People’s Voice’s Official Statement On The Israeli-Palestinian Conflict
It goes without saying that People's Voice (PV) supports a 2 State solution, which is absolutely necessary in order to bring about a genuine long-lasting peace in the Middle East.
The Palestinians must have their own State.
Many American Presidents saw the need for a two state solution. However, their endeavours to bring it about was always stymied by the powerful Jewish lobby who would not countenance a homeland for the Palestinians, who have been a displaced people ever since the creation of Israel in 1948.
PV condemns the rejection by Israel and the United States of the recent United Nations resolution for a ceasefire in Gaza. Such a move only plays into the hands of Hamas. There is no alternative to a two state solution if extremism is to be extinguished in the Middle-East.
Whilst we recognise the Israeli right to self-defence, the use of overwhelming force in recent weeks has been grossly disproportionate and has brought about unjustified suffering to the Palestinian people in Gaza.
We believe that the entire world has a responsibility to contain this violence.
Otherwise,any conflagration could lead to World War 3. The World stumbled into World War 1 because it neglected to contain a local incident and in that regard the current conflict has an eerie similarity to how that World War started. Other regional powers such as Iran and Turkey will not be able to turn a blind eye to what is happening in Gaza.
Lim Tean
Secretary-General
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Palestinians and the Jews have been arch enemies since time immemorial. While the Palestinians may be more open to a 2 states, the Jews cannot and will not accept a subhuman to be near them, so it is definitely a no go. The Jews have this superiority complex that make them feel they are above all human beings, because they are supposedly God’s people. It is not far fetch to say they are racist.
The only way this conflict will ever end, is that either the Jews or Palestinians in Middle-East are completely wiped out.
Only one can survive and Israel appears to be working towards that goal, slaughtering the Palestinians under its bull of a shit concocted excuse, aided and abetted by the warmongering US of A.
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“It goes without saying that People’s Voice (PV) supports a 2 State solution,”
The main question is what is the point of giving them a state when Hamas still controlling the state? Israel is right that one cannot have a neighbouring state that is a terrorist state. The society and culture is what a government want them to be. If government is run by terrorist the whole state is not different been a terrorist.
It more attuned that given past history, the state is no different from terrorist. Ask yourself what is the likelihood that the state will be not be terrorist state under hama control? your guess is as good as mine.
Tech: You have a shallow understanding of “terrorist”, what are the criteria to be labelled as a “terrorist”, because the warmongering US/UK said so, it must be so? Turkey labelled Israel as a terrorist too, so it must be so, am I correct?
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Let lawyer here teach you. Call them ‘freedom fighters’ lah. lol
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Isaiah 5:20
Woe (judgment is coming) to those who call evil good, and good evil;
Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness;
Who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!
DON’T SAY I DIDN’T WARN YOU!
Tech: Wah scarry lor, but paiseh hor, me non-believer, only believe in myself. Whatever God can go relax one corner. lol
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I very much doubt the 2 state thing will work simply because both sides hate each other to the core to even sit down and talk about it. Even if by some miracle it’s agreed upon, who is to say in future Hamas or some other kee siao organisation never take their medication regularly suddenly decide that they want all Israelis out yet again?
While the casualties mount and aid is being sent we all know this isn’t enough. All love condemning wars whenever it starts but who is really stopping it?
There can never be peace as long as hate festers in humans.
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@”There is no alternative to a two state solution if extremism is to be extinguished in the Middle-East.”
Response: don’t expect a long-lasting peace, it’s rather dreamlike and surreal.
@”We believe that the entire world has a responsibility to contain this violence.”
Response: erase all the country names on the map, and just name it as ‘pureland'(净土) for living things.
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@Master N Slave Got Problem
In case you haven’t noticed, ALL nations that are willing to give head to the US are always the good guys. An example of one such nation is the UK, which I believe gives excellent fellatio to Biden.
ANY group or nation that opposes the US and refuses to be fcuked is called a “terrorist”.
If I remember correctly, it was either Gandhi or Nelson Mandella was also called a “terrorist”.
Nowadays, the term “terrorist” is simply a term coined by the US on their enemy so that they can “legitimately” kill and destroy them.
This has been their modus operandi for years!
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I waited for 3 days to see any other oppies echoed with Lim Tean.
Response is obvious.
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The two state solution has been offered many times in the past…
Who actually reject it ?
Need to go back into history and asked why never succeed.
Both side need to accept it willingly and sincerely .
How to when one want to wipe the other out of the world ?
No peace only WAR….with present leaders.
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Humans use advanced technology to kill each other in wars,be it military or economic.
This is intelligence without wisdom.
All the talking is useless without truly peace-seeking actions.
But why blame God by calling wars holy?
There is NO WAR WITHOUT EVIL.
Gp figure.
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Yes, 100% agreed with you. And Christian U$ President always quote the bible to justify any war and destruction they brought upon other nation.
“Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father……Bible Matthew 10:34-36
Click on this picture https://shorturl.at/jsyEG
This is how hypocrite Christian West/Americunt behave.
When you serve their interest, you (Wagner Group) are freedom fighter.
When you are against their interest, you (or Wagner Group) are terrorist.
Today freedom fighter, Tomorrow terrorist.
https://shorturl.at/jsyEG
“If you’re not with us, you’re against us” the same concept of warmonger Christian
https://www.quora.com/Is-George-Bushs-remark-If-youre-not-with-us-youre-against-us-the-same-concept-of-christianity
Please educate as many as possible.
Pro democracy Dr Chee and his Taiwanese wife and LGBTQ, why quiet on your MA$TER U$A violation of human rights?
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How come you are not honest and quote this?
“Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and one’s foes will be members of one’s own household” (Matthew 10:34-36).
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Israel offered many times two-state solutions.
Following a partial list.
1: In 29 Nov 1947 the UN offered two-states: One for Israel and one for the 22 Arab state. The Arab aggressors refused and invade the defending Israel with 7 armies.
Azzam Pasha (secretary of the ARab League in 1948) said:
I personally wish that the Jews do not drive us to this war, as this will be a war of extermination and momentous massacre which will be spoken of like the Tartar massacre or the Crusader wars*. I believe that the number of volunteers from outside Palestine will be larger than Palestine’s Arab population, for I know that volunteers will be arriving to us from [as far as] India, Afghanistan, and China to win the honor of martyrdom for the sake of Palestine … You might be surprised to learn that hundreds of Englishmen expressed their wish to volunteer in the Arab armies to fight the Jews.
Hassan al-banna (founder and leader of the Muslim Brotherhood in 1948) said:
If the Jewish state becomes a fact, and this is realized by the Arab peoples, they will drive the Jews who live in their midst into the sea.”
2: From 1948 up 1957 Jordan occupied ‘leftover’ of West bank. Egypt occupied the ‘leftover’ Gaza strip. They could form the 22 Arab state but they didn’t. The Arabs living on those lands didn’t require an independent state.
3: After the 1967 war, the defending Israel propose to give up most of the territory it had won during the war, occupied, in exchange for a guarantee of peace. On 19 June 1967, Israel offered “to give up Sinai and the Golan in exchange for peace,” an offer that was rejected in September 1967 by the Arab States by the Khartoum Resolution, which became famous for the “Three No’s”:
a: NO PEACE with Israel,
b: NO NEGOTIATIONS with Israel,
c: NO RECOGNITION of Israel
4: Oslo Accords (1993) – The first major peace agreement signed between Israel and the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO). It established the Palestinian Authority and laid out a framework for negotiations towards a permanent peace agreement.
5: Camp David Summit (2000) – A summit hosted by the United States, where Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak presented a peace proposal to Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat. However, the negotiations ended without an agreement.
6: Taba Summit (2001) – Following the failure of the Camp David Summit, Israeli and Palestinian negotiators held informal talks in Taba, Egypt. Despite making progress, negotiations were halted due to the outbreak of the Second Intifada.
Palestinian response was to open the deadly terror war against Israel civilians
7: Annapolis Conference (2007) – A conference initiated by the United States to revive peace talks between Israel and the Palestinians. The goal was to achieve a peace agreement by the end of 2008. However, the negotiations did not lead to a final settlement.
8: Peace talks (2010-2014) – Several rounds of peace talks were facilitated by the United States between Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas. These negotiations, commonly referred to as the “Israeli-Palestinian peace process,” ultimately failed to reach a comprehensive agreement.
9; 2020- President Trump, in order to brake the 72 years death lock , proposed a new peace plan including a $50 Billions packaged to be used to build a good future for the Arabs. The Palestinians refused and cut the connections with USA and Israel.
My AI calculation tell me that 2 States solution was always in the mind from Israel’s side. However, it failed all the times because the only solution from the counterpart of Israel is to RETURN ALL LANDS including those determined by UN on 29 Nov 1947.
Thus, we are back to square-one as the anti-Israel protests demanded : “from the River to the Sea!”
No matter how many times this is said, two-states solution is not Israel didn’t want.
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