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Cannot swallow everything that is being presented

When you are presented with what is supposed to be news, no matter where the source may be from, you just cannot swallow everything that is being presented. This is especially so if the issue is a serious one which would have a bearing on your life, like the upcoming Presidential Election.

Be very careful if the source of the news is the state funded propaganda machine. You must make it a practice to pause and analyse.

My take is, when George Goh threw his hat into the ring as the first contender against Tharman who is the PAP’s favoured candidate, the powers that be knew from day 1 that George would not qualify.

But they would want to stage a contest like the first one when they fielded Auditor General Chua Kim Yeow, to take on Ong Teng Chong.

Many Singaporeans were of the opinion that Chua had in fact won the election.

Anyway, this time round they persuaded someone who used to work under Tharman to make doubly sure that their favoured candidate would win hands down.

In came Ng Kok Song, who right from the beginning exposed himself as a sparring partner to give legitimacy to “President Tharman”, in accordance with the script.

But of course, Singaporeans were not fooled as they had wanted a real contest and, not knowing that George would not qualify, they put their hopes on him.

Fortunately Tan Kin Lian came into the picture with the foresight that Geoge might not measure up to the strict criteria, would not qualify and therefore would result in a sham contest.

Kin Lian’s entry has somewhat put a spanner in the works. They couldn’t find reasons to disqualify him.

So the ultimate truth is, the real contest is actualy between Tharman and Tan Kin Lian.

My call to all voters is not to waste your vote on the “sparring partner”.

Go for TAN KIN LIAN for the simple reason that with Tharman everything would remain the same and the real objective of having an elected president cannot be fulfilled.

Logic tells you that ownself check onself will lead to abuse. And Singapore cannot afford such a situation going forward.

 

* Facebook post by Mohamed Jufrie Bin Mahmood.

 

 

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29 Responses to “Cannot swallow everything that is being presented”

  • Lose Deposit:

    Someone is going to lose his deposit. Every voter will choose left or right.

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  • Dalai Says "Read My Lips, boy":

    One would have to have logical discussions with the opposition but it is futile, especially now. They choose to be “right” in their own minds and in their own political circles. They have no use for logic or facts and that is never going to change. Well now I know what becomes of those bored, cynical, obtuse students in my classes (a minority, certainly, but an undeniable presence): they go on to become bored, cynical, obtuse posters in forums like this one. The only real difference is that they have become a little older and even more certain that their mindless observations are worth stating.

    One big sperm receptacle on their shoulders instead of two small ones between their legs.

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  • 2Daft2Live:

    Lose Deposit:
    Someone is going to lose his deposit. Every voter will choose left or right.

    Agreed, if I am NKS, I will just throw in my hat. Nothing gain as the original strategy had been rendered void with TKL participation. If lose deposit, he will only invite further humiliation. At this age, it’s not about face, it’s about peace of mind.

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  • @2Daft2Liv

    I respectfully disagree and I think Ng should stay in the race, because the party has actually inadvertently checkmate themselves by planting Ng to give the impression of an actual race, when all along they had intended to disqualify George regardless.

    I believe with Ng in the race, Tan will stand a higher chance because the pro-establishment votes that should have ALL gone to Tharman will now be split between Ng and Tharman. Only an idiot will believe that Ng is independent, and Tan isn’t exactly a charismatic person like Tan Cheng Bock who may be able to woe some pro-establishment votes over to his side.

    With these votes NEVER EVER going to Tan, but now shared between Tharman and Ng, Tan has nothing to lose, everything to gain.

    Of course there will be a risk of Ng stealing some votes from Tan’s base, who may believe the hoodwink that Ng is an “independent”, but I doubt there would be many.

    What do you think?

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  • Harder Truths:

    Three blind mice
    Three blind mice

    See how they run
    Lying is so much fun

    They all run after the Eunuch’s life
    And have their d*cks cut with a POFMA knife.
    You never can see such a useless fight
    Between these three blind mice

    Three blind mice
    Three blind mice

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  • 2Daft2Live:

    @TRE Tech:

    Hmmm…..if you are a pro-MIW supporter then NKS will never get your vote. Obedience is ingrained in the hardcore group. If their masters ask them to wag their tails….they wag until the tails fly off. The MIW understood this and only intend for NKS to split the Chinese votes….that’s my analysis. Of course, the majority will still go to TKL…whether that’s enough for him to win, I don’t know. But with the small percentage NKS will get, he really might embarrass himself at this age….just my thoughts, who knows.

    Tech: You may be correct, but who knows till we have reached THE day? Anyway, I won’t mind telling you that at this CURRENT stage, I would vote for NG who is the least possible person to ever win the PE. Reason being Tharman is a party man, but I have not liked a single thing that Tan has done or said, I have also corresponded with Tan briefly and he comes across as someone who is not willing to listen. So instead of spoiling my vote, I would vote for Ng since he is the most harmless. lol

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  • Dalai Says "Song" With Me, boy:

    Sweet Dreams (Dafts Are Made of This)
    Song by Eurythmics

    Some of them want to use you
    Some of them want to get used by you
    Some of them want to abuse you
    Some of them want to be abused
    Sweet dreams are made of this
    Who am I to disagree?

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  • Smart Nation:

    Given the recent scandals inside the PAP, public sentiments may work in TKL’s favor. Going by the results of last GE, if 40% votes for TKL (overly optimistic), 50% for Tharman and 10% for NKS, would TKL able to swing over 10% of would-be Tharman voters to win the race? Keep in mind also that since the last GE, PAP has added more new citizens which is to their advantage. TKL will need TCB’s support by promising him a place in the CPA if he is elected. What to you think?

    Tech: You are jumping the gun. Do you honestly believe TCB would even bother with a seat on the CPA? I think talking about the who and who should be on the CPA is a complete waste of time.

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  • VoteTKL:

    Tharman is more suited to be PM. He should rejoin PAP and take over from the current PM who is useless.

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  • Hobson's choice:

    A few number of people especially some from political parties are voicing their support for their respective candidates. Well, it’s good and not wrong to support someone they idolise. But is it for the right reason?

    I am not a fan of the Government, however, this is not a General Election to select political parties. An elected President is apolitical and will not be able to do much changes for the people, no matter how much he promises the sky. People who hope that the President can help them oppose the Government policies and make their life better need to see the reality. This can only be done by being elected into Parliament.

    In my own view, the President should be well-mannered, presentable, able to speak diligently, able to represent Singapore and it’s people on the world stage, host foreign dignitaries, and not least, unifying the people through common interest, eg, sports, celebrations, emergencies, in happiness and in sadness.

    If some people thinks that the President can be there just to play local politics, to lower the cost of living, lower the HDB price, lower the price of coffee, remove the COE system, etc, then they are in the wrong place.

    So, if I don’t have much choices because the PEC criteria are so stringent that good people cannot qualify (and I am referring to a lot of other people) , I will either void my vote or maybe, just maybe, choose the one that is more presentable so at least his face is not so deplorable in photos being hanged across the country.

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  • We are watching:

    A seat on the CPA is not a big deal for TCB.
    On the other hand, presenting a solid team will be a great help for TKL, and a great help for Singaporeans.

    The question is whether TCB is happy to have his old comrade PAP President.

    Smart Nation:
    Given the recent scandals inside the PAP, public sentiments may work in TKL’s favor. Going by the results of last GE, if 40% votes for TKL (overly optimistic), 50% for Tharman and 10% for NKS, would TKL able to swing over 10% of would-be Tharman voters to win the race? Keep in mind also that since the last GE, PAP has added more new citizens which is to their advantage. TKL will need TCB’s support by promising him a place in the CPA if he is elected. What to you think?

    Tech: You are jumping the gun. Do you honestly believe TCB would even bother with a seat on the CPA? I think talking about the who and who should be on the CPA is a complete waste of time.

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  • TKL:

    Actually the more TKL talks ,the less people will vote for him.
    He should learn what not to talk at this time….no need to speak it all at this stage when his main focus should be to maximise his chance to win the race.

    By the way, NKS seem to get better by the day.
    He speaks well and show a clear mind inspite of his age. His wife will be an asset to his Presidency.

    He may turn out to be the better EP that Singapore need.

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  • Western democracies:

    You illustrate the fault of western democracies. People are forced to elect their leaders based on a few speeches or posts.

    Since a President gets $10 millions over 6 years, every vote winning election speech must be worth a million.

    TKL:
    Actually the more TKL talks ,the less people will vote for him.
    He should learn what not to talk at this time….no need to speak it all at this stage when his main focus should be to maximise his chance to win the race.

    By the way, NKS seem to get better by the day.
    He speaks well and show a clear mind inspite of his age. His wife will be an asset to his Presidency.

    He may turn out to be the better EP that Singapore need.

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  • Dalai Says "Read My Lips":

    Hobson's choice:
    If some people thinks that the President can be there just to play local politics, to lower the cost of living, lower the HDB price, lower the price of coffee, remove the COE system, etc, then they are in the wrong place.

    So, if I don’t have much choices because the PEC criteria are so stringent that good people cannot qualify (and I am referring to a lot of other people) , I will either void my vote or maybe, just maybe, choose the one that is more presentable so at least his face is not so deplorable in photos being hanged across the country.

    Terrific writing! Not a big fan of Government either, but I do think that the alternatives here are choosing between free choice to maximize your preferences rationally versus communally guided individual freedom. Neither system is very helpful. Abstracts aside, yes, choices are complex. My reaction, in general, was to apply specific ideas and to specific individuals, considering that all of our thoughts and language are bound up in collective understandings, and all our individual actions underpinned by a social framework. But I certainly don’t see much in the way of “free will” either; even the determination to “act rationally” in any given situation comes from an unconscious, feeling-based place. So in all good conscience; I think I’ll void my vote and thereof to Starbucks for my regular ‘Oat CocoMac ExpressoShot’ ;D

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  • Idiots:

    Some comments are idiotic. void lah. pretty face lah. f**king idiots.

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  • opposition dude:

    Even if Ng wins it won’t make any difference to PAP. If he is uncooperative during his term as president they will find ways and means to get rid of him it’s as simple as that. They had that issue when one of their own, Mr Ong, went against them and they definitely do not wish to go down that road again.

    Whether Ng works with or against them remains to be seen. People are saying he is also one of them because he was from GIC but somehow Tan is anti PAP for whatever silly reason.

    I don’t know about you but isn’t NTUC part of PAP too? Or does NTUC seem less “dangerous” compared to GIC because it doesn’t manage Singaporeans’ $$$ but just runs supermarkets all over the island? And let us not also forget that Tan was PAP branch secretary hor. So why no one say Tan is also a puppet but can say he is the anti PAP? Makes no sense what.

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  • President Power:

    In reality, unless there is change, the President power is quite limited as it is.
    All will not going to make much difference between them.
    However it always good to have a smart President with a good EQ and can react well with people. Better ,one with a sense of humour and can stall tall with foreign Countries.
    On that count, surprisingly the oldest one seem to be a better choice.

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  • Light The Way:

    “Dog and pony show” is a colloquial term which has come to mean a highly promoted, often over-staged performance, presentation, or event designed to sway or convince opinion for political, or less often, commercial ends.

    In simple terms, it serves to protect the PAP.

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  • Light The Way:

    In Greek mythology, Cerberus, often referred to as the hound of Hades, is a multi-headed puppy that guards the gates of the Underworld to prevent the dead from leaving. He was the offspring of the monsters Echidna and Typhon, and was usually described as having three heads, a serpent for a tail, and snakes protruding from multiple parts of his body.

    However, Singaporeans need not worry because you are always welcome to pack up your bags and leave.

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  • Absurdity:

    The criteria only looks stringent but is not as stringent as you think. They used the criteria of managing 500m. They skipped the criteria of money lost. If they had included this criteria and you have that candidate who cannot answer for 30b loss, he won’t even qualify.

    Hobson's choice:
    A few number of people especially some from political parties are voicing their support for their respective candidates. Well, it’s good and not wrong to support someone they idolise. But is it for the right reason?

    I am not a fan of the Government, however, this is not a General Election to select political parties. An elected President is apolitical and will not be able to do much changes for the people, no matter how much he promises the sky. People who hope that the President can help them oppose the Government policies and make their life better need to see the reality. This can only be done by being elected into Parliament.

    In my own view, the President should be well-mannered, presentable, able to speak diligently, able to represent Singapore and it’s people on the world stage, host foreign dignitaries, and not least, unifying the people through common interest, eg, sports, celebrations, emergencies, in happiness and in sadness.

    If some people thinks that the President can be there just to play local politics, to lower the cost of living, lower the HDB price, lower the price of coffee, remove the COE system, etc, then they are in the wrong place.

    So, if I don’t have much choices because the PEC criteria are so stringent that good people cannot qualify (and I am referring to a lot of other people) , I will either void my vote or maybe, just maybe, choose the one that is more presentable so at least his face is not so deplorable in photos being hanged across the country.

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  • Smart Nation:

    @TRE:
    It’s fine if TCB is not interested to seat on the CPA but TKL can do with his support. It may be a good idea for the two to have a dialogue.

    Tech: I agree with you, but knowing what I know from someone very very very reliable, I say go buy TOTO better. lol

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  • pasar malam ah soh:

    @Dalai Says ” Read My Lips”

    Wow,why are you complaining so much when you can go drink high class kopi at Starbucks?
    So many of us dare not step into Starbucks.
    Only at most Yakun.
    So good life you have.
    Be satisfied.

    I vote TKL because the other two too close to Ah Loong.
    No need so atas lah.

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  • Dalai Says "Read My Lips":

    pasar malam ah soh:
    @Dalai Says ” Read My Lips”

    Wow,why are you complaining so much when you can go drink high class kopi at Starbucks?
    So many of us dare not step into Starbucks.
    Only at most Yakun.
    So good life you have.
    Be satisfied.

    I vote TKL because the other two too close to Ah Loong.
    No need so atas lah.

    @pasar malam ah soh

    MHO. Ah Loong likely to take the advice of those close to him.
    Fyi: I wasn’t allowed entry to malls for past 3 years. This Starbucks allowed me *takeaways*

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  • Tharman's supporter:

    Idiots:
    Some comments are idiotic. void lah. pretty face lah. f**king idiots.

    @Idiots
    You developmentally disable? IQ below 30? or suffering from Down Syndrome?

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  • Vet:

    Idiots:
    Some comments are idiotic. void lah. pretty face lah. f**king idiots.

    This mad d0g needs to be put to sleep.

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  • Dark horse NKS:

    Actually the wind favour TKL but he talk too much and don’t listen(Typical of Smart people).

    TS is the most qualified but too closed to the “Party” for most people comfort.

    Maybe NKS will make a better President for most people.

    Anyway choosing EP and not PM….EP Power limited.

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  • true blue singaporean:

    The PEC seems lazy. It didn’t look at social media posts of candidates? Members of PEC need to be dismissed – such laziness, just go by the book and documents submitted and decide! even company HR personnel are mote thorough! anyway, if they had done their work diligently, they should have rejected TKL for his weird posts on pretty girls, and his anti-democracy stand and support for China Communist Party and its dictatorial system.

    Tech: For someone that is VERY NEW to TRE, you really do understand TKL very well and have a lot of negative things to say about him, I am so impressed! Please encourage yoor other friends and colleagues to do the same and contribute to TRE’s eyeball count. Thank you.

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  • true blue singaporean:

    Tech: For someone that is VERY NEW to TRE, you really do understand TKL very well and have a lot of negative things to say about him, I am so impressed! Please encourage yoor other friends and colleagues to do the same and contribute to TRE’s eyeball count

    He he, i am not new to TRE, but just new to commenting. I appreciate TRE as a good forum for absolutely open, uncensored discussion though I may disagree on some (many) points of views. but all views must be allowed. strong believer of democracy and democracy means all can say, all can vote, and whoever gets the most votes must be winner.

    Tech: Thank you for admitting that you have been ‘lurking’ on TRE, we have no issue with that. As I have been saying, TRE has lots of eyeballs (visitors) but most choose not to comment. We have said many times that TRE welcome people from left, right, up, down and center camp to express their opinions as long as it is inline with our AUP. Please make yourself at home.

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  • True:

    Real fight is bet tharman n tkl,ngks is just small template of tharman,now tharman say spore ready for non Chinese pm,
    Makes me sick,during his yrs tharman has not said or done anything for us,let us be wise,
    Tharman is a suave fellow good in finance but will not lift a finger if it is not to his interest to do so
    At best he is a suave political survivor

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