
    Yes from the Chinese themselves…the very very safe vaccines used on 1.19 billion Chinese citizens are useless.
    The research is from Universities in HK, part of China.
    Action always speak louder than words.
    They lockdown BECAUSE they know their vaccines do not work!
    Rest of thinking mankind take vaccine to avoid hard lockdown.
    Stop defending the undefensible.

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  • @We love Lockdown

    Yes, it is the people’s choice to live ZERO C19, without having to constantly wake up daily worrying about losing someone dear to the C19 virus, and I agree with them. As for the vaccines, the authorities have never claimed (unlike the shameless clowns at MTF) that the Sino is 100% effective against ANY variant of the C19 virus, their play has been that it HELPS the body to build up its own immune system to fend off the C19. The way the Sino works is totally different from the mRNA ones, so there’s no comparison as far as their functions are concerned.

    While vaccination is encouraged in China, it is not vigorously shoved down the throats of those who have the option of taking it or not. China is not obsessed with vaccination, they are more into prevention and eradication, hence the ZERO C19 policy. Logic, therefore dictates that if there is no C19 virus in China, then vaccinated or not would make any difference, would it?

    I honestly fail to see why would anyone with half a thinking brain want to inject themselves with a so-called vaccine that would NOT prevent infection, MAY offer some protection BUT is GUARANTEED to cause the heart and organs to fail eventually and drop dead?

    Be that as it may, one fact that is indisputable is that those unvaccinated will MAYBE die if they contracted the C19, BUT they would NOT be dropping dead with heart failure caused by the mRNA vaccines.

    The same cannot be said for those who are vaccinated with the mRNA vaccines, they can MAYBE ALSO die from a C19 infection and if they don’t then they can ALSO die of heart or organ failure, so the chances of them dying are in fact, higher than those who are unvaccinated.

    An added advantage of being unvaccinated at this moment in time would be that should eventually a miracle vaccine/drug be available, the unvaccinated STILL HAVE A CHOICE to take them, while those already vaccinated would by then already have failing heart and organs, so much so that MAYBE these new vaccine/drugs won’t work on them anymore.

    In any case, whatever the decision is, it’s our own personal choice and we will have to live with that, for better or worse. No one owes anyone any explanation as to why they choose to take or reject vaccination.

    No need therefore, to mud-sling each other, time will be the ultimate judge.

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    Wow, China 空軍上將劉亞洲 and his brother kena arrested.

    Tech: Sure or not, 2 Generals arrested? For what?

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  • Harder Truths:

    PAP mandate strong:

    Xi An there 2 diseases. 1 covid 2 dont know whats it call in english ( spread by rats ).

    Bubonic Plague – the virus is carried by rats. This disease wiped out half of Europe in the Middle Ages.

    I used to rent a flat in Jurong in the 1980′s. You will not believe the heaps of rubbish piled up and hidden in the middle of the HDB blocks hidden from passers -by. One night I was returning from work and saw scores of rats all over the rubbish.

    No doubt Bubonic Plague is the next disease on the list for $G’s karma-ridden population.

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  • Harder Truths:

    John Doe: Seems that the SG Govt compulsion of SG males serving NS is to prepare to PROTECT AND DEFEND Millionaire POLITICAL LIARS in SG.

    What else is there TO PROTECT SG from? Against

    Guinea Pigs and Piglets are meant to suffer and die. They are necessary only to be used, disused, misused and abused by the Regime. Otherwise, tell me, what use are $G-born? They have been replaced everywhere else except as NS men and Guinea Pigs/Piglets.

    Whether $G-born survive or not is of no consequence to the Regime. They are expedient and replaceable.

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  • Of Course:

    @Tech
    …’Yes, it is the people’s choice to live ZERO C19, …’
    Yes 100% agree with you.
    1.19 billion Chinese choose to be vaccinated and be hard-lockdown.
    They have the choice because they live in the most democratic country in the world….TKL is sure of that.
    Besides, Google, Twitter, Instagram, Snapchat, Yahoo, SLACK and Youtube are all blocked in China.
    So they are very well informed by CCP state run media.
    1.19 billion free citizens that are more well-informed than the NKoreans made a very smart choice.
    NKorea is of course the second most democratic country in the world–we all know that.
    I learn so much reading posts on TRE; especially TKL’s.

    Tech: The system in China is not perfect, but their dealing with C19 may be the most effective. I dare say NO political system in the world is perfect, would you agree??

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  • Billy ma:

    Hope someone records every audio & video that these PAP dudes talk like only they what is truth about this virus for future accountability.

    PAP has presumed what they agreed about the virus is all true & everyone else is fake.

    Keep records records of every news conference & other occasions on how PAP dudes talk like they know everything.

    Catch them with pants down.

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  • With the advance and accessibility of the internet, it is no longer just what the MTF says when it comes to the facts.

    One simple search and you will be able to catch the clowns at MTF with a long nose liao.

    Be informed but not hoodwinked.

    AGAIN, I honestly fail to see why would anyone with half a thinking brain want to inject themselves with a so-called vaccine that would NOT prevent infection, MAY offer some protection BUT is GUARANTEED to cause the heart and organs to fail eventually and drop dead?

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  • Sino don't work:

    @tech..’Sino is 100% effective against ANY variant of the C19 virus, their play has been that it HELPS the body to build up its own immune system to fend off the C19. The way the Sino works is totally different from the mRNA ones, so there’s no comparison as far as their functions are concerned.’
    ”’China’s Sinopharm seeks to develop its own mRNA Covid vaccine”’
    https://www.ft.com/content/91cbc7ef-808d-448a-a832-2384f045dc35''
    ”’1.4 billion doses later, China is realizing it may need mRNA COVID vaccines”
    https://fortune.com/2021/07/16/china-mrna-vaccine-pfizer-biontech-fosun-doses/
    ”Chinese Firm Buys Canada mRNA Vaccine Tech in $500 Million Deal”
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-09-13/chinese-firm-buys-canada-mrna-vaccine-tech-in-500-million-deal
    Very contrary to what Tech posted, China is racing to catch up on ‘poisonous’ mRNA technology.
    They know factually that Sino vax do not work—trying to buy up western developed mRNA tech.
    Meanwhile total lockdown; to buy time.
    Obvious to any rational person.
    China the copycat, as usual.
    Embarrassing!

    Tech: Don’t put words in my mouth and if you want to quote, quote the entire statement in which I said “China NEVER CLAIMS that Sino is 100% effective against ANY variant of the C19 virus”. If you try that trick again on me, I would not hesitate to ban you and delete all your comments.

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  • Brainwashed:

    That’s very underhanded. It follows what western media and other organizations have been doing.
    Misquote. Mistranslate. Accuse with fake evidence. The wilder the more believable.

    Western mass media consumers are as propagandized as North Koreans
    https://www.rt.com/op-ed/544198-maturity-propaganda-china-media/

    Western mass media consumers are no less propagandized than North Koreans or any of the other nations we’re told to pity because their government indoctrinates them with state media, in fact they are arguably more propagandized, which is why Noam Chomsky said that any dictator would admire the uniformity and obedience of the US media. The way the public is manipulated into consenting to all the agendas of the powerful without even knowing that they are being propagandized has arguably been the most astonishing feat of social engineering anywhere in the world.

    This journalist from Australia is RIGHT !

    Sino don't work: @tech..’Sino is 100% effective against ANY variant of the C19 virus, their play has been that it HELPS the body to build up its own immune system to fend off the C19. The way the Sino

    Tech: Don’t put words in my mouth and if you want to quote, quote the entire statement in which I said “China NEVER CLAIMS that Sino is 100% effective against ANY variant of the C19 virus”.

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  • China Lover:

    @Sino don’t work:
    1.”’China’s Sinopharm seeks to develop its own mRNA Covid vaccine”’
    2.”’1.4 billion doses later, China is realizing it may need mRNA COVID vaccines”
    3.”Chinese Firm Buys Canada mRNA Vaccine Tech in $500 Million Deal”
    ”Hopes Are Rising for a Homegrown mRNA Vaccine in China
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-11-11/hopes-are-rising-for-a-homegrown-mrna-vaccine-in-china
    ‘China’s mRNA Covid-19 vaccine-maker expects efficacy data by year end
    https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/chinas-mrna-covid-19-vaccine-maker-expects-efficacy-data-by-year-end
    Google ‘China and mRNA ‘ and you will realise that China is searching desperately for the so-called poison mRNA.
    And spending billions.
    Fellow China lovers here–maybe we should ask our Dear Leader Xi why is he trying to poison us China lovers

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  • Anonymous incognito:

    Young kids unless they have vulnerabilities like cancer, etc should get it after consulting their carevprividers. For the rest nope. Go outside and play. At least Singspore has no lack of sunlight and vitamin D

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  • Dont be conned by PAP:

    Why put their own children at risk!
    They want power to enrich themselves and cronies.
    Their property investments increase by 10% this year, maybe even more for landed properties.
    They will buy properties for their children.
    The rich are buying the second, third, fourth property … the absd will only help the rich to accumulate …
    That is why the government reduces land sale, not increase.
    Singapore will import more foreign talents, fake and real, to make multi property owners even richer.
    Dont trust Lawrence Wong. Look at his track record on the energy market, property market, Covid 19 management.
    He will hurt us more, just see his Budget in Feb.

    Hit PAP hard where it hurts the most.
    Dont vote for them

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  • Dont trust PAP:

    They put money where there are profits for themselves. Losses taxpayers bear.
    Be bootlicker to the PM like Lawrence Wong, just like Mah Boh Tan to the LKY who praised him to heaven.

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